Is the K1 Max better than the Bambu?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we test out the K1 Max and use the Bambu labs X1C as the benchmark. We take a look at the printer and go over some of its features and show of some 3d prints. If you have any questions just leave them down in the comments and ill do my best to answer them.
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00:00 Introduction
00:23 Set up
01:44 Software
04:03 Machine overview / Complaints
07:29 Size / Helmet Close up
10:06 Price
11:00 Comparing a few features
12:13 Benchy show down
15:26 Comparing prints
19:11 What one should you buy - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Bambu slicer (BambuStudio) is not based on Cura. It is based a fork of PrusaSlicer which is a fork of Slic3r.
Just ordered my P1S. This video, along with many other reviews, were really helpful. Thanks!
P1s is a great choice! It thanks for watching
I've been using Orca Slicer also with the K1 Max, and it's been great! I have V3 and it still came with the glass top btw. Great video
Thanks I’ll definitely try it and I’ve been seeing ones with the new lid in the facebook group, must be the new model 🤷🏼♂️
Great video as usually!!
Thanks! Appreciate it
My friend bought a p1s about a month ago, and received my K1 max just this weekend. I’ve been using Creality machines for about two years now and I can say other than build volume the Bambu machine is just better… not that I dislike my machine, I’ve already had issued with mine, ie parts missing, extruded clogging, print oddities, and more. While my buddy has had almost no issue at all with his bambu. I’ve had more issues with my K1 than he has had with his P1S this weekend than he has had in his month of ownership… still a nice machine and if Creality comes out with a multi filament system I think they will be much more comparable to those machines at that point.
That’s pretty much how I feel. K1 is a good machine they just missed the mark on a few things and my Bambu just works
@@TwoMooseDesign definitely. It doesn’t help Creality left out some parts out of my printer and UPS delivered all of my extra parts(build plate, and sonic pad) to someone else’s house.
Did you change your support settings to get them to come off so easy? Mine are extremely difficult to remove!
I'm in the market for one of these printers, and was leaning towards Bambu before this video. I currently have 3 Creality printers. After watching this video, I'm convinced, I'm going Bambu X1
Great video!!
Bambu is definitely on top of the game. K1 is a good printer especially if you can get it on sale but definitely requires more tinkering. If I was looking to spend around $1000 I’d buy a Bambu
I picked up a k1 a few weeks ago. For the money I am very impressed. But in my case I didn't mind modding it a bit. I rooted mine, shimmed the bed, printed a top cover and designed a door seal. I also only use orca slicer. That is the best one in my opinion and works via wifi etc. And just a heads up Bambu slicer is a clone of prusia slicer and not cura. Thanks for the review
I will definitely tinker with it, just didn’t feel like it was fair to do a review with mods. And thanks I’ll definitely check that out.
@@TwoMooseDesignthanks. And when or if you do root yours and install stock klipper it will help with the ghosting as creality chose to cut some corners and used the x imput shaper numbers twice to save time. And that make no sense. Once you root it will fix that. Now as for the zits. It is due to the z seam. You must have chosen random and not aligned. And yes pressure advance also will help a lot. It is a shame creality didn't spend a bit more time tunning it.
@@AndyRC thank you I appreciate the tips! Always learning, I think it’s a good printer but if they would of spent more time testing It could have been more competitive with the Bambu, it’s also a lot cheaper especially if you can get it on sale. Pick your battles I guess lol
Thanks for the review/comparison!
Thanks for watching I appreciate it
Bambu printers just work, and that's that. Creality printers have to be tinkered and maintained to even try to be performed on the level of an out of box p1p. Not to mention that bambu has the X1c is faster has better features and can have an ams attached to it. If anything, this is the end of creality.
I agree, I really wish it wasn’t so rushed it had potential. I still think it’s pretty good it you’re right on on the tinkering. Thanks for stopping by I appreciate it 👊🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign thanks your reviews are 👍
Half true.. you have to mainain every machine for it to work great. X1c is not faster, i work with them every day and the k1 max is faster and prity significantly. Ams ok. Well not everyone need or want. Its all about what you want and need for example i need that 300mm³ build volume so bambu is no match for creality. In my personal opinion its only about that k1 max cost 1/2 the price of x1c and that it is much bigger, i get that people just want to compare them but they are machines for different use.
@hauntycz5191 I see what you're saying, but comparing the two machines is like comparing night and day. The k1 was rushed and not ready, while the X1c, while being more expensive, was carefully thought out and come with all the bells and whistles. Right now, there's nothing really like the ams on the market except prusas version. So I will have to politely disagree. The ams is amazing. k1 may be a hair faster, but the print quality is okay at best. Any bambu printer works straight out of the box.
Very accurate. I have invested more time tinkering than printing on creality.
I got a P1P and did the P1S encloser upgrade and I pretty much just click print and it does the magic it does. My advice for cleaner prints is to turn off all the fans except for the parts fan. Works great.
Thanks for the tip!
I have an X1C but I dont have a K1 Max but I do have 7 other Creality printers.
I did not even consider getting the K1 Max as every Creality printer I have bought has had issues that I have had to fix myself and from what I have seen the K1 Max is no different.
Apart from having to print a few parts to get rid of sharp Bowden tube angles on the AMS I have had no issues with my X1 Carbon!
BTW Bambu Studio is a fork of Prusa Slicer not Cura!
Love my X1C, the AMS is wonderful. Right away when they launched them it sounded like it was a gamble on if it would work properly or not. Hopefully they cleared up most of those problems, mine definitely surpassed my expectations but the Bambu is a pretty high standard haha
Same thing happens with the AMS as is the case with every single Creality product. yOu jUsT haVe to mOd iT. PTFE guides and you'll never error on the AMS retractions. The difference being here one is an addon, the other requires mods to the base product to function at all though.
@@briankale5977 I did mention in my comment that the only thing I had to address was the AMS Bowden tube angles which I solved by printing some brackets.
My point was that all the Creality machines I have bought have come with issues and some of them major, I got sick of having to fix printers I paid good money for, IMO I made the right decision in not buying a K1 Max, the K1's are on their third extruder, the beds are like ski slopes (one poster on Reddit had a 1.4mm difference from one side of the bed to the other) most of my Creality machines are unrecognisable from their original form having been more or less rebuilt with better quality parts.
I sacked Creality long before the Bambu Lab X1 was released, I built a Pro 3D V-King 400 using the very best quality self sourced parts, it cost me a small fortune in shipping alone but I ended up with an awesome machine! a printer Creality could only dream of and even then they would have produced a nightmare for the people that bought it.
Yup my first printer was a creality Cr 6....Swapped that out after 2 years of constant tinkering to get anything to print with any kind of good quality, couldn't use the USB port because there was a risk of having it fry any device that was plugged in because we got notification that the printer wasn't grounded correctly, had the power switch fail after a week of ownership...Moved to Anycubic Vyper and had better luck but still more tinkering than printing...bought a Kobra 2 max and its been collecting dust waiting for a firmware fix for freezing mid print , Now I'm Running a Bambu Lab P1S and I have printed more on this printer since I purchased it this past black friday than any of my previous printers combined...I will never look back
and trust me, i have X1C andK1 - do not recommend the K1 to enyone! same as all other creality printers. more mass production that quality
I have been absolutely loving 3d printing, what kind of 3d printer videos would you be interested in in the future?
This is a solid review! Much appreciated!
Would love to see you compare the Qidi to the K1, or do a comparison of all 3! I am torn between these 3 and it looks like you did what I wish I could do - buy them all 😂
Currently the K1 Max is $700 and X1C is $1200 at my local micro center, which has me leaning towards the K1 as I don’t mind a little tinkering to save $500.
@@albinorhino103solid answer 😊
I guess if you need the build volume then yes, the K1. I just done with tinkering, I want to focus more on what it is I’m making than the printer which the Bambú does for me. Now I just dive down into CAD and design stuff. I’ve inspired more people to get 3D printers because of what I make.
That’s awesome! And for design I like shapr3d and nomad sculpt 👊🏼👊🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign Nice, I think the new iPad Pro is due around April this year. I’ve been wanting to try Nomad, but I might hold off for the new iPad. I checked out Shapr3D and it looks pretty awesome. Might try that instead of Fusion, since Fusion comes with stipulations. I’ve taken up sculpting in Blender, but I really like the simplicity of Nomad.
I'm an agreement with your overall conclusion. However I feel that the expectation that a lot of us have to do a significant amount of tweaking and tuning on your printer to get it to work well is flawed. Especially With people new to the hobby having an extremely steep and time-consuming learning curve.
Let's be honest, very few companies have made significant improvements in 3D printing over the past 5 years until Bambu entered the market late last year. Now everyone is scrambling to catch up and we have some decent entries. Bamboo has unequivocally proven that the steep time consuming learning curve is not necessary with expensive and very inexpensive machines that are extremely effective out of the box for absolute newbies.
I am not a newbie to 3D printing. I have worked with many in the past and have several of my own now.
The K1 Max was an absolute nightmare.
Whoever tested it completely clogged the nozzle to the point where I could not load it ( Even after heating it up to 50° past the max temperature it required and trying to push hard filament through).
I had to take the whole hot end apart (in terms of difficulty of hot ends this was one of the most time-consuming I've ever had to take apart and then ultimately reassemble in my life).
I hate to say it but I actually gave up. My K1 Max is completely packed up and ready to return. I did not get a single print out of it. My Bambu labs X1C and my Bambu A1 mini were the easiest printers I have ever used in my life. That includes printing with multiple colors and loading multiple spools on them for either individual multicolor prints or prints with multiple pieces of different colors.
I think as a community to include content creators we need to expect more from these larger mainstream 3D printing companies. Some of them have done nothing but make a lot of money off a brand name while giving us very little in terms of upgrades or improvements for many years.
There are many issues with the K1 Max that have not yet been resolved. The filament trail, the location of the filament, the angle of the filament being loaded into the hot end, these were all deal breakers that needed to be resolved before using the printer.
I will admit that if my hot end hadn't been completely clogged by what I assume was an incompetent tester (and this was not the first time and Creality is not the only culprit) I most likely would have worked my way through all these issues as the K1 Max represents the pinnacle of the printer I've been looking for from the day I was first interested in 3D printing.
The K1 Max may one day be the best 3D printer, but as it stands right now it still has many issues to work out in comparison to any of Bambu labs printers.
Unless you want to spend a lot of time with the printer doing upgrades and tweaks I would strongly recommend waiting until Creality works all the kinks out or somebody else comes out with a similar printer that works out of the box without a bunch of upgrades and tweaks.
My hope is that bamboo will now focus on a larger format printer.
Well worth the read and agree 100%.
now my neck hurts from all the nodding while reading your wall of text. 100% agree
Maybe use the correct temps.. I've never seen a hot end start at 50... Try 60 and a proper calibration 🙄
I think you just sold it to me. The tweaking element has kept me away from these, likely because I'm an engineer who will obsess more over tinkering than actual printing but it's the printing and 3D designing I want to spend my time learning.
I've read that the mesh bed leveling isn't the problem but rather the bed is not square and needs to be trammed. The bed leveling logic adds gcode to compensate for an out of level situation but if the bed leveling is too far off then the mesh logic cannot compensate. I had this exact issue with my Prusa Mini. I read many other people with the K1 Max are having this issue and added bed leveling screws to manually tram the bed
Early X1 models had the same problem. Some of the heat beds were severely warped and the bed leveling couldn't fully compensate. On the K1 max, with the larger bed, the bed is more likely to warp, and as you print higher temperature materials, the warping increases.
just a thought, have you changed to sunlu filament in the creality slicer? there is an option you can choose to change filament type.
I gave up on creality slicer, I just had too many issues with it even with creality filament. Switched to orca and I love it. The creality slicer seems to work great for some, just personal preference most likely.
I have the K1 Max and don't regret the decision at all, only thing that lets it down is the slicer. K1 owners should give Orca Slicer a go, the K1 profile is fairly solid now. Orca Slicer is a fork or Bambu's slicer with profiles for heaps of different brands of printers.
That’s the one I want! lol I’ll download it tomorrow and play around. And yeah I have no major complaints with the K1 Max it lived upto my expectations.
@@TwoMooseDesign if you're ok with enabling root access and installing fluidd or mainsail you can also use the device tab in orca slicer to send jobs directly over wifi just like creality's slicer.
I'm waiting for delivery on my P1S with the AMS, sounds like I made the right choice!
It’s a great machine, you’ll love it. The AMS is great.
You def did. I was dumb & bought the P1S by itself, then the AMS 2 weeks later so paid the full $350 for it. Still worth it though, been printing non-stop for weeks with zero issues out of the box. Only thing I had to mod was adding 200mm PLA rings around my Esun cardboard spools bc the AMS couldn’t spin them very well.
I have a X1C but my finnsih is nowhere near that good. Along the long straights i have some annoying artifacts. What settings have you used for the black boxes? What firmwere is your bambu running?
Run the calibration tests and make sure your filament is dry.
You can use Bambu slicer with the k1 max. I use it all the time and it works great.
Thanks for letting me know. I’ll try it out tomorrow!
I just got the k1 max and I hate the slicer that comes with it. You can’t navigate with the mouse other than using the box which you can only click on to look at what you are printing. There’s a couple things that I want to try like the mold setting but other than that I always use Bambu slicer and it works awesome. As for upgrading the k1 max I installed the new hot end from Micro Swiss which when I ordered it they didn’t have different sizes nozzles but now they have them in stock. They claim you don’t have to heat it up to swoop it out but I haven’t tried it yet.
bonsoi sorry to go off topic, can you give me the address where you bought your metal shelf @1min22s on video, I can't find a structure like that. Thanks, always good video.
To me it looks like the standard “industrial freestanding shelving” from Home Depot or Lowe’s. I have that similar shelf & I bought it from Home Depot.
Links to printers and filament in description!
I’m a beginner. Less that 600 print hours. Had a learning curve when I got my XC1. Had a few issues in the beginning that were my fault but after that I just hit print and I get great results that generally exceed my expectations. I have zero regrets buying the XC1. Zero.
I have an Ender 3 S1 Pro. It’s my first printer. I’ve been considering the Bambu X1, and then I saw the K1 Max. The ability to do multicolored prints with the Bambu, is a huge advantage. I think, if Creality can design a similar set up, and take their time ensuring it works, they’d have a better chance of competing. Thank you for this comparison. I think it’ll be worth the extra money for more options, and less hassle.
I 100% agree. One of these other companies need to come out with a multi color unit like the AMS
I’m honestly surprised Creality hasn’t designed one. Single color is fine, when someone is just starting out, but once you’ve been at it for a while, being able to seamlessly print in multiple colors becomes extremely appealing. I bought the Sonic Pad, and love it. If they had a multi-filament add on, that could integrate with the Sonic Pad, I believe they’d have a home run.
Yeah I thought they would have too. I’m curious if Bambu has some sort of patent.
Love my P1S and AMS units. The A1 & A1 Mini are great units as well (own all three). If there is anything that Bambu still needs to work on it's beefing up their support staff. The actual support is great but it can take some time to get help due to demand and staffing (six days in my case until first reply to ticket). They did send replacement parts (which took roughly 5 days after shipment) and unfortunately with the issue requiring multiple part replacements it took about a month and half to resolve. That all being said I still wouldn't make the tradeoff for a different brand. They are a victim of their own success on that front and I'm betting in another year or so things move a lot faster.
u get points for being real! Thanks!
I'm talking from Brazil, and on this date the Bambu X1 is costing US$3400 here and the K1 MAX is US$1200.
Therefore, it is obvious that the X1 has to be better, as we are talking about different products in different price ranges.
Penso o mesmo meu amigo, pelo preço aqui no br a K1 max é ótima. Tem alguma concorrente de outra marca pelo preço?
1. Orca Slicer for the K1 and the Bamboo. It´s like the Bambu slicer so you have a comparable experience for both this way and the slicer is just good.
2. Bambu print quality is a little better, bed mesh is better too, the bed is also a little smaller so it´s easier to get a smaller bed straight but even the smaller K1 has a worse level quality.
3. Creality is a lot cheaper though so...
If you also had the option for a pursa xl.
What printer would you pick??
I personally haven’t used one so I can’t say. I have a few friends who are huge prusa fans. Prusa seems to have a good reputation, if that’s the printer you’re interested in I’d say it’s probably a pretty good option.
Cripes, I wouldn'it buy a Prusa. They are far behind in developing new features, etc. I owned an i3 Mk3s and it was "ok", but it is really a tinkerer's machine. I have a Voron 2.4r and operate Ultimakers at work. We just bought a Bambu X1 Carbon with AMS at work. We unboxed it at 1:30pm and by 2:30 we were printing. It is amazing. I am seriously considering getting a Bambu for myself now.
The main problem with the creality brand is that their quality control is low and they are always rushing products.
Creality Slicer is based on Cura, Bambu slicer is based off prusa slicer. which if you are going to use a different slicer, use orca slicer for both.
Thanks for the insight! I’ll download it today and play around
Orca slicer must! One big reason better than Bambu is one feature missing, that is.. Generate perimeter on overhang... Must try this for support regions.
I’ll definitely look into that! Thanks for watching 👊🏼👊🏼
I have the A1 mini and thus use the bambu slicer. There are printer profiles for Bambu printers that can be used in Cura but Cura doesn't support the Bambu AMS and limits to 1 spool prints. I too had supports sticking out above the object from Bambu slicer. Not sure how to adjust that.
Weird in mine the Bambi auto supports work great. Maybe try tree supports 🤔 the A1 looked like it had good reviews. Personally haven’t used one my self but seems to be a great entry level set up
Try going into your support category and search for “Threshold Angle” and reduce that number until you get support where you want but not where you don’t. I’m using Orca but is very similar to the slicer you’re using. If this doesn’t work help I would change to tree supports and adjust that number.
I own both. I only slightly regret buying the k1 max. It's not as polished software wise as any of my bambu printers (x1c, p1p, p1s, a1 mini, a1 yes i've compared them all) the bed required shims, the lidar only works with their slicer (big negative, although who's to say it makes a difference) but at the end of the day, it's almost as good (90% ish) AND can print the big parts none of the bambu printers can. I hope creality stops the rush and refines their k1 series further. That seems to make or break a company in today's market.
does sunlu filement work with the speed of the k1?
I’ve been running it per their recommendation of 200mm/s the hyper runs at 300mm/s. I’ve read people in the facebook group running sunlu pla + at that speed with no problems. I typically run regular pla but just got some plus to try.
@@TwoMooseDesign thanks i might get a k1 max when it goes on sale cuz my neptune 3 plus can't get it right and dont know what else to do
@@hansherrera6969 they had a ton of sales through the holidays. Keep an eye out I’m sure they will have more.
I was on the fence between the k1c and the p1s. At the. My best experience I had previously was printing with an old XYZ machine. And I've been messing around trying to upgrade and fix crappy machines ever since. I decided I'm done with the printer being the project. I bought the bambu and I couldn't be happier. It just works. I click print and my part is there a couple hours later. Buy once cry once. Don't make my mistake and think you can make an inferior machines work well. The price difference isn't that much and it will save you 100s of hours of frustration.
My Bambu has been great and I’ve had it over a year now
Creality is available in India for almost the same price. Bambu lab printers on the other hand cost 3x of the MRP. Bambu needs to figure out the worldwide shipping issues
I have 2 x1c and they are great, just need a little more build volume amd they would be even better.
I have the X1C and prints great! I agree wish it was a little larger
how do you do multi material or color on the Max. It is the only real difference to me in what I buy
You can’t, you’d have to buy a Bambu to do multi color with an AMS.
I am looking for someone to print 1000 small caps out of TPU 90A, Is that something Two Moose would be interested in?
Support settings seems a little janky. would recommend the tree/organic supports in PrusaSlicer. I think they are in other slicer software
Great review. Thank you. I purchased the K1 Max as it has a bigger build size and the price in Canada was CA$1,150.11 after taxes with K1 Max + Hyper PLA*2 + Nozzle kit + Smooth and textured PEI Build Plate. The Bambu would have been close to 1500 or more. On thing on your video you mentioned tweaks that you made. Might I suggest that you indicate what the tweaks were to get to your final results. This would greatly help others trying for those great prints. Also not sure if either printers were actually bought by you or sponsored by either companies.
Thanks! The machine loves the hyper pla. I’ll definitely include more info on tweaks on future videos. Mainly all I change is pressure advance, flow, and temp. In the creality software there is a calibration drop down. I purchased the Bambu like a year ago and the K1 max was sent to me with no stipulations from creality. No contracts or pay just the printer. Appreciate you watching 😁
I have 2 creality printers 5 plus and an ender 3 v2. While they both are decent I have to always play and adjust them or upgrade. I bought a X1C over a year ago and the 2nd one 8 months later. I have had failures printing but for the few times it happens, its an easy fix. Bambu Labs are the reason that everyone has fast ptinting now. I will stick with the Bambu Labs since they just work. Sure the Creality is a bit bigger but it won't be long before Bambu comes out with a bigger one.
Agreed
I love the hand to point hahaha. Nice touch
I have the Bambu x1c. I can't get my texture PEI plate to work, nothing is sticking to it..what was your temp at say for just PLA basic.. no glue
I have mine at 55 and works great. Make sure it’s clean. Maybe do 60 first layer and 55 for the rest and see what happens
is there a way to program or pre set the Temps for different level height?
Mine works great, no glue or hairspray. Way better than the stock gluestick plate. Stock settings.
Clean the bed good with rubbing alcohol. Make sure in the slicer you have it set to textured bed
After you set it to textured bed in the slicer you should be set.
I actually bought the K1 Max on sale for $511.... BUT, I'm considering returning it and getting the Bambu Lab A1 instead. Size difference isn't an issue for me. And i just don't like the idea of having to tinker with it just to get it to print. That and I didn't find the reviews for the K1 Max very reassuring...
I can't get the K1 Max belts looser. The adjustment doesn't seem to work. So it has ringing like crazy.
I also have a K1 max printer I just bought it and thank you for the information. The product you made for the glass at the top is very good, can you please send me a file of it or is it on your website. Thank you.
Hey! Thanks for watching! It’s not my file, I found it on printables.com for free. Just type in k1 max in search several should come up! 😁
Thank you@@TwoMooseDesign
Chep used a different slicer with the K1 Max and it drastically changed the print quality.
Oh yeah totally rigged it. The k1 max prints great, it was just that one specific filament. Try a few and one will print awesome with stock settings
Do Banboo do a printer without an enclosure that is as quick and accurate as the one tested?
Bru, yah, Bambu A1 - Check out the combo. It comes with the AMS.
The Bambu Lab P1P
You're being so lenient and graceful with the K1 Max hahah. Probably given the price point lol.
Use Orca Slicer works amazing on my k1 max and as well u can view and command the printer in orca
The K1 is open sorce just for that ++++
I bought 2 creality Sermoon D1s brand new. They were horrible, main boards went out twice on both. Fast forward to buying a P1S the shit is crazy how it prints without the tinker.
Bambu is hard to compete with! They make some great printers. If people have the budget I typically recommend the p1s with an AMS. Some people also hate Bambu as its closed source.
The lines can be fixed with printing outside perimeters first.
I'm returning my k1 max. 4 days into owning the max it dug a massive hole in the build plate after an auto bed level and lidar scan. This ruined the nozzle and hotend as well as the build plate. So I replaced hotend, nozzle and build plate and before I could even start the first print it threw an error code 111 which appears to be a main board or print head board failure. I'm guessing that the board failure is what caused the initial bed crash. Anyway it appears that some people get good ones, and some people like me get shipped a lemon. Support was terrible.
Best advice is to stay TF away from Creality. Terrible printers imo. No two printers are equal and their beds are all warped AF. Nothinf but shïte.
Double click on “quality,” “normal,” or “fast” preset for K1 Max’s slicer to fine tune support (and all other) settings
Every Creality printer takes work to get running and keep running. However, if you watch a teardown of the Bambu printers, I think you're going to find that, beyond a certain point, they aren't fixable and are manufactured to be disposable. Like that $100 DVD player. Only it cost $1600.
Warning for anyone considering a K1 Max or any creality product.
K1 Max here with under extrusion and over extrusion on the bed just like this... and it got worse the more I used it.
Along with wall layers not sticking together and benche separating from the first layer during print(but looking fantastic up to that point)
Then got a ginding noise from the z axis motor ontop
3 weeks with Creality(plus weeks I spent trying to find the problem myself before contacting creality) trying to find faults including taking the machine apart to check screws were not lose and other stuff. They couldn't find a way to fix it...
I asked for a refund and was denied, apparently having a good half or more of your large prints failing even on the first layer and mechnical noise that sounds wrong is not grounds for a refund/replacement.
I feel the k1 max is a very solid machine and does not need the tinkering of other Creality machines
Thanks for your input! This is my first creality printer and over all it’s been decent. Prints pretty good overall once you dial it in some.
@@TwoMooseDesign yea I agree I have a cr10 that no matter what I do I can’t get it to print , this k1 max has performed flawless for me so far (about 10 prints , 100 hrs or so) I am ordering a x1c on Wednesday though so I’m excited to run both
Almost bought this, decide to buy X1C intsead
X1C is a great machine. It was my first purchase
would the Bambu AMS work with the k1
No, maybe if you’re really good with messing with things. I haven’t seen anyone do it yet
Try orcaslicer instead. It‘s the slicer of choice for bambu and creality printers as well as all other printers.
Thank you! I will
5:12 That is simply a PTFE tube, you call a BOWDEN system when the motor pushes de filament through a long PTFE tube from behind, up to the nozzle, other wise is called a DIRECT DRIVE, when the motor is slightly on top of the heat break and fans, and it pushes de filament into the nozzle, but it does not need a PTFE tube in the middle.
Thanks for the correction
14:04 X1C did a pressure advance calibration on the first print too. This will took some time.
We planning to purchase a K1 MAX, or P1S. My brother wants volume, but for me P1S just looks like better choice - also possible AMS in future is just nice possibility. After your video, I just dont know, and by comments below K1MAX seems as worse choice...
Do you have either of these printers? If so what do you think? Overall the x1c was super easy to learn on and is a powerhouse! The K1 Max is also great for the price, it’s been pretty good just a little sensitive.
I've got the X1C, and it was / is still amazing, but after a lot of tinkering. I still have a LIDAR fault after this most recent firmware update and have got no response from my ticket I submitted 9 days ago. So I wouldn't recommend bambu at the moment maybe if they improve the customer support, but they have been saying that since before July.
I have the X1 Carbon and Snapmaker J1... both great printers but size is a limitation. Had to re-do a couple of models to fit on the X1 and would have worked perfectly on the K1 Max no doubt. Quick question... did you print in PLA and if so, what did you use to glue in the magnets?
@@michaelfowler603 dang that sucks, luckily I haven’t had to contact support with mine
@@dholi2k hey! I use pla like 98% of the time and I just used super glue, the holes are pretty tight to begin with and I used a pliers to press them in. I’ve also had some fun imbedding the magnets and the machine prints over them
excellent video, first time here. good luck on youtube. new sub here. after having snapmaker 2.0 used it several time bought it few years back and started using it since didn't get a chance to use it first day, i am already regretting it. at my job, we recently purchased the X1C and omg instant love. This machine is 2x or more faster and better in every way. The software so intuitive its a dream machine. anyone used the snapmaker?. is there any way i can make this thing print faster ? also why is it so damn loud ? hahahha. i guess i can use the CNC and laser features and forget about 3d printing in this machine. i will definitely be purchasing the X1C soon. Happy Printing. thanks.
Love to know what you tweaked to get the beautiful wall finish on the Bambu black box at17:30
Hey! If you’re using a Bambu do the pressure advance calibration. You can also try lowering the max volumetric flow rate a touch, if a filament is kicking your but throw it in a dryer and try again.
@@TwoMooseDesign Thank you!
Use Orca (It directly Supports the K1).. BTW Orca is based on Bambu Studio.. Bambu studio is based on Prusa Slicer... Prusa Slicer is based on Slic3r.
Awesome! I’ll check it out and thanks, wasn’t sure on all of that.
Great video. I almost fell in love with K1 Max. But then this video showed me "her" different sides.
I own ender 3 pro and cr-10v3 and I'm really tired of 3d printer maintenance.
Dude... I am at pain right now struggling with some stupidity in my CR-10V3... I want to sell the house and buy the Bambu with the AMS
@@jjptech Me too. I really really want a bambu lab printer with 300x300 bed.
@@ZERONEINNOVATIONS same. If bambu had a 300x300 bed i would be buying that. but my brother owns a standard k1 and i understand its issues well enough that a K! max wont phase me. I just need the bigger bed. really wish it had an AMS option though.
I still use my Creality printers but it always just seems like the printers take constant tinkering to make them work. I would much rather Creality charge a bit more and just iron out the simple things they always seem to overlook to save a few dollars here and there. (like the bowden tube) That large print space vs Bamboo ease of use is the only real debate here, IMO.
Hopefully they solved all the problems with the new K2 machine! Also I wish Bambu would make a 350 sized machine
@@TwoMooseDesign 100% That k2 looks awesome and the build size is sweet. I hope to see you make a video on one.
I believe I’m getting one, it doesn’t launch until the end of July I think so might be a bit until they start sending them out for testing. Can’t wait to see it next to the X1C
I have the K1 Max, the glass top barely touches the Bowden tube, not even enough to interfere. I’ve always found it funny what ya’ll call “tinkering” or “maintenance “ on Creality has nothing to do with the machines and more to do with your inert desire to just mess and screw around with things. The “upgrades” that are always mentioned are only “needed” so you can satisfy that tinkering desire, again they are not needed to make the machines work.
I have 4 creality, 1 flsun, 2 bambu 3d printers.
When you buy Creality or printers like it, you are introduced to the engineering problems of the 3D printers world to get a good print. You do research on how to fix these problems and you become a 3D printer troubleshooting engineer.
When you buy bambu or similar quality 3D printers, you are well on your way to becoming a manufacturer in the world of making 3D products.
Which path you choose is up to you.
The corner spotting on the K1 Max boxes is just the seam being supposedly hidden so it isn't a straight line,
BambuLab has blown up in popularity for a good reason. They're better in every single way.
they are great printers for sure! Defiantly changed the game and made everyone step it up!
I just wish they were cheaper
@TwoMooseDesign What did you do exactly on the bambo to get rid of those holes in the box?
Run a pressure advanced calibration, you could also drop the max volumetric flow rate a touch. I’ve also decreased retraction before on some filaments as it pulls back to far when it starts the new layer.
Run k1max on bambu slicer and do the prints again. So much of the problem is the slicer. I have a ender 3 s1 plus with Sonic pad and it's not in the list of printers so i used k1 Max. G code wasn't perfect but the print turned out better then anything it's ever printed before
I would never consider creality again after owning one of their printers. Too much difficulty finding parts and getting support. I had features slowly stop working until the entire board failed.
Ouch that doesn’t sound good. I probably wouldn’t with an experience like that either.
Just skip cura and go strait to Orca slicer. Bambi’s slicer is based on Prusa slicer. Bambu from what I understand basically took their slicer and created Orca slicer which makes its basically work with all printers. You definitely should give it a try. I’ve tried them all by and definitely appreciate having everything in one slicer now. Also near the top left calibrate will make tuning for filament much easier with instructions for those that need it.
I’ll definitely give it a shot! It’s annoying having 4 slicers haha
Bambu slicer are based of Prusa slicer which is based of Slic3r.
Creative video, thanks :)
Hi,
I'm curious. What was the cost & quantity of filament used for the helmet printed on your K1?
Also, if you were to print a slightly scaled-down version of your helmet on the Bambu, it would
be interesting to find out if you would be able to see through the "eye screens", or not.
This is the second video of yours I've watched. Both have been informative and easy to watch.
Great job! Looking forward to more.
Thanks Alot,
Jim Dasher
Spectrum Graphics
Seattle metro
Hey! I don’t remember how much the helmet cost but filament ranges from $13- about $25 for a whole roll. I’d guess the helmet cost me around $5-10 with the magnets I glued into it. As for the eye pieces I think that was more so on me and how I printed the part you see through. I’ll have to try again on the other printer in a different orientation and see. I appreciate you watching.
Great review but I still can't decide between the two. Currently using Anycubic Kobra 2 Neo and want to upgrade to a faster, high quality printer. The K1 Max is on sale for AUD $1211 on Creality's eBay store and the X1C is AUD $1839 (without AMS) so there's a big price difference there. I've heard Bambu lacks customer service and Creality requires more tinkering to get quality prints out of the box. If K1 Max had AMS I'd buy one without hesitation.
The P1S is a good printer too and less than the X1C. Either way I think you’ll have a blast. I haven’t heard of an issue with Bambus support personally I haven’t needed it. And my K1 max is pretty good other than the first layer but the bed can be shimmer to help that.
@@TwoMooseDesignK1 Max is $1150 on sale in Australia, the RRP was $1429 so it's an awesome discount 😅 I want to pull the trigger but I'm also considering waiting another month as I think Creality are releasing their AMS, their recent FB post suggests this any way haha. I have never tried prints from Creality or Bambu but I'm willing to give both brands a shot, maybe once Bambu releases a bigger printer in 2024.
i had no problem with the filamentsensor, for my usage it's a perfect printer, it's quick with a high print quality, to bad there is no AMS like thing for the K1 max.
I wonder why they don’t? I’m curious if it’s like a patent kinda thing and Bambu owns the AMS technology? That would be awesome if other prints had it too
Actually, it looks like the zits on the corner can be fixed by running a quick pressure advance calculation.
That’s what I did and helped a ton 🤌🏼🤌🏼 thanks for the tip!
The only reason I bought the K1, because I got it for like $350. I just need a printer for ABS. If I would've had to pay $500 or more, I would've gone for the Bambu A1, I would NOT pay full, original price for the K1. I don't think it's ever gonna be full price again anyway and they may, then I'd tell people to find a deal instead, don't pay full price for these.
Bambu slicer is a fork of Prusa slicer which is a fork of Slic3r
Crazy they all just bridged off of a couple haha
Thanks for the correction I wasn’t sure
Can't you add supports manually?
Yes but sometimes it won’t let me in certain areas. I don’t know if it’s just buggy software or what. I did on the helmet but it took forever.
I don’t switch slicers with the printers typically, I just use Cura Aracne beta for almost everything.
I also have neither of these printers, but communities usually have them up after the first few kickstarter orders arrive
Thanks for the insight 👊🏼
Cut the filament at a 45 degree angle and it will help with the sensor.
Creality: When you want to buy cheaper and like issues to tinker with
Bambu: When you want to buy for the right price and know you'll have company support and less issues
I’m curious rather to get this or the Qidi max3
I’ll probably do a video comparing the 3. The Qidi is about $900 and is larger than both of them. It also has a heated chamber so I can print harder to print filaments a little easier. I don’t have much time only that one as I’ve been focusing on the K1 Max. But seems good so far
@@TwoMooseDesign yeah size and heated chamber are two important factors for me. I do have some concerns with Bambu labs rails over time. Being they aren’t really something easily replaced I’m kind of hesitant to get one.
@@Bigpopp1 it looks like a new carbon assembly is $90 which isn’t awful. Curious to see how it holds up after a while.
@@TwoMooseDesign true it’s not bad. I’m mostly familiar with linear rails where you just need to clean and lube them and cost less but I will agree that’s not as bas as I imagined. But that does end up on the landfill.
bambu lab as the K1 & k1max profile on there now
Ohhh I had no idea, I’ll check it out today.
Its really hard to beat Bambu right now.
They definitely set the bar high!
Interested in that Spiderman helmet, very nice!!! Files? Lol
I got it off Printables
Thank you bru!
Thanks for watching I appreciate it 👊🏼
Id be curious about overall final price comparison. K1 vs x1c with upgraded extruder on the k1. Because if we look at this logistically someone is looking at this to know what to buy, no? So 1500 vs 1500 what is the better machine.
Just to add if anyone thinks either of these machines are set up, clicj slice, click print you are sorely mistaken. Every printer needs tuning, tweaking and maintaining. 3d printers are dumb machines and need someone who knows what they are doing to properly run them.
K1maxprintin2colors?