The fact that you truthfully admit you didnt know some stuff there the more I respected you.Its very hard to find people like you these days. Thank you so much for this very informative video.
@@rgmtb Do you see any problem with using a Shimano 11 speed chain on a Shimano 12 speed chain RING? Inner plate dimension is the same, as far as I know, but someone mentioned the Shimano 12 speed chainring has special grooves that may cause the 11 speed to fall off. Any idea about this? I have an 11 speed drivetrain, but want to use a 12 speed crankset/chainring on it (switching square taper on 11 speed to a hollowtech ii).
I watched 4 videos to find out why my chain was slipping they all told me to check for wear. Not one told me I had the wrong chain! This video taught me soo much. Excellent stuff guys. 😊
This was super helpful. I was searching all over the internet to find out about front chainring/cassette/chain compatibility and even emailing some manufacturers but like you said at the beginning, some things they won’t tell you. But this answered my question perfectly. Thanks!!
I think you got 1/2 and 1/8 inch mixed there. The og 1/2 x 1/8" chain is 1/8" wide and the link length is 1/2". You can see it with the naked eye which is longer. But otherwise great stuff!! :)
Coming from bmx, I've seen tons of guys have half link chains on upside down and it feels and sounds horrible until I flip them over and its smooth and quiet
A little confusion there on what is 1/8th inch. The center-to-center pin distance (chain pitch) is 1/2 inch (12.7mm) for all standard (non-Campagnolo) bicycle chains and I think the inner width starts out at 3/32 inch for 6/7/8 speed. Otherwise good comparison of chains. Annoyingly Shimano quick-links are rated as single-use items.
I have a Park CC-4 chain measure tool. I"ll call it stretch, because the tool will either fall through or not, indicating stretch. Assuming this is correct, what I believe you're saying is that the distance from link to link is the same for a 10 speed vs. 11 speed. Therefore, the tool is good for both. I hope I am correct as I maintain my 10 speed and wife 11 speed bikes.
I did not know about the directionality (I don't think), but I did know about the shape of the links and how they were engineered to do better with shifting. I only learned about this in the last couple of years. This is exceptional information to know, though! I am the head coach for a small NICA team out here in Florida and this is helpful for team bike maintenance. Thanks for the video! Stay upright and keep the rubber side down. -Brian
I'm so glad this video helped! Jason does a wonderful job explaining bike tech and really hit it out of the park with this one! Keep an eye on the channel because I have a bike review coming up on a HT that a lot of the NICA coaches liked when I showed it to them :-)
G-R-E-A-T VIDEO!!! I've definitely learned a lot! All I knew is that chains are different for different cassettes, but I never knew that there are so much nuances and tiny details that should be taken care of!
HAHAHAHA! So you've been around the block a few times and done the dirty work. It's not easy to keep up with all this stuff and things change too often!
Great info! One thing that I think you missed was explaining why you're only supposed to used a quick link once. I know most manufactures say that once you take the chain apart you're supposed to get a new quick link. I've never really followed this rule, that's why I'd like it explained better.
Just replace the link when you replace the chain. I have removed the chain many times to service my derailleur and deep-clean the chain. The links are going to wear the same as the roller bearings on the riveted section of the chain. The link is less strong because it is not riveted, but still has plenty of strength to work until the end of the chains life.
Just for information, They do make 3/32 single speed freewheels for BMX(White Industries & Profile)and most BMX sprockets/chainrings can use a 3/32 chain. Cheers
Boy, did I need to know this. Thank you so much. Appreciated the mention of stronger ebike chains. Could have mentioned ebike cassettes along with that. You want a full steel cassette with strong ebike motors.
Great video. Yes, I knew that the chains have direction. I learned from error, my system is 1 x 12 Sram and knowing that it had direction I turned it upside down. I had to do it again and put it well. In the sram chains the quick link has a directional arrow indicating the direction to which it should turn, "forward".
Great vid, not seen a vid explaining all of this before. Great you made a video explaining all of this. good to have it all in one video. I knew all of this, but I don't remember where I got all of my knowledge anymore.
In my experience as a Melbourne bicycle courier over 4 winters 3 summers where trams drop sand on brakes you get sand on your drivetrain you don't want an "entry level" drivetrain you want Shimano XT and lube at the end of every wet day using a Ritchey kerosene bath chain cleaner on the weekend, you don't want to customize too much stick to factory equipment as say Shimano have the best patents.
I heard some people prefer a 9speed chain on a 10speed cassette for the thicker links giving more strength. Is there any drawbacks for overall durability ?
A couple corrections to be made at the beginning of the video. Actually he got the dimensions and terms mixed up. I guess maybe he was nervous or just reading from a script? The distance center to center of the barrels is about 1/2" not the distance between the barrels. Also the distance between the plates is 1/8"-3/32". Also he refers to the "micrometer"...it isnt a micrometer. It is a digital caliper. Small points. But, people watching this video will repeat whats said and that would be bad. Good video though. Thank you for doing this.
thanks for that info. like Dean said in the video, a lot of info I didn't know. i noticed the difference, generally. but, i never took the time to put it all together.
I just change my chain on my Trek Marlin 6 and when I searched for help I discovered that Shimano chains only go on one way. So I had to look up what my drive train was.-
I didn't know they were directional, I also didn't know i need a new chain until I spent a half hour trying to find out my mw new drive trine didn't work with the chain I had... I have some shopping to do..
I figured out I was old when I was browsing Amazon for a new chain for my 9 speed downhill bike. Found all these cool KMC DLC chains but only in 10 speed. No cool coatings or anything special for 9 speed. Only found the chain, I’m already using
It's written in the Shimano papers that it's directional. First pic, very big, can't miss it ....... One of the first things I learned as a home mechanic.
I honestly can say that I didn't know that about the chains. I know that SRAM chains need to be aligned with the cassette or they don't fit on the teeth well but had no idea about the Shimano directional chains. I enjoyed making this video and learned a lot!
I knew that chains were directional tbh I build my own bikes so that was how I knew, some has arrows and also the master link may themselves may have arrows them.
Bought a used fixie.. single speed. Did a whole bunch of Frankenstein work on like four bikes. Swap this, swap that. Turns out they used single speed chain on a mountain bike crank and I'm pretty sure the single sprocket on the rear is 3/32. So.. my mountain bike is now a single speed using the fixie crank and a coaster brake hub (unbraked). The 3/32 chain fits the cruiser hub perfect with reasonable play, but they used a single speed on that too. Now that I beat my head on several bikes, and watching this video twice in the last couple of months, I have determined that manufacturers throw stuff together. And I'm back on ebay reordering a 3/32 half link instead of a single half link because I forgot all the progression of my mayhem. All my components will match if I have to march to the end of the world to get it right, but WOW** really? Does it have to be this way? 😆
Great Video - so informative and well presented. Chain snapped on me yesterday and didn’t have any links with me ......6 km walk over the hills in the dark. Will be prepared next time, and will get a matching brand chain to my driver train.
I was a pro building commercial bikes in the 1960s now I am trying to build a bike foir grandson and me I have 7 speed Shimano on my trike and I need a new strong chain and he is a Kid with a 20" Down hill. Spanish shops want to sell me a bike but I have to tell them what chain I need. I have no idea. we only had 2 chains when I was building commercial bikes now its crazy! This is all new to me after 50 years !! Well I have a 7 speed, Are they all 7s the same? What chain can I ask for please? UK was a lot easier!
That got me also, had to google it: bicycle chain pitch is exactly 1/2 inch (12.7 mm). This goes for all the bicycle chains, regardless of the speed number.
Great video!...I've been wondering why my (barely used) 9 SPEED 2005 Giant Rainier Mt. Bike keeps ghost jumping speeds.Come to find out it came with an 8 Speed (3/32) chain from the factory.What up with that?...One correction though (and maybe I'm wrong), I think you misspoke in the beginning when you said the standard pitch is 1/8 when it's 1/2.Just for clarification.
If the inside width is identical for 10/11/12 speed Shimano (they call it HG-X), then wouldn't it theoretically work to use a HG-X10 speed 2x/3x crankset with a HG-X11 speed chain? Shimano of course does not say in their compatibility documents that these are compatible, and maybe shifting in the front will not be as smooth, but it should work, right?
@@1911Zoey Done 16 miles but that is hard going and lots of heavy mud as I came back and spent 3 hour washing everything. Yesterday I put on a new derailleur GX 11 speed as my 12 speed is very tired and the 11 speed GX was the same, and the cable for my seat post snapped so changed that, and 4 new bearings on the rear axle and a big difference. The chains I use are Sram PC-1110 as there cheap and use 4 and rotate.
Too your orginal question I run 4 chains too one complete cassette shimano SLX M7000 11/46 and the chains are 114 links and still gives slack at 180mm rear travel and have never broke a chain. Don't use Sram cassettes ae they wear faster.
I'm watching this because I got my bike converted to ebike. And I'm thinking of mix matching the gear-set like putting 9 speed RD (can cover 50t cassette) into 8 speed cassette (11-46T) while using 8speed chain because I think the thicker the chain the better. I'm just looking for someone who already did this 😅
I'd say I was safe with all 18 speed bikes, until some nutter gave me a bike with a 6 speed index shift that he'd installed a 5 speed rear wheel onto. Then he couldn't understand why top gear came off the cassette... Switching to friction shifters but at least I don't have any fuss about mis-matched chains. The video certainly has a lot of useful info though All bikes Shimano running gear - one less headache
@@paul340mopar That got me too, I don't know shit about bike chains and that's why I'm watching but, I do know the difference between 1/8" and 1/2" Duh, had to google chain bike chain pitch to get the correct info: bicycle chain pitch is exactly 1/2 inch (12.7 mm). This goes for all the bicycle chains, regardless of the speed number.
So what you’re saying is that if I file down the chain rings on my 21 speed, then I can put a 12 speed cassette on my rear wheel and have a 24÷52 gear ratio?
I really wish things could be simplified like they used to be. Do you think they purposely make them difficult to give bike shops more business or is it because nothing is regulated (like automobiles) so they have free range to design anything or are they just worrying about weight and strength?
Pitch is 1/2 inch,I don't know how much he understands cause he also said"11/128 thousandths of an inch".Must have no basic mechanical training in measurement.
@@simonyardley3126 2:33 I think Jason simply mixed them up. 3:16 Jason obviously meant that the width was reduced by 11/128 or about 0.2 mm, the calipers clearly didn't indicate the with of a chain. From people that know him, he's a fantastic mechanic and a very nice guy. And where do you get a "mechanical training in measurement" anyway?
I'm a little hesitant to recommend that. NX is 10 speed and you are looking to put a 12 speed (tighter spacing) chain on it. Look, you can "make" a lot of things work but you need to ask yourself if it's really a good idea.
The fact that you truthfully admit you didnt know some stuff there the more I respected you.Its very hard to find people like you these days. Thank you so much for this very informative video.
Thanks so much!
@@rgmtb Do you see any problem with using a Shimano 11 speed chain on a Shimano 12 speed chain RING? Inner plate dimension is the same, as far as I know, but someone mentioned the Shimano 12 speed chainring has special grooves that may cause the 11 speed to fall off. Any idea about this? I have an 11 speed drivetrain, but want to use a 12 speed crankset/chainring on it (switching square taper on 11 speed to a hollowtech ii).
I watched 4 videos to find out why my chain was slipping they all told me to check for wear. Not one told me I had the wrong chain!
This video taught me soo much. Excellent stuff guys. 😊
I just learned that my mtb is a 9 speed although it has 27 speed ratio(9x3: 3 chain rings and 9 on the rear hub’s cassette).
Great video. Thank you 👍
This was super helpful. I was searching all over the internet to find out about front chainring/cassette/chain compatibility and even emailing some manufacturers but like you said at the beginning, some things they won’t tell you. But this answered my question perfectly. Thanks!!
This video deserves more views...
I think you got 1/2 and 1/8 inch mixed there. The og 1/2 x 1/8" chain is 1/8" wide and the link length is 1/2". You can see it with the naked eye which is longer. But otherwise great stuff!! :)
yep. hurts my brain.
I didn’t know chains were directional, only multi-links, that’s why I only run SRAM. More of these videos Gene.
Same here.
Sram is not directional right?
Coming from bmx, I've seen tons of guys have half link chains on upside down and it feels and sounds horrible until I flip them over and its smooth and quiet
A little confusion there on what is 1/8th inch. The center-to-center pin distance (chain pitch) is 1/2 inch (12.7mm) for all standard (non-Campagnolo) bicycle chains and I think the inner width starts out at 3/32 inch for 6/7/8 speed. Otherwise good comparison of chains. Annoyingly Shimano quick-links are rated as single-use items.
I've been riding for for many many years and I never new this basic info. Thanks a lot boys.
This deserves way more views and likes. Awesome content. Thanks guys.
One of the most helpful videos I’ve seen in a long time and I’ve been riding bikes for a long time! Thanks!
Great video. Everyone who rides needs to see this
I never knew that chains are directional as well 😱, thanks a lot guys for this piece of education really awesome.
Great video, very informative. Directional chains??? Had no idea. Keep up the good work Gene and Jason 👍
Great video, Gene. Lots of useful information and great presentation, as always.
Keep up the great work, man. You rock!
“From 9-12 chain the inner width of the chain is the same”, thanks for the info!
You missed the outside width....
Do not f'up your cassette.
Excellent video! Loved the information and presentation
I have a Park CC-4 chain measure tool. I"ll call it stretch, because the tool will either fall through or not, indicating stretch. Assuming this is correct, what I believe you're saying is that the distance from link to link is the same for a 10 speed vs. 11 speed. Therefore, the tool is good for both. I hope I am correct as I maintain my 10 speed and wife 11 speed bikes.
Thank you for great video!
I finally understand. Thanks a lot. It was the most informative video on chains I could find
I did not know about the directionality (I don't think), but I did know about the shape of the links and how they were engineered to do better with shifting. I only learned about this in the last couple of years.
This is exceptional information to know, though! I am the head coach for a small NICA team out here in Florida and this is helpful for team bike maintenance. Thanks for the video!
Stay upright and keep the rubber side down.
-Brian
I'm so glad this video helped! Jason does a wonderful job explaining bike tech and really hit it out of the park with this one! Keep an eye on the channel because I have a bike review coming up on a HT that a lot of the NICA coaches liked when I showed it to them :-)
G-R-E-A-T VIDEO!!! I've definitely learned a lot! All I knew is that chains are different for different cassettes, but I never knew that there are so much nuances and tiny details that should be taken care of!
As returned back cyclist fromm 9 speed this was informative thanks
Great video, much easier than how I figured it all out putting mountain bike cranks on bmx bikes in 1985 and putting single gear on ten speeds
HAHAHAHA! So you've been around the block a few times and done the dirty work. It's not easy to keep up with all this stuff and things change too often!
I put a 12 speed chain on a 11 speed transmission of my friend's bike LOL works perfectly fine, 0 problems
Great info! One thing that I think you missed was explaining why you're only supposed to used a quick link once. I know most manufactures say that once you take the chain apart you're supposed to get a new quick link. I've never really followed this rule, that's why I'd like it explained better.
Just replace the link when you replace the chain. I have removed the chain many times to service my derailleur and deep-clean the chain. The links are going to wear the same as the roller bearings on the riveted section of the chain. The link is less strong because it is not riveted, but still has plenty of strength to work until the end of the chains life.
Just for information, They do make 3/32 single speed freewheels for BMX(White Industries & Profile)and most BMX sprockets/chainrings can use a 3/32 chain. Cheers
I feel all the wiser for the time invested. Thanks !
Thanks for teaching me so much I didn't know about bicycle chains
this the bike tech on youtube that I've learned the most. Tks
Boy, did I need to know this. Thank you so much. Appreciated the mention of stronger ebike chains. Could have mentioned ebike cassettes along with that. You want a full steel cassette with strong ebike motors.
Ebike chains are not stronger. It it's just commercial thing
@@igorioko I was not clear. I was speaking of a 9 speed chain being thicker and stronger than an 11 or 12 speed chain.
I was thinking the same, until i got experience and this: zerofrictioncycling.com.au/chaintesting/
Great video. Yes, I knew that the chains have direction. I learned from error, my system is 1 x 12 Sram and knowing that it had direction I turned it upside down. I had to do it again and put it well. In the sram chains the quick link has a directional arrow indicating the direction to which it should turn, "forward".
What chain lenght is needed for a 1x12?
Great vid, not seen a vid explaining all of this before. Great you made a video explaining all of this. good to have it all in one video.
I knew all of this, but I don't remember where I got all of my knowledge anymore.
In my experience as a Melbourne bicycle courier over 4 winters 3 summers where trams drop sand on brakes you get sand on your drivetrain you don't want an "entry level" drivetrain you want Shimano XT and lube at the end of every wet day using a Ritchey kerosene bath chain cleaner on the weekend, you don't want to customize too much stick to factory equipment as say Shimano have the best patents.
This video upload is an enlightenment. Didn't know much about chain until it gave me problem. Thanking you.
I didn't know the chain was directional. Wow I learned so much thanks 👍👍👍
I heard some people prefer a 9speed chain on a 10speed cassette for the thicker links giving more strength. Is there any drawbacks for overall durability ?
the chain pitch is always 1/2", not 1/8"
A couple corrections to be made at the beginning of the video. Actually he got the dimensions and terms mixed up. I guess maybe he was nervous or just reading from a script? The distance center to center of the barrels is about 1/2" not the distance between the barrels. Also the distance between the plates is 1/8"-3/32". Also he refers to the "micrometer"...it isnt a micrometer. It is a digital caliper. Small points. But, people watching this video will repeat whats said and that would be bad. Good video though. Thank you for doing this.
Very very helpful! Thank you nice job.
thanks for that info. like Dean said in the video, a lot of info I didn't know. i noticed the difference, generally. but, i never took the time to put it all together.
Well explain how to pick a chain and characteristics of each chain brand. Thank you for sharing. 👍👍🚵🏻♂️🚵🏻♂️
Thanks for watching!
I just change my chain on my Trek Marlin 6 and when I searched for help I discovered that Shimano chains only go on one way. So I had to look up what my drive train was.-
I didn't know they were directional, I also didn't know i need a new chain until I spent a half hour trying to find out my mw new drive trine didn't work with the chain I had... I have some shopping to do..
Helpful vid! Thanks! Hey, can I run a KMC chain on a Shimano group?
I figured out I was old when I was browsing Amazon for a new chain for my 9 speed downhill bike. Found all these cool KMC DLC chains but only in 10 speed. No cool coatings or anything special for 9 speed. Only found the chain, I’m already using
It's written in the Shimano papers that it's directional. First pic, very big, can't miss it ....... One of the first things I learned as a home mechanic.
The tool with three prongs looks cool. Yeah, I knew about Shimano chains.
I honestly can say that I didn't know that about the chains. I know that SRAM chains need to be aligned with the cassette or they don't fit on the teeth well but had no idea about the Shimano directional chains. I enjoyed making this video and learned a lot!
The chain always goes on the gears of bike , never as a necklace
i learned a few things today from this video.... chain direction of course...the other one >> "yesterYEAR".
Thank you guys. Great video. Very useful and educational. Have a great day
When in doubt, advertise. Will keep that in mind.
Me too, but would it kill them to put an arrow on there? They do it with tires.
I knew that chains were directional tbh I build my own bikes so that was how I knew, some has arrows and also the master link may themselves may have arrows them.
i'm a bike mechanik and i see all the time shimano chains installed wrong but in a pinch it works but the cassett gets damage in a long term use.
I had no idea. Great in-depth video!
Sorry... But the barrel to barrel distance is NOT 1/8th inch... It's more like 1/2...
I did not know that chains was directional. Thanks for the knowledge.
Bought a used fixie.. single speed. Did a whole bunch of Frankenstein work on like four bikes. Swap this, swap that. Turns out they used single speed chain on a mountain bike crank and I'm pretty sure the single sprocket on the rear is 3/32.
So.. my mountain bike is now a single speed using the fixie crank and a coaster brake hub (unbraked). The 3/32 chain fits the cruiser hub perfect with reasonable play, but they used a single speed on that too.
Now that I beat my head on several bikes, and watching this video twice in the last couple of months, I have determined that manufacturers throw stuff together.
And I'm back on ebay reordering a 3/32 half link instead of a single half link because I forgot all the progression of my mayhem. All my components will match if I have to march to the end of the world to get it right, but WOW** really? Does it have to be this way? 😆
Great Video - so informative and well presented. Chain snapped on me yesterday and didn’t have any links with me ......6 km walk over the hills in the dark. Will be prepared next time, and will get a matching brand chain to my driver train.
That sucks man! Well I'm glad this video helped you and now you can put together a small kit to keep in your bag just incase.
I was a pro building commercial bikes in the 1960s now I am trying to build a bike foir grandson and me I have 7 speed Shimano on my trike and I need a new strong chain and he is a Kid with a 20" Down hill. Spanish shops want to sell me a bike but I have to tell them what chain I need. I have no idea. we only had 2 chains when I was building commercial bikes now its crazy! This is all new to me after 50 years !!
Well I have a 7 speed, Are they all 7s the same? What chain can I ask for please? UK was a lot easier!
On the direction of Shimano chains.. yes I knew they were directional because it tells you this in Shimanos fitting instructions!
At 1:00, the pitch of a chain is 1/2", not 1/8"! You musta been nervous, ha ha!
That got me also, had to google it: bicycle chain pitch is exactly 1/2 inch (12.7 mm). This goes for all the bicycle chains, regardless of the speed number.
3:58 and here I am running a sramano drivetrain and my Maguras are bled with baby oil
I didn’t know chains were directional either I’ve only been mountain biking for a couple months though, great tip!
Never knew. Both of my chains are in backwards
thanks my question answered
chain 6-7-8
Great video!...I've been wondering why my (barely used) 9 SPEED 2005 Giant Rainier Mt. Bike keeps ghost jumping speeds.Come to find out it came with an 8 Speed (3/32) chain from the factory.What up with that?...One correction though (and maybe I'm wrong), I think you misspoke in the beginning when you said the standard pitch is 1/8 when it's 1/2.Just for clarification.
If the inside width is identical for 10/11/12 speed Shimano (they call it HG-X), then wouldn't it theoretically work to use a HG-X10 speed 2x/3x crankset with a HG-X11 speed chain?
Shimano of course does not say in their compatibility documents that these are compatible, and maybe shifting in the front will not be as smooth, but it should work, right?
Thank you so much for this informative video. Happy riding
Didn't know that direction thing, inner or outer. Good video. Thanks.
I run 4 chains and change every ride, as I boil them in putoline grease like motocross they last for ages but I do ride 6 days a week.
Do you ever feel the master links getting loose because you remove them so often? Just wondering. Thanks for the comment!
@@rgmtb No but i do rotate and have a stock off new that I use.
Whats the minimum distance you cover every day you ride? How long do your chains last when you rotate them?
@@1911Zoey Done 16 miles but that is hard going and lots of heavy mud as I came back and spent 3 hour washing everything. Yesterday I put on a new derailleur GX 11 speed as my 12 speed is very tired and the 11 speed GX was the same, and the cable for my seat post snapped so changed that, and 4 new bearings on the rear axle and a big difference. The chains I use are Sram PC-1110 as there cheap and use 4 and rotate.
Too your orginal question I run 4 chains too one complete cassette shimano SLX M7000 11/46 and the chains are 114 links and still gives slack at 180mm rear travel and have never broke a chain. Don't use Sram cassettes ae they wear faster.
no i did not know about printing side vs non print side! i noticed the print on some chains but did not know the difference.
Great video!! I learned new info and understand better what I "knew" before
KMC X8.99/X8 Bicycle Chain (1/2 x 3/32-Inch, 116L, Silver fits perfect on my Schwinn road
Just subscribed because of this video great job understanding chains.
Awesome, thank you!
I use KMC X1 SL Silver, I did not have long enough chain I had to cut one add 7 links, but I will ave to buy a 22 link chain.
Can you used 11 speed dereilleur on 10 speed cassette
I'm watching this because I got my bike converted to ebike. And I'm thinking of mix matching the gear-set like putting 9 speed RD (can cover 50t cassette) into 8 speed cassette (11-46T) while using 8speed chain because I think the thicker the chain the better. I'm just looking for someone who already did this 😅
Wow! Learnt something informative into chains.
Pitch is 1/2” for chains. He keeps saying it’s 1/8”
Never knew chains has direction Hehehe
a thing I noticed is the Quicklinks is getting more wear than the rest of the chain, so do the links closest to it.
Great video guys.
I'd say I was safe with all 18 speed bikes, until some nutter gave me a bike with a 6 speed index shift that he'd installed a 5 speed rear wheel onto. Then he couldn't understand why top gear came off the cassette... Switching to friction shifters but at least I don't have any fuss about mis-matched chains. The video certainly has a lot of useful info though
All bikes Shimano running gear - one less headache
Glad you got your bike worked out. This topic surly has become more complicated over time with all the combos we now have to deal with 🤦♂️
Chain pitch is 1/2", not 1/8". Drink a beer.
Guy's supposed to be an expert and doesn't even know all chain pitch is 1/2".....He said it more than once too!
@@paul340mopar That got me too, I don't know shit about bike chains and that's why I'm watching but, I do know the difference between 1/8" and 1/2" Duh, had to google chain bike chain pitch to get the correct info: bicycle chain pitch is exactly 1/2 inch (12.7 mm). This goes for all the bicycle chains, regardless of the speed number.
Dudes preaching computer error, and Chinese translated manual's . Then calls all of us a conspiracy.
He is the owner
Not a wrench
When he's saying 1/8 th in. He's referring to the inside width of the chain sides
So would a 10 speed chain run more smooth on a 9 speed since its lighter more narrow?
Excellent discussions!
Excellent and informative. Thank you so much.
You guys are awesome 👌
He meant to say 1/2" pitch.
Great video. Thanks for doing it.
Does this mean I can use an 11's chain on a 1by 10's cassette?
Also didn’t know about direction. Thanks so much.
As far as i know only Shimano chains are directional
Precious for me to know about chain thankful
So what you’re saying is that if I file down the chain rings on my 21 speed, then I can put a 12 speed cassette on my rear wheel and have a 24÷52 gear ratio?
Certainly chains my perspective on this topic
I really wish things could be simplified like they used to be. Do you think they purposely make them difficult to give bike shops more business or is it because nothing is regulated (like automobiles) so they have free range to design anything or are they just worrying about weight and strength?
This may seem like a stupid question but would the red bmx chain fit my dirt jumper mtb
1min 05sec: The pitch of a bicycle chain is 1/8 inch?
Pitch is 1/2 inch,I don't know how much he understands cause he also said"11/128 thousandths of an inch".Must have no basic mechanical training in measurement.
@@simonyardley3126 2:33 I think Jason simply mixed them up. 3:16 Jason obviously meant that the width was reduced by 11/128 or about 0.2 mm, the calipers clearly didn't indicate the with of a chain. From people that know him, he's a fantastic mechanic and a very nice guy. And where do you get a "mechanical training in measurement" anyway?
Great video! Very informative! Learned a lot. I wanted to ask though if a Shimano m6100 chain (12speed) will work with SRAM NX chainring?
I'm a little hesitant to recommend that. NX is 10 speed and you are looking to put a 12 speed (tighter spacing) chain on it. Look, you can "make" a lot of things work but you need to ask yourself if it's really a good idea.