ishowspeed: you streaming? thechessnerd: yes ishowspeed: okay *turns on stockfish thechessnerd: no 1000 plays like this ishowspeed: *turns off stockfish
He defended one of the most aggressive openings in chess perfectly. I would never take though free pawns and unleash those bishops. He cheated the entire game
Because they are like 200-600 elo originally, so they can’t understand the advanced player thought process and how different the engine moves are. The 1500+ elo cheaters usually are harder to get caught because they only turn on the engine on some moves, and then play the rest by themself so we can’t really prove them cheating or just some “on fire luck” moment
@@Dog-b2c this was a long time ago in like my first couple months of playing maybe in the 5-600 range. My elo only ever got down close to 100 when i was learning to play bullet lol.
For centuries, we humans played each other in a face-to-face setting, physically present in the same damn room, at the same damn table, using the same damn board lol.... get out of your basements and start playing each other in person instead, it's amazing how much better games like THIS are, when computers and phones aren't involved. Basically, I don't condone the cheating, but I don't feel bad for the cheated either, talk about lazy, spoiled, modernization biting you in the butt lol.... maybe Chess should be played in person, who would have thought?! lol
I don't get how these cheating things work, does the computer automatically play all the moves or does he just manually do it by looking at the engine ?
I had a friend that went from 1300 to 1700 in only a month. Met him when he was only 1300 and little do I know that's one of the last times he played without cheating. He actually legit fought you Zach and few games after you he got banned.
I agree and up until that he played a precise game and was gaining ground quick. Then all of a sudden he was taking 3 steps back and one piece forward.
This is exactly why I call out a cheater when I see one. very often they will "pretend" to not cheat or just stop altogether giving you a chance to win.
@@Romans8-9 Idk if it's that unusual in and of itself, quite an ordinary square for that bishop to be developed to and it protects the pawn, but some of the other moves like the rook move were odd.
Yeah. I blunder everything the first two games I play. It takes me forever to switch my brain on. But I am a casual player. But I wouldn't blunder that Bishop, no chance.
people should really stop cheating, it can be frustrating but its more rewarding when you do it on your own. besides youre taking the fun out of it for others
It's cringe that those guys (cheaters), do not realize fact that for experienced player it is easy to verify moves that are good, bad and sussy for different levels of play.
Thank you for this video! I hadn't even realized yet, that you can basically play the Danish Gambit from the Scotch Gambit😄 I almost always play the Scotch gambit, sometimes Sctoch game, though I love playing the Danish when I have the chance, but even below 1000 elo where I am currently it's not fully accepted very often.
Ya but he had just played king d8 for no reason, so it was weird af because he just moved his king back to the square it was just on. King d8 was horrible, king c8 was only okay because it corrected that mistake.
There are many cheats, using a variety of different systems. You start to see it in the 1200 rating range. The biggest clue is the rate of play. Some moves are obvious, yet the opponent still takes the same time to move the piece. Take a conservative approach in the middlegame and play rapidly. You can usually get them.
To make it simple, there are chess engines that are WAY stronger than people like magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura etc... what these cheaters do is open another window/tab, input the moves that the cheater and his opponent have done, wait a few seconds to see what the engine reccomends and play that "engine" move.
It’s the time each player has taken for their moves, in white is 0.7 seconds and in black 4.3 seconds. This shows my opponent was taking a consistent amount of time for each move in the opening as the black pieces (usually 4-8 seconds consistently is a red flag and enough to be looking at the engine)
at 8:03, you are laughing about f4, however, if the opponent didn’t play f4 and played a random move (let’s say a6), you would have this nice move Ng5, attacking the bishop and black can not hold on to this position as they are forced to make some sort of exchange here, hence white is much better.
The traxler isn't 100% accurate though since it's not the main line (which of course is d5). And white can just avoid taking the bishop, leaving black with a worse position. After Bc5 white can play Bxf7+ capturing f7 for free with check and preventing you from ever castling. The traxler ONLY works if white plays Nxf7 and still ONLY if after Bxf2+ white plays Kxf2 instead of the accurate move Kf1.
Putting the bishop in front of the queen to card the rook from the pawn and queen attacking promotion is 1900-2000+ rating tactic there is no way that a 1000 would even know how to defend against that 3-4 moves in advance
I know it doesn’t matter at this point in the game but it would have been really cool if you saw Qe6 instead of taking the Queen right away. Sorry I have been doing too much puzzle rush lately lol
@Diego XIV to each their own though but I would argue Queen e6 was way better because it is not about further checks. He ended up sacking the Queen to promote the pawn but in this situation the Queen would not have needed to be sacked and the knight would be won on the next move
I mean only d5 was somewhat of a move I wouldn't expect from 1000, but still some 1000s are good at openings and it's kinda common theme even in other e4 e5 openings, so ...
The moment he move the pawn, i suddenly confuse and also know that he is cheating. It is clear that the reason why nerd move the pawn is to take the bishop or just move away so that the tower could attack the enemy's bishop. But by moving the pawn, he clearly playing like he don't know the reason of the move after he playing very well that even like most person never saw it.
Yeah, I had a 324 play like this today. I'm like 380 on c.c and 770 on lichess. I told him "theres no way you are 324." He had to be a cheater. I won 14 games and lost 5 today. He was one of my losses. I want to win or lose... Fair and square. I'm going to go see what his accuracy was.
@@randomorange6807 maybe a "fair" point but I'm telling you, it was bam, bam, bam. I have only been playing a few months and had maybe 5 people get banned for cheating during that time. But I'm only 380 and play many people with that rating. This guy was more than 324. Fo sure.
Qxh4. Threatens the knight with check. Moves the queen away from the open file with the rook, leaving the bishop, but again, threatening Qxc4+ which leads to forced mate in 4. E.g.: Qh8 Qxb4 Rxe6 (blunders mate in 4) Qxc3+ Kb1 (only move) Rd1+ Ka2 (only move) Rxa1# Instead of Rxe6 you must defend your knight on c4, e.g. with Nfd2. And now black can retreat the bishop to f7 or queen back to e7 to protect. Instead of Qh8 you can play Qxg8+ temporarily sacrificing the queen for the rook, bishop takes your queen, you play Rxe7 taking the black queen. Effectively trading the queen and rook, which white is happy to do with the advanced pawn on g7 (even protected by the bishop on b2) and king-side pawns ready to march.
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ishowspeed: you streaming?
thechessnerd: yes
ishowspeed: okay *turns on stockfish
thechessnerd: no 1000 plays like this
ishowspeed: *turns off stockfish
After he turns off the engine, he still doesn't play like a 1000
He defended one of the most aggressive openings in chess perfectly. I would never take though free pawns and unleash those bishops. He cheated the entire game
He plays more like a 0 (worse than random)@@怪人-b1x
@@怪人-b1x because he isnt. He got 1000 by cheating
That isn't speed
dude's acting skill is on another level, should have won the oscar tbh
Wdym
I dont understand
LOL THE TWO COMMENTS ABOVE ME ARE THE SAME THING THE CHEATER SAID
@@plorcz HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH GENIUS
What's music 3:00?
every single cheater thinks they will definitely be the one to not be found out and not be banned, it's hilarious how that works
Because they are like 200-600 elo originally, so they can’t understand the advanced player thought process and how different the engine moves are. The 1500+ elo cheaters usually are harder to get caught because they only turn on the engine on some moves, and then play the rest by themself so we can’t really prove them cheating or just some “on fire luck” moment
@@Hanqy i cheat in chess and only play 1 match per day
@@Shark9637 why? What’s the point?
@@Mr.StealYourGirl81 its fun
I have an account dedicated to cheating I've been playing on it for 6 years :/
I’m so happy for your growth, i really love your penchant for objectivity and humility. Been here since way before you got the plaque
Thank you so much!! So redeeming seeing this type of feedback when it's exactly what a go for, thanks Nguyen!
Imagine taking the time out of your day to cheat for virtual, non-official elo
Lmao this is staged
He should win the oscar
@@edvinkarlsson9368 defo not staged during a stream with in an open qualifier tourney for the olympic e-sports.
It´s not official according to who?, accordint to the oldie FIDE who can´t turn on a pc?, I´m not agree with this.
@@edvinkarlsson9368that's a really dumb comment actually.
Bro really freaked out ahaha, he probably had some sweat drops on his face when he read your messages lol
End of the game : 🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸
Zach has come such a long way. from 50k to 117k in such a short amount of time. Glad I was here from the start :))
looking familiar, WAH
@@Pink_Hoshino wat
I saw his TH-cam shorts. Thought it was interesting. I’ve been subscribed for months now idk how much he had when I first subscribed
Was here since 5k lol
@@realmheart3751 Amen. I think I’ve been here since sub-10k?
Only time i get accused of cheating is when my opponent has never seen en passant. lol
Are you playing 100 elo chess 😭😭
@@Dog-b2c this was a long time ago in like my first couple months of playing maybe in the 5-600 range. My elo only ever got down close to 100 when i was learning to play bullet lol.
Legit bruh, i got reported twice because of that moved
@@mr.empathy3984 how did u even know u got reported?
Hackers are ruining chess
As i said previously its sad that these qualifier tournies were full of 1600 or 1200 cheaters, that made it much less fun to play :((
Even if they became less and less as qualifiers progressed (they get banned the day after)
Were they rated 1200,1600 or is this just their cheating account?
@@tallerfrodo1262 How they cheating and still at 1600
@@user-gl8tf7br8kbruh this cheater was a 1000 and he joined December 2022
For centuries, we humans played each other in a face-to-face setting, physically present in the same damn room, at the same damn table, using the same damn board lol.... get out of your basements and start playing each other in person instead, it's amazing how much better games like THIS are, when computers and phones aren't involved. Basically, I don't condone the cheating, but I don't feel bad for the cheated either, talk about lazy, spoiled, modernization biting you in the butt lol.... maybe Chess should be played in person, who would have thought?! lol
I thought that the cheater could have been a ok chess player without cheats, but no bishop dissappeared fast af
please never include discord noises in your videos, you fooled me twice 😂😂😂
rip lol
relatable
I was like "why tf is it so loud"
Lol
Someone tell the audio engineer the music made me throw the volume to 50% which makes his talking during the game completely inaudible
It annoys me that they genuinely believed they weren't gonna get caught.
Who's "they"?
Hey pretty lady!
@@TheSoulBlossomcheaters
Kiyosumi fan in the wild?
I don't get how these cheating things work, does the computer automatically play all the moves or does he just manually do it by looking at the engine ?
What even is the point of cheating at CHESS? This is just like admiting one is stupid.
Imagine if he wasn't cheating and he thought you were calling him
lil bro forgot how the pawn captures
@@in3rg605 He forgor not his fault my guy
I had a friend that went from 1300 to 1700 in only a month. Met him when he was only 1300 and little do I know that's one of the last times he played without cheating. He actually legit fought you Zach and few games after you he got banned.
I went from 1400 to 1900 in 1 month of 100 percent fair play in 300+ games rapid😎😎😎😎
@@vishalfgm I went from 1300 to 1700 in 1 month and to 2000 in 1.5 months (from 1300). Now im 2055 highest is 2151
2:00 why suspicious? its obvious you are going to try pin his queen with rook, so he just protects
I agree and up until that he played a precise game and was gaining ground quick. Then all of a sudden he was taking 3 steps back and one piece forward.
This is exactly why I call out a cheater when I see one. very often they will "pretend" to not cheat or just stop altogether giving you a chance to win.
beginning 3000 rating , ending 400 rating.
why would he be suspicious of the bishop move at 2:07?
I don't know seems like normal move just preparing for rook attack along that file and developing bishop
@@2019inuyasha Only move that makes any sense to me is bringing the bishop out. Gotta castle on the queens side ASAP.
@@TheSm1thersbringing bishop out is fine but putting it front of the Queen is unusual
@@TheSm1thersbringing bishop out is fine but putting it front of the Queen is unusual
@@Romans8-9 Idk if it's that unusual in and of itself, quite an ordinary square for that bishop to be developed to and it protects the pawn, but some of the other moves like the rook move were odd.
I think he's 400 elo, 1k elo would not make a blunder like that
You're overestimating 1000s lol. I've seen them make even more ridiculous moves
Yeah. I blunder everything the first two games I play. It takes me forever to switch my brain on. But I am a casual player. But I wouldn't blunder that Bishop, no chance.
Im a 1k rated player and sometimes i makes a Worst blunder than that, i always forgot my mf queen is hanging
As a 1600 elo, I still make blunders that I shouldn't.
He did it intentionally.
Bro spent 2000 years to make the obvious move
Bro the music and sound effects🔥Its like protagonist of the movie vs antagonist final fight
true xd
Yea i was gonna praise the same thing
people should really stop cheating, it can be frustrating but its more rewarding when you do it on your own. besides youre taking the fun out of it for others
Maybe that's how they get their kicks. Imagining they are inflicting psychological pain on others.
That's like saying people should stop robbing banks. Yeah obviously they should stop lmfao.
@@averagelizard2489People shouldn't stop robbing banks. Banks are just huge scams, I don't have a problem with people scamming scammers
@@Radrook353 You nailed it... that's it exactly.
@@Radrook353 What pshychological pain? You immediatelly know they're cheating. You just feel sorry them for not knowing how to play.
the bishop move makes sense though, like "Oh no, he didn't let me pin him, he must be cheating"
Dude went from playing like Magnus Carlsen to playing like Carlos Magnusen once he was suspected of cheating
Carlos Magnusson is a good player also
the BGM song is tense but intriguing, nice one Zach to pointed out the cheater! 👍
bro showed up midway 1:40
It's cringe that those guys (cheaters), do not realize fact that for experienced player it is easy to verify moves that are good, bad and sussy for different levels of play.
Even intermediate players can tell apart a cheater and a legit player
Yes
"I have no doubts about this player"
"Let's do the procedure"
-A certain former world champion
Imagine being so bad at chess you have to cheat and then being bad at that as well
Glad you caught him out dude
I am 1000 and today just got acussed of cheating. when I saw the title of this video, I thought it was me
I’m so tired of cheaters I keep getting paired with them in the 2100-2300 range it’s infuriating
For those who are wondering the song is: fire and thunders
I'm just really happy to see a Goring double pawn sacrifice. What a star you are!
1:09 THE DISCORD SOUND 😭😂
Incredibly shameless that opponent was doing. Its just like gotham said in that onr WIRED video, cheaters simply dont know how to play
There is no way anyone with ishowspeed in his name could be above 500 elo lol
Good job on calling him out buddy! Can't stand these low lives!
From the thumbnail I expected you to be the teacher
Thank you for this video! I hadn't even realized yet, that you can basically play the Danish Gambit from the Scotch Gambit😄 I almost always play the Scotch gambit, sometimes Sctoch game, though I love playing the Danish when I have the chance, but even below 1000 elo where I am currently it's not fully accepted very often.
imagin pressing Ctrl+W while taking screenshot
Ctrl+Shift+T and you're all good
bro looks like the cart titan in that thumbnail on god
Plot twist: it was actually a GM smurfing and started trolling you
Nothing quite like *discreetly* considering every single move of your opening for 7 seconds.
They know so little, they don't know how ridiculously obvious their cheating looks !
WE BACK IN THE 0 ELO WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
king c8 is excellent move because or else you have bishop to f6, skewering the king and the queen. its still losing at any rate
Ya but he had just played king d8 for no reason, so it was weird af because he just moved his king back to the square it was just on. King d8 was horrible, king c8 was only okay because it corrected that mistake.
this guy's unofficial elo was 1000 but he was actually 100 this whole time
There are many cheats, using a variety of different systems. You start to see it in the 1200 rating range. The biggest clue is the rate of play. Some moves are obvious, yet the opponent still takes the same time to move the piece. Take a conservative approach in the middlegame and play rapidly. You can usually get them.
Bro thought he was slick with it 😂
Would’ve been more interesting to discuss the engine moves instead of the 1000 moves
judging by the second half of the game, this guy can't play even at 1000 rating
"no 1000 plays like that"
Ou shit mb
Proceeds to blunder two moves in a row for abs no reason
Funny thing is the cheater did not even understand the moves stockfish did and throw everything away in two moves
you dont understand, he studied his openings but not his end games
man just spot playing atp. Like, if you can’t see the bishops under attack, and don’t want to learn, why even bother playing?
I created an account and only payed computer moves until it got banned at 2300, it was a fun experiment, it took longer than I expected to get banned
@@zwartebananen962 if it helps you sleep at night.
It's not an "experiment", it's called "being a pathetic loser"
@@charleskun6384 got it out? Feel better now?
If you’re that serious about a game you’re the one in need of a check up lol
why
@@Romans8-9 It doesn’t affect anyone, everyone gets their ratings back, and fun fact, it’s just a game. Not a tournament…
I didn't expect my favourite opening to be layed
I don't know how you cheat in chess. Can anyone explain?
To make it simple, there are chess engines that are WAY stronger than people like magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura etc... what these cheaters do is open another window/tab, input the moves that the cheater and his opponent have done, wait a few seconds to see what the engine reccomends and play that "engine" move.
@@PencilNova thank you.
What's the tune name at 3:00, someone please tell me
Fire and Thunder - Cjbeards
I don't think he turned off stockfish, I think he literally used to choose the worse moves
at 0:08 what is that bar that is circled in red? The one with 0.7 and 4.3? what does it mean
It’s the time each player has taken for their moves, in white is 0.7 seconds and in black 4.3 seconds. This shows my opponent was taking a consistent amount of time for each move in the opening as the black pieces (usually 4-8 seconds consistently is a red flag and enough to be looking at the engine)
@@thechessnerd thanks
Whats the second song? Its so good. Its from osrs right?
what is wrong of full danish gambit ? or you mean your opponent?
8:16 kc8 is good cause it prevents queen pin from bishop and prevents checks
at 8:03, you are laughing about f4, however, if the opponent didn’t play f4 and played a random move (let’s say a6), you would have this nice move Ng5, attacking the bishop and black can not hold on to this position as they are forced to make some sort of exchange here, hence white is much better.
I cheated like crazy when I was a kid playing on Microsoft gaming zone and such. Never realized how ridiculously obvious it is
That's me until I make 1 blunder, then it goes downhill
1 blunder shouldn’t be that bad unless you blunder the queen
@@graphics12 King too
I got accused of cheating for beating someone with 100% accurate traxler attack.
The traxler isn't 100% accurate though since it's not the main line (which of course is d5). And white can just avoid taking the bishop, leaving black with a worse position. After Bc5 white can play Bxf7+ capturing f7 for free with check and preventing you from ever castling. The traxler ONLY works if white plays Nxf7 and still ONLY if after Bxf2+ white plays Kxf2 instead of the accurate move Kf1.
Putting the bishop in front of the queen to card the rook from the pawn and queen attacking promotion is 1900-2000+ rating tactic there is no way that a 1000 would even know how to defend against that 3-4 moves in advance
at 8:15 you were also threatening to pin his queen to the king, i think thats why he played Kc8
Rh4+ was a move that any common 1500 elo player could catch.
Accidentally misread chess cheater with chess streamer, so I was confused till halfway through lol
6:45 Qe6 was mate in two correct me if im wrong as then the rook takes the black queen on next move
Knight can recapture
The chess nerd when commentating 😮 the chess nerd when playing chess😐
He is not even 900 rating
I know it doesn’t matter at this point in the game but it would have been really cool if you saw Qe6 instead of taking the Queen right away. Sorry I have been doing too much puzzle rush lately lol
@Diego XIV to each their own though but I would argue Queen e6 was way better because it is not about further checks. He ended up sacking the Queen to promote the pawn but in this situation the Queen would not have needed to be sacked and the knight would be won on the next move
In the second half of that game the cheater played worse than me and I’m a 200
How people cheat in chess ? I dont undrestand, new chess player.
Gets called out - loses 2000 elo! That was funny!
I mean only d5 was somewhat of a move I wouldn't expect from 1000, but still some 1000s are good at openings and it's kinda common theme even in other e4 e5 openings, so ...
When he said no 1000 would find that. I found that and I'm only 700
i read the title as "cheese eater gets called out"
How did you join these tournaments
6:41 Qe6+ would be brutal here. Kb8 is forced, then Rxd8+ and Nxd8 is forced, then Qxf5 or even more brutal, g8 queen/rook promotion
Seriously, what's the point of cheating at Chess online? There's no money involved, right, in boosting their rating?
This guy ain't a one thousand this guy's a one 😭
I think cheaters ought to be doxxed.
Does anybody know the Spotify channel my man is jamming to, its pretty dope
The moment he move the pawn, i suddenly confuse and also know that he is cheating. It is clear that the reason why nerd move the pawn is to take the bishop or just move away so that the tower could attack the enemy's bishop. But by moving the pawn, he clearly playing like he don't know the reason of the move after he playing very well that even like most person never saw it.
No one is safe from Cheaters, 😂😂😂😂😂
That gambit is so hard to play against as black. The moves he played were 3000 elo until he got called out
Yeah, I had a 324 play like this today. I'm like 380 on c.c and 770 on lichess. I told him "theres no way you are 324." He had to be a cheater. I won 14 games and lost 5 today. He was one of my losses. I want to win or lose... Fair and square. I'm going to go see what his accuracy was.
What was it?
How are you posting this before checking lol
@@randomorange6807 maybe a "fair" point but I'm telling you, it was bam, bam, bam. I have only been playing a few months and had maybe 5 people get banned for cheating during that time. But I'm only 380 and play many people with that rating. This guy was more than 324. Fo sure.
@@fikks7106 will check tomorrow.😉
Well? Did you get to check?
5:12 why cant u juy play queen to h8 bruh
Qxh4. Threatens the knight with check. Moves the queen away from the open file with the rook, leaving the bishop, but again, threatening Qxc4+ which leads to forced mate in 4. E.g.:
Qh8 Qxb4
Rxe6 (blunders mate in 4) Qxc3+
Kb1 (only move) Rd1+
Ka2 (only move) Rxa1#
Instead of Rxe6 you must defend your knight on c4, e.g. with Nfd2. And now black can retreat the bishop to f7 or queen back to e7 to protect.
Instead of Qh8 you can play Qxg8+ temporarily sacrificing the queen for the rook, bishop takes your queen, you play Rxe7 taking the black queen. Effectively trading the queen and rook, which white is happy to do with the advanced pawn on g7 (even protected by the bishop on b2) and king-side pawns ready to march.
If I was in ur position after he played rook to f5 at 6:49, I would play qe7+ , King has to move then I would take his queen and be point up
I mean qe6
I'm 700 and I saw f6 immediately to protect the rook
how was he cheating ???!!!????