The crazy part is that it isn't flammable despite being super volatile and immiscible with water. It is volatile and with extremely low viscosity yet has a high density and molecular weight. Truly a weird set of properties to coexist in one material..
it might seem weid at first but its actually quite understandable. Its density and weight as a liquid (and vapour) is highly dependent on intermolecular interactions but even more by its molecular weight. Because basically every H-atom (weight = 1u) is exchanged by a fluorine atom (weight = 19 u) its molecular weight increases quite drastically compared to the (lets call it) 'non dry water'. also the molecular structure itself should be a bit smaller in volume with the CF bond being quite strong and therefore a bit shorter than CH bonds. The high volatility might be further on caused by the strong repulsive interactions of C-F groups to each other (here again intermolecular interactions). so in the end its just a funny coincidence, that the high molecular mass and small molecular volume might help condense it @ about 200K but it just breaks down to vapour at slightly above 40°C . edit: I just looked it up and the average bond length of C-F is about 1/3 longer compared to C-F bonds. therefore this is false. nevertheless, the molecules molecular density should increase and of course much more characteristics have an effect on its density in general.
Fluorine chemistry is really cool, fluorine compounds can do things nothing else can. We should all be really grateful to the 19th-century chemists who risked, and sometimes gave, their lives trying to isolate it. I don't think he even mentioned the most interesting potential application of fluorocarbons. They turn out to be fantastically good at dissolving non-polar gases - in particular oxygen, which means that fluorocarbon-based formulations are being investigated as a form of artificial blood. Imagine blood banks being a thing of the past because we could make our own...
Actually it is already used for cooling in some data centers. The liquid may be expensive but you only need to buy it once, as it's not getting lost in the process. What they do is they add little heat spreaders to CPUs, which also helps to transfer heat faster to the liquid and everything runs inside a completely closed tank so that evaporated liquid cannot escape.The cover of the tank has head spreader on the inside and a massive cooling system on the outside, so that evaporated liquid will condense at the cover and fall back into the liquid, just as shown with the glass of ice water. Of course you can build the same thing with air cooling but the liquid transports heat much better than air does and because of that you need no fans so there are no movable parts involved that may fail. Also nothing will get dusty or dirty over time. You can also use water cooling to avoid movable parts and dirt, yet water will be a problem if you ever get a leak in the cooling system. And you don't need a lot of that fluid. As soon as all parts of the system are barely covered, the cooling system will work reliable. The fluid is not really "cooling" the system, its task is just to transfer heat quickly to the actual cooling system sitting outside of this tank. The real cooling system will use conventional air cooling or water cooling but it can use massive components, as it doesn't have to fit onto tiny chips, it's a big rig on the cover of a big tank.
ACTUALLY: The reason why it doesn't make paper soggy has nothing to do with viscosity. It is because water forms H-bonds with cellulose hydrating the fibers.
@@DrBrainTickler In simpler terms: Water bonds weakly to the paper molecules changing them and sticking to them. The other substance doesn't bond very well so it just drips off. If water didn't bond it would drip out just the same. Viscosity doesn't have much effect here.
Cellulose chains are inter-connected by OH-O-type hydrogen bonds to form flat sheets with CH-O hydrogen bonds. Water is a good polar solvent. Among its properties, water molecules are solvent ionizing and dissociating molecules. Cellulose polymer is hydrophilic and tends to strongly interact with water.
@@DrBrainTickler The difference is that viscosity refers to a substance (be it liquid or gas)'s ability to stick to itself (i.e. other molecules of the same substance) whereas what alex1 is referring to is water's ability to form bonds with other substances. Note that a h-bond is an inter-molecular bond, so the water molecules aren't actually 'reacting' with the cellulose to become a single 'material'. Think of water and paper as the two parts of a velcro strap (where the water is the part with the hooks and paper is the mushy soft part) and then think of dry water as a completely smooth and flat surface... I feel like that'd be an apt visual analogy. The water and paper aren't 'becoming one' in a sense so you can still dry off all of the water from wet paper.. however the intermolecular h-bond that forms IS strong enough to pull at the paper sufficiently to deform it which is why it won't be nice and flat anymore once you dry it off and it will have some deformities.
Another way would be to produce a lot of diethyl ether and dunk the mobo into it. The bp of diethyl ether is 37 °C and it is easy to produce. It also forms diethyl ether peroxide when exposed to oxygen and UV and that is shock sensitive.
louis tournas Ha ha! Just for all the kiddies that have access to eBay and Amazon, please take his post as a joke. That crap will explode or at least catch a serious fire long before you level up.
I work with this chemical daily (Specifically 3M Novec - HFE7200 (75°C boiling point). It is very fascinating for a liquid to evaporate faster than brake cleaner and have no smell. It also doesn't cool down skin like acetone or isopropyl alchohol. The only thing is these fluid are very very expensive at about 512$/Gallon. He also didn't mention most of these can still flow at very low temps as well. For Novec 7200 it remains a viscous liquid until -70°C. And it has a very high thermal coefficient of expansion. About 1.4x volume from cold to hot. this also means the density when its very cold is nearly 2x that of water and when warm its still about 1.5x heavier that water.
If I'm not mistaken, this _has_ been tested as a candidate for liquid breathing and worked. Well, until it didn't a few hours later in rats. The other main issue was with the highly increased risk of pneumonia and other fluid-related infections.
@@analogdesigner-Jay a short for "Poly-merised water". Water that allegedly turn into a polymer, plastic like. I don't think he meant that because "Polywater" is coined probably because people misunderstood oily-water as an actual water.
@@xponen Thanks for explaining that! So back in the late 1960s I saw this commercial on television where they were explaining their development of "polywater". They were showing the various uses of it. Lastly they had a beaker filled with it and took a rat put it's head into this liquid for several seconds. It appeared to be breathing while immersed in this liquid. That's all that I remember.
I've actually been looking for 3M Novec for ages. Turns out they're the perfect fluid for liquid cooling computers since you can submerge an entire motherboard without the risk of electrical failure
Could already do this with mineral oil tbh, would be a lot cheaper. It's been done many times over, I remember seeing fish tank rigs 10-15 years ago, and they were prob old photos at that time.
This reminds me of another 3M product I first heard about in the late 1980s, called Fluorinert (including very similar amazed demonstrations of immersing running computers and other electronics, and using it to find heat-generating circuit defects, etc). I wonder what the difference is between that, and the numerous varieties of Novec.
I used to work in electronics manufacturing and we used gallons of Fluorinert. Here's a comparison I found for the two: www.besttechnologyinc.com/precision-cleaning-chemistries/3m-novec-engineered-fluids-solvents/thermal-management-heat-transfer/#:~:text=While%20Novec%E2%84%A2%20is%20based,from%20the%20presence%20of%20fluorocarbons.
The Fluorinert product family is the grand daddy of immersion cooling liquid for electronics. It's (really, whats in a name?) based on fluor-based chemicals (perfluorocarbon PFC, perfluoropolyether PFPE) and, while excellent in being stable / inert and having a very high di-electric constant, there is this issue with the stuff having ozone for lunch. Whatever spills and evaporates will cause ozone layer problems, just like refrigerants do. Novec, on the other hand, does not have the global warming / ozone hole issue because of a different kind of chemical composition. But it's also lower in di-electric constant and it's easier for stuff to dissolve into it. It's less inert and less electrically isolating than Fluorinert.
i first found out about fluorinert and novec from the watch community. there's this thing called hydromod, where they do DIY liquid filled watches, mimicking some diving watches like sinn hydro. basically it's one of the fanciest solution to put as the watch lume wont get dissolved.
Yeah i dont even like calling it that, for fear it would be tempting to drink. Not to mention it's only resemblance is it being clear. Idk how bad it would even be to drink. edit: Lol, it says in the health hazards: "If swallowed: No need for first aid is anticipated". I still wouldn't try it.
Novec is similar to 3M Fluorinert. Fluorinert was used as the cooling medium in the Cray-2 supercomputers back in the late 80's. When I worked for JBL around that time, we also used Fluorinert for amplifier prototype testing as we could run them at full power without the need for heatsinks by running them submerged in a tank of Fluorinert.
it's very cool and off the top of my head, very few liquids can do the same thing. Most volatile and heavy-vapour liquids are flammable eg hexanes, ether etc, and they aren't nearly as dense as a vapour. Chloroform might be a candidate, but its vapours are two times lighter than the one in the video. I guess only perfluoro organics can do that to such an extent.
this stuff is very well known. people DO use it in cooling rigs; it's just too expensive to be viable to use in a standard cooler. IOW... your standard heatsink with air cooled radiator works well for a tenth of the price that making one using a heat pump with this fluid would.
Actually, der8auer already used 3M Novec a few years ago to cool PC Hardware. He named the project Aqua Exhalare. So it's not new at all. th-cam.com/video/nImpGnw92EY/w-d-xo.html
I don't think the spot with the most bubbles is necessarily the hottest part. Boiling liquids need a nucleation point to evaporate, such as scratches and imperfections on a surface, or other bubbles. Those bubbles are probably forming on small imperfections in the surface of the CPU.
Imagine having a shower in that stuff - "cool" shower as it boils and fills the room with (probably deadly) steam, hop out of shower and your dry instantly, or dead.
Also you'd still be filthy, as it didn't desolve any of the things that made you smell bad like your sweat. It would be a weird shower experience, and utterly useless. I'd like to know how it would feel to swim in it though, but filling an Olympic swimming pool is going to be very expensive
I find the experiment with the PC hardware very interesting. There is one thing that "dry water" has shown - that it can absorb heat very quickly. The only real problem with the test was that the "dry water" in turn could not adequately dissipate the heat. But if you had a cooling system that would wash the heat spreader of a CPU with this dry water, which would then be quickly passed on to a radiator system?
if you use a passive cooler without fan it is sufficient. The limitations of the cooling without passive cooler is the surface area. Because in the moment a bubble is formed, it is isolating the cpu for a fraction of a second. If you have more surface area, this bubbles have less of an impact.
I remember seeing a video, a few years back, where this substance was showcased as a coolant for a computer. The whole computer was submerged in the substance, just like in Thoisoi's experiment.
It was when he poured the vapor layer I thought of it but you can still drown in high density fluids, you just need to tie a higher density object to your feet.
if he added a small heatsink and a fan it im sure it would work way better than even water cooling. The problem is that without surface area it couldnt do much.
It would work in a closed-loop system with a heat exchanger. One of the first supercomputers, the Cray-1, used liquid fluorocarbons for cooling, as the semiconductor logic available at the time (no CMOS like today) would have burned up with all the heat it self-generated without cooling.
@@michaeldmingo1525 I work with this stuff in fire suppression systems. If you drink this it will make you very ill. It’s not water, it’s a fluorinated ketone.
"Why Water Is NOT Wet - With PROOF" th-cam.com/video/ugyqOSUlR2A/w-d-xo.html "Why Water Is STILL NOT Wet - WITH MORE PROOF" th-cam.com/video/y-FdvzdL86A/w-d-xo.html
@@T0N3SH1FT3R The whole, is water wet, is like asking if paint is painted, is glue glued or is fire burnt. Language wise we'll say water is wet but really people are referencing that water has the ability to make things wet. So when people say water is wet colloquially they actually mean exposure to it will cause the condition of being wet. It's just a gap in clarity of language. The real question is is cereal soup..
I swear the other day I had a shower but I didn't feel wet. It was the weirdest feeling! I got out of the shower and told my wife, she looked at me like I just said the craziest thing..
Would the dry water, being a heavier density than regular water, be used to displace water from electronics by placing the phone in a vat of dry water??
That was my first thought too. Instead of using dry rice, putting your phone in this should force water to the top, then the phone should be good as new in a few days. I also wonder if it could be used to ‘dry’ solvents and other chemicals.
Jesse Hicks It doesn’t mix with water, so is unlikely to remove water already under components; the ideal drying agent readily mixes with water and so carries it away in the bulk of fluid, allowing the small quantity solvent remaining to then cleanly evaporate leaving no residue. Acetone (lab grade, not the stuff available to the public which has additives and bittering agents to dissuade accidental ingestion) has long been in laboratory glassware for this purpose, but it isn’t safe to use on electronics as it dissolves many plastics and adhesives used in electronic devices (it dissolves the adhesive used to bond the circuit board (PCB) together for example).
@@Bin216 Exactly, it doesn't mix. Place a wet phone in the bottom of a container of the dry water, it should displace the normal water/ liquid, pushing that to the top of the container. Of course by the time you try such, the normal water may have wreaked its havok, though there have been lucky among us.
@@MaddJakd Normal water will not "wreak havoc" on electronics as long as it is pure. Pure water is a non-conductor and will evaporate in time leaving no residue.
Sanjeev Kumar I do agree ☝🏻 I was just meaning that my ears are kinda addict to his accent, which is cool ! Edit : I’m french and I understand well enough when he talks 👍🏻
I had planed to make an inordinate number of jokes about this, 'D R Y' water afterall. But then you presented your topic and I actually was impressed. No jokes, this was great.
@@IX_C__AmoghBSVPS R11 is trichloromonofluoromethane a CFC refrigerant that is liquid at room temps and used to be used to flushing units and parts cleaning but it outlawed now.
You wouldn't expect someone to do a topic about dry water in a TH-cam video while also putting his smartphone and pouring it onto a motherboard while putting the PC at maximum stress. Great content like always thoisoi!!!!
@@AxielFan Therefore, you'd feel quite cool actually. Same thing that happens with Acetone. In general, if It has a boiling point higher than water it feels warm on your skin (like Glycerine), otherwise it feels cool
So I'm wondering if water floats on top of this stuff than if you got your phone wet with water and wanted to try and save it, could you submerge it in a tall vessel of this stuff to force the water out?
it doesn't bond with anything, so any water that is stuck inside or underneath a transistor is just going to stay there. what you need to do is use a hydrophillic fluid that also has high volatility. typically that's an alcohol.
This belongs to pfas a large family of harmful chemicals have been banned. Don't play with it. Though the safety data sheet says no acute toxicity but it has long term effects
This is fascinating especially the part where the vapor is heavier than air and how it literally looks exactly like a liquid but it's not a liquid it's just the vapor it moves just like a liquid The Vapor does it's fascinating
@Chris Mine bro i was not being rude i did not watched whole video so that time i did not know why he wrote that comment and also i was frustrated that's why i wrote that reply😅
No it doesn't because even on a molecular skill the object still got a little of it. Also it is not 100 percent h20. It's a little different. If I can poor more of itself on it and it does not cover the object or soak in it. Than it is not wet. Liquid is liquid. It's called dry water because it wipes of easy. It's not exact characteristics. It's similar but that doesn't mean exact
If the letters say it's not h20. Than it's not regular water dry water is similar to water even though it's not completely h20 only that's why we say water it consist of it but thats not it's total chemical outcome
I love all your videos! Can you make a video detailing what elements can be found in electronics! It would be so cool to check off elements on the periodic table. The table of elements can be used as a checklist! Gold-Check,Aluminum-check, iridium- check and so on! As you find elements in capacitors and other computer components you could check them off the table of elements! It would be so cool to see how many elements can be found in the everyday PC or laptop! Thank you for all your hard work!
Channels like this should get a payment from international organisations for the positive benefits to society. I studied Physics and Chemistry at A-Level (16-18 education in the UK) but now understand so much more about the 'real application' of both sciences thanks to Thoisoi and similar channels. I wish they were around during my educational days! 🤓
@@_tyrannus that is true and partially why Hydrogenfluoride is so problematic. But during the chemical reaction of dry water under UV light you will get Hydrogenfluoride, not the acid. Hydrofluoric acid as a liquid would be a lot easier to handle....
@@blackbird2901 What I meant is that hydrogen fluoride reacts with moisture in the air and your lungs forming hydrofluoric acid, just like SO2 and NOX form sulfuric and nitric acid respectively.
Seeing you put that liquid on your hand reminds me of the case of Karen Wetterhahn and the two drops of dimethylmercury that fell on her gloved hand. Horrifying stuff.
The crazy part is that it isn't flammable despite being super volatile and immiscible with water. It is volatile and with extremely low viscosity yet has a high density and molecular weight. Truly a weird set of properties to coexist in one material..
it might seem weid at first but its actually quite understandable. Its density and weight as a liquid (and vapour) is highly dependent on intermolecular interactions but even more by its molecular weight. Because basically every H-atom (weight = 1u) is exchanged by a fluorine atom (weight = 19 u) its molecular weight increases quite drastically compared to the (lets call it) 'non dry water'. also the molecular structure itself should be a bit smaller in volume with the CF bond being quite strong and therefore a bit shorter than CH bonds.
The high volatility might be further on caused by the strong repulsive interactions of C-F groups to each other (here again intermolecular interactions).
so in the end its just a funny coincidence, that the high molecular mass and small molecular volume might help condense it @ about 200K but it just breaks down to vapour at slightly above 40°C .
edit: I just looked it up and the average bond length of C-F is about 1/3 longer compared to C-F bonds. therefore this is false. nevertheless, the molecules molecular density should increase and of course much more characteristics have an effect on its density in general.
@@1xBublex1 what in the bill nye 🤣
@@bordoyct8246 bruh frs i already hear the theme song playing 💀
@@1xBublex1 how is smaller mass have smaller volume do you mean it structure the way they connect ? it connection has more bend vs elongated?
Fluorine chemistry is really cool, fluorine compounds can do things nothing else can. We should all be really grateful to the 19th-century chemists who risked, and sometimes gave, their lives trying to isolate it.
I don't think he even mentioned the most interesting potential application of fluorocarbons. They turn out to be fantastically good at dissolving non-polar gases - in particular oxygen, which means that fluorocarbon-based formulations are being investigated as a form of artificial blood. Imagine blood banks being a thing of the past because we could make our own...
I would like it to see it frozen.
@tester123532456 bruh
it freezes at -108c so that gets a bit tough
@Michael Bishop You can probably find it on the 3M website, as they are an engineering company
@tester123532456 lol
@Michael Bishop if you google the liquids name you will find the product site from 3M, it 'freezes' at -108°C.
So scammers can advertise "waterproof" products using this. Lol
Labeling it Dry waterproof would be amazing actually since you will think the Dry is just something they are adding because it keeps you dry.
but its too expensive
I bet using just pure alcohol is cheaper
As if a scammer would spend so much money.
@@PinkamenaDianePle Yeah dude because this is a serious idea.
Actually it is already used for cooling in some data centers. The liquid may be expensive but you only need to buy it once, as it's not getting lost in the process. What they do is they add little heat spreaders to CPUs, which also helps to transfer heat faster to the liquid and everything runs inside a completely closed tank so that evaporated liquid cannot escape.The cover of the tank has head spreader on the inside and a massive cooling system on the outside, so that evaporated liquid will condense at the cover and fall back into the liquid, just as shown with the glass of ice water. Of course you can build the same thing with air cooling but the liquid transports heat much better than air does and because of that you need no fans so there are no movable parts involved that may fail. Also nothing will get dusty or dirty over time. You can also use water cooling to avoid movable parts and dirt, yet water will be a problem if you ever get a leak in the cooling system. And you don't need a lot of that fluid. As soon as all parts of the system are barely covered, the cooling system will work reliable. The fluid is not really "cooling" the system, its task is just to transfer heat quickly to the actual cooling system sitting outside of this tank. The real cooling system will use conventional air cooling or water cooling but it can use massive components, as it doesn't have to fit onto tiny chips, it's a big rig on the cover of a big tank.
Finally, i can shower without the water being so wet
Be a pretty expensive shower. My MR beast will do it
😅😂🤣🤣🤣
Water is not wet
@@bryantmorris2744 water is not wet
@@bryantmorris2744 the fact that there is something called "dry" water proves that "normal" water is indeed wet!
They did it
They made the "is water wet" an actual topic
Why science
Water is not wet, it gets stuff wet. You are welcome
@@SpiriDussgaming water is wet
@@puckry9686 water is wet and not wet at the same time
@@rodesu9572 Water is not wet. It's only wet when it touches the surface of objects.
@@puckry9686 th-cam.com/video/s-Dh51C04ic/w-d-xo.html
ACTUALLY: The reason why it doesn't make paper soggy has nothing to do with viscosity. It is because water forms H-bonds with cellulose hydrating the fibers.
Which makes it viscous? Heh heh.
I'm not savvy enough with chemistry to understand you with any confidence.
Although, I would like to.
@@DrBrainTickler In simpler terms: Water bonds weakly to the paper molecules changing them and sticking to them. The other substance doesn't bond very well so it just drips off. If water didn't bond it would drip out just the same. Viscosity doesn't have much effect here.
Cellulose chains are inter-connected by OH-O-type hydrogen bonds to form flat sheets with CH-O hydrogen bonds. Water is a good polar solvent. Among its properties, water molecules are solvent ionizing and dissociating molecules. Cellulose polymer is hydrophilic and tends to strongly interact with water.
@@DrBrainTickler The difference is that viscosity refers to a substance (be it liquid or gas)'s ability to stick to itself (i.e. other molecules of the same substance) whereas what alex1 is referring to is water's ability to form bonds with other substances.
Note that a h-bond is an inter-molecular bond, so the water molecules aren't actually 'reacting' with the cellulose to become a single 'material'.
Think of water and paper as the two parts of a velcro strap (where the water is the part with the hooks and paper is the mushy soft part) and then think of dry water as a completely smooth and flat surface... I feel like that'd be an apt visual analogy.
The water and paper aren't 'becoming one' in a sense so you can still dry off all of the water from wet paper.. however the intermolecular h-bond that forms IS strong enough to pull at the paper sufficiently to deform it which is why it won't be nice and flat anymore once you dry it off and it will have some deformities.
@@ayporos Basically this yeah.
That's an incredibly interesting way to see where heat is on a motherboard
Water cooling on another level
See also Der8auer for more information to this topic =D he uses a closed sysem to cool a whole case with 3M Novec
And toxic, isn’t it? Must be a closed system with hopefully redundant leak detection, or your sleeping dog or cat is dust.
Another way would be to produce a lot of diethyl ether and dunk the mobo into it. The bp of diethyl ether is 37 °C and it is easy to produce. It also forms diethyl ether peroxide when exposed to oxygen and UV and that is shock sensitive.
louis tournas
Ha ha! Just for all the kiddies that have access to eBay and Amazon, please take his post as a joke. That crap will explode or at least catch a serious fire long before you level up.
Gordon Ramsay: "This water is dry"
Looolllll **throws glass across kitchen**
Water: No Donkey, You are.
Touch it!!!!
This water is Dry as sand 🤣
Its dryer than the Sahara desert
I work with this chemical daily (Specifically 3M Novec - HFE7200 (75°C boiling point). It is very fascinating for a liquid to evaporate faster than brake cleaner and have no smell. It also doesn't cool down skin like acetone or isopropyl alchohol. The only thing is these fluid are very very expensive at about 512$/Gallon. He also didn't mention most of these can still flow at very low temps as well. For Novec 7200 it remains a viscous liquid until -70°C. And it has a very high thermal coefficient of expansion. About 1.4x volume from cold to hot. this also means the density when its very cold is nearly 2x that of water and when warm its still about 1.5x heavier that water.
Well. I didn't think I needed to make a dry-watercooled PC...
If I'm not mistaken, this _has_ been tested as a candidate for liquid breathing and worked. Well, until it didn't a few hours later in rats. The other main issue was with the highly increased risk of pneumonia and other fluid-related infections.
Yes, in the late 1960s it was referred to as "Polywater".
@@analogdesigner-Jay a short for "Poly-merised water". Water that allegedly turn into a polymer, plastic like. I don't think he meant that because "Polywater" is coined probably because people misunderstood oily-water as an actual water.
@@xponen Thanks for explaining that! So back in the late 1960s I saw this commercial on television where they were explaining their development of "polywater". They were showing the various uses of it. Lastly they had a beaker filled with it and took a rat put it's head into this liquid for several seconds. It appeared to be breathing while immersed in this liquid. That's all that I remember.
@@analogdesigner-Jay the commercial was for the movie the abyss and it was in the 80s
@@analogdesigner-Jay Why does that remind me of frogs?
“it releases dangerous vapors when exposed to ultraviolet light” then he shines a blacklight all over it 😂 lol
Jamdouglass but only when you pour it in your ear first apparently
And I don't think it was a real ultraviolet light, to be honest.
That's hydrofluoric acid. Small amounts vapors wouldn't outright burn you or anything. But deliberately inhaling it is not healthy.
Most likely just a deep violet LED, with its spectrum barely reaching into the UVA range.
He wears a mask. Remember? We all do nowadays so no extra precautions needed
I've actually been looking for 3M Novec for ages. Turns out they're the perfect fluid for liquid cooling computers since you can submerge an entire motherboard without the risk of electrical failure
You could probably use some tips and tricks from mineral oil pc cooling.
It's been done before, mostly as showcase. Problem is that you need to seal the case so the Novec doesn't evaporate.
Never heard of distilled water?
@@Iskandr314 You can't use distilled water, because it will not stay demineralized for long. So you will get a short fairly soon.
Have you thought of using dcm or Cubeain they both have a boiling point of around 55c and are Innert to plastics plus they are like 5 Times cheaper
*Proceed to turn my grandma aquarium into a gaming rig*
Could already do this with mineral oil tbh, would be a lot cheaper. It's been done many times over, I remember seeing fish tank rigs 10-15 years ago, and they were prob old photos at that time.
Mineral oil makes a mess tho this wouldn't the oil still kinda ruins a pc because you will like never be able to clean it off
@@sauercrowder so this stuff is more expensive but so much nicer
The only thing heavier than this water is his accent.
True
Its Borat.
Nah its not like you cant understand him i like it
No the only thing heavier then mercury is his accent
Italian?
This reminds me of another 3M product I first heard about in the late 1980s, called Fluorinert (including very similar amazed demonstrations of immersing running computers and other electronics, and using it to find heat-generating circuit defects, etc). I wonder what the difference is between that, and the numerous varieties of Novec.
I used to work in electronics manufacturing and we used gallons of Fluorinert. Here's a comparison I found for the two: www.besttechnologyinc.com/precision-cleaning-chemistries/3m-novec-engineered-fluids-solvents/thermal-management-heat-transfer/#:~:text=While%20Novec%E2%84%A2%20is%20based,from%20the%20presence%20of%20fluorocarbons.
The Fluorinert product family is the grand daddy of immersion cooling liquid for electronics. It's (really, whats in a name?) based on fluor-based chemicals (perfluorocarbon PFC, perfluoropolyether PFPE) and, while excellent in being stable / inert and having a very high di-electric constant, there is this issue with the stuff having ozone for lunch. Whatever spills and evaporates will cause ozone layer problems, just like refrigerants do.
Novec, on the other hand, does not have the global warming / ozone hole issue because of a different kind of chemical composition. But it's also lower in di-electric constant and it's easier for stuff to dissolve into it. It's less inert and less electrically isolating than Fluorinert.
i first found out about fluorinert and novec from the watch community. there's this thing called hydromod, where they do DIY liquid filled watches, mimicking some diving watches like sinn hydro.
basically it's one of the fanciest solution to put as the watch lume wont get dissolved.
Holy shit i didn't expect you will drown whole PC in it! What a legend
der8auer created the same stuff, just search it der8auer submerged PC
marshanaan Scheiße, ja! Das hat er!
@@SchimmelAufDemBrot4m eh sorry i don't understand Germany
@@memet5811 Rough translation: "Shit, yea! He did that!" Basically agreeing with you
@@memet5811 dont worry, i dont understand United States of America either :)
C6F12O as "dry water" , seems legit. It doesn't even have a single hydrogen atom in there.
Yeah i dont even like calling it that, for fear it would be tempting to drink. Not to mention it's only resemblance is it being clear. Idk how bad it would even be to drink.
edit: Lol, it says in the health hazards: "If swallowed: No need for first aid is anticipated". I still wouldn't try it.
@@astronichols1900 I read that as "don't bother, he's already dead"...
@@Atlessa ROFLMFAO i thought the same 🤣
Zero H2O molecules, it's made of perfluoro-methyl-ketone, kind of like acetone with a bunch of fluorine atoms.
Me watching youtube instead of going to sleep:
Hmmm yes dry water.
same
"unfortunately, we can not drink it " :))) great stuff, with just perfect humor.
Now I'll go and Google if caesium will react ti dry water
Lol
Does caesium react with it? I need to find out
@@bamcr1218 three of us!
it shouldnt because there isnt anything it could react with, unless the dry water has some absorbed water, or maybe the flourine somehow escapes
I wished he would’ve at least tasted it
4:44 you heard it here first bois, dry water easily fills the ass hole
Was searching for this comment
"...easily fills up, ur asshole..."
Great lol! I read this comment first. Now I have no idea what he really meant because all I heard was fill up your a-hole.
@@hybridamericandude3575 XD
@@hybridamericandude3575 "Easily fills up the vessel"
Video: “don’t try this at home”
Me: *already chugging the bleach”
Found the kid making edgy teen jokes
And eating tide pods
Novec is similar to 3M Fluorinert. Fluorinert was used as the cooling medium in the Cray-2 supercomputers back in the late 80's. When I worked for JBL around that time, we also used Fluorinert for amplifier prototype testing as we could run them at full power without the need for heatsinks by running them submerged in a tank of Fluorinert.
It's so weird seeing the smoke from the match 'floating' on the vapour layer.
it's very cool and off the top of my head, very few liquids can do the same thing. Most volatile and heavy-vapour liquids are flammable eg hexanes, ether etc, and they aren't nearly as dense as a vapour. Chloroform might be a candidate, but its vapours are two times lighter than the one in the video. I guess only perfluoro organics can do that to such an extent.
Ok, that is some weird liquid indeed
11:30 Send this to Linus Tech Tips!
Someone pls Hahaha
this stuff is very well known. people DO use it in cooling rigs; it's just too expensive to be viable to use in a standard cooler. IOW... your standard heatsink with air cooled radiator works well for a tenth of the price that making one using a heat pump with this fluid would.
And to TKOR. I'd love to see them do some experiments with it.
slapped this Linus😂
Actually, der8auer already used 3M Novec a few years ago to cool PC Hardware. He named the project Aqua Exhalare. So it's not new at all.
th-cam.com/video/nImpGnw92EY/w-d-xo.html
13:05 look, you can see the most active part of the CPU through the bubble density!
I don't think the spot with the most bubbles is necessarily the hottest part. Boiling liquids need a nucleation point to evaporate, such as scratches and imperfections on a surface, or other bubbles. Those bubbles are probably forming on small imperfections in the surface of the CPU.
I saw that also, it must be where most of that particular program was being processed!
Edit: I guess I'm digressing aren't I?
Imagine having a shower in that stuff - "cool" shower as it boils and fills the room with (probably deadly) steam, hop out of shower and your dry instantly, or dead.
Also you'd still be filthy, as it didn't desolve any of the things that made you smell bad like your sweat. It would be a weird shower experience, and utterly useless. I'd like to know how it would feel to swim in it though, but filling an Olympic swimming pool is going to be very expensive
@Kyaru Momochi well you’d just be more buoyant, I don’t think it would be that hard, except for the suffocating vapor
@@GermanTopGameTV that's what soap is for
@ᴄᴏᴠᴏɪᴅ • ... do you know what soap does?
@ᴄᴏᴠᴏɪᴅ • soap breaks down dirt particles regardless of water amount. It's a weak solvent for oils and dirt.
I find the experiment with the PC hardware very interesting.
There is one thing that "dry water" has shown - that it can absorb heat very quickly. The only real problem with the test was that the "dry water" in turn could not adequately dissipate the heat. But if you had a cooling system that would wash the heat spreader of a CPU with this dry water, which would then be quickly passed on to a radiator system?
if you use a passive cooler without fan it is sufficient. The limitations of the cooling without passive cooler is the surface area. Because in the moment a bubble is formed, it is isolating the cpu for a fraction of a second. If you have more surface area, this bubbles have less of an impact.
I remember seeing a video, a few years back, where this substance was showcased as a coolant for a computer. The whole computer was submerged in the substance, just like in Thoisoi's experiment.
So you can drown in dry water without even getting wet, cool!
perfect murder weapon
@@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
😄😄😄
You would float on top of it, but still suffocate in that vapour layer D:
It was when he poured the vapor layer I thought of it but you can still drown in high density fluids, you just need to tie a higher density object to your feet.
Not if it has dissolved oxygen in it apparently :P
My computer: don't even think about it
if he added a small heatsink and a fan it im sure it would work way better than even water cooling. The problem is that without surface area it couldnt do much.
It would work in a closed-loop system with a heat exchanger. One of the first supercomputers, the Cray-1, used liquid fluorocarbons for cooling, as the semiconductor logic available at the time (no CMOS like today) would have burned up with all the heat it self-generated without cooling.
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I thought this was going to be an April Fool's video about regular water - which does have a number of extraordinary properties.
This was an interesting one! I really enjoy the narrator's subtle sense of humor. That liquid is not the only dry thing in the video.
That might be a good substance for cleaning ancient documents & old paintings?
Imagine someone giving you this water in the desert
That's just too cruel 😁😁
But can you drink it or not?
@@michaeldmingo1525 even if it’s not toxic it’s not gonna hydrate you
@@michaeldmingo1525 I work with this stuff in fire suppression systems. If you drink this it will make you very ill. It’s not water, it’s a fluorinated ketone.
@@jeremyzimmerli4887 -PENTANONE is a fluorinated ketone and the structural formula
This is the only time you answer "no" to "is the water wet?"
hahah god
"Why Water Is NOT Wet - With PROOF" th-cam.com/video/ugyqOSUlR2A/w-d-xo.html
"Why Water Is STILL NOT Wet - WITH MORE PROOF" th-cam.com/video/y-FdvzdL86A/w-d-xo.html
This proof regular water is wet
No water isn't wet, u can make things with it wet. But water isn't wet.
@@T0N3SH1FT3R The whole, is water wet, is like asking if paint is painted, is glue glued or is fire burnt. Language wise we'll say water is wet but really people are referencing that water has the ability to make things wet. So when people say water is wet colloquially they actually mean exposure to it will cause the condition of being wet. It's just a gap in clarity of language. The real question is is cereal soup..
Most people find ot weird but I love this voice 😂. It is very easy to understand.
not sure bout ez to understand but i do like it
@@Stellarffxi😁
I swear the other day I had a shower but I didn't feel wet. It was the weirdest feeling! I got out of the shower and told my wife, she looked at me like I just said the craziest thing..
I hadn’t ever heard of this stuff. Thanks!
One of the best video I have seen this year❤️
Oh man, i love this channel... this guy do crazy tests with really expensive components... all in name of the science
That computer setup submerged in dry water is one of the coolest builds I've ever seen. I totally want one now. :D
Thank you for the video. That was extremely interesting.
I remember when they showcased this stuff on beyond 2000 in the 90's. They submerged a television set in it.
This water is so expensive that will he spill it every time :D
Would the dry water, being a heavier density than regular water, be used to displace water from electronics by placing the phone in a vat of dry water??
That was my first thought too. Instead of using dry rice, putting your phone in this should force water to the top, then the phone should be good as new in a few days.
I also wonder if it could be used to ‘dry’ solvents and other chemicals.
Jesse Hicks It doesn’t mix with water, so is unlikely to remove water already under components; the ideal drying agent readily mixes with water and so carries it away in the bulk of fluid, allowing the small quantity solvent remaining to then cleanly evaporate leaving no residue. Acetone (lab grade, not the stuff available to the public which has additives and bittering agents to dissuade accidental ingestion) has long been in laboratory glassware for this purpose, but it isn’t safe to use on electronics as it dissolves many plastics and adhesives used in electronic devices (it dissolves the adhesive used to bond the circuit board (PCB) together for example).
@@Bin216 Exactly, it doesn't mix. Place a wet phone in the bottom of a container of the dry water, it should displace the normal water/ liquid, pushing that to the top of the container. Of course by the time you try such, the normal water may have wreaked its havok, though there have been lucky among us.
@@MaddJakd Normal water will not "wreak havoc" on electronics as long as it is pure. Pure water is a non-conductor and will evaporate in time leaving no residue.
Hmmmmm
been subed and watching for years now, REALLY love every video you make, thank you ever so much.
My boy Thoisoi just wants to educate the masses and ya gotta respect it.
The smartphone got a really amazing LIVE WALLPAPER 😂
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Your accent is such an important part of this channel !
I know what I say is sad but... honest 😅
Yes 😂😂his accent is very different
He is a russian ,and he is speaking english just for us ,and i think his accent is well to do very good for even a non englishmen to understand.
Sanjeev Kumar
I do agree ☝🏻 I was just meaning that my ears are kinda addict to his accent, which is cool !
Edit : I’m french and I understand well enough when he talks 👍🏻
@@SanjeevKumar-sz8sm We have the german version of SlivkiShow with us. He also does the russian/ukrainian accent
it's annoyin as hell
_Satisfying to watch the bubbles near the processor 🤗👌🏻_
One of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen.
I love your accent! It really adds a lot of character to your videos.
I had planed to make an inordinate number of jokes about this, 'D R Y' water afterall. But then you presented your topic and I actually was impressed. No jokes, this was great.
Reminds me of R11. We used to use that to clean parts until they stopped making it.
what is R11 man
@@IX_C__AmoghBSVPS R11 is trichloromonofluoromethane a CFC refrigerant that is liquid at room temps and used to be used to flushing units and parts cleaning but it outlawed now.
Good ole vapor baths...
I would love to see dry water being poured onto Teflon (PTFE - Polytetrafluorethylene). It should wet it and stick to it, unlike every other liquid.
So if you put a water that doesn't stick to anything with surface that didn't stick to anything it sticks? cool
You wouldn't expect someone to do a topic about dry water in a TH-cam video while also putting his smartphone and pouring it onto a motherboard while putting the PC at maximum stress. Great content like always thoisoi!!!!
Your videos are amazing! So much to learn! Vrey interesting to know how earths elements reacts and behave. Ive learned alot by watching your videos.
1:25 He says Novec 449, Text on image says Novec 649
Ya
Well, English is not his main language, as You might guess.
@@TheMrbunGee That might make a difference for anything but numbers.
Still, he is only human. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time.
@@IronEchoX when it is written - yes, when it is said - It does not matter if they are numbers or not, still completely different language.
@@TheMrbunGee You are correct. However, I still think this is more of an accidental goof rather than an inability to find the right word.
Imagine being in a hot tub of this bad boy
Acute respirarory system failure time!
I wouldn't be very hot because its boiling temperature is around 40degC
@@loleq2137 maybe with an air tank
@@AxielFan it'll still be cool
@@AxielFan Therefore, you'd feel quite cool actually. Same thing that happens with Acetone.
In general, if It has a boiling point higher than water it feels warm on your skin (like Glycerine), otherwise it feels cool
This was amazing, learn something new everyday I guess!
This was better than any advertisement for dry water. I'm sold.
3:44 He said that backwards.
The left one is dry and the right one is wet. 🤔
cameras flip everything
So I'm wondering if water floats on top of this stuff than if you got your phone wet with water and wanted to try and save it, could you submerge it in a tall vessel of this stuff to force the water out?
it doesn't bond with anything, so any water that is stuck inside or underneath a transistor is just going to stay there. what you need to do is use a hydrophillic fluid that also has high volatility. typically that's an alcohol.
@@thomasneal9291 what does bonding have to do with displacing water?
"So, I think that video was useful for you." Yes, yes it was.
just imagine walking into your friends house, and they have that PC setup on their desk, running CS:GO...
must be playing 4 different sessions on csgo at the same time
This belongs to pfas a large family of harmful chemicals have been banned. Don't play with it. Though the safety data sheet says no acute toxicity but it has long term effects
This is fascinating especially the part where the vapor is heavier than air and how it literally looks exactly like a liquid but it's not a liquid it's just the vapor it moves just like a liquid The Vapor does it's fascinating
The Nexus 5 is seven years old now.
the test-pc too probably
@@crazyylife I did... I also want to thank @Dave D'Video Maker for the comment
I'm pretty sure this video is also old, it's just a translation.
It was made a month ago.
@Chris Mine bro i was not being rude i did not watched whole video so that time i did not know why he wrote that comment and also i was frustrated that's why i wrote that reply😅
"Don't do this, it's dangerous"
- Borat
i thought it was clickbait after seeing the thumbnail 😂😂
His accent and way he makes is videos is very satisfying. I could sleep to these.
I expected this to be kind of a clickbait, but very cool video!
Nice experiments and good explanations!
“Dry water” sounds like ice
8:30 you just performed an extraction!
Omg yes
This ultimately answers the question "Is water wet"
No it doesn't because even on a molecular skill the object still got a little of it. Also it is not 100 percent h20. It's a little different. If I can poor more of itself on it and it does not cover the object or soak in it. Than it is not wet. Liquid is liquid. It's called dry water because it wipes of easy. It's not exact characteristics. It's similar but that doesn't mean exact
If the letters say it's not h20. Than it's not regular water dry water is similar to water even though it's not completely h20 only that's why we say water it consist of it but thats not it's total chemical outcome
I often think about the water sprinklers at work, and the cardboard boxes of stuff on top of our shelves. No idea if this is what we've got, but neat!
I love all your videos! Can you make a video detailing what elements can be found in electronics! It would be so cool to check off elements on the periodic table. The table of elements can be used as a checklist! Gold-Check,Aluminum-check, iridium- check and so on! As you find elements in capacitors and other computer components you could check them off the table of elements! It would be so cool to see how many elements can be found in the everyday PC or laptop!
Thank you for all your hard work!
Channels like this should get a payment from international organisations for the positive benefits to society. I studied Physics and Chemistry at A-Level (16-18 education in the UK) but now understand so much more about the 'real application' of both sciences thanks to Thoisoi and similar channels. I wish they were around during my educational days! 🤓
ACTUALLY: Most excess heat was not escaping through the walls but through evaporation.
He sounds like idubbbz when he does his strange voice
Hah yeah
its good to see a cool science video like this that is 1 month old and not 10 years old with poor quality
Thank you for speaking English in your videos, I only speak English and would miss this fascinating information otherwise!
Gordon memes: the water is dry
I didn't believe a single thing until now
The smoke just F~L~O~A~T~S
glad to hear borat got work after his films
Very interesting. Could be also interesting to see the freezing point of the dry water.
Very entertaining video. Thank you so much for making this... much appreciated!
"Make your phones waterproof easily" videos coming soon 😅
Kinda what I was thinking, let the scams begin! 😂😂
Genius.
Only Russian who's crazy enough to put a whole motherboard into dry water 🤣🤣🤣
he said it is like 3m novec, and this is also used be german overclocker der8auer for cooling the entire pc while underwater
@@Amelie12 a few people have done it.
@@kalmansandor5930 did you... not watch the video?
Boris will do it at some point
@@DylanMcMullen did you... not use your brains?
"Hydrogen Flouride"
You mean Hydroflouric acid? That's some SERIOUSLY nasty stuff...
Hydrogenfluoride is a gas. It's molecules consist of a hydrogen atom and a fluor atom. Hydroflouric acid is a solution of Hydrogenfluoride in water.
@@blackbird2901 Water such as that inside your respiratory system, for instance.
@@_tyrannus that is true and partially why Hydrogenfluoride is so problematic.
But during the chemical reaction of dry water under UV light you will get Hydrogenfluoride, not the acid. Hydrofluoric acid as a liquid would be a lot easier to handle....
@@blackbird2901 What I meant is that hydrogen fluoride reacts with moisture in the air and your lungs forming hydrofluoric acid, just like SO2 and NOX form sulfuric and nitric acid respectively.
You're a likeable guy showing interesting stuff. I'm gonna subscribe.
One of your best clips. Ty for making it.
With the lots and lots of anomalies of regular water, I would say the strangest liquid on Earth is H2O!
Everybody who watch this channel, please give a Like and then watch. Really appreciate the effort he puts in making such a great content.
Why do I feel like listening to Borat?
Hy I'm from India , and I ❤️ this trick to understand about elements easily. 👍Pls post more video's continuously... Me waiting. ❤️❤️Frm 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Seeing you put that liquid on your hand reminds me of the case of Karen Wetterhahn and the two drops of dimethylmercury that fell on her gloved hand. Horrifying stuff.