True. But it’s like watching a “Best actor” contest. The legal people and the witnesses are all superb. Though I did think it a little contrived perhaps that the post Mortem officer was the arresting officer. But the acting is so good I’ll let it go.
Only ever got to see this programme when off sick from school or during school holidays. Real shame that it was only aired during the day. I never appreciated the incredibly high standard of drama that this was at the time. So good to be able to see these all now. Completely hooked!!
@@SigmundJaehnA concept that, on the surface, should not be interesting - the entire story taking place entirely in the courtroom - no violence or car chases, only occasional bad language, fairly slow-paced …
I never cease to marvel at the incredible high standard of this series, Plus the huge amount of talent this series had to work with, in front and behind the camera
@@stephaniestj5237 I remember this from when I was a kid. Wasn't it broadcast at lunchtime or something ? This is so much better than pretty much anything on the TV these days and probably made at a tiny proportion of the cost. I've watched a few others and the standard is remarkably high. The only oddity is the conditional discharge at the end. I mean he caused the bloke's death partly through maliciousness and on the face of it tried to arrange for his mate to cover it up. It's hardly accidental. It seems awfully generous. (Though I did think it was a *bit* convenient that the copper had that dual role ...)
I wish people didn't post the verdict in the comments. I just happened to scroll down and saw it before watching to the end. (Only because I wanted to see if anyone else recognized "Gaius" as prosecutor...) Thank you for the upload, Jez.
William Simons also gave a stellar performance as defense council. I had only seen him before on Heartbeat. I got a better sense of his measure as an actor on seeing this.
What, what, what? Conditional discharge? Are they mad? What happened to "First, do no harm."? 10 years and struck off at the very least! Fulton Mackay was bloody brilliant! He did that right shoulder hump & head turn that he used to such good effect in Porridge! Loved it!
One thing struck me was how often one was surprised by the verdict when watching the series years ago. I was reminded of it strongly after watching this episode. I was convinced that a Not Guilty verdict would be given. It just goes to show how differently we all see things. That is another great achievement of this show.
That was the beauty of the concept - A live "studio audience" jury of non-actors deciding the matte, meant that the verdict was very likely to be a surprise and based upon the social mood of the time. Very much an early form of "Reality TV" . . . . . And so strange that so many of the intellectual giants in the comments thread seem to decry populist modern television in such a sweeping manner while praising this show. Your good self excepted.
Christ! I'd rather have Dr Crippen than that Tory brute of Dr force feed me - the arrogant swine. Even the Judge said he was. That of course does not mean the Jury say so in its verdict. Again amazing actors. Daytime tv is normally for cats and dogs who are alone but this was PREMIUM entertainment in the 70s and 80s making it more the remarkable. Fulton MacKay was brilliant especially crying in the witness box. Again, thank you Jez T
Loosening of the teeth from scurvy or other ancillary effects of malnutrition, which could have come out due even to friction from a soft tube. YT has a problem with linking to corroborative websites, so that will have to stand.
Saeed Jaffrey also played Dr. Anil Mukerjee a left wing dentist in a brilliant film called The Wilby Conspiracy in 1975 which starred Sidney Poitier and Michael Caine
From the golden age of British T.V, sadly most of it replaced by dross like Celebrity Love Island, X Factor, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here and other such dumbing down piffle.
Everyone remembers Richard Wilson for Victor Meldrew (and himself in Father Ted!), but I remember him better for the Medical Director in Only When I Laugh. "For heaven's sake, Figgis/Gupta!" was his catchphrase then, but that was superseded by "I don't beLIEVE it!" in 1FitG. 😅
Well, it looks like the Whole show will be shown, the last one I looked at only part one was shown of the 6 parts and the one I looked at before that the last or 7th part was missing.
Although one season was broadcast on Saturday evenings around 8 pm in the 70s, during the summer, but it returned in the autumn as an afternoon programme, where it was usually broadcast!
Proper acting not the rubbish that passes for acting today also I remember it being on at 1.30 in the afternoon every Monday Wednesday and Thursday or maybe Friday,
If you look at the closing credits, it was broadcast in MCMLXXV (or 1975 in arabic script) . That is around six years before the deaths of Bobby Sands MP and the other hunger strikers.
The irony of getting to watch infamous nasty screw McKie standing there shouting about terrible prison conditions and political prisoners at the start there was quite funny.
am incredibly careful.sbout the medical.proffesssionals I use for the reasons apparent with this arrogant self serving man in a career he is i illsuited for . One surmised against what the legal.proponants would feelmwad justified that none but the prison would employ him. Maybe they too should be more carefully overseen .
nakedmambo Bullshit! Who do you think you're kidding? No one was imprisoned because of opposition to the poll tax. Your father must have expressed his opposition in a manner that broke the law - that's a very different matter.
I'm not kidding anyone, or maybe you're just a naive fool? Plenty people received prison sentences, many were suspended. 'Breaking the law' happened when people refused to pay what was an unjust tax imposed by a crooked, right-wing government composed of zealots, voted for by idiots. When people rioted (and I was there when they did) it wasn't 'lawbreaking' it was the the only way to break an unjust law. There's a subtle difference that might elude you.
I disagree with the verdict. I disagree with forced feeding: my body, my choice. But the procedures are quite simple & there should not have been any stomach perforations: the feeding tube was too soft.
Excellent performance by all concerned but outstanding by Fulton Mackay.
A great episode. Richard Wilson steals it every time. Hard to believe this is Victor Meldrew to be. A great performance and a riveting case.
And Only When I Laugh a few years after this..
Brilliant young actors who went on to become legends in years to come on British TV!
Fulton Mackey ....brilliant acting
True. But it’s like watching a “Best actor” contest. The legal people and the witnesses are all superb.
Though I did think it a little contrived perhaps that the post Mortem officer was the arresting officer. But the acting is so good I’ll let it go.
Only ever got to see this programme when off sick from school or during school holidays. Real shame that it was only aired during the day. I never appreciated the incredibly high standard of drama that this was at the time. So good to be able to see these all now. Completely hooked!!
As a child, I absolutely hated this show. I have much more appreciation for it now.
@@SigmundJaehnA concept that, on the surface, should not be interesting - the entire story taking place entirely in the courtroom - no violence or car chases, only occasional bad language, fairly slow-paced …
Heartbeat, Porridge -,One foot in the grave. In the crown court.Absolutely fantastic Episode
Absolutely wonderful. Amazing actors. Fulton McKay was so natural. Sad story in some ways.
I never cease to marvel at the incredible high standard of this series, Plus the huge amount of talent this series had to work with, in front and behind the camera
Many thanks for these JezT must say the quality is of the highest. Thanks 👍
Amazingly well written, directed, produced and acted.
Absolutely gripping, to think this was the calibre of ITVs output, now replaced with Tipping Point and Celebrity Love Island -God help us!
I agree. ITV is abysmal these days.
@@stephaniestj5237 I remember this from when I was a kid. Wasn't it broadcast at lunchtime or something ? This is so much better than pretty much anything on the TV these days and probably made at a tiny proportion of the cost. I've watched a few others and the standard is remarkably high.
The only oddity is the conditional discharge at the end. I mean he caused the bloke's death partly through maliciousness and on the face of it tried to arrange for his mate to cover it up. It's hardly accidental. It seems awfully generous.
(Though I did think it was a *bit* convenient that the copper had that dual role ...)
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As others have said, one of the best. Brilliantly tense.
Fulton Mackay is brilliant in this.
Whoever gave him that haircut should be charged 🤣
I wish people didn't post the verdict in the comments. I just happened to scroll down and saw it before watching to the end. (Only because I wanted to see if anyone else recognized "Gaius" as prosecutor...) Thank you for the upload, Jez.
Excellent - well played ... however, I was half expecting for Richard Wilson to exclaim..."I don't belieeeeve it!"
The signature tune is also great as it gives a, well not sure but it works well, hauntingly maybe.
I love the immediate intellectual gauntlet it sets down. Incidentally that music is the fourth movement of Janáček's Sinfonietta op. 60.
.fantastic prosecutor.
William Simons also gave a stellar performance as defense council. I had only seen him before on Heartbeat. I got a better sense of his measure as an actor on seeing this.
He also played a good part in Minder, in the 1983 episode ' The Wilsden Suite', as Pongo Harris
These are so good, I'm completely hooked!!
Thanks Jez!
Glad you're enjoying them, DDandrums! :)
Fulton Mackay! Some great actors appeared in this series.
me too
What, what, what? Conditional discharge? Are they mad? What happened to "First, do no harm."?
10 years and struck off at the very least!
Fulton Mackay was bloody brilliant! He did that right shoulder hump & head turn that he used to such good effect in Porridge! Loved it!
How about a further charge against the doctor and the Home Office pathologist of attempting to pervert the course of justice?
The actor playing him was not so fortunate, John Price died aged just 44 😥
"What happened to "First, do no harm."?
A frequent argument in the Abortion debate. On both sides.
Hasn't resolved anything.
Very impressive performances by all concerned. I was particularly impressed by Richard Wilson.
One thing struck me was how often one was surprised by the verdict when watching the series years ago. I was reminded of it strongly after watching this episode. I was convinced that a Not Guilty verdict would be given. It just goes to show how differently we all see things. That is another great achievement of this show.
That was the beauty of the concept - A live "studio audience" jury of non-actors deciding the matte, meant that the verdict was very likely to be a surprise and based upon the social mood of the time.
Very much an early form of "Reality TV" . . . . . And so strange that so many of the intellectual giants in the comments thread seem to decry populist modern television in such a sweeping manner while praising this show. Your good self excepted.
Mr Parsons needs a series of his own. Brilliant.
The great Fulton Mckay!!☺️👌
It's no wonder my mum was always late at picking me up from school.
both went on to do comedies later on. great actors
Thank you for posting these. This episode is great.
"So be it, m'lord" The most grudging delivery of acquiescence ever heard in this court, I suspect.
Christ! I'd rather have Dr Crippen than that Tory brute of Dr force feed me - the arrogant swine. Even the Judge said he was. That of course does not mean the Jury say so in its verdict. Again amazing actors. Daytime tv is normally for cats and dogs who are alone but this was PREMIUM entertainment in the 70s and 80s making it more the remarkable. Fulton MacKay was brilliant especially crying in the witness box. Again, thank you Jez T
This case has some similarities to the real case of Michael Gaughan, an IRA hunger striker who died in 1974.
Saeed Jaffrey was to play Billy Fish in The Man Who Would Be King not long after this episode was broadcast.
I think he was in Rumpole too
Two brilliant Scottish character actors Richard Wilson and Fulton Mackay.
I thought the Prison Doctor was great too and, obviously a Scot.
The deceased had 4 front teeth knocked out! Explain that one please. Shocking case, with shocking sentence.
Loosening of the teeth from scurvy or other ancillary effects of malnutrition, which could have come out due even to friction from a soft tube. YT has a problem with linking to corroborative websites, so that will have to stand.
I like all these actors i remember from other favourite tv shows i like.
Mr. Mackay of Porridge! What a surprise! Victor Meldrew too! PC Alf Ventress of Heartbeat!
Jeremy Parsons QC = legend.
17:57 I was expecting him to say "Tha'll never play cricket for Yorkshire, eh?" I'm sure Harry Enfeild bunked off school and watched this.
Saeed Jaffrey also played Dr. Anil Mukerjee a left wing dentist in a brilliant film called The Wilby Conspiracy in 1975 which starred Sidney Poitier and Michael Caine
From the golden age of British T.V, sadly most of it replaced by dross like Celebrity Love Island, X Factor, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here and other such dumbing down piffle.
Everyone remembers Richard Wilson for Victor Meldrew (and himself in Father Ted!), but I remember him better for the Medical Director in Only When I Laugh. "For heaven's sake, Figgis/Gupta!" was his catchphrase then, but that was superseded by "I don't beLIEVE it!" in 1FitG. 😅
Aren't those opening scenes the picketing of the Saltley coaking plant in 1972 where the miners succeeded in forcing the plant to close ?
Tough case.
Well, it looks like the Whole show will be shown, the last one I looked at only part one was shown of the 6 parts and the one I looked at before that the last or 7th part was missing.
my parents would stay up late everytime and watch this
er.........it was shown at lunchtime :)
I have an idea it was shown in the afternoon. The only way I could watch it was if I was off sick or on leave from my office job
Although one season was broadcast on Saturday evenings around 8 pm in the 70s, during the summer, but it returned in the autumn as an afternoon programme, where it was usually broadcast!
@@BRUTUALTRUTH innmy country it was showN late around 10.30 pm
I think its was shown at 3pm
That's Mr Mackay from Porridge I like his accent.
Thanks that was Corker.
Proper acting not the rubbish that passes for acting today also I remember it being on at 1.30 in the afternoon every Monday Wednesday and Thursday or maybe Friday,
Saeed Jaffrey as Dr Ramlal.
This is based on the IRA hungerstrikers in the 70s & 80s.
If you look at the closing credits, it was broadcast in MCMLXXV (or 1975 in arabic script) . That is around six years before the deaths of Bobby Sands MP and the other hunger strikers.
@@abcd5835 I understand that, thank you for pointing that out, however the IRA had done hunger strikes before this event with Sands.
The second pathologist did a good job. For free.
.conditional discharge.that's a joke
Probably a member of the same lodge as the judge.
SPOILER ALERT !!!!!!
do we assume the judge did not agree with the jury?
The irony of getting to watch infamous nasty screw McKie standing there shouting about terrible prison conditions and political prisoners at the start there was quite funny.
Why was Fulton McKay dressed as the Fulham Flasher?
And you expect us to believe?😮
Liberty to bring about your own death for an ideal ? Could anything be more contradictory.
Mr MacKay from porridge! Lol.
Manslaughter? Conditional discharge? What?
am incredibly careful.sbout the medical.proffesssionals I use for the reasons apparent with this arrogant self serving man in a career he is i illsuited for . One surmised against what the legal.proponants would feelmwad justified that none but the prison would employ him. Maybe they too should be more carefully overseen .
No such thing as a political prisoner in this country? Tell that to my father imprisoned for opposing the poll tax. Or the miners.
nakedmambo Bullshit! Who do you think you're kidding? No one was imprisoned because of opposition to the poll tax. Your father must have expressed his opposition in a manner that broke the law - that's a very different matter.
I'm not kidding anyone, or maybe you're just a naive fool? Plenty people received prison sentences, many were suspended. 'Breaking the law' happened when people refused to pay what was an unjust tax imposed by a crooked, right-wing government composed of zealots, voted for by idiots.
When people rioted (and I was there when they did) it wasn't 'lawbreaking' it was the the only way to break an unjust law. There's a subtle difference that might elude you.
nakedmambo .I've never heard of anyone going to jail for opposing the poll tax
How is that my fault?
@@mikewilliams8713 Idiot! A pensioner was imprisoned when he did not pay the poll tax. Learn yer facts Tory boy!
So what is meant to be the negligence? Withholding force feeding or force feeding badly?
Negligent in not getting outside/expert help before making a decision.
Richard Wilson, Fulton Mackay etc. I suppose afternoon to can't afford decent actors nowadays.
Psyop. See Matrix Breakout.
I disagree with the verdict. I disagree with forced feeding: my body, my choice. But the procedures are quite simple & there should not have been any stomach perforations: the feeding tube was too soft.
I'd love to be force fed broken glass.
A somewhat perverse remark, eh?