Good review. I just got a 2023 M10 Rise but it came with the smaller battery 360W. I feel that the battery is fine for 90% of my rides. I've been able to do 25+ mile with over 2500' elevation and having over 50-65% battery left at the end of my rides. When I go on more epic rides I'll get the battery extender for a total of 612W capacity. This way on most of my rides it has the lower weight. Also if anyone is wondering about not having any display on the bike just 3 colors on the controller, this was the only negative I have for this bike. I was able to get the info displayed on my Garmin watch. It's perfect, I can see how much battery % is left, what mode I'm in, speed and assistant percentage. This works perfect for me.
Awesome review. Sharp, to the point, conscise. Love it. Im on the earlier Rise M20 and you have saved my day, and my bank balance, as I dont run out of battery, whew. I bought mine used at 1/2 retail for the 021 model. I would never spring AUD15k for a pushbike, that is motorbike money.
@@BikersEdgeKaysvilleyou absolutely nailed it with this one bro . I had the M10 2021 and I literally JUST bought the 2023 Rise M10 it’s 💯 better than, it’s just a bit more Chucky , the 540W battery 🔋 is amazing and guess what? I paid 4k for the 21 bike and 3.8K for the 2023! Brand new! Amazing 🤩
This is the bike I want to purchase for my wife to get her up on the trails again. She has a bulged disc that gets aggravated when pedaling up hill (she can play tennis totally fine, it's sitting and climbing). I just wish the prices weren't more than a moto, but I get the current stupid bike market, I just don't like it. Sweet looking bike, they certainly have made it better. Thanks Conner!
Still love my Rise but if I were to get a new bike I thing it would be one with the new Pinion MGU. For me a sealed motor/gearbox is next-gen ebike. That would be what it would take to warrant an upgrade.
I am loving the feel of the Alu frame on my 2022 RISE H15, with the right brakes & tires (to choose from the options) makes it a a solid playful capable bike
Got a h15 too (last march). Tons of range. Did put on Continental Cryptotal tires and slx brakes with 200mm full steel rotors from Magura. A stiffer back linkage would be nice. 👍 We will see if it is build to last.
Not to forget that if you get the range extender you get a monster battery basically 800 wh without much of a weight penalty allowing you to basically do almost every ride on turbo mode!
As a long time mtb rider/racer I finally ordered my first e-mtb. Got the '23 Rise M LTD and can't wait till it gets here. I'm 59 y/o so the "e" part of it is gonna be nice. I did order it with the 540W battery since I got it for only 80 bucks more and it only ads little over 1 1/2 lbs more. I thought for sure you were gonna tell us in this vid how far and long you rode (you said boost mode the whole time, right?) and how much battery was left. Do you remember these things by chance?? Regardless I don't think I will ever ride far/long enough to come close to draining this 540W battery...I think
Go check out our lightweight emtb showdown on the main channel. We’ve got the battery numbers with range and elevation in that video. I don’t remember off the top of my head and don’t want to tell you wrong.
What a GREAT to the point review. Thanks 👍💥💥. As a ‘21 M10 owner this is exactly what I wanted to hear and see in terms of salient reasons to upgrade- or not! 540 wh… hell yes! PS- what was that amazing trail? BC ? Pacific NW?
For me that had a 2021 version and now a 2023 is the absence of rattling the major difference and also the agility of the bike that is better in 2023 model!
Thanks for the review! How many miles were you able to get on your ride? How much does it weight? I have the Alum version (H20 Hydro), and can Ascend 12 Miles/5000 FT with 2-3 Bars left. I weight 165Lbs and in average shape. I also ride with the power off with when riding with my non electric riding group - its very rid. Is the Carbon worth the extra money v.s. the Aluminum?
Thats a beautiful bike and i hear they ride incredibly well. Only issue for me is the headset cable routing, i cant look past that but I'm sure others are fine with it.
However, the range extender gives you an extra 250 kWH of power and it sells for less than $1000, so that might be a more economical option than upgrading the whole bike. I have the 2021 Rise with the range extender. I get 610 kWH of power with that combination. It's great.
Great review on your 2023 Orbea Rise! My Rise H10 20MPH - 540Wh was a game changer. Question, my motor are Shimano EP8-RS, can I upgrade the new motor to EP801?
you forgot to mention the range extenders, i have 2, one on the bike, the other in my backpack, i went from Nice to Napels, 100km every day unrestricted (85nm) and this with the 1st model :) with this newish one i would have a total of 1044 WH :), but, i will wait some more, i would like to be able to swap out the main battery, and only put the biggest one in when i go on vacation
i want to get me this bike through my job... i hope they still got it on sale when my job actually finished the paper work... u forgot one big upgrade... shimano autoshift !!!!!! and the range extender...
I wonder if the rear linkage has been improved. I remember checking the previous Rise on the trail, the owner had it for about a year and you could move the rear wheel sideways in each direction by a centimeter or more.
Fantastic review I’ve never ridden an e-bike - excuse my ignorance, but when you say, are you concerned about range, does that mean if it runs out of battery it’s impossible to pedal manually?
I assume you were riding an XL? Did it feel just right or a little on the bigger side? I’m 6’1” and ride an XL Tallboy v4 (490 reach) so think an XL Rise would be the way to go. I like my bikes on the bigger side. Will try to parking lot demo L vs. XL to confirm.
On the surface, the Rise and the Giant Trance X Adv. Elite seem similarish. (discounting the 85Nm option). How would you describe the ride characteristic differences?
Just bought a new bike the pick was between orbea rise m10 or the new 2023 sl levo comp carbon. I really love the 540 watt battery option on the rise but fuck i just think the rise dosent look good. I choose the SL levo with extender. Just think the sl levo looks so much better
I am the user of this bike and the bike would be perfect but unfortunately the construction of stem/bar and spinlock is defective. One of the elements is made of plastic and is breaking even after minor crash. All the parts used are proprietary and cannot be replaced by common parts and are also unavailable for order causing the bike unrepairable at all.
That part is made out of plastic on purpose to prevent damaging your frame in a crash. Sounds like it worked perfectly. Your LBS should be able to help you get a replacement.
Young healthy people riding ebikes is just sad. What a waste of a young healthy body. Leave the battery at home, you'll have plenty of time to throttle twist when you are 70...
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Yeah, miss out on the challenge and satisfaction of having the strength to pedal up the hill... When you're 60+ you'll long for the days when you could ride up the hill under your own power. (Or maybe you are just a lazy bastard, and won't ever miss it - sad)...
How do you know someone is healthy? Some people look young and healthy but are fighting cancer, a congenital heart issue, or other lifelong illnesses. Some folks have had previous injuries and stuck with pins in their limbs and joints. If they are respectful of the trail and trail riding etiquette... mind your own business, focus on the trail, and save the judgemental attitude for yourself. I'm so sick of needing to deal with loudmouths on the trail who thinks it's ok to give people they don't know shit. Someone riding an eBike near you doesn't greenlight you to become an ass.
Good review. I just got a 2023 M10 Rise but it came with the smaller battery 360W. I feel that the battery is fine for 90% of my rides. I've been able to do 25+ mile with over 2500' elevation and having over 50-65% battery left at the end of my rides. When I go on more epic rides I'll get the battery extender for a total of 612W capacity. This way on most of my rides it has the lower weight. Also if anyone is wondering about not having any display on the bike just 3 colors on the controller, this was the only negative I have for this bike. I was able to get the info displayed on my Garmin watch. It's perfect, I can see how much battery % is left, what mode I'm in, speed and assistant percentage. This works perfect for me.
Love my 2021 m10 rise. My two biggest issues were range and the links on suspension. Looks like a great update
LOVE my Rise. Built up AM style…150/160 with heavier duty parts. Got range extender for bigger days. Small battery is fine for my daily rides.
Such a good versatile bike.
Awesome review. Sharp, to the point, conscise. Love it. Im on the earlier Rise M20 and you have saved my day, and my bank balance, as I dont run out of battery, whew. I bought mine used at 1/2 retail for the 021 model. I would never spring AUD15k for a pushbike, that is motorbike money.
Hey thanks. Glad you liked it.
@@BikersEdgeKaysvilleyou absolutely nailed it with this one bro . I had the M10 2021 and I literally JUST bought the 2023 Rise M10 it’s 💯 better than, it’s just a bit more Chucky , the 540W battery 🔋 is amazing and guess what? I paid 4k for the 21 bike and 3.8K for the 2023! Brand new! Amazing 🤩
This is the bike I want to purchase for my wife to get her up on the trails again. She has a bulged disc that gets aggravated when pedaling up hill (she can play tennis totally fine, it's sitting and climbing). I just wish the prices weren't more than a moto, but I get the current stupid bike market, I just don't like it. Sweet looking bike, they certainly have made it better. Thanks Conner!
Still love my Rise but if I were to get a new bike I thing it would be one with the new Pinion MGU. For me a sealed motor/gearbox is next-gen ebike. That would be what it would take to warrant an upgrade.
The gear box ebike idea is very intriguing.
I am loving the feel of the Alu frame on my 2022 RISE H15, with the right brakes & tires (to choose from the options) makes it a a solid playful capable bike
Solid
Got a h15 too (last march). Tons of range. Did put on Continental Cryptotal tires and slx brakes with 200mm full steel rotors from Magura. A stiffer back linkage would be nice. 👍 We will see if it is build to last.
First! I miss having bikers edge as the local shop since I moved
You can always move back!
Not to forget that if you get the range extender you get a monster battery basically 800 wh without much of a weight penalty allowing you to basically do almost every ride on turbo mode!
Insane range.
Was considering the new Rise but ended up going Trek Fuel EXe because I couldn't find any Rises to demo!
Hey m8, could und Tell me how u like the Trek? im thinking about rise m10 or fuel exe 9.7
Would you prefer the Rise or the Wild when you sometimes also do longer tours on asphalt streets? (many hills but also flat ground).
While neither one is going to be good on the road I’d take the Wild for the power. The eight difference will be less noticeable on pavement.
Any news on the 2024 rise? Would utterly love to hear of any modifications/improvements 😍
be sweet if it was more like the new occam
As a long time mtb rider/racer I finally ordered my first e-mtb. Got the '23 Rise M LTD and can't wait till it gets here. I'm 59 y/o so the "e" part of it is gonna be nice. I did order it with the 540W battery since I got it for only 80 bucks more and it only ads little over 1 1/2 lbs more. I thought for sure you were gonna tell us in this vid how far and long you rode (you said boost mode the whole time, right?) and how much battery was left. Do you remember these things by chance?? Regardless I don't think I will ever ride far/long enough to come close to draining this 540W battery...I think
Go check out our lightweight emtb showdown on the main channel. We’ve got the battery numbers with range and elevation in that video. I don’t remember off the top of my head and don’t want to tell you wrong.
What a GREAT to the point review. Thanks 👍💥💥. As a ‘21 M10 owner this is exactly what I wanted to hear and see in terms of salient reasons to upgrade- or not!
540 wh… hell yes! PS- what was that amazing trail? BC ? Pacific NW?
Good video . How is the sitting position? Is it also suitable for longer journeys?
What is the actual weight?
For me that had a 2021 version and now a 2023 is the absence of rattling the major difference and also the agility of the bike that is better in 2023 model!
Thanks for the review! How many miles were you able to get on your ride? How much does it weight? I have the Alum version (H20 Hydro), and can Ascend 12 Miles/5000 FT with 2-3 Bars left. I weight 165Lbs and in average shape. I also ride with the power off with when riding with my non electric riding group - its very rid. Is the Carbon worth the extra money v.s. the Aluminum?
Thats a beautiful bike and i hear they ride incredibly well.
Only issue for me is the headset cable routing, i cant look past that but I'm sure others are fine with it.
Yeah I'm a little torn on that as well. on one hand it's really clean, on the other it makes maintenance a bit more annoying.
Aluminum doesn't headset route. just the carbon.
However, the range extender gives you an extra 250 kWH of power and it sells for less than $1000, so that might be a more economical option than upgrading the whole bike. I have the 2021 Rise with the range extender. I get 610 kWH of power with that combination. It's great.
Yeah but think of the possibilities of the big battery and the extender. 🤯
Great review on your 2023 Orbea Rise! My Rise H10 20MPH - 540Wh was a game changer. Question, my motor are Shimano EP8-RS, can I upgrade the new motor to EP801?
I think you can, from what I've read it has the same mount
Have you tried this bike with it tuned to get the full 85 nm of torque? It is amazing. Especially with the 540 wh battery and the extender.
how is this possible
you forgot to mention the range extenders, i have 2, one on the bike, the other in my backpack, i went from Nice to Napels, 100km every day unrestricted (85nm) and this with the 1st model :) with this newish one i would have a total of 1044 WH :), but, i will wait some more, i would like to be able to swap out the main battery, and only put the biggest one in when i go on vacation
how did you get 85nm?
i want to get me this bike through my job... i hope they still got it on sale when my job actually finished the paper work... u forgot one big upgrade... shimano autoshift !!!!!! and the range extender...
@BikersEdgeKaysville have you done a video on light weight vs full power eMTB’s? I can’t figure out which way to go.
Yeah. It’s on the main bikers edge channel.
Without any top tube indicator, how do you view battery level? Please don't say from phone only! Great (retail) review, as usual!
The controller has a battery and assist level indicator.
Orbea also have an app for Garmin devices where you can see battery related data etc.
I wonder if the rear linkage has been improved. I remember checking the previous Rise on the trail, the owner had it for about a year and you could move the rear wheel sideways in each direction by a centimeter or more.
Interesting. I put probably close to 2k miles on my old Rise and never had that issue.
The stock wheels are very Noodly!! Switching to a Carbon wheel helped
Wonder if they will switch to the smaller Bosch motor for the next iteration of the Rise to match the Wild…
It would be cool to see.
Was this a custom build as I see the Enve wheels? Curious about their in house brand of carbon hoops Ouqo. Any experience on those?
It’s a regular M10 with the ENVE wheels. I’ve only ridden the Oquo alloy wheels.
Seems this channel is not active anymore? Too bad, good reviews. Only found it now...
We’ve moved all the ebike content back to the main channel. You can find it all on Bikers Edge.
Fantastic review I’ve never ridden an e-bike - excuse my ignorance, but when you say, are you concerned about range, does that mean if it runs out of battery it’s impossible to pedal manually?
Hey thanks! Yup that’s exactly what I mean.
No, you can peddle it swiched off without any resistance, it just feels heavy.
Not all motors offer a resistance-free pedal. The Shimano has some drag even with the battery off.
Any comment on the new Shimano motor versus the older one?
Nothing stood out from a ride quality perspective
I assume you were riding an XL? Did it feel just right or a little on the bigger side? I’m 6’1” and ride an XL Tallboy v4 (490 reach) so think an XL Rise would be the way to go. I like my bikes on the bigger side. Will try to parking lot demo L vs. XL to confirm.
Yes I am riding an XL. Feels right to me. I’m a bit taller than you so your mileage might vary. Parking lot test or demo is a good bet.
I'm 6' and rode both the L and XL. Either would work for me but I preferred the XL, surprisingly. Just felt a little more integrated into the bike.
saving up for this beast ! at 14k its gonna be more expensive then my car
What model? Did you say?
Would you take this over a heckler sl?
Check out our lightweight ebike showdown on the main channel for the answer.
Does anyone would upgrade to the new Rise if you have de old version with a range extender?
I'm not having any luck finding the carbon version with the 540w battery. re you sure that is an option? Thanks
Yes. It’s only available for model year 23. In the customization section you can select either size battery.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville ahh okay. I was looking on Jenson USA’s site and they didn’t give that option. Even on the 23 models
Bad place to look. Bikers Edge is way better! 🤣
@@BikersEdgeKaysville haha I had no idea. I’m sorry. Do you guys have a large M10 with the 540w battery?
We have one. It’s the green one. If you’re interested you can hit up the webchat feature on our website bebikes.com. Tell them you came from TH-cam.
Excellent review
Hey thanks!
On the surface, the Rise and the Giant Trance X Adv. Elite seem similarish. (discounting the 85Nm option). How would you describe the ride characteristic differences?
Ride quality is very different as well as drivesystem. Hang tight for a full video on that one.
Don’t overlook the chainstay length.
They’re within 2mm of each other. Pretty much going to be impossible to tell them apart.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville the CS on the Giant is insane…473mm. Huge difference vs the Rise
On the one the original commenter was referring to (trance elite) it’s 447mm and the Rise is 445mm.
No brainer for 3700? My rides are typically 25 miles, think I need the upgraded battery?
Vertical gain is usually more of the limiting factor than mileage. What kind of vert are you doing on a ride?
@@BikersEdgeKaysville I think around 1 to 2k ft
Depending on your weight you’d probably be ok with the standard smaller battery size.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville awesome, 170
What model is this? CF with bigger battery?
Yeah it’s an M Team with the bigger 540 battery.
What about the Rise vs the Wild?
So different. Tough to compare really.
Did spec this bike have di2 auto change ?
This one didn’t.
Can you mullet this bike?
I’ve heard of people doing it with bearings and links, but no not really - Not without too many compromises.
Just bought a new bike the pick was between orbea rise m10 or the new 2023 sl levo comp carbon. I really love the 540 watt battery option on the rise but fuck i just think the rise dosent look good. I choose the SL levo with extender. Just think the sl levo looks so much better
Sounds like a goldilocks eMTB. Definitely drool worthy.
🤤
I am the user of this bike and the bike would be perfect but unfortunately the construction of stem/bar and spinlock is defective. One of the elements is made of plastic and is breaking even after minor crash. All the parts used are proprietary and cannot be replaced by common parts and are also unavailable for order causing the bike unrepairable at all.
That part is made out of plastic on purpose to prevent damaging your frame in a crash. Sounds like it worked perfectly. Your LBS should be able to help you get a replacement.
pretty outdated geometry :/ even when it was released, it was already outdated :/
Not sure outdated is the correct word. Just not extreme. More conservative.
Man,that's one ugly bike . the frame configuration makes it look broken
To each their own. I think it looks amazing.
Young healthy people riding ebikes is just sad. What a waste of a young healthy body. Leave the battery at home, you'll have plenty of time to throttle twist when you are 70...
Yeah you're right. I'll wait until I'm old before I have fun.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Yeah, miss out on the challenge and satisfaction of having the strength to pedal up the hill... When you're 60+ you'll long for the days when you could ride up the hill under your own power. (Or maybe you are just a lazy bastard, and won't ever miss it - sad)...
@@bikebudha01you are a flog
How do you know someone is healthy? Some people look young and healthy but are fighting cancer, a congenital heart issue, or other lifelong illnesses. Some folks have had previous injuries and stuck with pins in their limbs and joints. If they are respectful of the trail and trail riding etiquette... mind your own business, focus on the trail, and save the judgemental attitude for yourself.
I'm so sick of needing to deal with loudmouths on the trail who thinks it's ok to give people they don't know shit. Someone riding an eBike near you doesn't greenlight you to become an ass.
@@RideShagbark hey asshole, I said "young and healthy"... if someone has cancer, then THEY AREN'T HEALTHY... and it's cool to ride a ebike.