Excellent production for a local television station. Much higher quality, research, and presentation than I had expected. Thank you very much for doing this.
Lost a school friend on the Fitzgerald . We still love you and will always remember you Bruce Hudson . Especially every time this sad song is played ✌️🥹🎶💕💙🌎🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲
if my information is correct, no one is allowed to dive to the Fitzgerald anymore, as the Canada deem the sight an Grave Yard for all the ones that died that night.
As they all should be if life was lost on the vessel. But I think once found and documented and surveyed for positive Identifying and looking for cause of sinking and damages it should then be left alone and not used as a recreational diving site.
You might find this interesting They have gone back with GPS and looked up the location of the wreck of the Fitzgerald and the forward part of the ship is in American Waters
I produced a documentary for PBS of an underwater archaeology study of the Rockaway, a 100 year old wreck of a scow schooner just north of South Haven in Lake Michigan. Fascinating!! Crew rescued by rowing Coast Guard boat in two trips over a mile from harbor before it sank.
Who else is here waiting for BigOlBoats or Maritime Disasters to find this vid and go over some of the wrecks in more details? I love learning what happened so the sailors memeories live on. ❤😊
You guys should come down to Cuba Lake near Ithaca new York. And in trouble that there's a lot of shipwrecks there too and you might find other things that might be very interesting.
How cool would be to look for treasures like old ships? How satifying to get paid to investigate and hunt these hidden treasured every day. Alot of work with very small windows for celebration. But how amazing those small windows would be? Just the History alone?
FYI you can dive 500 feet in Michigan my sister was one of the rescue divers on the Bradley . The dive master was breathing 8 different gasses to get there ! I have it on DVD it's quite impressive
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot "The legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee. The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy. With a load of iron ore, 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the gales of November came early. The ship was the pride of the American side, coming back from some mill in Wisconsin. As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most, with a crew and good captain well seasoned. Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms, when they left fully loaded for Cleveland, and later that night, when the ship's bell rang, could it be the North wind they'd been feelin'? The wind in the wires made a tattle stale sound, and a wave broke over the railing. And every man knew, as the captain did too, twas the witch of November come stealin'. The dawn came late, and the breakfast had to wait when the gales of November came slashin'. When afternoon came, it was freezin' rain in the face of a hurricane west wind. When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin', 'Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya!' At 7 PM, a main hatch way caved in, he said, 'Fellas, it's been good to know ya.' The captain wired in he had water comin' in, and the good ship and crew was in peril. And later that night, when his lights went outta sight, came wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay, if they'd put 15 more miles behind her. They might've split up, or they might've capsized. They may have broke deep and took water, and all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives, and the sons, and the daughters. Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings in the rooms of her ice-water mansion, old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams. The islands and bays are for sportsmen, and farther below Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her, and the iron boats go, as the mariners all know, with the gales of November remembered. In a musty old hall in Detroit, they prayed in the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral. The church bell chimed till it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. The legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee. Superior, they said, never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early.🎼🎵🎶" Let's not forget this!
The Fitz is in Canadian waters. They don't issue any dive permits. If you dive on it anyway, the fine for doing it is %1,000,000! It is considered a grave, let them rest in peace!
I believe that the sentence should read "An estimated 6,000 ships HAVE SUNK in the [Great] Lakes" If using SANK it should read "The ships SANK in the Great Lakes." Whoever wrote the titles has included many other grammatical errors besides the aforementioned one.
hey Rick..... I heard Your theory for why the big Fitz sank on a different TH-cam video that you were in. You said that the water that weighed her down most likely came from topside and that you don't think they scraped bottom. This was backed up by the fact that experts said if she Did ground out, she could not have continued on as long as she did meaning she would have sunk much more quickly. My question is, if that was the case? how and why did the fence rail go down and what created the list and lost the vents covers. To me, it makes perfect sense that they just nicked the bottom on the starboard side only rupturing a tank or two while going over six fathom shoal. Just as Cptn. Cooper said in his interview, they were closer than he would like to be and that just rubbing the shoal would have been sufficient force to hog the ship enough to snap the fence rail as well as create the list and blast two vent covers off due to the instant and immense change in pressure from the sudden but silent impact. This also makes sense because it was directly after passing over six fathom shoal that Cptn McSorley radioed the damage to the crew of the Anderson.
It's so tacky and blastphemous calling everything hard to find, the Holy Grail. 🙄 It's a fad that was started by degenerates as anti-Christian rhetoric/propaganda. "OY VEY they know, shut it down, shut it down!" > 🤭
0:18 Hold on- this is produced by an official ABC broadcast station and their intro says "An estimated 6,000 ships have SANK in the lakes?!?!?!" SERIOUSLY?!?!?! SANK? The proper word here is "SUNK."
Sank is the past tense (e.g., the ship sank to the bottom of the sea). Sunk is the past participle, so it’s used in the perfect tenses (e.g., the ship has sunk to the bottom of the sea) and as an adjective (the sunk ship is at the bottom of the sea)
I don't know about having a ship called the Water Witch it just sounds like bad luck with a name like that anyway I live on he north shore of Lake Erie and have been interested in great lake wrecks since I was a kid and heard the classic Gordon Lightfoot song and since then have bought books on lake Erie wrecks and on great lake wrecks. I have never dived on a wreck because I started having panic attacks and don't want to risk being 30 feet or more and have an attack so I love watching video's of people diving the wrecks.
I thought this was a pretty good production, I missed the news anchor interrupting, I can also overlook misusing the words sank, sunk, sunken. What gets me is when they call an Excavator a Backhoe, a backhoe is on the back of a tractor and has tires not tracks. Or they call a backhoe or skidder a buldozer. The guy on the set cloths, maybe not the best pick, but I have seen worse. These are all minor infractions.
less than 800 survived on the titanic, 1500 perished. Almost double the Eastland. Do us a huge favor. Use Google. It's not a hard concept. Being so confident in being wrong isn't a good thing. Makes you look incompetent.
Oh my this is really creepy to me! I was married to a sailor and when i would go to take a trip every year onboard ,all that would have to happen to kill me was to push me into that water between the dock and the ship…..id die of fear! Knowing that huge hulking boat was many feet below the surface in that dark creepy water😳😰😱😨…..whew…! Anyway, I was a passenger a few times on the ss armco, ss reserve, ss buckeye and ss Middletown. Anyway, I think it would be just awesome to spend my honeymoon searching for a shipwreck…hell yes….and i really enjoyed the many days id spend on these ships …it was an awesome experience.
Man it drove me crazy where I almost just couldn't watch this because the reporter breaks in talking when the other people are talking he just keeps doing it over and over and over and over and over and it's annoying AF!!!
Corporate greed, non-existent safety standards, poorly maintained, unseaworthy vessels, contempt for storms and high sea states have all contributed to the entirely foreseeable and preventable loss of life of mariners on the Great Lakes! Like the Captain of the Fitzgerald, many had reputations for setting out in bad weather, endangering their vessels and the lives of their Crews to boost their egos. Modern navigation, radar and satellite weather reporting have made things safer, as have maritime legislation, Coast Guard Inspections and a higher standard of ship construction. Safety could have been hugely improved by the stroke of a pen by making company executives and directors personally responsible for the loss of life on their unseaworthy ships! Profits over the lives of the Crew reigned, and major loss of life was seen as being part of the job for Crews! Forcing a Crew to sail an additional voyage in an unseaworthy ship in raging storms isn't profitable when the ship, Crew and cargo lie on the seabed! 30,000 dead Crewmembers is a crime in itself, one which never got solved...
People should realize their meant to live on land. If there's something across the water you want, want something else. Ships are stupid. Learn to live off your own land.
Sank is the past tense (e.g., the ship sank to the bottom of the sea). Sunk is the past participle, so it’s used in the perfect tenses (e.g., the ship has sunk to the bottom of the sea) and as an adjective (the sunk ship is at the bottom of the sea)
Excellent production for a local television station. Much higher quality, research, and presentation than I had expected. Thank you very much for doing this.
I couldn’t image going down with a ship man. Bless them boys. The legend lives on!
Lost a school friend on the Fitzgerald . We still love you and will always remember you Bruce Hudson . Especially every time this sad song is played
✌️🥹🎶💕💙🌎🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲
I just watched a video about someone that owns Bruce's car
if my information is correct, no one is allowed to dive to the Fitzgerald anymore, as the Canada deem the sight an Grave Yard for all the ones that died that night.
As they all should be if life was lost on the vessel. But I think once found and documented and surveyed for positive Identifying and looking for cause of sinking and damages it should then be left alone and not used as a recreational diving site.
Yes. It is protected and very special permits are required.
You might find this interesting They have gone back with GPS and looked up the location of the wreck of the Fitzgerald and the forward part of the ship is in American Waters
I produced a documentary for PBS of an underwater archaeology study of the Rockaway, a 100 year old wreck of a scow schooner just north of South Haven in Lake Michigan. Fascinating!! Crew rescued by rowing Coast Guard boat in two trips over a mile from harbor before it sank.
😊😊
What's the name of your documentary?
Do you have a copy of the Documentary and can it be found on youtube or somewhere online?
@@christyg.8811this is soooo interesting!!
@@79tazmanhe's lying
Thanks for the story
Who else is here waiting for BigOlBoats or Maritime Disasters to find this vid and go over some of the wrecks in more details? I love learning what happened so the sailors memeories live on. ❤😊
Maritime Horrors is freaking amazing.
Two very good channels!!!
Blows my mind, people wouldn’t go to a beach to see a ship over the rona.
How does this only have 72 comments lol. This stuff is so exciting and this was really well made
Quality, not quantity - case in point.
You guys should come down to Cuba Lake near Ithaca new York. And in trouble that there's a lot of shipwrecks there too and you might find other things that might be very interesting.
Wow, they actually found the body on a wreck? That's the first time I've ever heard of that. You figured it'd be gone by now...
Superior doesn't give up it's dead , they calcify due to lack of gases
Awesome honeymoon idea!
Awesome Stories!!
Nice video!
Viewing from northern Illinois
How cool would be to look for treasures like old ships? How satifying to get paid to investigate and hunt these hidden treasured every day. Alot of work with very small windows for celebration. But how amazing those small windows would be? Just the History alone?
Just start looking for sea glass on the Lake Michigan beaches, I’ve found tons of old old glass!! Part of the shipwrecks 🌊
FYI you can dive 500 feet in Michigan my sister was one of the rescue divers on the Bradley . The dive master was breathing 8 different gasses to get there ! I have it on DVD it's quite impressive
Very amazing stories.
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot
"The legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee. The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy. With a load of iron ore, 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the gales of November came early. The ship was the pride of the American side, coming back from some mill in Wisconsin. As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most, with a crew and good captain well seasoned. Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms, when they left fully loaded for Cleveland, and later that night, when the ship's bell rang, could it be the North wind they'd been feelin'? The wind in the wires made a tattle stale sound, and a wave broke over the railing. And every man knew, as the captain did too, twas the witch of November come stealin'. The dawn came late, and the breakfast had to wait when the gales of November came slashin'. When afternoon came, it was freezin' rain in the face of a hurricane west wind. When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin', 'Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya!' At 7 PM, a main hatch way caved in, he said, 'Fellas, it's been good to know ya.' The captain wired in he had water comin' in, and the good ship and crew was in peril. And later that night, when his lights went outta sight, came wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay, if they'd put 15 more miles behind her. They might've split up, or they might've capsized. They may have broke deep and took water, and all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives, and the sons, and the daughters. Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings in the rooms of her ice-water mansion, old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams. The islands and bays are for sportsmen, and farther below Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her, and the iron boats go, as the mariners all know, with the gales of November remembered. In a musty old hall in Detroit, they prayed in the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral. The church bell chimed till it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. The legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee. Superior, they said, never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early.🎼🎵🎶"
Let's not forget this!
Yeah there are many Wrecks on the great lakes the Edmund Fitzgerald is the most famous I think everyone knows it's story
Gorgon lightfoot is a pagan idolitrist who knows NOTHING of the "love of God".
Social distance yourself when you're in the water boys 7:10 Don't want to give kova to the fishes
The Water Witch may be made of wood, but the name sure sounds metal.🤘
Ghey
Towards the end of the video. I thought it was so cool seeing the Liquor prohibited sign in the one wreck from the 1920s
Jeez, did the guy hosting this get dressed in the dark. LOL
😂😂😂😂
Sharp. Great video
“13” must signify the age of the editor. Could you put any more narrator cuts in? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
29:04 Desecration (i guess) will not be tolerated. Bringing liquor aboard is strictly forbidden. That's not a sailor's life.😆
Lived on the shores of Superior for years, everyone knows you don't take chances on the lake.
Any whereabouts information on Paule of London and Patience?
Are we ever going to be able to get rid of all the zebra muscles?
It doesnt seem like it or the gobies now😂
hell yea !!
Respect❤
Was the Pestigo named after Pestigo, wis? That was the town burned out during a massive forest fire many years before.
The Fitz is in Canadian waters. They don't issue any dive permits. If you dive on it anyway, the fine for doing it is %1,000,000! It is considered a grave, let them rest in peace!
It's too bad that 2 of the 9 were originally incorrectly identified (It happens) and are no longer believed to be the ships named in this documentary.
half mountain: a hillock. creepy, finding cadavers at the bottom.
I believe that the sentence should read "An estimated 6,000 ships HAVE SUNK in the [Great] Lakes" If using SANK it should read "The ships SANK in the Great Lakes." Whoever wrote the titles has included many other grammatical errors besides the aforementioned one.
hey Rick..... I heard Your theory for why the big Fitz sank on a different TH-cam video that you were in. You said that the water that weighed her down most likely came from topside and that you don't think they scraped bottom. This was backed up by the fact that experts said if she Did ground out, she could not have continued on as long as she did meaning she would have sunk much more quickly. My question is, if that was the case? how and why did the fence rail go down and what created the list and lost the vents covers.
To me, it makes perfect sense that they just nicked the bottom on the starboard side only rupturing a tank or two while going over six fathom shoal. Just as Cptn. Cooper said in his interview, they were closer than he would like to be and that just rubbing the shoal would have been sufficient force to hog the ship enough to snap the fence rail as well as create the list and blast two vent covers off due to the instant and immense change in pressure from the sudden but silent impact. This also makes sense because it was directly after passing over six fathom shoal that Cptn McSorley radioed the damage to the crew of the Anderson.
How many Holy Grails are there? 😂
It's so tacky and blastphemous calling everything hard to find, the Holy Grail. 🙄 It's a fad that was started by degenerates as anti-Christian rhetoric/propaganda.
"OY VEY they know, shut it down, shut it down!" >
🤭
0:18 Hold on- this is produced by an official ABC broadcast station and their intro says "An estimated 6,000 ships have SANK in the lakes?!?!?!" SERIOUSLY?!?!?! SANK? The proper word here is "SUNK."
Sank is the past tense (e.g., the ship sank to the bottom of the sea). Sunk is the past participle, so it’s used in the perfect tenses (e.g., the ship has sunk to the bottom of the sea) and as an adjective (the sunk ship is at the bottom of the sea)
Fake coffee = Sanka
Be better without the constant reminders of covid
Plandemic
These talking heads sound entirely too happy to be talking about these poor dead men... Inappropriate and disrespectful. Thumbs definitely down.
Tackenote= iron ore mixed w corn starch...
Did anyone else notice him accidentally say there were 20 million crew members at 1:32
Have sunk…
Trainers with a blazer and tie????..? Lord, lord!
Welcome to pur gteat lakes. This is great history. That lake it rough at times
Slay
God do I hate zebra mussels.....
You earned a big fat thumbs down for repeatedly squawking about covid, as if it were realm
Why is the dialogue so... Awkwardly cut together in this presentation...?
I don't care for some of the interrupting narration. Otherwise 😊pretty good.
A lot of good content.
I don't know about having a ship called the Water Witch it just sounds like bad luck with a name like that anyway I live on he north shore of Lake Erie and have been interested in great lake wrecks since I was a kid and heard the classic Gordon Lightfoot song and since then have bought books on lake Erie wrecks and on great lake wrecks. I have never dived on a wreck because I started having panic attacks and don't want to risk being 30 feet or more and have an attack so I love watching video's of people diving the wrecks.
I thought this was a pretty good production, I missed the news anchor interrupting, I can also overlook misusing the words sank, sunk, sunken.
What gets me is when they call an Excavator a Backhoe, a backhoe is on the back of a tractor and has tires not tracks.
Or they call a backhoe or skidder a buldozer.
The guy on the set cloths, maybe not the best pick, but I have seen worse.
These are all minor infractions.
Why is the host wearing that ?????????????? 😂😂😂
Wheres all the fish? The great lakes looks fishless?!
There are 68 fish species in Lake Michigan. Tons of fish.
In 1915, almost 850 people died, more than in the Titanic, when the Eastland capsized in Chicago.
You know google is a thing right? Almost 1500 died on the titanic only 844 died on that. I swear you people are lazy for no reason.
less than 800 survived on the titanic, 1500 perished. Almost double the Eastland. Do us a huge favor. Use Google. It's not a hard concept. Being so confident in being wrong isn't a good thing. Makes you look incompetent.
Oh my this is really creepy to me! I was married to a sailor and when i would go to take a trip every year onboard ,all that would have to happen to kill me was to push me into that water between the dock and the ship…..id die of fear! Knowing that huge hulking boat was many feet below the surface in that dark creepy water😳😰😱😨…..whew…! Anyway, I was a passenger a few times on the ss armco, ss reserve, ss buckeye and ss Middletown. Anyway, I think it would be just awesome to spend my honeymoon searching for a shipwreck…hell yes….and i really enjoyed the many days id spend on these ships …it was an awesome experience.
Kind of obnoxiously edited guys lol The newscaster audio parts that is. Cool video none the less
Get It done huh. Looks like Donald was taking out to me
Man it drove me crazy where I almost just couldn't watch this because the reporter breaks in talking when the other people are talking he just keeps doing it over and over and over and over and over and it's annoying AF!!!
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Very interesting! 🤙💦
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Haven’t seen a single fish that scares me no vegetation lots of muscles no fish hmm?
Calling things "holy grail" that aren't the Holy Grail is really ignorant. Likewise calling medicinal erb "weed". 🙄
Lol Really? It bothers you that much? 😅
@@bbrasky5114 I pitty anyone too ignorant to not be bothered by it.
Blaming two stowaways seams a bit much..
coof is fiction
Find the Britannic
In the bottom of the seas
A shipwreck is found in last place you look for it.
Unless your Bob Ballard and they're usually in the first place you look.
It broke in half.
you couldnt have paid me enough to work on a whale back.
The back and forth interrupting sentences is so annoying. Who thought that was a good idea??
Hope the guy who investigated the Fitz had permission to do so.
Corporate greed, non-existent safety standards, poorly maintained, unseaworthy vessels, contempt for storms and high sea states have all contributed to the entirely foreseeable and preventable loss of life of mariners on the Great Lakes!
Like the Captain of the Fitzgerald, many had reputations for setting out in bad weather, endangering their vessels and the lives of their Crews to boost their egos.
Modern navigation, radar and satellite weather reporting have made things safer, as have maritime legislation, Coast Guard Inspections and a higher standard of ship construction.
Safety could have been hugely improved by the stroke of a pen by making company executives and directors personally responsible for the loss of life on their unseaworthy ships!
Profits over the lives of the Crew reigned, and major loss of life was seen as being part of the job for Crews!
Forcing a Crew to sail an additional voyage in an unseaworthy ship in raging storms isn't profitable when the ship, Crew and cargo lie on the seabed!
30,000 dead Crewmembers is a crime in itself, one which never got solved...
ENGLISH GRAMMAR CHECK: Correction: "ships have sunk" or "ships sank", NOT "ships have sank". That's 4th grade English!
Your editing style is atrocious. Good informative video though
Not Great Lakes ship wrecks..it’s Michigan ship wrecks
it’s so annoying how they keep narrating with 2-6 words like just let the people you’re interviewing speak
Over here by lake Eire here we call those big ones keepers. But you don't got to marry them😊
People should realize their meant to live on land.
If there's something across the water you want, want something else.
Ships are stupid.
Learn to live off your own land.
Really????? Then why did Jesus go out fishing with Peter???
"Have sunk", not "have sank". Get hooked on phonics before you start writing your narrative. And while you're at it, get hooked on Garanimals as well.
Sank is the past tense (e.g., the ship sank to the bottom of the sea). Sunk is the past participle, so it’s used in the perfect tenses (e.g., the ship has sunk to the bottom of the sea) and as an adjective (the sunk ship is at the bottom of the sea)