Genesis: 'Foxtrot' - The Dawning of Apocalyptic Prog?
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- BBC Music describes 'Supper's Ready' as apocalyptic prog - but how does this stand up as a sub-genre compared to their contemporaries? Fascinating critique.
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Supper’s Ready is a master piece
I sure hope you'll continue this series on Genesis. As much as I love the two you've covered, SEBTP is still their most interesting and accomplished in my opinion, and I'd like to hear your take on it.
the end of "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" is pretty 'apocalyptic' as well.
it's pretty amazing to thing that these folks were in their early 20's when they created these masterpieces.
I had an 8 track of Foxtrot in the 70's. I played it all the time.
I always thought it to be a cottage industry type of effort. I found it to be charming, and surprisingly powerful in content. I grew up hearing classical music in the house. So, nothing was going to impress me too much from an analytical musical viewpoint in rock music. However, Foxtrot was like a big furry, friendly poke to the brain. Within a year, during that magical time in the 70's, I collected every Genesis album available. Wind and Wuthering had just come out.
Till this day, despite my ultimate passion for great classical orchestral music, Foxtrot still holds a special place in my heart.
Foxtrot is a fantastic album from start to finish. It's great that 'Can-Utility and the Coastliners' - always a favourite of mine - is seemingly gaining more and more fans as the years roll by. And 'Supper's Ready' is, for me, the finest 20 minute prog opus there is.
Foxtrot is the 2nd in Genesis' awesome run of 6 successive brilliant albums, which came to an end with Steve Hackett's sad but perhaps inevitable depart. IMO each of those 6 albums is a masterpiece.
I loved Genesis from career start to career finish, but the Gabriel/Hackett eras were simply magnificent.
This is the perfect Genesis album. From the opening Watcher of the Skies to the massive 23 minute opus Supper's Ready, the album is perfection. It is the blueprint to follow for prog bands. Along with Nursery Cryme, Genesis was heading into uncharted territory with this album and the upcoming Selling England By The Pound. If you want one Genesis album for your collection this is the one to have.
One of THE GREATEST prog albums of all time!! Outstanding dissection and album review by Barry, as always!!! I still struggle to understand why so many people rank the Yes album "Close to the Edge" as the best Prog album, and not one of these amazing Genesis masterpieces!! I love YES, but...
I'm new to Genesis,apart from the songs you hear on the radio this stuff is new to me, I must say it's all quite good, very interesting stuff! The musical box is my favorite so far!
How the music builds at the end of suppers ready, has too be heard too be believe. It is just truly wonderful, when in 72 i heard it age 10, i cried my eyes out as even as a young child I know this was incredible.
Tony Banks once said that Foxtrot was his favorite album among their entire discography. That’s completely understandable.
Hackett's solo in "Can-Utility" is a beauty. I love this album, all of it, but I think that's the most exciting deep cut here.
Just saw Peter Gabriel in Vancouver. There's a guy who artistry has never waned!
What The Rolling Stones’ Beggars Banquet/Let It Bleed/Sticky Fingers/Exile on Main Street was to mainstream rock and Stevie Wonder’s Talking Book/Innervisions/Fulfillingness’s First Finale/Songs in the Key of Life was to R & B, so the Gabriel-Hackett quartet is to prog.
ARH, I hate the way I say the lamb is my favorite Genesis album,
and then I re listen to another album and then think, no this is my favorite !!
I can never win with this band.
Wasn’t this 1972? I do think that King Crimson and Van der Graaf Generator had already started exploring some of the darker and perhaps ‘apocalyptic’ realms of prog rock.
Genesis was the soundtrack of my youth growing up ( in particular foxtrot ) as my dad loved them and played them all the time. I just wish they would do a jethro Tull style box set reissue series of all the albums. Love the channel👌
I agree
My favourite Genesis album. I loves it the most!
Seeing Genesis, Gabriel and Hackett live over the past couple of years has been fantastic. In a similar way that, during the early 80s we could see Rainbow, Gillan and Whitesnake when you couldn’t get the real thing - mk 2 Purple (although 85 changed that) and Gabriel Genesis.
"Foxtrot" is a perfect album. The supreme progressive album of all times.
I love only the Genesis albuns from Banks Era.
I prefer Selling England By The Pound, pastoral prog. Must be why I love Big Big Train so much
Yes! Supper’s Ready!! My favourite all time Genesis song!!!
Without a doubt my favorite Genesis album, and quite possibly my favorite album of any band or artist. I'm still a relative newcomer to Genesis. I traveled backwards through their discography, and in a way it was the early Phil Collins years (A Trick of the Tail, Wind & Wuthering) that taught me how to appreciate the Gabriel era. If you'd asked me six months ago I probably would have told you my favorite album was Selling England By The Pound, and I still do think it's a stunning record, but Foxtrot edges it out. It feels more raw, more unfiltered, and the intensity of the album is off the charts, where Selling England By The Pound sounds more refined, and feels more like a meticulously crafted record. I love the sheer intensity of Foxtrot, with all of its mood swings, in the case of Supper's Ready even within a single track. Supper's Ready is, of course, a masterpiece, and I particularly love the movement around the the 11 minute mark where Gabriel absolutely shines, and then around the 15:20 mark when the song takes on an absolutely MENACING tone. And the majestic controlled apocalyptic chaos of Watcher of the Skies may just be my favorite Genesis track of all time. Absolutely brilliant.
Yes you referenced VDGG, but I would have said Darkness 11/11, White Hammer, and After the Flood from The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other are definitely the vanguard of apocalyptic prog. Not to take anything away from the fantastic record that is Foxtrot.
Foxtrot was certainly a peak for Gabriel's Genesis! I loved this and Nursery! A slight change of direction followed!!
Point taken, but I'd say King Crimson's album In The Court Of The Crimson King was just as much the dawn of apocalyptic rock
Right you are
I guess you could come away from In The Court Of The Crimson King with an apocalyptic message, it is def the birth of prog rock but more open to the listener in terms of interpretation than FoxTrot.
@@1183newman listen to 21st Century Schizoid Man, Epitaph, and Court Of The Crimson King and tell me how those songs can be interpreted as anything other than apocalyptic
Genesis can do no wrong, but I'll give you King Crimson as being at the forefront of prog rock.
You're right. A foundational work of the genre and yet so dark and apocalyptic. The end of '60s optimism.
A 1970 prog album about an environmental 'apocalypse', Goolutionites and the Real People by Tamam Shud. Australian prog is melodic and eshews the excesses of British prog. In excellent condition if you can find one, $2,000 for the album.
Didn’t realise Charles Dance was into music reviews
I had a girlfriend once who used to say I looked like him
Great analysis of my favorite Genesis album. Watcher of the Skies is possibly the best Genesis album opener
I’m going to take out the record now and give it a spin for the next hour…
Well it’s either I do that or sit and suffer through Bayern Munich v Man Utd.
You made the right choice !
Also my favourite, fantastic Genesis album. Love it so much, helped me through a lot misery
KC and VDGG had already done the apocalypse by the time of Foxtrot.
I know, I do point that out in the video.
This is my favorite Geneisis album.
Nursrey Crimes and Selling England by the pound are also great, along with The Lamb. But those albums have filler in my opinion, but i like every track off Foxtrot.
Would it be possible to do a video of UFO and a review of some of their albums? After going through your reviews,I have not seen any mention of the band.
Great work Barry. A fascinating analysis and so articulate. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
VdGG did apocalypse before Foxtrot - After The Flood, Man -Erg, Plague.
Yes, I make that point in the video
bitten by the Genesis bug, eh?
Nursery Cryme is their best album. Foxtrot is too.
I'd say more likely the apex of apocalyptic prog than the dawning.
Barry where did you get that MD shirt?
bought it online
@@classicalbum love it. Foxtrot is great too
^...like some malevolent begonia*
I laughed for nearly a half hour!!!
excellent 🤘🏻
Glad you think so!
First time I was aware of the band maybe late 70s. Some Film footage came on at a Cinema featuring the band before the Main movie started . Suppers Ready freaked me out the way it was presented . Never seen that Film again after that rather brutal introduction to the band..
You can still get the film on dvd. The first tour with Phil on vocals, with the wonderful Bill Bruford on drums, filmed in 1976. You’re right, the Suppers Ready section is outstanding!!
I love every Genesis album from their debut to The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.Everything after that is radio friendly pop known as the Phil Collins Band.
Mmmmm, possibly. I like W&W and ToTT. But after that the slide into pop mediocrity was slow but sure.
I agree and disagree. I agree insofar as I feel like my gustatory intelligence has been gravely offended when anyone ranks either TOTT or WAW over any of the four Gabriel-Hackett albums, but I disagree insofar as I still believe those two are excellent albums.
😂beautifully performed and recorded diana j
Genesis is my favourite progressive rock band (and band in general) because they had something their peers didn't: songs.
Yes were better musicians, but most of their songs seem more about showing off than anything else. And even their best songs aren't "hits".
ELP were even better musicians, but apart from a few sickeningly sentimental ballads by Greg Lake, they mostly just played everything aggressively.
Genesis wrote excellent songs and played exactly what those songs needed. They never showed off. Every note counted.
selling England by the pound as their best…
What happened to music ? We went from -
666 is no longer alone
He's getting out the marrow in your backbone
And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock 'n' roll
Gonna blow right down inside your soul.
To-
Answer the phone
"Harry, you're no good alone
Why are you sittin' at home on the floor?
What kind of pills are you on?"
I feel sorry for the youth of today, they have no idea how powerful music can be,
they seem to be wasting energy by churning out woeful, useless trash, that sits somewhere
between tins of beans and pills from the doctor.
Mike Rutherford is on record a saying that in his opinion Genesis doesn’t have a recognisability defining iconic album, like most other bands do. I, very respectfully, beg to differ. For me, Foxtrot is their iconic album. There isn’t one weak track on it.
I love Supper's Ready with all my heart and forever will, but I'm extremely upset at how Peter Gabriel describes how the song is about two lovers. Two lovers who went through a bad breakup. I'm absolutely confused and don't know what to think about it, is Peter Gabriel joking?
Why be upset? You are free to enjoy and appreciate this wonderful masterpiece any way you want. That is part of the magic of music.
@@chrisgadsby5700 Exactly. The work of art exists independently of the artist who created it.
Best Genesis album. Just wish you’d stop waving your hands about.
Afraid not.. It's the way I am
@@classicalbum No matter. Still enjoy your reviews.
Foxtrot is definitely up there with Genesis greatest albums but as I've always stated it's production is awful & the drums & bass just aren't there & even Tony's keyboards are thin even on the 2007 remasters..... Once you have heard the live songs off this from the same Gabriel period you just can't listen to the album versions again!
No...that would be 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Selling England by the Pound is clearly Better... if we forget More Fool Me.
We Can't Dance has better songs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 That's hilarious
We Can’t Dance certainly has some very good stuff on it but it’s too long and drawn out. If they’d cut twenty three minutes off the running time they’d have had a really classic stripped back 48 minute album. They should have cut Never A Time, Tell Me Why, Hold On My Heart, Way Of The World and Since I Lost You. Those songs could have been released, perhaps along with a few others, on a bonus CD or bonus vinyl disc, in a deluxe version of the album.
As it is, We Can’t Dance is a laborious listen where skipping the songs I’ve mentioned above is what most people do, I’d imagine. I’ve created my own version of the album on my phone on an Apple Music playlist, excluding the above tunes and it all flows much better.
I suppose, at a push, I could leave Hold On My Heart in the playlist just as a nod to Phil’s excellent love song writing skills.
i think Foxtrot definitely inspired prog bands to take the genre in darker territory such as King Crimsons' Red and ELP's Brain Salad Surgery
You think Genesis inspired King Crimson to go dark? I think King Crimson got there first.