2022 Marin Alpine Trail E1: INCREDIBLY good fun!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- All new Marin Alpine Trail E1 Electric Mountain Bike, priced at £4295, is a brilliantly fun ebike from Marin that is built to shred trails and downhill. Progressive geometry with a slack head angle (63 degree), steep seat tube (78 degree), short chainstay (435mm), reach up to 505mm in XL. It feels GREAT!
Aluminium frame, 160 Fork, 150mm coil rear wheel travel, mullet ebike (29er wheel on front and 27.5" rear).
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They make a couple of versions. I'm riding the more affordable model but they also do one with the 2021 Shimano EP8 motor and 630Wh battery, along with better fork and component spec.
Bike Prices:
Marin Alpine Trail E1: £4295 / €4899 / $4499 (US)
Marin Alpine Trail E2: £5695 / €6199 / $5999 (US)
I'd really think that if you want the most from the bike the E2 version will be the one for full sends with the Fox 38 fork and better climbing from the more low down grunt from the EP8. However, the E1 version that I have been riding is still proper good fun and very reasonably priced at £4295. Geometry and frame is the same between the two bikes, just different component / motor spec.
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Awesome release from Marin! E1 will be availibile in from this month (December 2020) with the E2 in Spring 2021, but you can order right away from your local Marin dealer. What do you guys think?
Looks very nice but I just wonder why Shimano E7000 when there is E800 available. Im currently looking ebike and I´m wondering should I go with bosch gen 4, wait for Shimano ep8 or go with older E8000. There is alot of good bikes but my biggest question mark is the motor. Thanks for reviews and keep doing these great videos.
E7000 in a modern 2021 ebike is a dumb idea imo, but at least they doesn't cost 7500$ like the Santa Cruz bulit does with the same motor...
The bike looks great after all!!
@@juhavuorinen7711 I’m not sure I’d go for the older e7000, I have the Bosch gen 4 and it’s excellent but does rattle slightly on bumpy ground.
I think that Shimano should have kept the E8000 as a cheaper option. Sadly they discontinued it when the EP8 launched.
Looks like I've got another bike to consider. I was thinking about the Commencal Meta E Power
I love that you rode the bike before reading the numbers - eliminate any potential bias!
Prefer it this way to be honest!
Great point!!
Stoked you enjoyed it Rob!
Any UK demo days planned?
@@crusherII We hope to, but will have to see how things play out with the virus and event schedules.
We have to see and hear how the E2 rides. That bike has the better motor and suspension it should be fantastic 🙏🙏
Where can we get them in the UK Marin?! Looks sweet and ticks all the boxes
@@johnmc7791 The E1s will be available at Marin dealers in the UK in (roughly) March. We suggest you work with your local shop to get your name on a list. Cheers!
Never heard of your channel before till now, Rob. I must say, the quality, effort, and how you structured your review is brilliant! Love the slo-mo shots with the sound too... very dreamy!
Thank you! And glad you notice the little bits like the sound :-)
Rob your show is just getting better every episode, love the light in the Forrest effective ,keep them coming 🙏
The E7000 is a great motor very underated with more than enough grunt with 60nm, I've done 3k with no issues and it's been bulletproof. I spend 90% in eco mode and it have a very natural feeling plus I get over 40+km with heaps of riding
Tell me more pls.
What battery capacity do you have? I have no experience in e bikes and was worrying that smaller battery may be big limitation on this bike?
Just goes to show that it's more than just the numbers that make a bike great.. 👌🏻
Rob because of the price of the E2 being still cheap but with great suspension and that fab geometry EP8 motor. You have got to do a ride review it looks great. 🤘
I was a marin dealer great bikes under rated by far ,wolf ridge never took off it is a bad ass bike
You're over here telling us the latest and greatest while EMBN are telling us about Bosch motors for the 15th time. Keep it coming!
I own a 2019 Marin Alpine Trail 8 and love everything about its ride and geometry. It is truly the one bike for all types of trails. I’ve been looking at getting an Emtb for when I go on week long trips to get more hours of ridding in... No more looking 😜
I think motor torque is overhyped and a little misunderstood by people who havent spent a lot of time on an ebike. I was the same until recenlty. I've had my Commencal Meta Power SX Race with the EP8 for just over 2 weeks and I've done just over 400km on it so far. I went riding on the weekend with some friends who were on regular pedal bikes so I was just riding in eco with the assistance set to 3/10 and the max torque set to 42Nm. The terrain was a mixture of singletrack, jump trails, punchy climbs and long medium climbs. I was still flying away from them with it just in eco. 42Nm is still a lot of assistance. Then later in the ride I flicked it up to trail (7/10 & 85Nm) and blasted up a 7 and a half minute climb (took 15 minutes when I rode it at my friends pace). When you're pushing the motor to the limit and want the absolute top speed/acceleration then the torque and power output of the motor matters but when you're just riding around, 70Nm is still heaps of assistance and will still get you up some pretty gnarly climbs that would normally be unridable or very difficult on a pedal bike. You just need to be smart with gear choice exactly the same as you would on a pedal bike. The moral of the story is dont focus too much on the motor. Obviously the motor matters, but the bike itself also matters a lot. If you're comparing bikes with an EP8, Bosch, Brose, Yamaha etc, pick the bike that you want based on it merits, suspension, drivetrain etc not just solely on which motor you think is a tiny bit more powerful. I had a Turbo Levo demo bike for a few days and set some pretty fast times on Strava which I have already smashed on my supposedly less powerful EP8 bike which probably comes down to the bike itself, the geometry, suspension, brakes rather than just a few more watts of peak output.
Now that was a great bike review. Wish all bike reviews were conducted and put together like this one was. Made me want to grab my bike and head for the trails. Great job!
Best reviewer on TH-cam in my opinion, Rob explains, demonstrates and catches your interest! Enough sucking up 😂
Woow, the quality of your videos is superb! Great job Rob! Fantastic bike!
Your review helped me decide! Ordered one today. Thanks
Looks great! Buying an eBike today is far more complicated than it was 12 months ago when I bought my Levo. There are so many options now and it’s so hard to make a short list.
Love the look of that, my first bike was a Palisades Trail ('95) that I upgraded to death, so great to see them in the game. Also I just stuck a RockShox ZEB and Ohlins TTX coil on my Levo and it's made a massive difference. The rear is so plush with a coil, def suits an ebike setup in my view. Another great review.
Best bike reviewer on YT. You get down the hole on the things that matter. Researching this bike in the latest model.
Great video. Awesome videography by john really makes the trails at surrey hills come to life really great video to watch.
Jon got some absolute banging shots! Its not the most epic place to film because its so covered etc, but he always does an incredible job.
Cheers Chris, really appreciate the feedback! It's a team effort all round and the Sony A7iiis has just made the whole job so much easier..The real skill is in the edit!!
@@TheBikePilot i can only imagine. Still credit as always where its deserved.
Great review, loving the videography Rob! That bike looks banging. The only bike in many many years that has a great geometry and price plus the spec of the E2 looks cracking, don't think I would need to change anything.
Glad to see Marin "in the game", I personally still ride an early 2000's East Peak and enjoy it. Now, where's my nearest stockist with a demo....hmmm.
In the game for sure! Brilliant to see them bring this to market. Get a try on one asap!
I doubt it has anything in common with your east peak other that the head tube logo, not even made in the same Continent
@@tonyhowell32 Not even that, the logo is different.
@@crusherII Gone the same way as cannonade then? Didn't realise it at the time, but know it feels like 90's, 00's Klein/Marin/C'dale eat feel like boutique independent outlets. and now they are probably all made in the same factory in China
Excelent review......good to know that they are using that very capable and good motor.
The e7000 gives just the right amount of power for that type of ebike.....A FUN BIKE.....💪
Great review, I’m almost sold ! I’ve always thought e- bikes should be built around a 9 or a 10 spd drivetrain with the larger pins for more strength, better heat management, overall wear and tear. save the 12 spd for pedal
Hmm interesting, ride Marina for a season in 2014 when they were super short, but build quality was fantastic. Love how they've addressed the geo and go e the other way. That 2 could be a right weapon!
I think you'd like this one mate
Loving the look of this Rob, can you do a review of the E2 as well?
Prob not a full review as its so similar, but if I can get a demo I'm sure I can make a vid of some kind.
@@RobRidesEMTB would be great to see 👍👍
I really like the geometry specs, not interested in a 500w but a model with 630w & EP8 and your tested suspension would be a nice in between model and $ saving option.
Yeah yeah but is it as rad as my Marin Rocky Ridge was. Man I loved that bike... 👍😆
It just looks right. Would this be too much for a casual riding around the neighborhood?
Nah... Buy it... If you like it!! I do... and may buy one too for the neighbourhood lol... You only live once .... 🙂👍
I like before I watch.
Nice editing, always moving forward 👍🏻
Thanks! Jon got some epic shots for this one!
Great review. It seems like a fantastic first emtb for anyone. I have a bike with the e7000 motor and have done about 2000 miles on it . Agree with everything you said about it. It works just fine. Plenty of power for me and so silent (which is important to me) . The profile/ plastic casing of the motor looks outdated and is not stealth looking enough by current standards/ trends. Overall it’s a great motor.
Hey Rob
Its probably the 435mm chainstay that makes it so lively
I have a Marin I'm selling it for $200 to a friend custom seat post great groupset I just got a cab eagle custom made with a beautiful motorcycle seat I cannot wait to hit top speed of 50 miles an hour on a mountain trail always good to see your videos 👍
Great vid Rob! Just waiting for a revision of the tax levied on e-bikes over here, one day they should become affordable (without the present 60% 'luxury tax' on top of MSRP AND shipping)...
Great review. Well done... Well balanced and informative. Thanks
So the next model up is the same geometry and frame with EP8 and 38 forks ? Should try that one.
A dealer told me 2 weeks ago that the EP8 was recalled because of problems with them. The E7000 is toooo weak for serious riders imho.
Your filming is quality !
Ordered an E2, can't wait for it to arrive 👍👍
Did it arrive yet?
@@NickyNicest Nope, still waiting. Supposed to be arriving early September.
It's a complete joke to be honest
Did it arrive yet?
@@stellar_j hi ya, nope..... Delayed till the end of November 😔
Oh how that would make me smile...
Thanks for the review Rob, excellent as usual. I am 6f2 and between sizes, I am also new to ebikes and not as good as you skills wise. What do you recommend, L or XL?
It looks amazing 🤘the youngsters are going to love it.
If you personally had to choose between - this marine or the transition relay ?
You had me until Shimano motor. Thanks, Rob. Marin bicycles had a rich history
Love the videos!!! Are you going to review the e2 version ?
Totally agree with the 10 speed cassette. Stronger, cheaper & you can put on a beefy chain as well. Going to a eagle 22 speed just doesn’t make sense to ME.
ALSO AGREE WITH WHY THE 7000 Shimano motor. POWER BABY that’s what we want 😁😁😁
Great Review Rob!
How would you compare this bike geometry to the Focus SAM2? this one seems a bit more balanced.
Would be really interested to hear Robs opinion on this, Sam2 was a contender for my next bike. But i really like the look of that Marin E2!
Awesome review as always! I’m too very keen to hear your thoughts on this Marin vs the focus Sam2 in mullet setup?
That looks great Rob. Can’t help feeling we need to hear your review of the E2. That E1 is really quite heavy - did that help? Still, a lot to lift over fences and gates compared to lighter offerings....
The spec on that E2 is a big upgrade for the extra shillings. I’m wondering what it’s weight is....
Awesome Ebike review Rob.. as always :) better this Marin or Haibike Allmtn 7 ??
Hi rob thanks for the Great video on this marin 📹
I'm going looking at one of these tomorrow. I'm just a bit unsure about the battery range on this bike the 504Wh. What's your opinion on the range you got out of it while you had the bike? Thanks Wayne.
Great review. I am considering buying one and at 6'2 I would usually just go XL without a second thought but your comments have me wondering. Should I consider the Large?
The E2 looks like a completely sorted set up, but it's practically impossible to get your hands on one. In fact all bikes are out of stock or have delivery dates well into next year. Would love to get an ebike but the world doesn't have enough of them, any advice on what the industry is going to do about the backlog?
Was this a paid promotion or an independent review?
The numbers make this bike a direct competitor to the trek rail, which is the bike I've ordered. Looks like I'll have to wait till March now before I get my hands on it.
Hi Rob, another great video. For those of us that ride some trails, but mostly keen to hit the roughy DH trails, would you recommend the Focus Sam2 in mullet, or this Marin? Thank you.
Looks banging
My checkbox is a sub 20Kg eMTB with good kit that won't break the bank... Thanks!
Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick two....!! - Keith Bontrager
Would love you to ride the Polygon Mt Bromo N8, after all, Marin is made by Polygon. If you do get a chance, would love your feedback.
Thanks Rob, great review as usual!, great shoots on this video! Can i ask which camera your cameraman used? (besides drone shoots and gopro chest shoots). Thanks man!
Thanks! Camera was Sony A7SIII filmed in 4K 120p
Love it as usual Rob when is the bigger brother vid dropping😁🤙✌️
Hope to get an E2 to try soon! 85Nm motor, bigger battery, better fork = win!!
Great bike your testing
Hey Rob, just curious at your height 6’3” would you have preferred the XL instead of the large? Thanks
Rob do a cushcore review please front tire too😁😁😁👍👍👍👍👍
Great review, thanks! How would you compare this to the Focus Sam2?
Hi Rob, while I am waiting to get a new ebike (preferably the Turbo Levo Comp) I came across your review of the Marin and it sounds really great especially the E2 with the ep8 motor. How do you compare it to the Levo?
Great review Rob! I also use a Fox Dropframe helmet. Could you please tell me where you found yours in that color.
Thanks
Hey John - I got this one from my Local Bike dealer, Berkshire Cycles who are a Fox stockist. I believe its called 'Pine' colour if that helps.
Motor lets it down
I wish they would’ve put the ep8 in this one too. Its worth the extra couple hundred $$$. There’s an e1 available near me but Bc of the motor I’d rather wait for an e2 to be in stock
Hey Rob, great review. I'm seriously thinking about this bike but the e2 version. Sizing has got me a little miffed. I have an xl Devinci AC which is similar to Marin's xl size. If you were to buy this, would you still go for the large or XL? I'm 187cm / 6'1
i think you mean binary instead of digitial? :D (when talking about the motor being very on/off)
cool bike and video tho!
Yep! I’ll remember that one for next time 👍
Digital is binary.
hey rob! how was the large fitting your size and how tall are you? i´m with 187cm between large and x-large. the reach of the large should be good for me but with the slack geometry the toptube is rather short.
Hi Rob, This rig interests me, but wonder whether it would be better to get a lightly used Merida e160 900 that reviews very favourably ,but it is not a 29/27.5, or is this Marin the one to get?
Wow sounds like Marin have come up with my perfect eeeeeb. Im still on my mullet levo . My tick list for a new bike are . Mullet , 160 travel , 64 head angle , 430 wish chain stay .... not set on the motor although like the prose and bosch. Sound like this could be it ....... although the fork would have to change .... I think you have that chain stay length wrong Rob ....... 335mm ????
Correct! I edited that type - thanks for spotting! Definitely 335mm chain stay which is pretty short for an eeb.
@@RobRidesEMTB My typing leaves a lot to be desired gggggggg 335 would be good for the national wheely champs .. cheers fro the great reviews mate .
Weird the forks aren’t plush. RS are known for small bump compliance.
YesSiRr!!😎😁😊!! Datz my kind of biKe!! EntRy level!! Hehe!! 👊👍👌🔥💯!! Thank you..
Is this bike still a good deal in 2024? Just watched a new last unit for 2900 €…
Hey rob, did you find the rear travel at 150mm to be enough when riding rough downhill sections?
Looks like your knees were almost hitting the handlebars? whats your inside leg?
After seeing your video 3-4 times. I’ll order one! Im 6f2 with long arms and legs , do you recommand me a large ou xl? I like to party with boyzz 🤘🏼and going fast. I had a large scott ransom 2019 and it felt short with 466mm of reach.
Cool bike but when are you doing the SC Bullit
i'm 181cm and i ride Patrol with reach=475, HTa=64. And i'm wondering how ebike with Re=486 would behave on slower and more technical trails. (i know i could blast in FoD's Ski run and similar (almost like DH) trails, but what about more technical riding?)
it's inherently stable thanks to bigger mass and lower CG. Do i need 486mm reach? maybe it's better to size it down ? Medium has re=465mm
Saddle looks a bit low even at full extension? Your knees might not thank you in years too come
Hey Rob! What would you prefer, E2 or Allmtn 7? They both cost 6199 :)
did you mess up the US price graphic at 0:30? $4499US seems a bit cheap. Great Vid.
No, that’s the correct price - $4499 US 👍👍
@@RobRidesEMTB not anymore. They jacked up the price to $4899… fucking covid
Yeah boy!!
I haven't even watched the video yet!
I would say this is going to be the one!!
Chainreaction won't freight the vitus Esommet to AU
Wiggle won't stock them in the AU Warehouse.
Now I will just have to petition Bicyclesonline to bring this into the country.
Willing to set fire to my one year old regular Sommet!! If they will?
We could do a video like the Phoenix rising out of the flames but instead it will be a Alpine
trail E2
Yeeewwwl
Good informative video but that bike looks silly small for your frame fella 😜
Hi mate... do you have a rocky mountain power player on the upcoming test list?
Great reviews best reviews going on ebikes😁😁😁😁😁😁👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks! 👍
Looks nice, is it unusual to see a coil from the manufacturer?
Seeing more and more specced on bikes these days
More pedal strikes than the Haibike due to low BBH?
I want it
I like your helmet. What brand is that?
The benefit of 7000 is the range for the battery used.
What about estimated range Of the battery?
The upgraded bike is a nice looking bike (would prefer it in the red) so I go to the Marin website to look up the bike and all I find are two rather sad looking Pine Mountain eMTBs..
Think they had some website issues after launching the bike and they don’t seem to be there at the moment.
@@RobRidesEMTB the website is fixed now.
How tall are you Rob ??
hello Rob, thank yoy for your interesting reviews, i've a question, what do you think about Rockshox 35 Gold Fork?
Not great at all. Budget fork. Poor damping and lots of stiction.
@@RobRidesEMTB in this case is not a good solution this entry level, the fork is important
Sure. I mention this in the video 👍
Rob: did it jump good?
So, basically a Kenevo Comp copy :)
I've the E2 on order from Phoenix Cycleworks. Do you plan on testing the E2?
Did you get eta on delivery?
Did it ever show up? I want to order but I’ve read that the ship date keeps getting pushed out for a lot of people
@@NickyNicest Nope.....still waiting 😴
is there walk mode?