If it was Le Sserafim or Illit manager why would they want their group to associate with New Jeans when their "mother" MHJ was actively trying to cause hate towards them? If you had a child would you want your child being friends with the child of a woman trying to cause them harm?
You give MHJ WAY to much credit for the stans hating on Le Sserafim and Illit. Le Sserafim been getting dragged since their inception based on their questionable talents and Illit is a survival show creation which comes with a built in hate train (ask Engenes about that phenomenon) from disgruntled fans of those not chosen. Stans need to take responsibility for there own behavior. Fandoms have an innate need to victimize their idols to justify their shortcomings and dodge criticism; stans court haters on the regular so they can prove their protectiveness and loyalty (worth?) to their idol. MHJ gives you all cover to over do what you all have always done and will continue to do.
@@kaylabunnie5283 i'd like to disagree. Sure, both Illit and Le Sserafim hate train have arose pre-MHJ/ADOR vs HYBE. However, after MHJ dragged their name, Le Sserafim and Illit's hate have grown (you can see from their recent comments). As of now, i'd say the hate train kinda slow down... But, i keep seeing bunnies(?) commenting on both Le Sserafim and Illit's social (mostly on Illit's social)
@@kaylabunnie5283 id like to disagree too. Cause there are other creators that point out the "coincidence" between a few "dramas" involving BTS and Lesserafim and linking it to MHJ arrival in HYBE as Ador Ceo. She got angry with HYBE when they debuted LS before NJ. After that a lot of bad rumors about LS - specifically Garam's case - started and the train rate begun. With BTS enlistment same thing. I don't believe in coincidences. Especially after MHJ+NJ x Hybe started and she kept targeting these two groups plus Illit to be the cherry in the cake. I wouldn't be surprised if she has her claws in the few no sense drama involving some of Seventeen members in 2022/2023. Cause after BTS they are the most profitable boy group under Hybe.
@@kaylabunnie5283After MHJ theres multiple article every single day about them, youtuber and influencer also want some piece of cake, justifying hate for lack of talent, even now they're still milking those for content, if you ever look at their comments section, not only bullying and sexual harassment, but also child abuse! lucky lesserafim have experienced idol as a member to keep the younger sane, illit member went to psychiatrist! comment can kill you know.
@@adyaparamitaputripratama2786 Stans need an excuse to pour it on whether good or bad and will take any thing you give them to get the train started. Stans amplified every disliked comment (dragged their name?) to gain traction and justification for their own hate-filled bilge aimed toward MHJ/NJ, never realizing that they and the antis are two sides of the same coin. I was more struck by stans basking in the empathetic afterglow once they used MHJ workplace squabble to declare open season on Le SSerafim and Illit and antis answered the call for their services. Stans and antis get off on all this drama (as if they know these idols and their managers personally) and will say and do anything to keep it stoked for their own pleasure.
2 i cant imagine having the audacity to want people to be nice to you when you support a woman who has been dragging down these people. Ik theyre manipulated but this is next level entitlement
Belift lab also do same they uploaded nj copy other gg in official channel Also said nj copy nmixx dance step but actually nj dance uploaded first than nmixx For me belift lab and mhj are same and of course illit will support their company and nj their
I swear New Jeans just keep digging their grave deeper and deeper like my gosh i can't with these girls anymore also now that i think about this whole situation if MHJ didn't form that mother daughter relationship with New Jeans and instead a proffesional relationship I wonder how things would have turned out?
Probably nothing like what's happening now. From my own experience, when I had a mother-daughter relationship with someone who was an adult while I was young, I got too attached, wouldn't believe anything bad about them, and stuck by their side. If MHJ hadn't formed that mother-daughter relationship, maybe things would've turned out differently. I honestly feel bad for New Jeans since I was in that type of situation before. It's hard to think badly about someone that you view as a parent, even if they'd talk badly about you. But at some point, I understood that the person I had always stuck by was a terrible person, and maybe, hopefully, the girls will too.
2: Is it just me, or does anyone else think what the staff did to Hanni by telling the group to ignore her actually makes sense? I mean, I wouldn't hold a grudge about it because, honestly, it’s pretty understandable to say that, even after I showed support for the "enemy." I’m not saying it was the right thing to do; it’s definitely a complicated situation. But we can't just ignore the fact that it might have been an attempt to keep things professional, or even safe JUST IN CASE. Like, it makes sense to not interact until things are safe and resolved. Sure, we should talk about workplace bullying, but sometimes the dynamics are messy, and I get why they might have thought this was necessary. It’s a tough spot to be in!
@@elesyeen mhj accuse illit than belift lab also accuse newjeans And lesserafim mostly hated for bad singing skills and encore stages Mhj also said she has nothing with girls and she said about lesserafim that hybe said nj will debut first but he debuted lesserafim so whats wrong here
Rosé is OBVIOUSLY and VISIBLY unhealthy probably even sick but that (like you and many others said) can be due to other factors😭 not everything correlates to drugs. I know a little bit about this firsthand (mental problems took an effect on my eating habits and appetite) not to THIS extent but enough for me to fix it, so seeing ppl immediately point to drugs is just dumb to me😭
I agree. Even if we know the industry is full of recreational drugs I want to think she is clean on that area. Actually, I have a nice with such problems and I blame it all to toxic media standards. I would like to watch her return to her luscios brawn hair and the weight of her debut, she looked gorgeous.
@@belaytriks I totally agree‼️ and I’ve been begging for her original hair color😭 she’s killing her hair every other week with the amount of times she bleaches and dyes it.
i fully support illit or lesserafim’s managers telling them to not interact with newjeans. those girls have sided with a woman that is the reason they’re getting hate. i like newjeans but i will not be supporting them until mhj is gone and they wake up
woah woah calm down there... newjeans were literal kids when the woman started brainwashing them, if anything, they're the victims too, they deserve more kindness and support than anyone else
2. This is ridiculous. If Hanni does this then groups like BlackPink (mismanagement), BTS (mistreatment by their staff during their early days), G-idle (no comment), Loona (we know), Zerobaseone (we know), Red Velvet and Eco (mismanagement) and so on should do the same cause they have had it way worse in all different ways. I like New jeans's music but I am tired of their drama.
don't cry because those groups didn't speak out and new jeans did.. if anything, this is helping them and bringing light to workplace bullying. you people are so weird and just want to hate on njs meanwhile mhj has been there since they were young. obviously they're not gonna toss her to the side when they're close freaks.
If belift lab and manager not have bad intention they can told illit alone or told when drama started but saying in front of her looks disrespectul Also they said newjeans copy other group and uploaded in their channel They show newjeans dance and nmixx and said nj copy nmixx but actually nj uploaded first and nmixx date is late
@@g100-w6j i don't support mhj i support new jeans. anything you say about that woman, i dont care about 😂 but what yall not finna do is keep bullying these girls because they wanna speak up for themselves.
3: It’s gonna blow up in her face if she tries, ‘cause MHJ has a *massive* track record of BS. Girl’s been caught lying so many times, it’s almost her brand at this point. Documentaries are supposed to be based on facts, not whatever fake story she feels like spinning. If she thinks she can twist things again, it’s only gonna backfire and make her look even worse. Honestly, she’s digging her own grave VERY DEEP at this point.
@@AUGHHHHHBBG that wasnt a lie. mhj encouraged them to not do the live and newjeans still did it behind her back without notifying her that they were going to proceed with the live. they told the truth, yall just lack comprehension.
that wasnt a lie. mhj encouraged them to not do the live and newjeans still did it behind her back without notifying her that they were going to proceed with the live. they told the truth, yall just lack comprehension.
I was just thinking about Lindsay. I think the people concluded with drugs because of how it was for celebrities in the 2000s and they have stereotyped this which is wrong
2. I don't think the case will last. Hanni being ignored is not bullying but it is isolation. Isolation that was caused by MHJN when she decided to speak on other groups which caused those groups to get hate train. No idol is at fault for that woman action. 3. I wonder what lawsuit are gonna come out with this documentary since she has been exposed for lying multiple times on so many people.
@@koma7512 The girl is openly supporting the person who dragged others. People are brave enough to ignore in order to avoid inciting unnecessary hatred again. If I am, I will simply ignore and move on. How childish to complain that people are not saying hello.
1: Totally! People are losing it over the whole “Rosé is a drug addict” rumor. It’s ridiculous how fast they jump to conclusions just because she’s skinny. What’s really crazy is that it was never about being “concerned” for her - it’s just people picking apart how celebs and idols look. This is a perfect example of how toxic beauty standards are ruining them. The pressure to look a certain way is so intense that any small change in their appearance sparks wild rumors. Instead of caring about her well-being, people are just fueling this harmful cycle. It needs to stop. And, some BLINKS were really coming to her defence saying "She is naturally skinny" PLEASE-
1-im so worried for her because the industry and its unrealistic beauty standards are eating each idol alive one by one and tearing their mental health and their confidence in the process.
If newjeans have really been seriously mistreated and they have solid proofs they can just sue the company like what loona did, if they are bold enough to publicly support Min hee jin, and hold a livestream without the company's permission to talk about the alleged "mistreatment", they might as well hire a lawyer and take it to the court. Since the beginning NJ/ MHJ are trying to win the public sentiment, they know Hybe has a lot of enemies and haters, but the thing people seem to forget is that Hybe like any other company, their main objective is money and money only, as long as they have money they have nothing to lose, and NJ is a product of Hybe's money and resources, that is meant to gain more money, they can be replaced anytime, but NJ have a lot to lose without Hybe, the biggest mistake they made is involving themselves in a mess they can't handle. I mean last year SM was a whole mess because of Ceo battle struggle, have you seen any members of Aespa or NCT involving themselves in it ? No, they stayed professional and neutral.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking since the beginning of this circus. If you are really mistreated THAT badly you just file a lawsuit. You don’t name drop illit, Le sserafim, BTS and freaking aespa every two business days. This groups are irrelevant in you feud, you go straight to court because you have evidence of VERY heavy mistreatment. Right? But these guys just cry and cry and cry Aespa have my respect for staying neutral very intelligent of them
You all trivialize pedophilia too much. It is a very real crime not just some gag label to fling at someone for giggles just because you don't like them or their style.
I just want this drama to end and I just want them to leave the industry for a few years and then return again with better mental health and better stamina bc right now their career is fully ruined there is no way they can save it
@@ok-hw8xk the Korean gp doesn't care at this point and this hanni thing has the potential to blow up in her/their faces. The Korean gp already thinks her going to talk about work bullying and harassment is a joke over a CEO not saying hello and a manager saying to another artist to ignore her (if that's even true because she's not Korean and tends to mix up words but who knows). They think there are more serious issues to address and spend time and tax payer money on
@@g100-w6j then go advocate for the people who really need to be in court then. hanni doinf this could help future cases of workplace harassment in korea.
2. I can't. I just can't. Because supposedly someone said to ignore her?? That was the only thing she could come up with when giving an example of "bullying" or "mistreatment". It's so trivial. If that is all they can complain about, they have a great life and they should be ashamed that they want to act like they're mistreated when other idols are living the lives they claim to live. That is pathetic that anyone is giving it any time. Where is the concern with MHJ bullying Illit?? Then Hanni ADDED to it by bringing that up knowing their fans would think it was Illit. There is something about this group I have never liked. They give mean girl vibes and I don't care what their fans say.
If belift lab and manager not have bad intention they can told illit alone or told when drama started but saying in front of her looks disrespectul If someone mistreat you and if you dont raise voice then it will continue for you and other There is nothing wrong
@@rainbow_shorts_chan Mistreat?? LOL. For saying ignore her? Really? Where is her outrage of MHJ calling her a fat pig and other vile names. Where is her outrage of MHJ laughing at a $exual abused victim? Where is her outrage of her fans going to Illit's social media and bullying them? They could've stopped it by speaking up and telling them to stop, but they didn't, so I don't feel sorry for them because someone said to ignore Hanni. THat is NOTHING compare to what Illit and other have gone through at the hands of the women they're protecting. Shame on anyone supporting that.
2. I am so sorry but it's kinda hard to support njs now bc all they do is whine yes at some moments they got mistreated but they created such a big issue out of nothing her being ignored isn't bullying it isn't work place harassment and honestly what does she expect when she is supporting a women like min who ruined careers of diffrent people and koreas Labour committee is a joke bc they didn't care when idols like loona were getting mistreated or when omega x were mistreated i cant believe they did nothing about that but when hanni gets "mistreated" they are suddenly taking action 3. No words just mhj on a regular day playing victim card but honestly no one will support her documentry except her fans bunnies
1) When I first saw Rose after a while I didn’t even recognize her because of her weight. I know she was always very thin but this looks more like anorexia and it’s not good, whatever fandom you are and even if you don’t like blackpink this is not for you to grab the opportunity and make fun of it, cause it’s a HEALTH ISSUE and blinks telling her “omg you look amazing, I want her body” you don’t really know the harm you are doing to her, you see her smiling and everything but you really don’t know what it’s happening in her head and when she is alone. Same goes for her blonde hair, girl it’s been years and she is still damaging her scalp. So like this we can deduct she is doing this for the public and not herself, you’ll think idols or artist don’t know what’s happening on social media but they know and they pressure themselves more everyday to appeal the public but even if they do it they will get criticized and it’s okay, you are a person and you don’t need to be perfect. She needs a psychologist.
Seeing her was shocking, i don’t listen to black pink often but seeing her as just a person im very worried for her, if anyone I cared about looked that small I would have an intervention with them and I hope she has people in her life giving her the help she needs. She doesn’t even have muscle anymore in her legs which is a hallmark of an eating disorder, god I hope she’s okay that is so scary
2. I been saying this all day. This feels like a set up. The Korean government knows this is an easy case to blow up bad. This isn’t a case that will most likely win in hanni favor which gives them a chance to be like “We tried to do something” whenever questioned about putting effort in workplace bullying… This is crazy
3. I’m not even shocked but I wanna see what she got cus ATP she is a clown and she is giving us a free circus show. Even watching her press releases had me laughing so hard so I want this cus this is better than SNL 😭 The stans are even gonna be more funny cus ik they gonna eat it up and gonna sound so stupid
I feel like in Korea its always hybe vs politicians like we had the omega x case that really needed the government intervention even nct taeil case but once its hybe it becomes a state of emergency the fact that they had to set up a panel/committee because hanni wasn't greeted properly is so....
Small insignificant company vs publicly traded conglomerate with economic power level consequences... The workplace is not grade school where the cool kids get to decide who deserves to be picked on and who doesn't. Taeil's case involves a living victim so, unfortunately for the always frothing Stan-O-sphere, the case is being handled with more delicacy than Suga's apparently victimless DUI case. HYBE, or more likely, BSH brought this mess forth to be tried in the court of public opinion with the Stan-O-sphere (that they control) are judge, jury and executioner when the legal system didn't bend to his will. Don't need evidence or proof here just the common sense of the common faithful stan.
Korea have never had a track record of having a good government. I’m not even shocked anymore like they still have horrible bullying issues, the way they dealt with burning sun is ridiculous, how they deal with most mistreatment cases, etc They been a mess
4: Absolutely! The idol training system is a total disaster masquerading as a talent powerhouse. They package it like it's all about nurturing stars, but in reality, it’s just a toxic cycle that churns out overworked and exploited individuals. The pressure to conform and perform is insane, and they’re treated more like products than people. Calling it a "training system" is just a convenient way to gloss over how fundamentally broken it is. Honestly, it’s time for a reality check; this isn’t about developing talent-it’s about profit and control. If things don’t change soon, we’re just going to keep seeing more burnout and heartache, while the industry pretends it’s all sunshine and rainbows.
What does hanni expect I wouldn’t talk to you either if a woman you and your group support is getting my group dragged and our managers based off unproven claims. It’s better to just not interact until the matter is resolved so I get why they didn’t speak, it’s unfortunate the manager had to tell them not to infront of her but hanni has to understand that it’s just better this way until things are resolved.
MHJ is directly has bad intentions. She basically tried to throw shade to all the groups under hybe. Especially İllt. People say that NJ doesnt have fault and they are children then what about Illt. They could have been more understanding but they fed the hate train with this copying alligations not to mention K, Kazuha, Soobin even Bts. So i hope they just let them go with that woman and let them do what they want. They are causing harm to their collegues as well. Also it is sad that NJ getting manipulated by that woman and ended their career. That woman only thinks of herself. She is really toxic.
Oh! They can go, as long as they paid every songle penny and fine to Hybe and each brand that has suport them. They loosed their "innocence" when they took a side in public. It that moment their silence against all the things their ex-CEO did and said became compliance, before that it was neutrality, after become them becoming aboard with all that. Look how they tried to "defend" aespa but never the rest of Hybe. They are so down the rabbit hole they can not understand that affirmation made them the bullies by assosiation.
@@belaytriks Totally agree. They also dont understand the fact that Hybe was the one promoting them. Good producer is of course important but there is a lot good groups with good songs and good members but doesnt get famous because they dont have enough promotion like the big companies. They think they owe all the success to her while Hybe already have a ot of talented producers
Why do I feel like at some point fromis or katseye gonna be dragged in. Or another male group under hybe. Like watch her randomly mention &team and say that was her idea or smt dumb
@@AUGHHHHHBBG She is pretty delusional so it is possible that is why they need cut her ties with the company which is NJ. If the group was really important fer her she would accept their offer as producer she wouldnt insist on being a Ceo
1. The fact is we don't know why she lost weight, it could literally be so many things. I'm naturally slim but recently went below 100lbs because I developed a stomach issue and was unable to eat properly. So I'm not gonna judge cause we don't know why but being that slim is unhealthy and I hope whatever it is can be sorted out.
With MHJ & Hanni case tho if they got the support in the assembly & they got the nod that they were indeed was mistreated, we gonna see they will use that to break their contract. Bcz I've been thinking it's so ridiculous, what can they possibly gain from appearing there since either way the trust is completely broken now, not only between MHJ & Hybe but between Hybe & Newjeans too, & the only way they can continue their career with MHJ & do whatever they want is if they're out of Hybe. When I reach that part it become clear for me. It probably part of the plan since the beginning. They were building a case, collect support & evidence. & what support & stronger evidence to back their claim that they were mistreated than getting the nod from the National Assembly? Don't forget, MHJ was a part of SM ent. & SM is the only SK entertainment company that facing so many contract termination lawsuit from their former artist. MHJ probably already learn the ins & out of the contract & what will hold in court. While Hybe, they're a baby. They're so new in the industry they barely have any control over media let alone this is their 1st time facing contract & lawsuit battle like this. Hybe need to cover all their bases. They make the mistake of hiring a snake. MHJ wouldn't survive in that ruthless industry & become 1 of big name in it if she never play the same game like those dirty male execs. Everyone who still can't see how dirty & manipulative she is is just plain blind & stupid.
1. The majority of idols are skin and bone. So I'm not shocked. 2. If it is true, Hanni just dug her own grave. 3. Not defending MHJ, but HYBE isn't that innocent either. Both are at fault.
I want to see MHJ documentary because there won't be any stan interference; it will be her story told in her voice as she sees it. HYBE and their stans controls all of the info about this case so I think her doing a documentary could be a good venue for her perspective to be aired without the stan narrative attached.
She already shared her perspective many times. It's all bs in the end bc she is always exposed, but yes, I do agree hybe isn't fully innocent either, but it's way better than min
@@kaylabunnie5283All we've heard is her side, her press conferences, her interviews, her speech at the Hyundai card. Hybe lawyers only respond to her statements with statements, so how do they control the information? You would have to search long and hard to find an article that sides with Hybe. Hybe created the monster that is MHJ they gave her all the power and now it's biting them in the ass. It's unfortunate that the groups that have nothing to do with it have to suffer too.
I’m not defending hybe bc they have screwed up with promotions and other stuff but y’all have done a list of what bad things hybe has done. I genuinely want to see a list of “awful things “ hybe has done in this case .
mhj is so self centered its honestly so concerning. like if you were this so called mother figure to nwjns why are you releasing a documenatary that no one will give a shit about
2. I do agree that the bullying that hanni had to faced must be investigated, but yeah, it's really not that serious to go to that comitee, worst cases have come to light in the kpop industry and yet are left in the dark 'cause, in my opinion, it didn't drag the amount of attention that NJs case is getting, it's screams privilege.... 3. Showing us once again that it is about money, if she truly cared about the girls as she says, she would stop exposing everything so blatantly, all of that is just causing more harm to NJs and other idols (mostly Illit)
“ someone made those comments about somebody on the heavier side, they’d be crucified” I agree with your message that skinny shaming is bad but stop lying. That also just as bad and way too accepted. You yourself were talking about how the industry standards of being a skinny caused her to do this, do you think that fat people are accepted if the industry standards is so bad that somebody has to get that skinny. No, supporting a group of people that are being bullied(skinny people) doesn’t mean you have to casually invalidate another group of people that are going through the same situation.
How do you know she's doing it for beauty standards? Her weird loss could be for a completely different reason. Less stop making assumptions as to why.
On top of that, I wonder why korean and international fans such opposite takes on mhj because if you go any recent performance (super shy etc.) all the top comments are knetz supporting mhj, are we missing something or are they missing something? ++ i agree that mhj releasing a track(?) and all of that merch shit for "ador" is insane to me like...she's not even a member of nwjns. why does so much nwjns merch have just the company name on it as if it's mhj merch
People forget that when your body doesn’t get enough nutrients it starts to eat itself.. Rosè’s case is just another proof that the industry doesn’t care about your health as long as you’re popular and pretty. I hope she gets a long rest and recovers.
And her fans are hyping her up in the comment.. it's okay to be naturally slim but to be already be very thin and still continue to lose weight ..she might not be doing it on purpose but it's def not normal
Not to be that person, but how do we know that the greeting incident is the only unfair treatment she's received? She never said it's the first and only time in the livestream just it's the one she chose to share. There is a chance bigger and more serious things have happened behind the scenes, and she just chose not to bring it up.
I thought that too but then she went to the National Assembly which was likely her only (and safest) chance to bring up any other incidents if they were that bad
I hope rosé isn’t hurting herself to be perfect for her 1st full album. As long as she’s ok I never judge an idol of their body. Highlight on the “their body” part
2. No, not saying "hi" isn't workplace harrassment but their manager telling them to "ignore newjeans" in front of newjeans is literally outcasting newjeans! You know that isn't the environment idols have inside their buildings! Of course, a lot of people don't relate but this was literally outcasting newjeans and you would know if you were ever bullied in school because this is literally how bullying begins! "millionare idols" are the same idols who are underage and exploited to death. just because they're public figures, their mental health doesn't matter? And of course, the government is paying more attention to this because *it's a public issue.* They're *setting an example.* Also, you're right, groups like OmegaX deserve a platform but this is the same as arguing who faces more racism, who doesn't? Just because their issue seems trivial to you doesn't mean it might be. Who knows what evidence will pop up (mhj brainwashing them) when the investigation begins! They were literal kids when they met mhj! You don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes! Also, all of you are acting as if hybe didn't decide to put them on a one-year-hiatus when they decided mhj wouldn't be the ceo anymore. Do you need any more proof that hybe doesn't care about them? If anything, they're protecting their careers and dreams that was built on their exploitation and manipulation but for what? getting side-lined? *being called "are kids but subject to adult's fantasies" by illit's creative managers?*
I can't believe you all are hating on/blaming on people who were literally brainwashed as kids, were exploited, sexualized to hell, worked hard in their careers, was threatened to be put on a hiatus in the peak of their career, were side-lined again and again by their god-forsaken company instead of hybe who hires *creative directors that post nsfw pics of bound women for lsf* (eunchae is a minor) or illit's creative directors who called *nwjns "adults fantasies"* Yes, mhj was in the wrong while coming after illit for plagiarism issues but she never disrespected the kids. Yes, mhj is the pest here but the girls are just as innocent as lsf or illit. they've been clearly brainwashed yet people hate on them for something that have taught to believe since they were what? 13-14! on top of that, nwjns parents aren't helping either! they have bad adults around them anywhere. how come everybody else being minor matters to all of you but hyein being youngest one here doesn't? if you have the time to go hate on nwjns, why don't you go hate on band pd for overworking enha and txt and sexualizing eunchae to hell and back and hiring managers that outcast a particular group or hanging out with sex workers when minors work (/are forced to twerk) under him?
blah blah blah they are not bullying NJ because this requires actions that are repeated over time and it was only possible to indicate that they were not greeted on one occasion and that is not bullying, not even close. Do not try to make victims of those who until now have supported MHJ who did damage the image of other groups, undermining minors in their path.
I don’t understand how rosie was always slim ? As everyone is saying, she’s clearly looking very thic , She never was skinny infact she is the foodie of the group if you see her in her beginning mvs of blackpink , she’s unrecognisable!!
Nothing about rosé gives off the impression that she has mental health issues and definitely not a drug problem. She’s skinny. And she’s working in preparation for her new album roll out. She dropped a lot of weight when her solo came out, she dropped a lot of weight again when they were doing pink venom and shut down press and once again she’s dropped a lot of weight now. I don’t think it’s intentional at all. Yall keep running with this bs anorexia narrative as if you’re all concerned for her but you’re actually not. So many naturally skinny people get dragged to filth bc they’re too skinny and can’t keep any weight on. Yall scream body positivity from the high heavens but god forbid a naturally skinny person be freaking skinny 🙄🙄🙄 and until rosé shows any actual signs of “needing help” then I’ll take her health seriously. But stop projecting your insecurities onto her. It’s disgusting. Maybe actually worry about the idols that blatantly telling you they need help like bam bam 🤔🤔🤔
I genuinely hope Rosè can get proper help for whatever she is dealing with, I love her as an K-pop idol cause she always seems so kind and hilarious, plus she's my bias in BlackPink even though I'm not blink. I wish her the absolute best mentally, emotionally, and physically.
Timestamps: 0:01 1. Can we stop calling ROSE an addict and body-shaming her for being skinny? 2:37 2. Let's talk about NewJeans' Hanni. 4:29 3. Can you believe MHJ is planning to release a documentary? 6:18 4. The idol training system is a dumpster fire masquerading as a talent factory. 8:29 5. Let's review YENA's comeback "NEMONEMO".
i dont get the need to worry about someone who doesnr even know u exist, idols are responsible for themselves and themselves only. if they are having problem or doing whatever it is theyre doing that isnt beneficial for them then i wish we would stop needing to be concerned for every other idols health and wellbeing. it is tiring because they should know better to look after themselves better regardless of what it is they are doing and yes drugs are used in entertainment nothing new there then
yena is seriously a saving grace this year, nemonemo might not win a soty, sure. but from all the repetitve comebacks we have ahd recently im VERY please she released it, it might not be her best work and thats okay, but its high quality music. i hope she releases more of that
1. Its alarming how skinny rosie has gotten, the beauty standards are toxic. netizens jump at the opportunity to body-shame someone who's fat or skinny, there's really no way of winning when you're getting hate left and right, being fat as an idol means you aren't dedicated to wards your career, and being skinny means you're promoting an unhealthy body image?? what do they want from idols? to be flawless like robots? and its disgusting that people just jump to thinking that she's addicted, please, there's so many other factors that could lead to this. and idols are under the constant pressure of being skinny, not overly skinny, not fat, which just makes it worse. this is genuinely concerning.
1. the problem is that none of the fans would care if she was fat or ugly. if she was not an idol + not pretty + not skinny. she would be looked down upon. And its funny we say this to a celebrity but if it's someone from just a normal life, you all dont care. this is preformative on both ends.
ngl , im so over Mhj and new jeans. Mhj has brainwashed new jeans into developing a mother-daught relationship with her. Newjeans claim that hybe is neglecting them and trying to sabotage them, when the truth is thatMhj is holding them back cause she doesn't want them to be associated with Hybe. Mhj wants to claim New jeans as hers but with Hybes money. The girls scream mistreatment when fhere NO proof of it. They need to realise that there are groups out there that actually get mistreated . I get that hybe is super shady but if they continue to side with Mhj ( who has literally trashed them ) its only going to damage their image
Yea rosé has always been skinny but this is too much. Maybe she's on ozempic on top of her being skinny or she's suffering from an ED like Anorexia and the attention she gets from it just adds fuel to it
MHJ is a narcissist who will never admit she ever did anything wrong. She plays into the victim role instead. She started all these because of the audit, and she twisted the story to make herself a victim and a heroine.
So we cant hate on certain idols or cristizie unprofessionalism in a company but we can sure hate on a 19 year old who cares she doesnt have feelings 😂
Rosé has always been thin but before you could see her muscles and whatnot regardless, now her muscles seem to have gone away and no one should hate on her or be rude but we should all be genuinely concerned for her, I hope she has people in her life that are helping her with any issues she has
When I saw the pictures of her, I was immediately saddened, I don’t follow Rosie or blackpink much but how could you see someone in that state and not feel empathy, please don’t belittle her, but don’t ignore how unhealthy her size is right now, god I want to cry as someone with an eating disorder that’s so sad to see I’m going to follow her now and hopefully she begins recovery soon ❤️❤️love and support for her
How do y’all know the bullying is only about the greeting situation? Y’all don’t even know what is happening behind it all and make fun of potential victims? It’s a known fact how unbalanced the working environment is but as soon as it’s pointed out, y’all demean it and turn it into jokes. Pathetic, really. None of us knows about the hardships these idols go through and given the clean image they have to maintain, we’ll never ever find out. Or does it have to have tragic consequences for you to finally take these things seriously??
I'm not a blink. I mean yeah. Rose' looks a bit unhealthily skinny. But we don't know what she's going through and she disclosed it before that she has hard time gaining weight. So, feeling concerned for her is one thing and shaming her for it is another. And people who are taking advantage of this situation are just disgusting.
1. I love how pretty Rosé looks with darker hair. 2. I learned that Korea is facing the loose of 23 workers by negligence in the worplace and the heads of such bussiness did not confronted the justice properly and the case with the first lady still is going. I really want NJ going to court but in order to have an outsider adult bring them to reality and told them they are the bullies here. 3. The documentary would be interesting, if they dare to difame Hybe there could be new problems comming her way. 4. About the trainning system, I think is time we return to a slower society and a slower work culture. Even IAs are already starting to rebel against the explotaition people now call "production". It happened in Japan, the IA was asked to do to much things in order to "increase its productivity" and what it do was to change the date to deliver its work. I think that said a lot about the society in wivh we live and the standars the bussiness want to imposse to people.
She wasn’t caught doing drugs. That was a rumor that was debunked by not only her fans but the people she was hanging out with. But hey, believe what you want 🙄
#1: Rose knows what she looks like (the look is classic heroin chic styling from the 90's) and I am sure she also knew how the general Stan-O-sphere would react. Idols bank on the negative reactions to galvanize their handmaids and swains into protective, buzzy actions before they drop their comeback album/tour dates. All of it is purposely done and she got the response she wanted. Don't hate the player; hate the game.
Topic no.4 *_Overtraining_* (Sorry for the long comment) Idk man...🤔 SM's 2nd gen especially TVXQ, SJ & SHInee and BigHit's initial days with BTS's training... um... They didn't even have proper food to eat, nor a room heater in their dorms! As an SM stan I can tell you that SJ somedays went without eating!!! SM didn't have enough money to feed them or give them stipends. Except Siwon everyone else comes from very low middle class families. Leeteuk would buy 2 burgers and all 10 of them would share that!!! Yes, 10. Teuk and Heechul would just have an apple. On cold Seoul nights, they would all cuddle up to Shindong to stay warm. The rigorous training schedule, by the way, stayed the same!!! Hours and hours of dance, Japanese & English classes, gym, vocal lessons and a fruit juice for lunch. They struggled together. They were all teenagers. And they're about to have their 20th anniversary next year!!🎉 SHINee's Jonghyun would go into a sound proof studio and practice his vocals all night with a keyboard!! BoA and some SNSD members are a witness to his "overtraining". Onew chose the terrace to do his own vocal practice. Taemin being a minor was allowed to sleep, while Minho would spend those 3-4hrs of "rest at night" memorising rap lyrics. I'm sure we all remember how thin the SNSD members were post debut. It wasn't beauty standards. SM was just growing, so Lee Sooman literally couldn't feed them 3 meals a day!!!! How did these groups perform and turn out since debut? LEGENDARY!!!!! And the heartfelt part is, Lee Sooman didnt live in a condo at that time. He lived in the music studio and ate 2 packs of ramyun a day. I have heard that Bang PD would do the same too, while training BTS. Imagine 7 growing boys sharing 2-3 cups of ramyun along with their CEO, once a day. All this to say... no one can reach success without struggle and hard work. Keep your medical and psychological knowledge to yourself. Becoming an artist is not for everyone. Your goal has to be the bird's eye and nothing else should matter!! Yes you have to rehearse on empty stomach! Yes you have to use your resting time to sit with your work!! It's a penance! All these mentioned groups are now gonna go down in Kpop history! Will Lsf? Nwjns? Illit? These kids get so tired after a mubank performance! They can't hold their stability more than 30mins on stage!!!! Cuz... No stamina!!!! While U-Know sings live while doing cartwheels. I'm not saying anything. Receipts talk. Facts talk. So don't go coddling your precious little 10yr olds with... vocal artists say this and doctors say that! Sorry, but these kids will never become artists. They will never be Taeyeon, Jonghyun, Chen, Kyuhyun or Changmin. They're thriving off of controversies, and they'll be forgotten when the controversy ends.
It is true. But it is time to stop glorifing the abuse and precarity that society is pushing in people in order to success. I am happy new idols of some agencies has better living conditions and sad older idols have to go trought such lenghts but above all, I am sad that people, real people had to suffer in order to reach their dreams. Yes, we have to put effort, yes, it might be hard and uncomfortable but not one should have to put their lives and health at risk in order to succeed.
If it was Le Sserafim or Illit manager why would they want their group to associate with New Jeans when their "mother" MHJ was actively trying to cause hate towards them? If you had a child would you want your child being friends with the child of a woman trying to cause them harm?
You give MHJ WAY to much credit for the stans hating on Le Sserafim and Illit. Le Sserafim been getting dragged since their inception based on their questionable talents and Illit is a survival show creation which comes with a built in hate train (ask Engenes about that phenomenon) from disgruntled fans of those not chosen. Stans need to take responsibility for there own behavior. Fandoms have an innate need to victimize their idols to justify their shortcomings and dodge criticism; stans court haters on the regular so they can prove their protectiveness and loyalty (worth?) to their idol. MHJ gives you all cover to over do what you all have always done and will continue to do.
@@kaylabunnie5283 i'd like to disagree. Sure, both Illit and Le Sserafim hate train have arose pre-MHJ/ADOR vs HYBE. However, after MHJ dragged their name, Le Sserafim and Illit's hate have grown (you can see from their recent comments). As of now, i'd say the hate train kinda slow down... But, i keep seeing bunnies(?) commenting on both Le Sserafim and Illit's social (mostly on Illit's social)
@@kaylabunnie5283 id like to disagree too. Cause there are other creators that point out the "coincidence" between a few "dramas" involving BTS and Lesserafim and linking it to MHJ arrival in HYBE as Ador Ceo. She got angry with HYBE when they debuted LS before NJ. After that a lot of bad rumors about LS - specifically Garam's case - started and the train rate begun. With BTS enlistment same thing. I don't believe in coincidences. Especially after MHJ+NJ x Hybe started and she kept targeting these two groups plus Illit to be the cherry in the cake. I wouldn't be surprised if she has her claws in the few no sense drama involving some of Seventeen members in 2022/2023. Cause after BTS they are the most profitable boy group under Hybe.
@@kaylabunnie5283After MHJ theres multiple article every single day about them, youtuber and influencer also want some piece of cake, justifying hate for lack of talent, even now they're still milking those for content, if you ever look at their comments section, not only bullying and sexual harassment, but also child abuse! lucky lesserafim have experienced idol as a member to keep the younger sane, illit member went to psychiatrist! comment can kill you know.
@@adyaparamitaputripratama2786 Stans need an excuse to pour it on whether good or bad and will take any thing you give them to get the train started. Stans amplified every disliked comment (dragged their name?) to gain traction and justification for their own hate-filled bilge aimed toward MHJ/NJ, never realizing that they and the antis are two sides of the same coin. I was more struck by stans basking in the empathetic afterglow once they used MHJ workplace squabble to declare open season on Le SSerafim and Illit and antis answered the call for their services.
Stans and antis get off on all this drama (as if they know these idols and their managers personally) and will say and do anything to keep it stoked for their own pleasure.
2 i cant imagine having the audacity to want people to be nice to you when you support a woman who has been dragging down these people. Ik theyre manipulated but this is next level entitlement
Frr like what do u expect
@@sanazamir8341 when you say you, do you mean me or them?
Stans did more damage than to all those groups than MHJ opinions about their managers and their management styles.
Belift lab also do same they uploaded nj copy other gg in official channel
Also said nj copy nmixx dance step but actually nj dance uploaded first than nmixx
For me belift lab and mhj are same and of course illit will support their company and nj their
If belift lab and manager not have bad intention they can told illit alone or told when drama started but saying in front of her looks disrespectul
I swear New Jeans just keep digging their grave deeper and deeper like my gosh i can't with these girls anymore also now that i think about this whole situation if MHJ didn't form that mother daughter relationship with New Jeans and instead a proffesional relationship I wonder how things would have turned out?
Probably nothing like what's happening now. From my own experience, when I had a mother-daughter relationship with someone who was an adult while I was young, I got too attached, wouldn't believe anything bad about them, and stuck by their side. If MHJ hadn't formed that mother-daughter relationship, maybe things would've turned out differently. I honestly feel bad for New Jeans since I was in that type of situation before. It's hard to think badly about someone that you view as a parent, even if they'd talk badly about you. But at some point, I understood that the person I had always stuck by was a terrible person, and maybe, hopefully, the girls will too.
2: Is it just me, or does anyone else think what the staff did to Hanni by telling the group to ignore her actually makes sense? I mean, I wouldn't hold a grudge about it because, honestly, it’s pretty understandable to say that, even after I showed support for the "enemy." I’m not saying it was the right thing to do; it’s definitely a complicated situation. But we can't just ignore the fact that it might have been an attempt to keep things professional, or even safe JUST IN CASE. Like, it makes sense to not interact until things are safe and resolved. Sure, we should talk about workplace bullying, but sometimes the dynamics are messy, and I get why they might have thought this was necessary. It’s a tough spot to be in!
I'm with you like what was the group supposed to do after what y'all did with them ??
But it was disrespectul and bad if someone says that in front of you
If his manager really want to thing safe he can told them alone or when problem started but saying in front of her is disrespectful
@@rainbow_shorts_chan not more than the disrespect the other groups had to go through
@@elesyeen mhj accuse illit than belift lab also accuse newjeans
And lesserafim mostly hated for bad singing skills and encore stages
Mhj also said she has nothing with girls and she said about lesserafim that hybe said nj will debut first but he debuted lesserafim so whats wrong here
Rosé is OBVIOUSLY and VISIBLY unhealthy probably even sick but that (like you and many others said) can be due to other factors😭 not everything correlates to drugs. I know a little bit about this firsthand (mental problems took an effect on my eating habits and appetite) not to THIS extent but enough for me to fix it, so seeing ppl immediately point to drugs is just dumb to me😭
I agree. Even if we know the industry is full of recreational drugs I want to think she is clean on that area. Actually, I have a nice with such problems and I blame it all to toxic media standards.
I would like to watch her return to her luscios brawn hair and the weight of her debut, she looked gorgeous.
@@belaytriks I totally agree‼️ and I’ve been begging for her original hair color😭 she’s killing her hair every other week with the amount of times she bleaches and dyes it.
i fully support illit or lesserafim’s managers telling them to not interact with newjeans. those girls have sided with a woman that is the reason they’re getting hate. i like newjeans but i will not be supporting them until mhj is gone and they wake up
But belift lab also accuse nj copy and uploaded in their official website
@@rainbow_shorts_chanwhen did belive accuse Newjeans of copying?
woah woah calm down there... newjeans were literal kids when the woman started brainwashing them, if anything, they're the victims too, they deserve more kindness and support than anyone else
2. This is ridiculous. If Hanni does this then groups like BlackPink (mismanagement), BTS (mistreatment by their staff during their early days), G-idle (no comment), Loona (we know), Zerobaseone (we know), Red Velvet and Eco (mismanagement) and so on should do the same cause they have had it way worse in all different ways. I like New jeans's music but I am tired of their drama.
don't cry because those groups didn't speak out and new jeans did.. if anything, this is helping them and bringing light to workplace bullying. you people are so weird and just want to hate on njs meanwhile mhj has been there since they were young. obviously they're not gonna toss her to the side when they're close freaks.
@@ok-hw8xk mhj is the reason they're in this situation to begin with😭😭😭 but continue dkcriding her
If belift lab and manager not have bad intention they can told illit alone or told when drama started but saying in front of her looks disrespectul
Also they said newjeans copy other group and uploaded in their channel
They show newjeans dance and nmixx and said nj copy nmixx but actually nj uploaded first and nmixx date is late
@@g100-w6j i don't support mhj i support new jeans. anything you say about that woman, i dont care about 😂 but what yall not finna do is keep bullying these girls because they wanna speak up for themselves.
@@ok-hw8xk NJ is not defending itself, but MHJ. They are pathetic whether you like to admit it or not.
3: It’s gonna blow up in her face if she tries, ‘cause MHJ has a *massive* track record of BS. Girl’s been caught lying so many times, it’s almost her brand at this point. Documentaries are supposed to be based on facts, not whatever fake story she feels like spinning. If she thinks she can twist things again, it’s only gonna backfire and make her look even worse. Honestly, she’s digging her own grave VERY DEEP at this point.
Lying? When, where's the proof?
@@kaylabunnie5283the girls lied about mhj not knowing about the live but mhj herself said she did.
@@AUGHHHHHBBG that wasnt a lie. mhj encouraged them to not do the live and newjeans still did it behind her back without notifying her that they were going to proceed with the live. they told the truth, yall just lack comprehension.
that wasnt a lie. mhj encouraged them to not do the live and newjeans still did it behind her back without notifying her that they were going to proceed with the live. they told the truth, yall just lack comprehension.
@@user-yc4qb9pd3d79 MHJ encouraged them not to due it but she did know about a plan of doing a live. She did know.
Y’all wanna make excuses
She’s giving Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Ritchie when they went under 70 pounds skinny and all the magazines and media were obsessed I feel so bad
I was just thinking about Lindsay. I think the people concluded with drugs because of how it was for celebrities in the 2000s and they have stereotyped this which is wrong
Uhhh today my manager didn’t greet me, i should cryyy and rolling on the floor to my politician oppa minister.
Politician Oppa minister😂
2. I don't think the case will last. Hanni being ignored is not bullying but it is isolation. Isolation that was caused by MHJN when she decided to speak on other groups which caused those groups to get hate train. No idol is at fault for that woman action.
3. I wonder what lawsuit are gonna come out with this documentary since she has been exposed for lying multiple times on so many people.
Isolation is a form of workplace bullying.
@@kaylabunnie5283 no!
If someone has indirectly hurt or defamed you, you will either stay close to or avoid them.
We humans normally avoid them
@@musicadmire-1999Hanni is not even responsible for that, telling other employes to ignore her is directly bullying
@@koma7512if she wasn't supporting MHJ full on then maybe but that's not the case
@@koma7512 The girl is openly supporting the person who dragged others.
People are brave enough to ignore in order to avoid inciting unnecessary hatred again.
If I am, I will simply ignore and move on.
How childish to complain that people are not saying hello.
1: Totally! People are losing it over the whole “Rosé is a drug addict” rumor. It’s ridiculous how fast they jump to conclusions just because she’s skinny. What’s really crazy is that it was never about being “concerned” for her - it’s just people picking apart how celebs and idols look. This is a perfect example of how toxic beauty standards are ruining them. The pressure to look a certain way is so intense that any small change in their appearance sparks wild rumors. Instead of caring about her well-being, people are just fueling this harmful cycle. It needs to stop. And, some BLINKS were really coming to her defence saying "She is naturally skinny" PLEASE-
1-im so worried for her because the industry and its unrealistic beauty standards are eating each idol alive one by one and tearing their mental health and their confidence in the process.
She looks anorexic not thin
THANK YOU!!
Don't throw around terms like anorexia for god's sake
@@Darknight1211-sw2ko IM SERIOUS and if you were a real fan you would be too! She is clearly UNWELL
@@Darknight1211-sw2ko And what if it’s something they know about personally? They aren’t too far off tbh.
@@Darknight1211-sw2ko it could be likely.
If newjeans have really been seriously mistreated and they have solid proofs they can just sue the company like what loona did, if they are bold enough to publicly support Min hee jin, and hold a livestream without the company's permission to talk about the alleged "mistreatment", they might as well hire a lawyer and take it to the court.
Since the beginning NJ/ MHJ are trying to win the public sentiment, they know Hybe has a lot of enemies and haters, but the thing people seem to forget is that Hybe like any other company, their main objective is money and money only, as long as they have money they have nothing to lose, and NJ is a product of Hybe's money and resources, that is meant to gain more money, they can be replaced anytime, but NJ have a lot to lose without Hybe, the biggest mistake they made is involving themselves in a mess they can't handle. I mean last year SM was a whole mess because of Ceo battle struggle, have you seen any members of Aespa or NCT involving themselves in it ? No, they stayed professional and neutral.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking since the beginning of this circus. If you are really mistreated THAT badly you just file a lawsuit. You don’t name drop illit, Le sserafim, BTS and freaking aespa every two business days. This groups are irrelevant in you feud, you go straight to court because you have evidence of VERY heavy mistreatment. Right? But these guys just cry and cry and cry
Aespa have my respect for staying neutral very intelligent of them
The lawsuit would’ve definitely been the smartest thing to do especially when the medical records and trainee videos were leaked
You know why NJ side don't file a lawsuit about ut
1. They don't have solid proof
Ooff
Everytime we think this is the final blow for mhj she comes up with something even dumber 😭
that pedojin needs to put fries in the bag
IM DEAD BRO 😭💀
Okay no why did this comment give me nightmares.
Imagine u come back from work, go to a fast food place, and see min heejin making your meal 😟
@@AUGHHHHHBBG i will be happy lol it means she isnt working at hybe plus nwjns members will prolly help her
@@Wonycoded I would cry ngl. Like I wouldn’t trust food that comes from her 😭
You all trivialize pedophilia too much. It is a very real crime not just some gag label to fling at someone for giggles just because you don't like them or their style.
Notice how nobody from other groups or even bpd are not speaking in public? Notice how the ones dragging this drama is mhj and nj?
Sorry but if Min Heejin releases a documentary I’m gonna crash tf out
Don’t get mad but take it as a free comedy night. Imma get my sparkling water, popcorn, and thin crust pizza, and candy.
This is one of the funniest comments I’ve read today
Fingers crossed NJ disbands soon and all of this clownery comes to an end. What a pain in the ass the whole drama!
I just want this drama to end and I just want them to leave the industry for a few years and then return again with better mental health and better stamina bc right now their career is fully ruined there is no way they can save it
@@sanazamir8341korea is on their side, i really doubt they're ruined bc a bunch of people overseas say so..
@@ok-hw8xk the Korean gp doesn't care at this point and this hanni thing has the potential to blow up in her/their faces. The Korean gp already thinks her going to talk about work bullying and harassment is a joke over a CEO not saying hello and a manager saying to another artist to ignore her (if that's even true because she's not Korean and tends to mix up words but who knows). They think there are more serious issues to address and spend time and tax payer money on
@@g100-w6j then go advocate for the people who really need to be in court then. hanni doinf this could help future cases of workplace harassment in korea.
wow... they're victims in this too
2. I can't. I just can't. Because supposedly someone said to ignore her?? That was the only thing she could come up with when giving an example of "bullying" or "mistreatment". It's so trivial. If that is all they can complain about, they have a great life and they should be ashamed that they want to act like they're mistreated when other idols are living the lives they claim to live. That is pathetic that anyone is giving it any time. Where is the concern with MHJ bullying Illit?? Then Hanni ADDED to it by bringing that up knowing their fans would think it was Illit. There is something about this group I have never liked. They give mean girl vibes and I don't care what their fans say.
If belift lab and manager not have bad intention they can told illit alone or told when drama started but saying in front of her looks disrespectul
If someone mistreat you and if you dont raise voice then it will continue for you and other
There is nothing wrong
Like mother like daughter. MEAN heejin breeed
@@rainbow_shorts_chan Mistreat?? LOL. For saying ignore her? Really? Where is her outrage of MHJ calling her a fat pig and other vile names. Where is her outrage of MHJ laughing at a $exual abused victim? Where is her outrage of her fans going to Illit's social media and bullying them? They could've stopped it by speaking up and telling them to stop, but they didn't, so I don't feel sorry for them because someone said to ignore Hanni. THat is NOTHING compare to what Illit and other have gone through at the hands of the women they're protecting. Shame on anyone supporting that.
2. I am so sorry but it's kinda hard to support njs now bc all they do is whine yes at some moments they got mistreated but they created such a big issue out of nothing her being ignored isn't bullying it isn't work place harassment and honestly what does she expect when she is supporting a women like min who ruined careers of diffrent people and koreas Labour committee is a joke bc they didn't care when idols like loona were getting mistreated or when omega x were mistreated i cant believe they did nothing about that but when hanni gets "mistreated" they are suddenly taking action
3. No words just mhj on a regular day playing victim card but honestly no one will support her documentry except her fans bunnies
There was over 200 pages of evidence idiot. This not the only thing.
1) When I first saw Rose after a while I didn’t even recognize her because of her weight. I know she was always very thin but this looks more like anorexia and it’s not good, whatever fandom you are and even if you don’t like blackpink this is not for you to grab the opportunity and make fun of it, cause it’s a HEALTH ISSUE and blinks telling her “omg you look amazing, I want her body” you don’t really know the harm you are doing to her, you see her smiling and everything but you really don’t know what it’s happening in her head and when she is alone. Same goes for her blonde hair, girl it’s been years and she is still damaging her scalp. So like this we can deduct she is doing this for the public and not herself, you’ll think idols or artist don’t know what’s happening on social media but they know and they pressure themselves more everyday to appeal the public but even if they do it they will get criticized and it’s okay, you are a person and you don’t need to be perfect. She needs a psychologist.
Seeing her was shocking, i don’t listen to black pink often but seeing her as just a person im very worried for her, if anyone I cared about looked that small I would have an intervention with them and I hope she has people in her life giving her the help she needs. She doesn’t even have muscle anymore in her legs which is a hallmark of an eating disorder, god I hope she’s okay that is so scary
2. I been saying this all day.
This feels like a set up. The Korean government knows this is an easy case to blow up bad. This isn’t a case that will most likely win in hanni favor which gives them a chance to be like “We tried to do something” whenever questioned about putting effort in workplace bullying… This is crazy
3. I’m not even shocked but I wanna see what she got cus ATP she is a clown and she is giving us a free circus show. Even watching her press releases had me laughing so hard so I want this cus this is better than SNL 😭
The stans are even gonna be more funny cus ik they gonna eat it up and gonna sound so stupid
I feel like in Korea its always hybe vs politicians like we had the omega x case that really needed the government intervention even nct
taeil case but once its hybe it becomes a state of emergency the fact that they had to set up a panel/committee because hanni wasn't greeted properly is so....
Small insignificant company vs publicly traded conglomerate with economic power level consequences... The workplace is not grade school where the cool kids get to decide who deserves to be picked on and who doesn't. Taeil's case involves a living victim so, unfortunately for the always frothing Stan-O-sphere, the case is being handled with more delicacy than Suga's apparently victimless DUI case.
HYBE, or more likely, BSH brought this mess forth to be tried in the court of public opinion with the Stan-O-sphere (that they control) are judge, jury and executioner when the legal system didn't bend to his will. Don't need evidence or proof here just the common sense of the common faithful stan.
You got a good point
Korea have never had a track record of having a good government. I’m not even shocked anymore like they still have horrible bullying issues, the way they dealt with burning sun is ridiculous, how they deal with most mistreatment cases, etc
They been a mess
4: Absolutely! The idol training system is a total disaster masquerading as a talent powerhouse. They package it like it's all about nurturing stars, but in reality, it’s just a toxic cycle that churns out overworked and exploited individuals. The pressure to conform and perform is insane, and they’re treated more like products than people. Calling it a "training system" is just a convenient way to gloss over how fundamentally broken it is. Honestly, it’s time for a reality check; this isn’t about developing talent-it’s about profit and control. If things don’t change soon, we’re just going to keep seeing more burnout and heartache, while the industry pretends it’s all sunshine and rainbows.
What does hanni expect I wouldn’t talk to you either if a woman you and your group support is getting my group dragged and our managers based off unproven claims. It’s better to just not interact until the matter is resolved so I get why they didn’t speak, it’s unfortunate the manager had to tell them not to infront of her but hanni has to understand that it’s just better this way until things are resolved.
3. VICTIM card at it's peakkkk
MHJ is directly has bad intentions. She basically tried to throw shade to all the groups under hybe. Especially İllt. People say that NJ doesnt have fault and they are children then what about Illt. They could have been more understanding but they fed the hate train with this copying alligations not to mention K, Kazuha, Soobin even Bts.
So i hope they just let them go with that woman and let them do what they want. They are causing harm to their collegues as well.
Also it is sad that NJ getting manipulated by that woman and ended their career. That woman only thinks of herself. She is really toxic.
Oh! They can go, as long as they paid every songle penny and fine to Hybe and each brand that has suport them.
They loosed their "innocence" when they took a side in public. It that moment their silence against all the things their ex-CEO did and said became compliance, before that it was neutrality, after become them becoming aboard with all that.
Look how they tried to "defend" aespa but never the rest of Hybe. They are so down the rabbit hole they can not understand that affirmation made them the bullies by assosiation.
@@belaytriks Totally agree. They also dont understand the fact that Hybe was the one promoting them. Good producer is of course important but there is a lot good groups with good songs and good members but doesnt get famous because they dont have enough promotion like the big companies. They think they owe all the success to her while Hybe already have a ot of talented producers
Why do I feel like at some point fromis or katseye gonna be dragged in. Or another male group under hybe. Like watch her randomly mention &team and say that was her idea or smt dumb
@@AUGHHHHHBBG She is pretty delusional so it is possible that is why they need cut her ties with the company which is NJ. If the group was really important fer her she would accept their offer as producer she wouldnt insist on being a Ceo
@@AUGHHHHHBBGif she drags in fromis_9 I’m gonna crash out. However, Katseye gives me the vibe that they’ll talk their shit back 👀
3: Mhj's not digging a grave, it's a whole black hole with nwjns coming for it soon if they don't realize
1. The fact is we don't know why she lost weight, it could literally be so many things. I'm naturally slim but recently went below 100lbs because I developed a stomach issue and was unable to eat properly. So I'm not gonna judge cause we don't know why but being that slim is unhealthy and I hope whatever it is can be sorted out.
This first sentence thank you. I said the same thing
With MHJ & Hanni case tho if they got the support in the assembly & they got the nod that they were indeed was mistreated, we gonna see they will use that to break their contract.
Bcz I've been thinking it's so ridiculous, what can they possibly gain from appearing there since either way the trust is completely broken now, not only between MHJ & Hybe but between Hybe & Newjeans too, & the only way they can continue their career with MHJ & do whatever they want is if they're out of Hybe. When I reach that part it become clear for me. It probably part of the plan since the beginning. They were building a case, collect support & evidence. & what support & stronger evidence to back their claim that they were mistreated than getting the nod from the National Assembly?
Don't forget, MHJ was a part of SM ent. & SM is the only SK entertainment company that facing so many contract termination lawsuit from their former artist. MHJ probably already learn the ins & out of the contract & what will hold in court. While Hybe, they're a baby. They're so new in the industry they barely have any control over media let alone this is their 1st time facing contract & lawsuit battle like this.
Hybe need to cover all their bases. They make the mistake of hiring a snake. MHJ wouldn't survive in that ruthless industry & become 1 of big name in it if she never play the same game like those dirty male execs. Everyone who still can't see how dirty & manipulative she is is just plain blind & stupid.
Skinny = body shame
Overweight = body shame
Average = body shame
What do people really want? LOL
This is not skinny, this is all bones
1. The majority of idols are skin and bone. So I'm not shocked.
2. If it is true, Hanni just dug her own grave.
3. Not defending MHJ, but HYBE isn't that innocent either. Both are at fault.
I want to see MHJ documentary because there won't be any stan interference; it will be her story told in her voice as she sees it. HYBE and their stans controls all of the info about this case so I think her doing a documentary could be a good venue for her perspective to be aired without the stan narrative attached.
She already shared her perspective many times. It's all bs in the end bc she is always exposed, but yes, I do agree hybe isn't fully innocent either, but it's way better than min
@@kaylabunnie5283All we've heard is her side, her press conferences, her interviews, her speech at the Hyundai card. Hybe lawyers only respond to her statements with statements, so how do they control the information? You would have to search long and hard to find an article that sides with Hybe. Hybe created the monster that is MHJ they gave her all the power and now it's biting them in the ass. It's unfortunate that the groups that have nothing to do with it have to suffer too.
I’m not defending hybe bc they have screwed up with promotions and other stuff but y’all have done a list of what bad things hybe has done. I genuinely want to see a list of “awful things “ hybe has done in this case .
@@kaylabunnie5283 “hybe and their stands controls all of the info about this case” that’s a lie.
mhj is so self centered its honestly so concerning. like if you were this so called mother figure to nwjns why are you releasing a documenatary that no one will give a shit about
2. I do agree that the bullying that hanni had to faced must be investigated, but yeah, it's really not that serious to go to that comitee, worst cases have come to light in the kpop industry and yet are left in the dark 'cause, in my opinion, it didn't drag the amount of attention that NJs case is getting, it's screams privilege....
3. Showing us once again that it is about money, if she truly cared about the girls as she says, she would stop exposing everything so blatantly, all of that is just causing more harm to NJs and other idols (mostly Illit)
“ someone made those comments about somebody on the heavier side, they’d be crucified” I agree with your message that skinny shaming is bad but stop lying. That also just as bad and way too accepted. You yourself were talking about how the industry standards of being a skinny caused her to do this, do you think that fat people are accepted if the industry standards is so bad that somebody has to get that skinny. No, supporting a group of people that are being bullied(skinny people) doesn’t mean you have to casually invalidate another group of people that are going through the same situation.
How do you know she's doing it for beauty standards? Her weird loss could be for a completely different reason. Less stop making assumptions as to why.
On top of that, I wonder why korean and international fans such opposite takes on mhj because if you go any recent performance (super shy etc.) all the top comments are knetz supporting mhj, are we missing something or are they missing something?
++ i agree that mhj releasing a track(?) and all of that merch shit for "ador" is insane to me like...she's not even a member of nwjns. why does so much nwjns merch have just the company name on it as if it's mhj merch
People forget that when your body doesn’t get enough nutrients it starts to eat itself.. Rosè’s case is just another proof that the industry doesn’t care about your health as long as you’re popular and pretty. I hope she gets a long rest and recovers.
And her fans are hyping her up in the comment.. it's okay to be naturally slim but to be already be very thin and still continue to lose weight ..she might not be doing it on purpose but it's def not normal
Not to be that person, but how do we know that the greeting incident is the only unfair treatment she's received? She never said it's the first and only time in the livestream just it's the one she chose to share. There is a chance bigger and more serious things have happened behind the scenes, and she just chose not to bring it up.
I thought that too but then she went to the National Assembly which was likely her only (and safest) chance to bring up any other incidents if they were that bad
I hope rosé isn’t hurting herself to be perfect for her 1st full album. As long as she’s ok I never judge an idol of their body. Highlight on the “their body” part
2: I don't think hanni will talk about actual bullying issues rather than a few managers ignoring them. The whole south korean media is a mess..
Newjeans and their mother have got to pick a side either they are the Bad guy or the victims
They can't have it both ways
These people can only tell you what they are living with and experiencing; whether they are victims or bad guy is a stan narrative to decide.
I am not a blink but I am so concerned for Rose's health
I hope that she's not seeing those hate comments about her
2. No, not saying "hi" isn't workplace harrassment but their manager telling them to "ignore newjeans" in front of newjeans is literally outcasting newjeans! You know that isn't the environment idols have inside their buildings! Of course, a lot of people don't relate but this was literally outcasting newjeans and you would know if you were ever bullied in school because this is literally how bullying begins!
"millionare idols" are the same idols who are underage and exploited to death. just because they're public figures, their mental health doesn't matter? And of course, the government is paying more attention to this because *it's a public issue.* They're *setting an example.* Also, you're right, groups like OmegaX deserve a platform but this is the same as arguing who faces more racism, who doesn't? Just because their issue seems trivial to you doesn't mean it might be. Who knows what evidence will pop up (mhj brainwashing them) when the investigation begins!
They were literal kids when they met mhj! You don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes! Also, all of you are acting as if hybe didn't decide to put them on a one-year-hiatus when they decided mhj wouldn't be the ceo anymore. Do you need any more proof that hybe doesn't care about them? If anything, they're protecting their careers and dreams that was built on their exploitation and manipulation but for what? getting side-lined? *being called "are kids but subject to adult's fantasies" by illit's creative managers?*
I can't believe you all are hating on/blaming on people who were literally brainwashed as kids, were exploited, sexualized to hell, worked hard in their careers, was threatened to be put on a hiatus in the peak of their career, were side-lined again and again by their god-forsaken company instead of hybe who hires *creative directors that post nsfw pics of bound women for lsf* (eunchae is a minor) or illit's creative directors who called *nwjns "adults fantasies"*
Yes, mhj was in the wrong while coming after illit for plagiarism issues but she never disrespected the kids. Yes, mhj is the pest here but the girls are just as innocent as lsf or illit. they've been clearly brainwashed yet people hate on them for something that have taught to believe since they were what? 13-14! on top of that, nwjns parents aren't helping either! they have bad adults around them anywhere. how come everybody else being minor matters to all of you but hyein being youngest one here doesn't?
if you have the time to go hate on nwjns, why don't you go hate on band pd for overworking enha and txt and sexualizing eunchae to hell and back and hiring managers that outcast a particular group or hanging out with sex workers when minors work (/are forced to twerk) under him?
blah blah blah they are not bullying NJ because this requires actions that are repeated over time and it was only possible to indicate that they were not greeted on one occasion and that is not bullying, not even close. Do not try to make victims of those who until now have supported MHJ who did damage the image of other groups, undermining minors in their path.
I don’t understand how rosie was always slim ? As everyone is saying, she’s clearly looking very thic , She never was skinny infact she is the foodie of the group if you see her in her beginning mvs of blackpink , she’s unrecognisable!!
Nothing about rosé gives off the impression that she has mental health issues and definitely not a drug problem. She’s skinny. And she’s working in preparation for her new album roll out. She dropped a lot of weight when her solo came out, she dropped a lot of weight again when they were doing pink venom and shut down press and once again she’s dropped a lot of weight now. I don’t think it’s intentional at all. Yall keep running with this bs anorexia narrative as if you’re all concerned for her but you’re actually not. So many naturally skinny people get dragged to filth bc they’re too skinny and can’t keep any weight on. Yall scream body positivity from the high heavens but god forbid a naturally skinny person be freaking skinny 🙄🙄🙄 and until rosé shows any actual signs of “needing help” then I’ll take her health seriously. But stop projecting your insecurities onto her. It’s disgusting. Maybe actually worry about the idols that blatantly telling you they need help like bam bam 🤔🤔🤔
I genuinely hope Rosè can get proper help for whatever she is dealing with, I love her as an K-pop idol cause she always seems so kind and hilarious, plus she's my bias in BlackPink even though I'm not blink. I wish her the absolute best mentally, emotionally, and physically.
Timestamps:
0:01 1. Can we stop calling ROSE an addict and body-shaming her for being skinny?
2:37 2. Let's talk about NewJeans' Hanni.
4:29 3. Can you believe MHJ is planning to release a documentary?
6:18 4. The idol training system is a dumpster fire masquerading as a talent factory.
8:29 5. Let's review YENA's comeback "NEMONEMO".
Boycott newjeans. I was their fan, but these girls just don't want to get saved and ready to go hell with MHJ
right ?
i dont get the need to worry about someone who doesnr even know u exist, idols are responsible for themselves and themselves only. if they are having problem or doing whatever it is theyre doing that isnt beneficial for them then i wish we would stop needing to be concerned for every other idols health and wellbeing. it is tiring because they should know better to look after themselves better regardless of what it is they are doing and yes drugs are used in entertainment nothing new there then
I wish this support was also extended to hyunsuk treasure when he lost weight because netizens were mocking him.Glad he is back and healthy again.
yena is seriously a saving grace this year, nemonemo might not win a soty, sure. but from all the repetitve comebacks we have ahd recently im VERY please she released it, it might not be her best work and thats okay, but its high quality music. i hope she releases more of that
Worried about Rose 🌹 🙏
You don't need to thumbnail like this. because this type of thumbnail make misunderstand
1. Its alarming how skinny rosie has gotten, the beauty standards are toxic. netizens jump at the opportunity to body-shame someone who's fat or skinny, there's really no way of winning when you're getting hate left and right, being fat as an idol means you aren't dedicated to wards your career, and being skinny means you're promoting an unhealthy body image?? what do they want from idols? to be flawless like robots? and its disgusting that people just jump to thinking that she's addicted, please, there's so many other factors that could lead to this. and idols are under the constant pressure of being skinny, not overly skinny, not fat, which just makes it worse. this is genuinely concerning.
1. the problem is that none of the fans would care if she was fat or ugly. if she was not an idol + not pretty + not skinny. she would be looked down upon. And its funny we say this to a celebrity but if it's someone from just a normal life, you all dont care. this is preformative on both ends.
I ride with your opinions because I think they are cohesive, constructive and not hateful or personal towards the idols.
A documentary 😂😂😂
Rosè studio album December 6th
MHJ: If I can't have them, no one will
Smh
1:24 100% days ago natty got praised for her body positivity but rosé it’s ridiculous
Girl you better change that thumbnail it's so disrespectful...
ok but the video ate
What do you expect from TH-cam's number one toxic coward ..I mean chick . Chick chick ..wrong c-word
@@RidleyVnothing groundbreaking really.
ngl , im so over Mhj and new jeans. Mhj has brainwashed new jeans into developing a mother-daught relationship with her. Newjeans claim that hybe is neglecting them and trying to sabotage them, when the truth is thatMhj is holding them back cause she doesn't want them to be associated with Hybe. Mhj wants to claim New jeans as hers but with Hybes money. The girls scream mistreatment when fhere NO proof of it. They need to realise that there are groups out there that actually get mistreated . I get that hybe is super shady but if they continue to side with Mhj ( who has literally trashed them ) its only going to damage their image
I want ur reaction on rosé's album announcment btw there are 12 tracks
Yea rosé has always been skinny but this is too much. Maybe she's on ozempic on top of her being skinny or she's suffering from an ED like Anorexia and the attention she gets from it just adds fuel to it
MHJ is a narcissist who will never admit she ever did anything wrong. She plays into the victim role instead. She started all these because of the audit, and she twisted the story to make herself a victim and a heroine.
So we cant hate on certain idols or cristizie unprofessionalism in a company but we can sure hate on a 19 year old who cares she doesnt have feelings 😂
Rosé has always been thin but before you could see her muscles and whatnot regardless, now her muscles seem to have gone away and no one should hate on her or be rude but we should all be genuinely concerned for her, I hope she has people in her life that are helping her with any issues she has
When I saw the pictures of her, I was immediately saddened, I don’t follow Rosie or blackpink much but how could you see someone in that state and not feel empathy, please don’t belittle her, but don’t ignore how unhealthy her size is right now, god I want to cry as someone with an eating disorder that’s so sad to see I’m going to follow her now and hopefully she begins recovery soon ❤️❤️love and support for her
Amazing information
I do worry about Rosé 🩷😭🤧
Awesome Awesome
How do y’all know the bullying is only about the greeting situation? Y’all don’t even know what is happening behind it all and make fun of potential victims? It’s a known fact how unbalanced the working environment is but as soon as it’s pointed out, y’all demean it and turn it into jokes. Pathetic, really. None of us knows about the hardships these idols go through and given the clean image they have to maintain, we’ll never ever find out. Or does it have to have tragic consequences for you to finally take these things seriously??
I'm not a blink. I mean yeah. Rose' looks a bit unhealthily skinny. But we don't know what she's going through and she disclosed it before that she has hard time gaining weight. So, feeling concerned for her is one thing and shaming her for it is another. And people who are taking advantage of this situation are just disgusting.
2. Y'all can leaveeeee 💗
1. I love how pretty Rosé looks with darker hair.
2. I learned that Korea is facing the loose of 23 workers by negligence in the worplace and the heads of such bussiness did not confronted the justice properly and the case with the first lady still is going.
I really want NJ going to court but in order to have an outsider adult bring them to reality and told them they are the bullies here.
3. The documentary would be interesting, if they dare to difame Hybe there could be new problems comming her way.
4. About the trainning system, I think is time we return to a slower society and a slower work culture. Even IAs are already starting to rebel against the explotaition people now call "production". It happened in Japan, the IA was asked to do to much things in order to "increase its productivity" and what it do was to change the date to deliver its work. I think that said a lot about the society in wivh we live and the standars the bussiness want to imposse to people.
ceo Drama hanni😂😂
I dont think the dr-g addict accusations are swirling just because she's thin though. She was caught doing dr-gs...
She wasn’t caught doing drugs. That was a rumor that was debunked by not only her fans but the people she was hanging out with. But hey, believe what you want 🙄
#1: Rose knows what she looks like (the look is classic heroin chic styling from the 90's) and I am sure she also knew how the general Stan-O-sphere would react. Idols bank on the negative reactions to galvanize their handmaids and swains into protective, buzzy actions before they drop their comeback album/tour dates. All of it is purposely done and she got the response she wanted. Don't hate the player; hate the game.
Rose definitely using drugs 😂
How do u know lil bro?
You've clearly never seen what happens after drug use. You're a kid, sit down and don't insert your vapid opinions where they really don't belong.
Topic no.4
*_Overtraining_* (Sorry for the long comment)
Idk man...🤔 SM's 2nd gen especially TVXQ, SJ & SHInee and BigHit's initial days with BTS's training... um... They didn't even have proper food to eat, nor a room heater in their dorms!
As an SM stan I can tell you that SJ somedays went without eating!!! SM didn't have enough money to feed them or give them stipends.
Except Siwon everyone else comes from very low middle class families.
Leeteuk would buy 2 burgers and all 10 of them would share that!!!
Yes, 10. Teuk and Heechul would just have an apple.
On cold Seoul nights, they would all cuddle up to Shindong to stay warm.
The rigorous training schedule, by the way, stayed the same!!! Hours and hours of dance, Japanese & English classes, gym, vocal lessons and a fruit juice for lunch. They struggled together. They were all teenagers.
And they're about to have their 20th anniversary next year!!🎉
SHINee's Jonghyun would go into a sound proof studio and practice his vocals all night with a keyboard!! BoA and some SNSD members are a witness to his "overtraining".
Onew chose the terrace to do his own vocal practice.
Taemin being a minor was allowed to sleep, while Minho would spend those 3-4hrs of "rest at night" memorising rap lyrics.
I'm sure we all remember how thin the SNSD members were post debut. It wasn't beauty standards. SM was just growing, so Lee Sooman literally couldn't feed them 3 meals a day!!!!
How did these groups perform and turn out since debut? LEGENDARY!!!!!
And the heartfelt part is, Lee Sooman didnt live in a condo at that time.
He lived in the music studio and ate 2 packs of ramyun a day. I have heard that Bang PD would do the same too, while training BTS.
Imagine 7 growing boys sharing 2-3 cups of ramyun along with their CEO, once a day.
All this to say... no one can reach success without struggle and hard work. Keep your medical and psychological knowledge to yourself. Becoming an artist is not for everyone.
Your goal has to be the bird's eye and nothing else should matter!!
Yes you have to rehearse on empty stomach!
Yes you have to use your resting time to sit with your work!!
It's a penance!
All these mentioned groups are now gonna go down in Kpop history!
Will Lsf?
Nwjns? Illit?
These kids get so tired after a mubank performance! They can't hold their stability more than 30mins on stage!!!! Cuz... No stamina!!!!
While U-Know sings live while doing cartwheels.
I'm not saying anything. Receipts talk.
Facts talk.
So don't go coddling your precious little 10yr olds with... vocal artists say this and doctors say that!
Sorry, but these kids will never become artists. They will never be Taeyeon, Jonghyun, Chen, Kyuhyun or Changmin. They're thriving off of controversies, and they'll be forgotten when the controversy ends.
It is true. But it is time to stop glorifing the abuse and precarity that society is pushing in people in order to success. I am happy new idols of some agencies has better living conditions and sad older idols have to go trought such lenghts but above all, I am sad that people, real people had to suffer in order to reach their dreams.
Yes, we have to put effort, yes, it might be hard and uncomfortable but not one should have to put their lives and health at risk in order to succeed.
SO, YOU THINK HUMANS NEED TO LIVE IN BAD CONDITIONS TO GET SUCCESS?
Yesterday marks the 10 years since she’s been kicked from SNSD😞🥺. But I’m glad she’s thriving today