Congratulations on the first explanation about the non-sphere infinio. Hopefully there will be a comparison between Oticon Intent cross and the Phonak Intinio cross soon
Very comprehensive video review Rachael and good to see some focus on the non Sphere model. It does seem slightly at odds that the latest Phonak product releases are not increasing battery life as all other manufacturers releases with some form of AI are managing to retain current size and increase battery capacity. Is the battery drain therefore from the Era chipset as well as the sphere additional chip. ?
I was surprised about the lack of battery capacity increases, too. I think it has more to do with the battery they are using than the actual chip drain, but I could definitely be wrong.
I was recently fitted with a pair of Infinio 70 series RIC aids. I was in my trial period using the Lumity 70 series and decided to upgrade to the newest model. I'm very happy with the Infinio lineup. The Autosense 6.0 seems to jump from one program to another much less often than the Autosense 5.0. I have BCBS and used my Truhearing benefit. My out of pocket was only $1400 including my $1000 deductible. The Lumity 70 and Infinio 70 series are the same price in my case. I'm going back next week to do some minor tweaking of the aids. Overall I'm thrilled with them!!!
Is t-coil available in the non-spere HA? I didn't really get a good understanding of this during the presentation. I need t-coil when attending church. I would like to upgrade from my 5yo marvel audeo 90 HAs.
I was just fitted with the Infinio Ric-R 90 Friday and the Bluetooth connection was nowhere near 350 feet with an iPhone on a golf course with no obstructions. About 150 feet max before it started cutting out. I couldn't leave my iPhone mounted to my bag and leave it at the next tee and walk to the previous green without Bluetooth cutting out. Other than that, I love them so far.
I was supplied with my first and only ever pair of hearing aids, Phonak ones, three years ago. They are not just useless: they are worse than useless. Apart from being uncomfortable to wear after a couple of hours, I have to take them out if someone is speaking to me. They function more like ear-plugs than hearing aids.
Well, after having my Oticon OPN S-! BICROS, I took the plunge and I'm waiting for my PHonak Infinio BICROS to arrive. I do wish they had made the CROS compatible with the Sphere as most of us with SSD share the same difficulty of hearing in noisy background environments. The Roger device is said to be extremely helpful in noisy environments, but in my opinion, it's just too expensive.. I sure hope this new PHonak CROS and Infinio RIC is an improvement.
I have a Roger On and don't believe it is helpful in noisy environments, it's good for conference rooms not a restaurant. It cannot compare to an Active Noise Cancellation remote mics. Maybe someone can connect an ANC wireless mic to Phonak. I can do that with Apple AirPods and some mFi aids but not with Phonak.
@@kshermy Thanks for the info. I'll just continue to whip my head around and try to get a word here and there. Seems as though SSD are always left with a step down in technology.
The Speech in Loud Noise program (the program getting all the buzz in the Sphere's) relies on utilizing the microphones on both devices to work. I presume this is why. Both devices do have microphones, but the CROS transmitter mics must not process sound the same, or it can't transfer that info over correctly. This is why no one who wears one hearing aid should get the Spheres!
@@rachaelcookaud2695 that is exactly what my audiologist explained to me---that it has to do with the CROS not being able to utilize the technology. I'm waiting for my new Phonak CROS infinio/Phonal Infinio to arrive. Hopefully, there's an improvement from my previous BICROS systems. I really wish these companies could understand the frustration in seeing such wonderful improvements for typical hearing impaired patients and only tiny (if any) improvements in technology for SSD.
What's the background noise comparison difference? Between the Infinio ric, oticon intent and starkey evolv ai.!! Like you done with the Infinio sphere.
@@DrCliffAuD That's great. You already put out that information in the sphere review video. I was wanting to know where the non-sphere stood in the rankings. Thanks anyways.
I'm currently trialling the Beltone Serene 9 RIC + CROS, and will be trialling the Ininfio 70 + CROS next. Which is better for speech in loud noise in your opinion?
I would consider looking at the Signia IX CROS system as an alternative if you have an iPhone. They seem to have the lowest latency for audio transmission which may affect CROS performance and their binaural features seem to still be available for a CROS fitting.
LE audio will be great when it is widely used in transmission, but not having a telecoil is a major omission for those of us who connect to hearing loop systems. IMHO, this is a major misfire on Phonak’s part.
Hey I wear hearing aid and there a big issue of the 16 models are not working properly and I called apple and they told me they are getting a lot calls and confirmed there a flaw in Bluetooth and accessibility and no one on TH-cam are testing the hearing aid
Hi dr clip from nepal I have profound hearloss which one phonak are you recommend for me best one I don’t have problem with price but I need speech clarity .
@Justme-wu5nw you are reading my mail. I now have the new Phonak Sphere Infinio 90s and am testing the difference from my Paradise P90s and my AirPods Pro 2. I do need more test time on my Spheres but so far I would have to say that neither the Spheres nor the AirPods are sufficient for air travel noise. I had to wear an ANC headset over both of them when streaming movies on multiple flights. I didn't expect the Spheres, nor did I find, the Spheres to outperform the AirPods as the AirPods cover the entire ear with little leakage and apply ANC to all the noise. Even the best closed dome ITEs only apply passive noise reduction and would not do as well as the AirPods, as once the noise gets in there is nothing the Sphere can do to eliminate it. I think the FDA Approval will rock the Hearing Industry and lead to fully functioning Ear Buds
@@kshermy unfortunately, the FDA Approval of the Airpods Pro 2 will do nothing to the hearing aid industry except for make it stronger. Performance of Apple's current hearing aid feature is severely lacking as a hearing aid. As far as ANC, you can't do it without a fully occluding your ear canals and canceling 100% of the outside sound, including all speech, which defeats the entire purpose of a hearing aid.
@@DrCliffAuD I agree with the poor performance of the AirPods as capable hearing aids. As for occlusion, I respectfully disagree. I know occlusion well and Apple seems to have cracked that nut. Occlusion is minor and environmental awareness seems quite good. I favor the AirPods over my Spheres for calls in all streaming in noisy environments. That said, I would be love to schedule a best practices session with you to max the performance of my Spheres and do some AB testing against the newest AirPods. You likely know I have little regard for noise reduction techniques but do hope that AI can match or exceed ANC. My current dream is EarPods over my Spheres
@@DrCliffAuD Please review these devices again, you might be surprised. The AirPod Pro 4 is described as an open fit and both the 2 and 4 have transparency settings offering good speech pass thru while maintaining good fidelity as well as noise cancellation. I'm going test the 4 by wearing it over my Phonak Spheres soon as they arrive
A lot of information to process. There’s a lot of good improvements but i still question whether there are enough improvements to upgrade. I love my Phonak Audeo Lumity. I love my Roger On In microphones. Having a shorter ear wire is a plus. I don’t see the battery life suiting my daily needs and i would still need to put them back in the charger to meet my streaming requirements . And although a telecoil would increase the size, i am disappointed that this is not an option. And finally, when is Phonak going to get more colors in their lineup? I may be in a minority as far as wanting a more fashion forward color but i also think it would make them easier to find if you set them down or accidentally drop them. I would even be okay if they brought in a bright white that can be decorated.
great review but i kinda wonder who is gonna buy these. everyone is gonna want the sphere. i know these are a little smaller but I doubt it'll be enough to sway people.
I think it will sway many people! The Spheres were way too large for my ears, especially with any glasses on. And CROS compatibility is a big win here.
...and then all of their stocks immediately recovered. The Apple AirPods Pro hearing aid feature is not new, they got 1 day of media attention, and now that feature will likely fall back into irrelevance.
@@DrCliffAuD We will see in the coming days, when the distribution will be completed to 100 countries around the world after two days, people will become aware of hearing loss.
What happens with these hearing aids when the rechargeable battery needs replacement? What will the costs be? I wouldn't be surprised to find that the costs of replacing the rechargeable battery will be steep. And what programming is available to extent battery life like with phones and laptops?
You guys dont listen to me. Replaceable batteries are following the Dinosaurs. Rechargeable battery tech gets better and better. It's just a matter of time.
As far as I’m concerned since this new infinio launch does not include the sphere in the BiCros then to me it’s not much of an improvement over my Paradise. It took them forever to figure out how to get the BiCros and the paradise, but once they figured out the technology involved, it’s not a great leap to include it in Luminity or Infinio hearing aids. Nothing new for BiCros tech. The next hurdle for Phonak will be to have programming in the BiCros and the ability to put the Sphere DeepSonic chip in there. Until Phonak comes out with new technology or programming for the BiCros there isn’t much advantage for me to purchase
Congratulations on the first explanation about the non-sphere infinio. Hopefully there will be a comparison between Oticon Intent cross and the Phonak Intinio cross soon
We shall see...
Yee that’s what I want too lol
would love to see a comparison between the non-sphere and sphere models in different environments
I hope the charging time last longer! I put my hearing aids on at 9:30 am and they are dead by 6:50 pm! I can’t get new until 25 because of medicaid
want a background noise comparison between infinio R (non spheres) and Infinio spheres or Oticon intenet.
Very comprehensive video review Rachael and good to see some focus on the non Sphere model. It does seem slightly at odds that the latest Phonak product releases are not increasing battery life as all other manufacturers releases with some form of AI are managing to retain current size and increase battery capacity. Is the battery drain therefore from the Era chipset as well as the sphere additional chip. ?
I was surprised about the lack of battery capacity increases, too. I think it has more to do with the battery they are using than the actual chip drain, but I could definitely be wrong.
I was recently fitted with a pair of Infinio 70 series RIC aids. I was in my trial period using the Lumity 70 series and decided to upgrade to the newest model.
I'm very happy with the Infinio lineup. The Autosense 6.0 seems to jump from one program to another much less often than the Autosense 5.0.
I have BCBS and used my Truhearing benefit. My out of pocket was only $1400 including my $1000 deductible.
The Lumity 70 and Infinio 70 series are the same price in my case.
I'm going back next week to do some minor tweaking of the aids.
Overall I'm thrilled with them!!!
When le audio comes out will you gain the option to share audio with someone else like the AirPods can do
Is t-coil available in the non-spere HA? I didn't really get a good understanding of this during the presentation. I need t-coil when attending church. I would like to upgrade from my 5yo marvel audeo 90 HAs.
hello there, can you tell me what the battery life of a Infinio-cros combination is or is going to be?? 19:22
I was just fitted with the Infinio Ric-R 90 Friday and the Bluetooth connection was nowhere near 350 feet with an iPhone on a golf course with no obstructions. About 150 feet max before it started cutting out. I couldn't leave my iPhone mounted to my bag and leave it at the next tee and walk to the previous green without Bluetooth cutting out. Other than that, I love them so far.
Dang, you have HIGH expectations for Bluetooht range. Previously it was 30 feet. LOL!
150 feet is a major improvement!!! But yes I was skeptical about ~300 feet.
The old charger model fits my custom molds... Also a battery powerpack would work when needed.
I was supplied with my first and only ever pair of hearing aids, Phonak ones, three years ago. They are not just useless: they are worse than useless. Apart from being uncomfortable to wear after a couple of hours, I have to take them out if someone is speaking to me. They function more like ear-plugs than hearing aids.
Sounds like the programming of them!
Well, after having my Oticon OPN S-! BICROS, I took the plunge and I'm waiting for my PHonak Infinio BICROS to arrive. I do wish they had made the CROS compatible with the Sphere as most of us with SSD share the same difficulty of hearing in noisy background environments. The Roger device is said to be extremely helpful in noisy environments, but in my opinion, it's just too expensive.. I sure hope this new PHonak CROS and Infinio RIC is an improvement.
I have a Roger On and don't believe it is helpful in noisy environments, it's good for conference rooms not a restaurant. It cannot compare to an Active Noise Cancellation remote mics. Maybe someone can connect an ANC wireless mic to Phonak. I can do that with Apple AirPods and some mFi aids but not with Phonak.
@@kshermy Thanks for the info. I'll just continue to whip my head around and try to get a word here and there. Seems as though SSD are always left with a step down in technology.
@@ALaughaday1 let us know how it goes.
The Speech in Loud Noise program (the program getting all the buzz in the Sphere's) relies on utilizing the microphones on both devices to work. I presume this is why. Both devices do have microphones, but the CROS transmitter mics must not process sound the same, or it can't transfer that info over correctly. This is why no one who wears one hearing aid should get the Spheres!
@@rachaelcookaud2695 that is exactly what my audiologist explained to me---that it has to do with the CROS not being able to utilize the technology. I'm waiting for my new Phonak CROS infinio/Phonal Infinio to arrive. Hopefully, there's an improvement from my previous BICROS systems. I really wish these companies could understand the frustration in seeing such wonderful improvements for typical hearing impaired patients and only tiny (if any) improvements in technology for SSD.
What's the background noise comparison difference? Between the Infinio ric, oticon intent and starkey evolv ai.!! Like you done with the Infinio sphere.
HearAdvisor objective testing Ranks the Sphere infinio as the Best, Oticon Intent in 2nd place, and the Evolv Ai in 3rd place.
@@DrCliffAuD That's great. You already put out that information in the sphere review video. I was wanting to know where the non-sphere stood in the rankings. Thanks anyways.
Yes. No BiCros etc in the Sphere. Yes for these aids
What's about Graphene driver in BTE
I have the phonak audeo paradise hearing adis will that charger work with phonak infinio hearing adis????
I'm currently trialling the Beltone Serene 9 RIC + CROS, and will be trialling the Ininfio 70 + CROS next. Which is better for speech in loud noise in your opinion?
I would consider looking at the Signia IX CROS system as an alternative if you have an iPhone. They seem to have the lowest latency for audio transmission which may affect CROS performance and their binaural features seem to still be available for a CROS fitting.
Have you noticed they don’t automatically pair to a Bluetooth desk phone if you leave a room then return to your desk?
Great video, Thanks
You are welcome!
What is the db range of phonak?
LE audio will be great when it is widely used in transmission, but not having a telecoil is a major omission for those of us who connect to hearing loop systems. IMHO, this is a major misfire on Phonak’s part.
I think they truly just run out of room. They have to decide what to keep and what to scrap based on consumer trends.
Did all the unpairing and resetting iPhone nothing fix it but when going back to old iPhone their no issue
Hey I wear hearing aid and there a big issue of the 16 models are not working properly and I called apple and they told me they are getting a lot calls and confirmed there a flaw in Bluetooth and accessibility and no one on TH-cam are testing the hearing aid
Make Phonax model Audéo P90-RL
Hi dr clip from nepal I have profound hearloss which one phonak are you recommend for me best one I don’t have problem with price but I need speech clarity .
We’re all waiting for apples EarPod pro 2 review from you since they released there IOS 18 today FDA HEARING AID APPROVED
FDA OTC heaing aid not Prescription hearing aid.
@Justme-wu5nw you are reading my mail. I now have the new Phonak Sphere Infinio 90s and am testing the difference from my Paradise P90s and my AirPods Pro 2. I do need more test time on my Spheres but so far I would have to say that neither the Spheres nor the AirPods are sufficient for air travel noise. I had to wear an ANC headset over both of them when streaming movies on multiple flights. I didn't expect the Spheres, nor did I find, the Spheres to outperform the AirPods as the AirPods cover the entire ear with little leakage and apply ANC to all the noise. Even the best closed dome ITEs only apply passive noise reduction and would not do as well as the AirPods, as once the noise gets in there is nothing the Sphere can do to eliminate it. I think the FDA Approval will rock the Hearing Industry and lead to fully functioning Ear Buds
@@kshermy unfortunately, the FDA Approval of the Airpods Pro 2 will do nothing to the hearing aid industry except for make it stronger. Performance of Apple's current hearing aid feature is severely lacking as a hearing aid. As far as ANC, you can't do it without a fully occluding your ear canals and canceling 100% of the outside sound, including all speech, which defeats the entire purpose of a hearing aid.
@@DrCliffAuD I agree with the poor performance of the AirPods as capable hearing aids. As for occlusion, I respectfully disagree. I know occlusion well and Apple seems to have cracked that nut. Occlusion is minor and environmental awareness seems quite good. I favor the AirPods over my Spheres for calls in all streaming in noisy environments. That said, I would be love to schedule a best practices session with you to max the performance of my Spheres and do some AB testing against the newest AirPods. You likely know I have little regard for noise reduction techniques but do hope that AI can match or exceed ANC. My current dream is EarPods over my Spheres
@@DrCliffAuD Please review these devices again, you might be surprised. The AirPod Pro 4 is described as an open fit and both the 2 and 4 have transparency settings offering good speech pass thru while maintaining good fidelity as well as noise cancellation. I'm going test the 4 by wearing it over my Phonak Spheres soon as they arrive
Are the phonak audeo good for speech clarity
A lot of information to process. There’s a lot of good improvements but i still question whether there are enough improvements to upgrade. I love my Phonak Audeo Lumity. I love my Roger On In microphones. Having a shorter ear wire is a plus. I don’t see the battery life suiting my daily needs and i would still need to put them back in the charger to meet my streaming requirements . And although a telecoil would increase the size, i am disappointed that this is not an option. And finally, when is Phonak going to get more colors in their lineup? I may be in a minority as far as wanting a more fashion forward color but i also think it would make them easier to find if you set them down or accidentally drop them. I would even be okay if they brought in a bright white that can be decorated.
Great Video!!
As far as the well size in the charger goes they have snap receivers. Take off to charge put on to wear.
They are difficult to remove and replace & will eventually break over time if done too often.
Great idea but could definitely lead to more rapid wear and tear on the hearing aids.
Are they water proof?
Yes
great review but i kinda wonder who is gonna buy these. everyone is gonna want the sphere. i know these are a little smaller but I doubt it'll be enough to sway people.
I think it will sway many people! The Spheres were way too large for my ears, especially with any glasses on. And CROS compatibility is a big win here.
Some people with a smaller wallet and the need longer battery life, may be swayed.
this is the only option for those who need a CROSS. Spheres are not compatible with CROSS.
After Apple announced the new headphones that include a hearing loss feature, the shares of companies that manufacture hearing loss headphones fell.
...and then all of their stocks immediately recovered. The Apple AirPods Pro hearing aid feature is not new, they got 1 day of media attention, and now that feature will likely fall back into irrelevance.
@@DrCliffAuD We will see in the coming days, when the distribution will be completed to 100 countries around the world after two days, people will become aware of hearing loss.
What happens with these hearing aids when the rechargeable battery needs replacement? What will the costs be? I wouldn't be surprised to find that the costs of replacing the rechargeable battery will be steep. And what programming is available to extent battery life like with phones and laptops?
You guys dont listen to me. Replaceable batteries are following the Dinosaurs. Rechargeable battery tech gets better and better. It's just a matter of time.
Mam ,can you suggest me Bluetooth hearing aids for listening music watching videos on phone as I have 100% hearing loss??
Please respond…
As far as I’m concerned since this new infinio launch does not include the sphere in the BiCros then to me it’s not much of an improvement over my Paradise. It took them forever to figure out how to get the BiCros and the paradise, but once they figured out the technology involved, it’s not a great leap to include it in Luminity or Infinio hearing aids. Nothing new for BiCros tech. The next hurdle for Phonak will be to have programming in the BiCros and the ability to put the Sphere DeepSonic chip in there. Until Phonak comes out with new technology or programming for the BiCros there isn’t much advantage for me to purchase
The main upgrade for the regular Infinio is the Bluetooth from v4.2 to v5.3. Eventually LE Audio made possible by this upgrade will be a big deal.
please SLOW down your speech - you are talking way to fast for individuals with hearing loss!
@@amysievertokeefe8268 feel free to adjust the playback to a slower speed. If you struggle to follow along it can help greatly.
Just slow down the video by using your settings. I do the opposite. I put it on as fast as I can listen so I can get through these very quickly.
Sphere was too darn large for my liking.
Fair!
N=1
I hope the charging time last longer! I put my hearing aids on at 9:30 am and they are dead by 6:50 pm! I can’t get new until 25 because of Medicaid