Thank you for making this video (and thanks to TH-cam algorithm for putting it in my feed)! As a musician, I must say that it's such a great analysis of pieces with all the detail you put and the pleasant music in the background! As Francis Bacon said, "knowledge is power", and videos like this are essential for knowledge in the 21st century! *Edit:* Actually, the quote is attributed to Thomas Hobbes, but Bacon said something similar. If you're a philosopher and are reading this comment, please forgive me. I haven't studied philosophy since I graduated from high school.
I’m having a hard time finding the “marche orientale” by Wilhelm Goldner anywhere - is this listed correctly or is there a full recording somewhere? I would really love to hear the whole piece
Harika iş! Türk marşlarını Mozart ve Beethoven dışında da derlemeniz çok hoş olmuş. Başka besteciler de bestelemese de türk marşlarının en büyük katkısı senfonilerde aşina olduğunuz davul (timpani) türk marşlarındsn ilhamla dahil edilmesi olabilir. Aralarında tabii ki benim favori Beethoven athena harabeleri :)) Liszt'in bunla alakalı transkripsiyonu var bakabilirsiniz. Ritmik olarak en çok Mozart ve Beethoven yakın bence. Bunun iki bestecinin Türk kültürünün Avrupa'da yayılmasından ve Mozart'ın en azından bir kere mehter marşlarını duyumsamasından olduğunu düşünüyorum. Fakat melodik olarak son ikisi daha yakın, özellikle Ivanov'un parçası Türk ezgilerine daha yakın. Sonuncu parça da Türk melodilerine aşina olmuş bir bestecinin elinden çıktığı belli oluyor.
Thank you! It definitely makes sense that the pieces in the middle to late 19th century were the furthest from sounding authentic. The Turkish bands apparently weren’t in vogue at that time, and composers typically did not treat folk material as seriously or realistically as they did in the 20th century. I appreciated hearing your perspective on this. Very cool that we have the Turkish to thank for drums and cymbals in the orchestra!
J'ai bien l'impression après avoir écouté toutes ces marches turques que le prélude en G mineur OP 23 de Rachmaninov pourrait aussi bien faire partie de cette sélection car elle les ressemble dans la forme et la rythmique.
Bir Türk olarak teşekkür ediyorum.İlk ikisi dışındakileri hiç duymamıştım
Excellent work! Both the presentation and performance! I love this channel more and more with each upload 😂
Thank you, so happy to hear that from you!
Great idea to demo each music with an instrument of its own era. Loved it!
Thank you! that was a very instructive lesson that I enjoyed very much!
Glad to hear, thanks for watching!
0:50 El chavo del ocho!!
de ahi se basa el tema y la cancion del chavo proviene de Perrey The Elephant Never Forgets
one of the best music channels ngl
Really interesting. I was aware of the orientalism as style in western classical music, but I never considered the Turkish March as a "genre".
Thank you for making this video (and thanks to TH-cam algorithm for putting it in my feed)! As a musician, I must say that it's such a great analysis of pieces with all the detail you put and the pleasant music in the background!
As Francis Bacon said, "knowledge is power", and videos like this are essential for knowledge in the 21st century!
*Edit:* Actually, the quote is attributed to Thomas Hobbes, but Bacon said something similar. If you're a philosopher and are reading this comment, please forgive me. I haven't studied philosophy since I graduated from high school.
I’m having a hard time finding the “marche orientale” by Wilhelm Goldner anywhere - is this listed correctly or is there a full recording somewhere? I would really love to hear the whole piece
I found the score through IMSLP, I doubt it has been recorded before, though: imslp.org/wiki/Marche_orientale%2C_Op.28_(Goldner%2C_Wilhelm)
good video
Harika iş! Türk marşlarını Mozart ve Beethoven dışında da derlemeniz çok hoş olmuş. Başka besteciler de bestelemese de türk marşlarının en büyük katkısı senfonilerde aşina olduğunuz davul (timpani) türk marşlarındsn ilhamla dahil edilmesi olabilir. Aralarında tabii ki benim favori Beethoven athena harabeleri :)) Liszt'in bunla alakalı transkripsiyonu var bakabilirsiniz. Ritmik olarak en çok Mozart ve Beethoven yakın bence. Bunun iki bestecinin Türk kültürünün Avrupa'da yayılmasından ve Mozart'ın en azından bir kere mehter marşlarını duyumsamasından olduğunu düşünüyorum. Fakat melodik olarak son ikisi daha yakın, özellikle Ivanov'un parçası Türk ezgilerine daha yakın. Sonuncu parça da Türk melodilerine aşina olmuş bir bestecinin elinden çıktığı belli oluyor.
Thank you! It definitely makes sense that the pieces in the middle to late 19th century were the furthest from sounding authentic. The Turkish bands apparently weren’t in vogue at that time, and composers typically did not treat folk material as seriously or realistically as they did in the 20th century. I appreciated hearing your perspective on this. Very cool that we have the Turkish to thank for drums and cymbals in the orchestra!
J'ai bien l'impression après avoir écouté toutes ces marches turques que le prélude en G mineur OP 23 de Rachmaninov pourrait aussi bien faire partie de cette sélection car elle les ressemble dans la forme et la rythmique.
Yes, although I think the direct inspiration was Schumann's Humoreske. m.th-cam.com/video/ps8rBGbNQtA/w-d-xo.html