Great info as always. Having trouble finding the footprint for the NEMO Elite adjustable chair. Every source ( MEC/REI..), just have a bag that does not deploy to a footprint. Any hints on source for the footprint?
Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and find them helpful. Speaking of outdoor gear, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse with an impressive capacity, fast recharging, and a waterproof design. It could be a great addition to your camping gear list, especially for those cold winter trips. Keep up the outdoor adventures!
Your pile is upside down, flip it to avoid bumping the metal ring that holds the extender which could knock down your tent. Also black diamond zippers lasted me 2 seasons! Then died. Hope ours improved since I bought mine. I love everything else about this tent
The battery with the heater seems like a problem. You are probably depleting the battery at a high rate to run the heater so you have less capacity to charge your devices. I would try a couple hand warmer pouches wrapped up with the battery.
What tempt rating for the top quilt were you using/recommend? I was thinking 40degree Apex just so it’s light and has summer application. Maybe warmer is better?
Very good list but Justin I am NOT a no-floor tent camper in any season. My winter solo tent is a Tarptent Moment DW (double wall) with 2 doors and 2 vestibules and an optional longitudinal "Crossing Pole" as TT calls it, for snow load. MUMMY BAG-> LL Bean -20 F. with DWR treated down, "CAMP PARKA"-> Eddie Bauer Peak XV -30 F., again, DWR treated down, the only way I like down.
Definitely wanna check out that polar ranger. 👍🏻 At some point could you talk about what you keep in your vehicle/ what vehicle you use to get in and out of these cold weather conditions? Snow tires, jumper batteries etc. I think half the reason I hesitate winter camping is that my car won’t start or I might get stuck at unplowed trailheads.
I tested a "new" sleep system this weekend. I have a 0° REI bag which I augmented with a down quilt on top. I ensconced them, and my Thermarest XTherm in a US Army Gortex bivy. The loft was so high the bivy wouldn't zip past the halfway point. The temperature was as low as 4°F but colder with the wind chill. I slept in the open on clear nights and in a 4 season Litefighter 1 tent (which fell apart...it was new!) when it snowed (a lot). The tent took far too long to set up and break down so I really want a simple design like yours for winter. The Litefighter was a HUGE & EXPENSIVE disappointment. I bought it last year so I doubt I could return it. I wish I had tested it immediately. Thanks for doing such great testing.
Loving the frequent updates lately! Awesome! Imagine if you did take a small folding saw and a hatchet for firewood. You'd be good for loooong trips. Throw in a cheap fleece blanket to use next to the fire and you're mega toasty. :D
How about using some of the HMG packs? That's what Cody Townsend uses when ski mountaineering and camping.
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Love the winter gear videos! I have a question about the Windpro II: What's the lowest temperature you've used it in? Do you take any special precautions with the gas canisters before use, like keeping them inside your jacket to prevent them from getting too cold?
the best winter low to the ground chair that is ultra light is the "grand trunk" mayfly chair. it weighs 1lb 6 ozs and i can use it inside of my hilleberg soulo ....you can literally use it as a hammock if you use your pillow as an ottoman. i guess they don't pay ppl to promote their chair ... cause i have not seen one person review or recommend that chair.
How do you handle the half-full gas canisters? Do u use the half-empty ones in the summer or car camping, do you re-fill them or you just go with half-empty and hope for the best?
Love your videos , your explanations and descriptions on gear and terrains are on.I do have a question ? Isn’t it dangerous to breath in extremely cold air as you sleep ?how do u do it ?Any way keep up those great videos.
I'm sure you've got a video coming out about this, but do you mind giving me your thoughts on the Nemo Tensor Extreme? I am thinking of buying it, but after seeing your video about it not keeping you very warm, it has given me some pause. I'm in the UK, so I will rarely be out in temps below -5c. Great video as always Justin.
He already made that video two months ago. He found it wasn't as warm as he expected it to be. These pads are being designed to beat tests and not real world conditions.
@@Andy-Mesa Yeah I've already seen that video. I was wondering if he'd had any further thoughts on it. In that video he said he was going to ask Nemo why it didn't keep him as warm as expected.
I'll have some more videos with addition thoughts on the Tensor XC coming out over the next several weeks! (still waiting on some additional info from Nemo though)
hey Justin! two things I'd love for you to test out in future videos are the lightweight down puffies from eddie bauer (not sure if sold in canada?) and the flextrailgear pillows. Curious what you think.
Great info, thanks! The MSR Front Range 4 is PU/Sil Nylon and I think the sag is manageable for the weight savings. Have you experienced bag sagging with the MSR Front Range in winter conditions?
Platypus Quickdraw or Sawyer Squeeze. The only two you really need to consider. I personally like the Quickdraw because it filters water faster than the Squeeze but the Squeeze does technically filter to a smaller micron level than the Quickdraw but it's such a small difference between the two its not even a factor really
Thanks for all that great content. What temperatures would you rate that simond parka as suitable for (while stationary over some base layer or lightweight mid)? How does it handle light precipitation? Im considering it as an rest/emergency layer for ski touring but I'm worried its just too warm for european winters.
What Outdoor Reseach pants are you wearing in this video? These look a bit heavier than what I typically wear but they also look like they’d make excellent winter hiking pants.
I think, you never used the peevottle! If you had, you would know, it’s a really bad idea to throw it out after use. You have to keep it inside your Sleepingbag! Otherwise next morning you have a one liter pee ice in the bottle. Funny to carry home! Instead keep it in your bag; it’s warm!
There's also Fjällräven Polar which is quit similar to the Polar Ranger. It has arm zips but the hood is different, it's like a jacket's hood so it follows your head and it has a faux fur lining instead of the snorkel. I've been very happy with it except the hefty zippers do not move very smoothly.
I don’t get these tents. Why not use a proper 4 season tent? Even BD rates this as a 3 season tent. In normal winter conditions probably works quite well but you should equip yourself for the worst weather if truly heading out to wilderness
@@JustinOutdoors Sure, but why do you think that manufacturers like BD list these as 3 season tents? For me, the only tent I trust for winter conditions is a tunnel tent with big vestibule. Like Hilleberg Keron GT. It offers protection for against any condition and is reliable
Dude, get a Superior wilderness design pack, maybe you already have one coming for heavy weights. But mountain hardware, osprey, all that S is babies first pack kinda thing. And if you’re doing it for ‘muh cost’ don’t scrimp on your backpack.
Just like that, I am pretty sure that R value does more than adding up because I have slept on snow in minus 20 with two mat only and the total would have been around 3 if it just added up.
How does the polar ranger work with being a side sleeper? Don't you side sleep 75% of the time? How does it work if you need to sleep on your side? Thank you.
5:20 It's NOT a 10,000 mili-Amp power bank, it's a 10,000 mili-Amp-HOUR power bank. Ampere, just like Watt, is a unit to measure energy output. Ampere-HOURS and Watt-HOURS are units of energy capacity. As Ampere and Ah are completely useless units without the voltage (10 Ah at 5 V is 50 Wh, whereas 10 At at 110 V is, you guessed it, 1.110 KWh). I hope you don't have the rest of the units messed up as bad, as I just discovered your channel and do like the style, content and narrative.
Dude come one....making the same videos over and over again is really starting to get annoying. That's no fun anymore and a very easy way to make TH-cam 😏
Hey awesome video man. Serious question. If going on a prolonged low temperature outdoor trip, do you always need a synthetic top quilt over the down sleeping bag? Is their a difference if it is -5 celcius or -35 celcius? Will conserdation form from body humidity cause a loss of down loft at any temperature?
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Since this is a winter camping video, why weren’t cloths and layer system included in this 😂.
Seem to have missed the thermometer
Great info as always. Having trouble finding the footprint for the NEMO Elite adjustable chair. Every source ( MEC/REI..), just have a bag that does not deploy to a footprint. Any hints on source for the footprint?
Great one, man! I just love your videos, as you are really good at explaining things and are a positive force in the outdoor world.
Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and find them helpful. Speaking of outdoor gear, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse with an impressive capacity, fast recharging, and a waterproof design. It could be a great addition to your camping gear list, especially for those cold winter trips. Keep up the outdoor adventures!
Your pile is upside down, flip it to avoid bumping the metal ring that holds the extender which could knock down your tent. Also black diamond zippers lasted me 2 seasons! Then died. Hope ours improved since I bought mine. I love everything else about this tent
I love your winter gear list videos! Always giving me ideas for good gear!
What pants/ boots/ camp pants/ Lower garments? Socks? I’d love a full cold weather clothing quite but specifically lower garments
The battery with the heater seems like a problem. You are probably depleting the battery at a high rate to run the heater so you have less capacity to charge your devices. I would try a couple hand warmer pouches wrapped up with the battery.
What tempt rating for the top quilt were you using/recommend? I was thinking 40degree Apex just so it’s light and has summer application. Maybe warmer is better?
Very good list but Justin I am NOT a no-floor tent camper in any season. My winter solo tent is a Tarptent Moment DW (double wall) with 2 doors and 2 vestibules and an optional longitudinal "Crossing Pole" as TT calls it, for snow load. MUMMY BAG-> LL Bean -20 F. with DWR treated down, "CAMP PARKA"-> Eddie Bauer Peak XV -30 F., again, DWR treated down, the only way I like down.
Definitely wanna check out that polar ranger. 👍🏻 At some point could you talk about what you keep in your vehicle/ what vehicle you use to get in and out of these cold weather conditions? Snow tires, jumper batteries etc. I think half the reason I hesitate winter camping is that my car won’t start or I might get stuck at unplowed trailheads.
I tested a "new" sleep system this weekend. I have a 0° REI bag which I augmented with a down quilt on top. I ensconced them, and my Thermarest XTherm in a US Army Gortex bivy. The loft was so high the bivy wouldn't zip past the halfway point. The temperature was as low as 4°F but colder with the wind chill. I slept in the open on clear nights and in a 4 season Litefighter 1 tent (which fell apart...it was new!) when it snowed (a lot). The tent took far too long to set up and break down so I really want a simple design like yours for winter. The Litefighter was a HUGE & EXPENSIVE disappointment. I bought it last year so I doubt I could return it. I wish I had tested it immediately. Thanks for doing such great testing.
Loving the frequent updates lately! Awesome! Imagine if you did take a small folding saw and a hatchet for firewood. You'd be good for loooong trips. Throw in a cheap fleece blanket to use next to the fire and you're mega toasty. :D
Love your stuff. The only outdoor content maker I've actually bought recommend products form and you have some interesting perspective on gear
I love that shelter.
Buy your booties bigger, get a cobbler to attach a thin Vibram outsole and then cut and add some CCF insoles. Toasty! Love your gear choices!
Thanks for the video!
Could you touch on why you chose that tent for winter camping? Looks like an odd choice for negative temperatures
🏖, where i am. I need to go back 6 months i guess and watch those videos.
Love the pee bottle idea. I keep mine inside my sleeping bag until morning as to not waste the free heat.
I just want to know what hat you’re wearing. I see it’s made by OR, but what is it called?
How about using some of the HMG packs? That's what Cody Townsend uses when ski mountaineering and camping.
Love the winter gear videos! I have a question about the Windpro II: What's the lowest temperature you've used it in? Do you take any special precautions with the gas canisters before use, like keeping them inside your jacket to prevent them from getting too cold?
love your vids man can you test out the new marmot -40 cwm goose bag that has the new center zip?
Just started backpacking this year but I don't have winter gear to survive the cold out there hopefully next year, video helps alot👌
What do you do for work at ur desk job man? Pretty awesome they let you off all those days for your thru-hike!
I like everything about that setup.
Have you done a video on the new flextail zero pump!
the best winter low to the ground chair that is ultra light is the "grand trunk" mayfly chair. it weighs 1lb 6 ozs and i can use it inside of my hilleberg soulo ....you can literally use it as a hammock if you use your pillow as an ottoman. i guess they don't pay ppl to promote their chair ... cause i have not seen one person review or recommend that chair.
You made a great choices!!
How do you handle the half-full gas canisters? Do u use the half-empty ones in the summer or car camping, do you re-fill them or you just go with half-empty and hope for the best?
New to the channel, this is a great video! Gave me some ideas to add to my kit. Keep up the good work bro!
Love your videos , your explanations and descriptions on gear and terrains are on.I do have a question ? Isn’t it dangerous to breath in extremely cold air as you sleep ?how do u do it ?Any way keep up those great videos.
What is the total weight of your bag?
Thanks Justin!
I'm sure you've got a video coming out about this, but do you mind giving me your thoughts on the Nemo Tensor Extreme? I am thinking of buying it, but after seeing your video about it not keeping you very warm, it has given me some pause. I'm in the UK, so I will rarely be out in temps below -5c.
Great video as always Justin.
He already made that video two months ago. He found it wasn't as warm as he expected it to be. These pads are being designed to beat tests and not real world conditions.
@@Andy-Mesa Yeah I've already seen that video. I was wondering if he'd had any further thoughts on it. In that video he said he was going to ask Nemo why it didn't keep him as warm as expected.
I'll have some more videos with addition thoughts on the Tensor XC coming out over the next several weeks! (still waiting on some additional info from Nemo though)
Celsius or Fahrenheit?
Hey man could you do a Nemo Tensor Extreme Conditions vs Thermarest Neoair XTherm NXT video!
I don't see that Simond down parka at the Decathlon website. And curiously there's no link to it in the description either?
It's not available in the US (I'm guessing that is where you are located)
hey Justin! two things I'd love for you to test out in future videos are the lightweight down puffies from eddie bauer (not sure if sold in canada?) and the flextrailgear pillows. Curious what you think.
Great info, thanks! The MSR Front Range 4 is PU/Sil Nylon and I think the sag is manageable for the weight savings. Have you experienced bag sagging with the MSR Front Range in winter conditions?
The BD tent has a snow version.... Why do you have the non snow version?
How is NITECORE Summit? DO you recommend it?
yes
Have you ever experienced bigfoot and are you worried about an encounter?
LESS GOO! can you make a video about some good light water filters? or you can just reply some good ones you use
Platypus Quickdraw or Sawyer Squeeze. The only two you really need to consider. I personally like the Quickdraw because it filters water faster than the Squeeze but the Squeeze does technically filter to a smaller micron level than the Quickdraw but it's such a small difference between the two its not even a factor really
thanks!@@ultima8250
Thanks for all that great content. What temperatures would you rate that simond parka as suitable for (while stationary over some base layer or lightweight mid)? How does it handle light precipitation? Im considering it as an rest/emergency layer for ski touring but I'm worried its just too warm for european winters.
Can’t find the Nemo elite chair available anywhere yet. I have the Nemo moonlite but I’ll be ordering the elite asap
He has the prototype. It should come spring '24
Thanks :)
Probably for over 200 euro
What Outdoor Reseach pants are you wearing in this video? These look a bit heavier than what I typically wear but they also look like they’d make excellent winter hiking pants.
Trailbreaker 2. They are awesome pants.
Is there a link for North America/USA where you can buy the Simond Parka?
The jacket isn't available in the US but is in Canada. You could try a reshipper from Canada to the US.
Do you have a link for the camp booties? I didn’t see it
Oh ya! Sorry about that. geni.us/MECExpeditionBooties
No jacket link?
It’s in the description under My Favorite Gear.
What gloves do you like for 20f and colder?
Best glove for working is Black diamond guide glove period. I climbed denali with them
I think, you never used the peevottle! If you had, you would know, it’s a really bad idea to throw it out after use. You have to keep it inside your Sleepingbag! Otherwise next morning you have a one liter pee ice in the bottle. Funny to carry home! Instead keep it in your bag; it’s warm!
Saw a couple versions of the Polar Ranger there...is one better than the other?
There's also Fjällräven Polar which is quit similar to the Polar Ranger. It has arm zips but the hood is different, it's like a jacket's hood so it follows your head and it has a faux fur lining instead of the snorkel. I've been very happy with it except the hefty zippers do not move very smoothly.
One is the newer 2022 version and the other is the older version. They are very very similar.
nemo moonlight elite does not seem to exist in real world....is this pre release?
yes
A lot of the gear links are dead fyi
My rule don't count on fire, after reading jack London story on fire.
I don’t get these tents. Why not use a proper 4 season tent? Even BD rates this as a 3 season tent. In normal winter conditions probably works quite well but you should equip yourself for the worst weather if truly heading out to wilderness
Pyramid-style tents like this are proven winter-ready tents. They shed snow and wind well.
@@JustinOutdoors Sure, but why do you think that manufacturers like BD list these as 3 season tents?
For me, the only tent I trust for winter conditions is a tunnel tent with big vestibule. Like Hilleberg Keron GT. It offers protection for against any condition and is reliable
@@sebulbanhow much did you pay for that?
@@zakafxNot too much 😊
@@sebulban how much?
Dude, get a Superior wilderness design pack, maybe you already have one coming for heavy weights. But mountain hardware, osprey, all that S is babies first pack kinda thing. And if you’re doing it for ‘muh cost’ don’t scrimp on your backpack.
Just like that, I am pretty sure that R value does more than adding up because I have slept on snow in minus 20 with two mat only and the total would have been around 3 if it just added up.
You sir are gadget camping
Justin I love you and your videos man but the Celsius/ metric methods you use drives me insane.
And if he used Fahrenheit it would drive those of us in the rest of the world crazy.
He's not American, it makes sense.
@ ya I get it. Maybe have both everytime for us yanks
How does the polar ranger work with being a side sleeper? Don't you side sleep 75% of the time? How does it work if you need to sleep on your side? Thank you.
dude its the third in a row
I was about to say... isn't this the 3rd video with the same gear at the same location...?
Fourth.
Milking his gear last for all its worth.
@@mcfaddenhall2896 💀
I'll make sure to throw in more backyard or studio videos for you guys
5:20 It's NOT a 10,000 mili-Amp power bank, it's a 10,000 mili-Amp-HOUR power bank. Ampere, just like Watt, is a unit to measure energy output. Ampere-HOURS and Watt-HOURS are units of energy capacity. As Ampere and Ah are completely useless units without the voltage (10 Ah at 5 V is 50 Wh, whereas 10 At at 110 V is, you guessed it, 1.110 KWh).
I hope you don't have the rest of the units messed up as bad, as I just discovered your channel and do like the style, content and narrative.
Uh... if deers, rabbits, elk, coyotes, wolves, etc are pooping outside.....i would say it's safe for me to poop outside. Im not baggingit.
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Dude come one....making the same videos over and over again is really starting to get annoying.
That's no fun anymore and a very easy way to make TH-cam 😏
Hey awesome video man. Serious question. If going on a prolonged low temperature outdoor trip, do you always need a synthetic top quilt over the down sleeping bag? Is their a difference if it is -5 celcius or -35 celcius? Will conserdation form from body humidity cause a loss of down loft at any temperature?