Alfred is the heart and soul of the Batman mythos, and his absence is felt any time he is not there. His compassion, love and firm example are what kept took a group of broken, angry, scared kids and turned them into a family. Without him, there might still be A Batman, but it would not be THE Batman.
How do you forget what he did for Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd? He knew they came from the worse versions of a broken home. Tempered the anger (as much as he could) for Jay and taught Cassie how to read and made her realize she was just as important as a Robin.
If it wasn’t for Alfred constantly making Bruce go out in his fruity, clumsy daytime persona, all of Gotham would have figured out Batman’s identity within a year. Also Alfred serves the reader as one of the only characters that knows Bruce far better than himself (Catwoman and Nightwing probably both fall into this category as well, but even so, still not of Alfred’s level). A perfect example is the page you showed where Tim asks if Bruce has ever had a woman know he is Batman before, and Alfred explains to Tim (the audience) how Bruce treats romance and secrets. Bruce would never talk about those things in those ways, so it’s helpful to hear about it from his protective father figure who has some perspective on his behavioral trends. Plus he doesn’t represent these huge concepts in Alfred’s mind, like he does to his sons. Alfred sees him as he is, and helps the audience to see him that way as well-all the humanity, fallibility, and self-doubt beneath the Batman.
As somebody who loves it when characters grow and move forward, I'd ideally like to see him remain gone. I hated it when Spider-Man editors decided to bring Aunt May back (clone saga) and I hated it when they had him sell his marriage to the devil to save her (after bringing her back.) My all time favorite Ninja Turtles story (that really didn't get told) was season five of the 2012 series. Splinter was dead and Leo and the family were forced into a new reality in which Leo was the head of Clan Yoshi. Losing Alfred, like May and Splinter, represents the character(s) fully growing into adulthood. Without that last surrogate parent figure, the hero must now bare the weight of the world on their shoulders and for the first time realize that they aren't (and never were) capable of handling it all on their own. We can still get new stories with Alfred via flashbacks, "untold tales", alternate realities, etc. Ideally, I'd even like to see it progress to the point that the hero (Bruce) is no longer the hero (Batman). Break down Bruce on a physical level and make the point that his body is beyond repair after what he's put it through. (Similar to The Dark Knight Rises) Give us something similar to the Bruce of "Batman Beyond", but with the large team he's assembled in the comics. I know DC would NEVER do what I'd like to see. But then again, if they did, it'd all be undone in about three weeks when DC reboots the entire universe again. After that, Bruce is a teenager. Alfred is in his late 20s, and all the Robins and other sidekicks are only "easter eggs".
DC in the last few years has done some really stupid things Like Killing off Alfred, and making Jon Kent age, so he won't have any more stories with Damian Wayne! I think the latest group of Producers and Writers have tried to be original to the detriment of the Legacy of the comic storylines!
Only one way and it's the easiest way to bring out front back. Take them to a Lazarus pit and then he will have more power and be able to last a lot longer. Almost live forever. It's an easy concept and it writes itself
🤷🏾♂️ I don’t understand HOW the writers can bring Alfred back. If the lazurus pit is not being used, then the Flash is the only other option, but we all know, that’s as just as bad as the Lazurus pit.
Same. Alfred is like Aunt May. At some point, they were going to die and we need to accept it and not have the hero make any deal with the devil to bring them back.
Alfred was a stone cold killer soldier warrior that suffered from PTSD. When he saved Thomas Wayne’s life he brought Alfred into the family as a butler. Bruce was always Alfred’s kid in his mind. Alfred whooped plenty of “Super Heroes”. He even humbled Superman in injustice. He’s more like a spotter for a sniper for Batman.
Batman without Alfred is like Spiderman without Aunt May, Frodo without Samwise, or Superman without Martha and Johnathan Kent. Far as I'm concern anyway marvel and DC current stories are just written by awful people and nothing they write should be considered canon to these characters once propped up by professionals with hearts.
As much as i like Alfred there's nothing missing with him gone, i get tht u like him but good story telling is supposed to make u miss a character, leave him dead
You know what? Comic book characters need to start having permanent deaths. Stories should change and grow. Problem is, too many of y’all hate change. It would be ridiculous to bring him back at this point, shy of a reboot which y’all also hate.
Soundly Disagree, Let stories move on May I remind you that the majority of top selling heroes nowadays Fought in World War 2? Also, Stuff like this is what brought us to One More Day, The New 52, The Ultimate Universe....
I hope he does come back, Alfred is pretty much the heart of the Bat Family.
Alfred is the heart and soul of the Batman mythos, and his absence is felt any time he is not there.
His compassion, love and firm example are what kept took a group of broken, angry, scared kids and turned them into a family. Without him, there might still be A Batman, but it would not be THE Batman.
How do you forget what he did for Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd? He knew they came from the worse versions of a broken home. Tempered the anger (as much as he could) for Jay and taught Cassie how to read and made her realize she was just as important as a Robin.
I'm pretty sure with some prep time Batman can find a way to get him back
We need him.
Things have objectively gone to shit since Alfred died. He was the real MVP of the Batfamily.
The hero the world doesn’t deserve
Alfred was way more important than many people really know. Such a great and missed character. I'm glad that you acknowledged that
We need that old guy back LOL 😂😂
You were truly first congrats
Alfred is the best and Batman does need him
If it wasn’t for Alfred constantly making Bruce go out in his fruity, clumsy daytime persona, all of Gotham would have figured out Batman’s identity within a year. Also Alfred serves the reader as one of the only characters that knows Bruce far better than himself (Catwoman and Nightwing probably both fall into this category as well, but even so, still not of Alfred’s level). A perfect example is the page you showed where Tim asks if Bruce has ever had a woman know he is Batman before, and Alfred explains to Tim (the audience) how Bruce treats romance and secrets. Bruce would never talk about those things in those ways, so it’s helpful to hear about it from his protective father figure who has some perspective on his behavioral trends. Plus he doesn’t represent these huge concepts in Alfred’s mind, like he does to his sons. Alfred sees him as he is, and helps the audience to see him that way as well-all the humanity, fallibility, and self-doubt beneath the Batman.
All you need is #10 Because he’s Alfred.
But the other stuff is good too
If I ever had a butler I would want a sarcastic one like Alfred
Bring back Alfred!
Alfred needs to make a comeback because he was a true definition of not all heroes wear capes
Damn... now I want an Alfred Pennyworth.
I love alfred
My favorite Alfred moment is when he beat the snot out of Superman with his bare hands
Another list I didn’t know I actually needed.
Does he (Bruce Wayne) even know where his checkbook is? Not going to lie, that one had me laughing.🤣🤣🤣
See thats what made al a "HERO"
Honestly Alfred is in my top 3 characters in comics like he's just a the perfect rolemodel
Best dad ever
Alfred is the Heart of the Team.
Great bit, sir... possibly my favorite in your channels history
I miss alfred.
Alfred the goat, I doubt there is a Batman fan that doesn't like him
I'll never forget the time Alfred knocked the shit outta Superman.
This was probably Superman’s doing however superman would have defeated Alfred with some sun dipped shit.
@@BatDude-lc7wb it was Injustice. alfred took a super pill and kicked Superman so hard his shoe exploded and made Superman bleed on the floor
And then Superman recovers
@@BatDude-lc7wb Only because Alfred held back. He could have easily killed Superman if he chose to.
Alfred THE BOSS 👌
1) Alfred has worn a cape and 2) Alfred as ex-British specops/spy (depending on the telling) probably is also a weapons expert.
He was part of the RAF
Alfred is the 🐐 GOAT!
Spot on. All of them.
Alfred should come back I miss him and so does bruce
Why haven't they brought him back yet?
bring himback .. the hell bring hin back .. its not Batman without Alfred
Wow I like the part when he beat the shit out of Superman wasn’t so super then lol 😂
As somebody who loves it when characters grow and move forward, I'd ideally like to see him remain gone. I hated it when Spider-Man editors decided to bring Aunt May back (clone saga) and I hated it when they had him sell his marriage to the devil to save her (after bringing her back.)
My all time favorite Ninja Turtles story (that really didn't get told) was season five of the 2012 series. Splinter was dead and Leo and the family were forced into a new reality in which Leo was the head of Clan Yoshi.
Losing Alfred, like May and Splinter, represents the character(s) fully growing into adulthood. Without that last surrogate parent figure, the hero must now bare the weight of the world on their shoulders and for the first time realize that they aren't (and never were) capable of handling it all on their own.
We can still get new stories with Alfred via flashbacks, "untold tales", alternate realities, etc.
Ideally, I'd even like to see it progress to the point that the hero (Bruce) is no longer the hero (Batman). Break down Bruce on a physical level and make the point that his body is beyond repair after what he's put it through. (Similar to The Dark Knight Rises) Give us something similar to the Bruce of "Batman Beyond", but with the large team he's assembled in the comics.
I know DC would NEVER do what I'd like to see. But then again, if they did, it'd all be undone in about three weeks when DC reboots the entire universe again. After that, Bruce is a teenager. Alfred is in his late 20s, and all the Robins and other sidekicks are only "easter eggs".
DC in the last few years has done some really stupid things Like Killing off Alfred, and making Jon Kent age, so he won't have any more stories with Damian Wayne! I think the latest group of Producers and Writers have tried to be original to the detriment of the Legacy of the comic storylines!
Only one way and it's the easiest way to bring out front back. Take them to a Lazarus pit and then he will have more power and be able to last a lot longer. Almost live forever. It's an easy concept and it writes itself
Who else is going to beat up Superman if he goes rogue?
Pennyworth was a secret agent with MI-5 before he was a butler.. he was a damn good marksman n total badass.. never disrespect him like that...❤
Ok I didn't watch it still but I'm pretty. Sure a reason from them it's that Bruce can't do a tie tie
Why don't bruce find one of those pits that ra's al ghul uses? He may go nuts for a bit but he'll get over it.
Cast Mark Strong as Alfred and make him an essential part of the bat family
Cast Captain Titus as Alfred Pennyworth?
If Alfred is not with him who is going to serve the filet mignon to Bruce, do you think he can serve it to himself? Come one thats ridiculous
Wait? He's gone?
🤷🏾♂️ I don’t understand HOW the writers can bring Alfred back. If the lazurus pit is not being used, then the Flash is the only other option, but we all know, that’s as just as bad as the Lazurus pit.
Please do Goku vs Batman Villains
When Alfred beat the fuke of super man and when he was near death in the batman how laughs
I get it, but no. Let death finally mean something in comics. Every bat family character has gone through so much growth since his death
Exactly. Alfred is dead, not gone. He lives on in EVERY one of the Batfamily.
disagree ... without Alfred batman has no heart at all
Same. Alfred is like Aunt May. At some point, they were going to die and we need to accept it and not have the hero make any deal with the devil to bring them back.
No. Alfred is the best character in Batman and the only reason a lot of people are interested in Batman. Let death stick somewhere else.
Alfred was a stone cold killer soldier warrior that suffered from PTSD. When he saved Thomas Wayne’s life he brought Alfred into the family as a butler. Bruce was always Alfred’s kid in his mind. Alfred whooped plenty of “Super Heroes”. He even humbled Superman in injustice. He’s more like a spotter for a sniper for Batman.
That origin isn't the main origin. The main origin is "his dad was a butler for the Waynes and asked Alfred to succeed him on his deathbed"
It's sad, but it's for the best that Bruce learns to take what Alfred taught him and pass it along to his kids.
Nobody can run crying to dad forever.
Does bruce ever pay alfred?
👌😁😍🏆
Batman without Alfred is like Spiderman without Aunt May, Frodo without Samwise, or Superman without Martha and Johnathan Kent. Far as I'm concern anyway marvel and DC current stories are just written by awful people and nothing they write should be considered canon to these characters once propped up by professionals with hearts.
Paid the bills? Ok.
Who is taking care of the things that Bruce doesn't think about, yet Batman thinks of everything. Yeah, right.
But lol he's back already
All tasks could be replaced with a girlfriend or wife
"Superheroes with a SO? Readers hate that!" ~DC Comics
As much as i like Alfred there's nothing missing with him gone, i get tht u like him but good story telling is supposed to make u miss a character, leave him dead
You know what? Comic book characters need to start having permanent deaths. Stories should change and grow. Problem is, too many of y’all hate change. It would be ridiculous to bring him back at this point, shy of a reboot which y’all also hate.
No. Let someone else have a permanent death, not the best character in Batman/DC.
Soundly Disagree, Let stories move on
May I remind you that the majority of top selling heroes nowadays Fought in World War 2?
Also, Stuff like this is what brought us to One More Day, The New 52, The Ultimate Universe....
Without Alfred, there are no BATMAN
1st here
You were second and I was thrid
Wow he was really overworked. Makes sense that he was a millionaire. He deserves to finally rest in peace