Philips days are numbered driving in that manner. You can't drive aggressively and expect everyone else to watch out for you. Mutual respect is required my friend
Hi Brian, Is there a specific clip you are referring to or maybe a more specific explanation? I try to avoid any kind of confrontation due to anxiety, so it would be good to be able to take something constructive away from this to work on. Thanks
The last clip you not only overtook wrecklessly at a junction but you crossed into the oncoming filter lane, 95% of that incident was caused by you driving impatiently and aggressive. Drivers are being urged to think bike but you hiding in a blind spot, overtaking a car carrying out a manoeuvre and crossing into oncoming lanes.
In the last clip the first bike is not myself, that is footage off my friends camera, I am the bike that stopped. The rider you are referring to you are 100% correct in every point, pretty much every single thing he did in that incident is a good example of what not to do.
7:31, lets see how self important "you" are. At 7:31 the black car on the left can see the silver Honda is turning left so starts to enter the roundabout, "you" are behind the Honda which hasn't even entered the roundabout yet. At 7:33 the black car is half way across the roundabout and "you" are still not at the junction. As "you" reach the roundabout the black car is moving across the central white painted island so "you" decide it would be clever to drive at the car and nearly cause an accident. It's not "your" road.
It has been pointed out previously that I was the one who made the mistake here and I agree although approaching a mini roundabout like that knowing that nothing is coming from your right that it is ok to proceed. The black car in question knew I was behind the Honda so I believe they should have waited although I do concede they where on the roundabout first.
Agree 100%. So many drivers think they can do this. The rule is, give way to traffic on the roundabout. Not “come bombing up to the roundabout, expecting everyone else to hang back while you go flying through”. Oh, and at 6:44 yes, you were hogging the middle lane on the Westlink. Not really impressed with your driving, to be honest.
7:32 I´m planning my first vacation in UK, so I'm watching these videos for preparation. One question: in Germany, on a roundabout, the car that enters the roundabout first has the right of way. In the video, the black car coming from the left drives into the roundabout first, but does not have the right of way??? Why ? Is this because this is a very small roundabout?
7:54, for those of you who don't fully understand UK road law. When you are turning right, the first car may enter the junction in order to attempt the turn. When the light turns orange the person in the junction turning right now has full right of way. People in the oncoming lane no longer have right of way thus must stop on orange light if someone is present in junction attempting to turn right.
4:38 Speed is the exact reason he pulled out in front of you. I bet he looked left saw you looked right saw it was clear and pulled out, I bet he has made that turn over 500 times but you were speeding and he assumed that you were not so he is used to people that are that far away not to come up on him that fast and thought he had plenty of time.
Speed definitely a factor in the reason that he pulled out on Phillip but if you examine closely you'll notice that the car doesn't pull up to the junction squarely but at an angle thus making it more difficult to see what was coming from the left and with Phillip being on a motorcycle would be harder to see and they also cut a good chunk off the junction by doing that also. I do agree though speed was a major factor in him nearly having a collision!
Perfectly fair analysis. Yes I was speeding, as you know the speed limit on such a road is 60mph, as you can clearly see I was doing at most 8mph over this. At my slowest speed I am doing 18mph. If I had been doing 50mph, I would still have had to brake hard.
@@phillipadams2671 I wonder what the insurance company and police would have to say about going only 8mph beyond the limit had something gone wrong. Pretty sure both of you would have been found at fault
That last clip, where the bike overtook the left turning car. Correct me if I'm wrong: 1: Bad riding from the motorcyclist, who should have anticipated that this would have happened, and stayed behind the car. 2: Of course, the car shouldn't have pulled out unless the road was clear. But both riders should have been aware they were in a blind spot up until the point the car turned in. By which time the other driver had committed to pulling out. 3: Overtaking a turning car by using the right turning lane for oncoming traffic isn't ideal. 4: I believe this could have been completely avoided had the rider learned defensive riding. When i learned in Australia, they taught us, "Ride as if everyone hasn't seen you". In this situation I would have slowed down. That however probably wouldn't have prevented the careless driver to pull out, but at least reduced the speed of possible impact. 5: There's not always 1 person to blame, and in this instance both were lucky this didn't end otherwise.
You are 100% right, not only should he not have crossed the white lines to pass, he simply shouldn't have been passing under such circumstances, like you say it's about riding defensively. However, the fact that myself (2nd rider) was on a motorcycle, would not have changed the outcome of this, if I was in a car, we would still have been in the same place at the same time. It should also be noted that as the car pulls away at the end it also pulls out in front of a van, making me think they are not the most observant people.
I actually agree with most of what you have to say but as I'm not a motorcyclist then I'm definitely no expert! Yeah I believe he should have stayed behind the car for sure but reviewing again I think a collision would have happened as the first rider then would have been further to the left on the road and not as much time to stop as the second rider and would have had to have moved further to the right to avoid contact. If he had have stayed behind (as he probably should have) I think a collision was inevitable! The only reason he was in the on coming right turning lane was the avoid hitting the Clio but I agree he wasn't defensive enough and put himself in that position. I'd rate that as 80/20 or even 90/10 in favour of the Clio. Certainly nowhere near 50/50 for me but as I say I'm not an expert! Thanks for your thoughts on this though please feel free to keep commenting, even on my driving! Ha!
@flip inheck Looking at the positions I'd say you are certainly correct. Had he been more central in the lane he would have been unlikely to swerve around the front, would most likely have collected mid-car. And I know for a fact he would not have had as much braking power that I have to stop.
I have been a biker for almost 50 years. And please don't think I'm just some old doddering oul eejit, I ride my large touring bike almost every day, I've driven it all over Europe and regularly drive it on motorways and through major cities over in GB. I recently passed my PSV driving test for a minibus which I drive in connection with my work. Passed both theory and practical first time. And I drove front line emergency response vehicles for many years, up to HGV class one. So I know a wee bit about driving, trust me. I want to comment on that last clip involving "Philip" on the wee Yamaha overtaking the gold VW Golf which it appears to me was NOT indicating to turn left at a major junction. You are so very wrong if you think that "Philip" has "done nothing wrong". Where to even begin with this...... First of all, he's a learner and a very inexperienced rider. Bear that in mind. The road markings, traffic islands and signs are all screaming "MAJOR JUNCTION AHEAD" YOU DO NOT OVERTAKE HERE !!! He's FAR too close to the car in front, the Golf. The Clio driver - waiting to pull out - is checking left and right again and again and has a very limited chance of seeing him. He actually passes the Golf in a single lane channel right at the traffic island (which as well as being a traffic calming measure, is designed to be a safe haven for for pedestrians crossing a busy carriageway). It's highly unlikely that any driver emerging from that other road could anticipate that some eejit on a nippy motorcycle would be daft enough to squeeze his bike between the car and the traffic island. Try an look at it again from the Clio driver's point of view. The motorcyclist is hidden behind oncoming traffic. She is looking left and right and could easily fail to spot him because of his closeness to the car in front.. Listen - when you're riding a motorcycle, you always come off second best in an impact with another vehicle. You have to bear this in mind every time you kick that side stand up. It's up to the rider to ride defensively and to make sure that he is clearly visible to other drivers and not to make any daft sudden manoeuvres where he puts himself in danger. If he had been clipped by that Clio, I would say he would have been at least 90% to blame. And that's from another biker. After looking at the 2nd footage from the following bike, I shudder to think that perhaps you were riding behind him and taking him for some kind of driving lesson in that clip , if you think he did nothing wrong.
My friend who was on the lead bike was always rather impatient or aggressive when he rode, things such as this clip, rather than just sitting behind the car the extra 2 seconds he would try and nip past without thinking about what's on the other side of it. While I wasn't giving him any kind of lesson, just out for a ride round town, I did try and make sure he knew that what he done was stupid and unnecessary. I would rather he had dropped back to at least as far as myself or further, but unfortunately not really anything I could do about.
What are you on about the car pulled out from the left onto the roundabout and as I had nobody coming from my right I had right of way and they should not have pulled out! Look at it again!
In Australia seeing the other car was on the roundabout first the cam was in the wrong. At roundabouts you give way to who ever is in the roundabout first.
4:27 philip, racing round roundabouts can cause the inevitable clash with other drivers. You need to stop riding around roundabouts at nearly 40mph, then other road users can see you coming.
@@dashcamsni9190 DFT sets the speed limit for a roundabout as the lowest speed limit of any road joining it. While the road you're on maybe 40mph, the road to the left where the car is coming from will be no higher than 30mph, maybe even 20mph. You as a road user should know this, but even worse, it's a general rule of thumb not to exceed 30mph through a roundabout or realistically 20mph as cars joining it will usually be joining from a stationary position. ie. 0mph
I will 100% admit I was going far too fast for this roundabout. This was in my early days of riding where I was just comfortable enough on a new bike to be confident, but still new enough to maybe be over confident if you like. I believe I have wised up and grown up more in the last year or so, and have to say things like this definitely happen less frequently.
Loyal Crusader true and I usually do but as it turns into an off ramp about a mile up the road very little people do move over. Admittedly I do now move to the left and then back out when I need to.
@@dashcamsni9190 thats fair enough just see it a lot recently even on the m2 northbound people sitting in the middle lane all the way up to sandyknowes roundabout then they indicate left and leave at sandyknowes
Loyal Crusader now that’s infuriating! You can see past it if they’re in the middle and go straight on as the left lane turns into an off ramp but to do that is just ridiculous. 👍🏻
If yall NI peeps know what the abbeycentre is, then you must have known about when that red car flipped over in like July or smth of last year that’s ok if not
I hate that roundabout at the bottom of Tates Avenue onto Boucher. It's far too small for how busy it is and no one indicates to turn left like 80% of the time!!
I understand that drivers pullout infront of motorbikes a lot but surely going fast at them doesn't help, does it? Anticipation! I live in NI and I think I avoid half the videos you've got by anticipating
4:53 more gems from philip, when the lights change to amber the car driver is about 25ft from the crossing, so NO he shouldn't have attempted to stop at the lights as it takes on average 75ft to come to a stop at 30mph.
rdrhouse They had plenty of time to stop and I’ve no idea how you could work out they where 25ft from the crossing with the cam being directly behind and a wide angle lense! 🙄
@@dashcamsni9190 well if you're not able to decide how far they are from the crossing, how can make the decision that they had plenty of time. From the video i can estimate the distance easily.
i love that you pulled over. In England they just drive by accidents. In Germany, i hear its the law to pull over if you are witness to an accident as I assume.
The last clip emergency braking on a 60mph road is very risky because you also have a threat behind you, a car rear ending into you not expecting you braking that hard.
I'm originally from NI and I can't believe the quality of drivers has dropped dramatically. I love in NZ and yes they're shocking to9 but unfortunately city driving everyone is stressed out so mistakes happen. What they need to do for be driver training is to cope with stress and concentration. These could be a form of tests instead of just getting behind the wheel or make drivers so a great 2 every 5 years or so. Keeps them educated and safe. Also a road role applicable in the UK vs NZ you can overtake either side on both lanes, it took me a while to realise that here but my first reaction was similar to the driver in the video haha
Mate a lot of drivers i see i wouldn't let behind the wheel of a milk float & nowadays I think people should be sent for mental assessments like the way some people drive you'd think they have Autism/ADHD.
@ 2.28 that's actually lawful, what was unlawful was the driver complaining it was wrong HE should have waited until the junction was clear, not the vauxhauls fault more the people parked on the whiterock road blocking the turn
Not unlawful as Daniel started from the lights seeing that the traffic had begun to move and never came to a complete stop in the middle of the junction he was always moving so did absolutely nothing wrong. Agree on your point about the parked cars though!
Once you pass the stop line if you do not continue your breaking a traffic violation, so yeah they had crossed the stop line and turned left, Daniel was at the opposite lights and still has to give way to any car that crossed the stop line from the right, check the highway code you'll find I'm right
Some are daft as a brush,some are not aware of their surroundings and some just don't care...add all that with a mobile phone and you have danger all over
4:44 This is normal everyday for a biker. We all know it happens. Like the roundabout car after that. If you know it happens, then youre expecting it. Know that means your prepared for it. If you're prepared for it, then reacting angrily is a childish response and therefore you are as bad as the person who cut you u😊
In my opinion that last one Phillip was in the wrong, the golf was turning in and the person in the clio couldn't see the bike passing the car. In my opinion it's a little dodgy The bike should of waited behind the golf
Yes you are correct Phillip should not have passed in that way but the Clio shouldn’t have pulled out either without clear line of sight which you obviously fail to mention. Probably a 50:50 in the eyes of insurance if a collision occurred!
@@1eyepaul no it wasn’t it only started to pull out as Philip passed the Golf, it’s something that you should never do as you’ve no idea what is behind the car turning in. This isn’t to excuse what Philip did. Check it!
Your logic doesn't really work cos the slip road is never the left hand lane, its a slip road. You keep left and if you see a car coming up the slip road and it is safe to do so you move right to allow safe entry on to the motorway then you simply, and try to stay with me here, move back to the left.
I was doing 53mph in a 50mph zone, nothing about how fast the white Hyundai was going when he went up the inside? No? Are you from Belfast? Do you know the Westlink?
There's no denying he was speeding and should have went past on the right. I am in no way saying he was right to do what he did, especially approaching an on ramp. What he did was totally wrong. What I'm saying is that from the clip provided it appears you are lane hogging. Keep left unless overtaking is the law in Britain and you weren't overtaking
Great idea if you ask me! Cam footage does come into play if you have an accident though they will look at it! In my opinion it makes the cammer drive better as it will convict you just as easily as anyone else you capture on it!
Nah.....How would you prove who was actually driving the car at the time? Could be a mechanic, employee of the owner or a friend or family member who has borrowed the car.
In my opinion, drivers should be made to do the driving test every 10 years as most people's driving deteriorates with age, a lot of accidents are caused by oaps who's eyesight and reactions are below par and don't get me started on oaps on roundabouts, when most of them passed their test weren't many roundabouts about.
Wouldn't call them stupid. Our emotions go up and down throughout the day and we all do things at certain times of the day that we wouldnt dream of at other times.
I can sympathise with the motorcyclist. I am an avid motorcyclist and come against this type of incompetence time and time again. I’ve always loved my motorcycling but riding isn’t as enjoyable as it used to be…
Philip at 4.39 your doing 67mph in a 60 if your gonna make these videos showing other people breaking the Highway Code you have to a-deer to it yourself.
Some of the drivers of the dashcam cars need to learn a little patience. And the learner motobike rider should absolutely not have been passing a car at a junction. For almost very obvious reasons. Better to avoid an accident than blame someone else for causing one.
Can't be arsed to wait in the right lane at tates Ave. Drive right round the roundabout and complain about someone else, 🤔 have a word with yourself fs
This channel honestly needs to get taken down...the real idiot here is the channel owner for not blurring out and respecting the number plates and owners of the cars.
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Philips days are numbered driving in that manner. You can't drive aggressively and expect everyone else to watch out for you. Mutual respect is required my friend
Hi Brian,
Is there a specific clip you are referring to or maybe a more specific explanation? I try to avoid any kind of confrontation due to anxiety, so it would be good to be able to take something constructive away from this to work on.
Thanks
The last clip you not only overtook wrecklessly at a junction but you crossed into the oncoming filter lane, 95% of that incident was caused by you driving impatiently and aggressive. Drivers are being urged to think bike but you hiding in a blind spot, overtaking a car carrying out a manoeuvre and crossing into oncoming lanes.
In the last clip the first bike is not myself, that is footage off my friends camera, I am the bike that stopped.
The rider you are referring to you are 100% correct in every point, pretty much every single thing he did in that incident is a good example of what not to do.
Apologies I only went from the name on the clip mate
Not a problem sir, meant to put a different name beside that part but I forgot.
7:31, lets see how self important "you" are. At 7:31 the black car on the left can see the silver Honda is turning left so starts to enter the roundabout, "you" are behind the Honda which hasn't even entered the roundabout yet. At 7:33 the black car is half way across the roundabout and "you" are still not at the junction. As "you" reach the roundabout the black car is moving across the central white painted island so "you" decide it would be clever to drive at the car and nearly cause an accident. It's not "your" road.
It has been pointed out previously that I was the one who made the mistake here and I agree although approaching a mini roundabout like that knowing that nothing is coming from your right that it is ok to proceed. The black car in question knew I was behind the Honda so I believe they should have waited although I do concede they where on the roundabout first.
Agree 100%. So many drivers think they can do this. The rule is, give way to traffic on the roundabout. Not “come bombing up to the roundabout, expecting everyone else to hang back while you go flying through”. Oh, and at 6:44 yes, you were hogging the middle lane on the Westlink. Not really impressed with your driving, to be honest.
7:32 I´m planning my first vacation in UK, so I'm watching these videos for preparation.
One question: in Germany, on a roundabout, the car that enters the roundabout first has the right of way. In the video, the black car coming from the left drives into the roundabout first, but does not have the right of way??? Why ? Is this because this is a very small roundabout?
Tip for driving in Belfast never drive too close behind a taxi driver because if they don’t have a fair they sometimes try brake check you
Ty, I wont be crashing into taxis now
Thanks for the tip :)
They are wankers
Taxi drivers here a so bad a driving tbh
7:54, for those of you who don't fully understand UK road law. When you are turning right, the first car may enter the junction in order to attempt the turn. When the light turns orange the person in the junction turning right now has full right of way. People in the oncoming lane no longer have right of way thus must stop on orange light if someone is present in junction attempting to turn right.
Thanks for this explination.
4:38 Speed is the exact reason he pulled out in front of you. I bet he looked left saw you looked right saw it was clear and pulled out, I bet he has made that turn over 500 times but you were speeding and he assumed that you were not so he is used to people that are that far away not to come up on him that fast and thought he had plenty of time.
Speed definitely a factor in the reason that he pulled out on Phillip but if you examine closely you'll notice that the car doesn't pull up to the junction squarely but at an angle thus making it more difficult to see what was coming from the left and with Phillip being on a motorcycle would be harder to see and they also cut a good chunk off the junction by doing that also. I do agree though speed was a major factor in him nearly having a collision!
Perfectly fair analysis. Yes I was speeding, as you know the speed limit on such a road is 60mph, as you can clearly see I was doing at most 8mph over this. At my slowest speed I am doing 18mph. If I had been doing 50mph, I would still have had to brake hard.
@@phillipadams2671 I wonder what the insurance company and police would have to say about going only 8mph beyond the limit had something gone wrong. Pretty sure both of you would have been found at fault
That last clip, where the bike overtook the left turning car.
Correct me if I'm wrong:
1: Bad riding from the motorcyclist, who should have anticipated that this would have happened, and stayed behind the car.
2: Of course, the car shouldn't have pulled out unless the road was clear. But both riders should have been aware they were in a blind spot up until the point the car turned in. By which time the other driver had committed to pulling out.
3: Overtaking a turning car by using the right turning lane for oncoming traffic isn't ideal.
4: I believe this could have been completely avoided had the rider learned defensive riding. When i learned in Australia, they taught us, "Ride as if everyone hasn't seen you". In this situation I would have slowed down. That however probably wouldn't have prevented the careless driver to pull out, but at least reduced the speed of possible impact.
5: There's not always 1 person to blame, and in this instance both were lucky this didn't end otherwise.
You are 100% right, not only should he not have crossed the white lines to pass, he simply shouldn't have been passing under such circumstances, like you say it's about riding defensively.
However, the fact that myself (2nd rider) was on a motorcycle, would not have changed the outcome of this, if I was in a car, we would still have been in the same place at the same time.
It should also be noted that as the car pulls away at the end it also pulls out in front of a van, making me think they are not the most observant people.
I actually agree with most of what you have to say but as I'm not a motorcyclist then I'm definitely no expert!
Yeah I believe he should have stayed behind the car for sure but reviewing again I think a collision would have happened as the first rider then would have been further to the left on the road and not as much time to stop as the second rider and would have had to have moved further to the right to avoid contact. If he had have stayed behind (as he probably should have) I think a collision was inevitable!
The only reason he was in the on coming right turning lane was the avoid hitting the Clio but I agree he wasn't defensive enough and put himself in that position. I'd rate that as 80/20 or even 90/10 in favour of the Clio. Certainly nowhere near 50/50 for me but as I say I'm not an expert!
Thanks for your thoughts on this though please feel free to keep commenting, even on my driving! Ha!
@flip inheck Looking at the positions I'd say you are certainly correct. Had he been more central in the lane he would have been unlikely to swerve around the front, would most likely have collected mid-car. And I know for a fact he would not have had as much braking power that I have to stop.
@@phillipadams2671 He should not have been overtaking at a junction Period
Also take into the postion and low angle of the sun, observing the shadow cast the sun was low and the driver was looking straight into it !
I’ve noticed that very few drivers in Northern Ireland use indicators.
100%
I have been a biker for almost 50 years. And please don't think I'm just some old doddering oul eejit, I ride my large touring bike almost every day, I've driven it all over Europe and regularly drive it on motorways and through major cities over in GB. I recently passed my PSV driving test for a minibus which I drive in connection with my work. Passed both theory and practical first time. And I drove front line emergency response vehicles for many years, up to HGV class one. So I know a wee bit about driving, trust me.
I want to comment on that last clip involving "Philip" on the wee Yamaha overtaking the gold VW Golf which it appears to me was NOT indicating to turn left at a major junction. You are so very wrong if you think that "Philip" has "done nothing wrong".
Where to even begin with this......
First of all, he's a learner and a very inexperienced rider. Bear that in mind. The road markings, traffic islands and signs are all screaming "MAJOR JUNCTION AHEAD"
YOU DO NOT OVERTAKE HERE !!!
He's FAR too close to the car in front, the Golf. The Clio driver - waiting to pull out - is checking left and right again and again and has a very limited chance of seeing him.
He actually passes the Golf in a single lane channel right at the traffic island (which as well as being a traffic calming measure, is designed to be a safe haven for for pedestrians crossing a busy carriageway). It's highly unlikely that any driver emerging from that other road could anticipate that some eejit on a nippy motorcycle would be daft enough to squeeze his bike between the car and the traffic island. Try an look at it again from the Clio driver's point of view. The motorcyclist is hidden behind oncoming traffic. She is looking left and right and could easily fail to spot him because of his closeness to the car in front..
Listen - when you're riding a motorcycle, you always come off second best in an impact with another vehicle. You have to bear this in mind every time you kick that side stand up. It's up to the rider to ride defensively and to make sure that he is clearly visible to other drivers and not to make any daft sudden manoeuvres where he puts himself in danger.
If he had been clipped by that Clio, I would say he would have been at least 90% to blame.
And that's from another biker. After looking at the 2nd footage from the following bike, I shudder to think that perhaps you were riding behind him and taking him for some kind of driving lesson in that clip , if you think he did nothing wrong.
My friend who was on the lead bike was always rather impatient or aggressive when he rode, things such as this clip, rather than just sitting behind the car the extra 2 seconds he would try and nip past without thinking about what's on the other side of it.
While I wasn't giving him any kind of lesson, just out for a ride round town, I did try and make sure he knew that what he done was stupid and unnecessary. I would rather he had dropped back to at least as far as myself or further, but unfortunately not really anything I could do about.
the worst and most disturbing bit is all those cool fm snippets #boke
😂
Any recommendations for a dashcam, shit I see on my motorbike is unreal
I'll ask Philip what him and his friend use as the footage they sent is excellent!
@@dashcamsni9190 it's great! Tried using one for the car and it doesn't do well with the additional vibrations!
Phillip tells me he uses a Drift Ghost-S camera. Hope this helps!
Clip from front bike in last clip is from my mate, Burkavitch
Phillip Adams keep the clips coming Philip and thanks for what you’ve sent so far! 👍🏻
7:34 dashcam in the wrong black car at the roundabout 2-3 seconds beforehand. Camera just looking an excuse
JOHNOOH are you serious? At a roundabout you give way to traffic from the right! It doesn’t matter how long they’ve been there!
@@dashcamsni9190 100% agree with you that you give way to traffic coming from the right. Traffic coming after you is a different story.
What are you on about the car pulled out from the left onto the roundabout and as I had nobody coming from my right I had right of way and they should not have pulled out! Look at it again!
@@dashcamsni9190 I have looked, they were on the roundabout before you... Regardless great channel and all great content. Please keep it up
In Australia seeing the other car was on the roundabout first the cam was in the wrong. At roundabouts you give way to who ever is in the roundabout first.
Can't believe it's worse up there than down south!
Seriously bad that's why I set up the channel to highlight how bad it has become!
@@dashcamsni9190 it's gone mad mate!
That's still not the case despite this shocking video...
4:27 philip, racing round roundabouts can cause the inevitable clash with other drivers. You need to stop riding around roundabouts at nearly 40mph, then other road users can see you coming.
rdrhouse 40mph limit on that stretch of road! Just saying!
@@dashcamsni9190 DFT sets the speed limit for a roundabout as the lowest speed limit of any road joining it. While the road you're on maybe 40mph, the road to the left where the car is coming from will be no higher than 30mph, maybe even 20mph. You as a road user should know this, but even worse, it's a general rule of thumb not to exceed 30mph through a roundabout or realistically 20mph as cars joining it will usually be joining from a stationary position. ie. 0mph
You make a fair point and I had actually forgotten about that rule so thank you for reminding me. 👍🏻
I will 100% admit I was going far too fast for this roundabout. This was in my early days of riding where I was just comfortable enough on a new bike to be confident, but still new enough to maybe be over confident if you like.
I believe I have wised up and grown up more in the last year or so, and have to say things like this definitely happen less frequently.
Show us some of the DOUBLE parking on double yellow lines ,love it 😂
Why hog the middle lane of the westlink??? Youre meant to return to the inside lane at all times
Loyal Crusader true and I usually do but as it turns into an off ramp about a mile up the road very little people do move over. Admittedly I do now move to the left and then back out when I need to.
@@dashcamsni9190 thats fair enough just see it a lot recently even on the m2 northbound people sitting in the middle lane all the way up to sandyknowes roundabout then they indicate left and leave at sandyknowes
Loyal Crusader now that’s infuriating! You can see past it if they’re in the middle and go straight on as the left lane turns into an off ramp but to do that is just ridiculous. 👍🏻
I recognise the place from the first scene
That’s the crossroads at Dundrod. 👍🏻
If yall NI peeps know what the abbeycentre is, then you must have known about when that red car flipped over in like July or smth of last year that’s ok if not
I hate that roundabout at the bottom of Tates Avenue onto Boucher. It's far too small for how busy it is and no one indicates to turn left like 80% of the time!!
We are all hypocrites when on the road mate, me included, ANTICIPATION is the answer.
Heyy I saw our car in the background!
09.06 check the registration plate, there’s your answer!
I come from Scotland and I am thinking of visiting my sister in port rush i drive a motorcycle think i need a tank instesd to see the bike racing 🇬🇧👍
Not as bad as it seems you are just seeing the worst of it through the videos. Sure come on over what could possibly go wrong?? Ha!
@@dashcamsni9190 cheers mate i will be becoming 🇬🇧👍
I live in portrush, I've hi viz on my bike and they STILL pay no attention
if you ever miss ur exit on the motorway wait of the other go through it and then turn around and then take the exit you need
I understand that drivers pullout infront of motorbikes a lot but surely going fast at them doesn't help, does it? Anticipation! I live in NI and I think I avoid half the videos you've got by anticipating
4:53 more gems from philip, when the lights change to amber the car driver is about 25ft from the crossing, so NO he shouldn't have attempted to stop at the lights as it takes on average 75ft to come to a stop at 30mph.
rdrhouse They had plenty of time to stop and I’ve no idea how you could work out they where 25ft from the crossing with the cam being directly behind and a wide angle lense! 🙄
@@dashcamsni9190 well if you're not able to decide how far they are from the crossing, how can make the decision that they had plenty of time. From the video i can estimate the distance easily.
Still have to disagree with you on this I think they had plenty of time to stop safely I believe they just decided not to.
i love that you pulled over. In England they just drive by accidents. In Germany, i hear its the law to pull over if you are witness to an accident as I assume.
The video sound is pretty good, beyond my imagination
Philip on the bike absolutely should have stayed behind the yellow golf no question
The last clip emergency braking on a 60mph road is very risky because you also have a threat behind you, a car rear ending into you not expecting you braking that hard.
Every single clip I went "twat". Every. Clip.
7:33 clearly the car was on the roundabout first
they eventually do this infront of undercover and off duty cops who will get them
What is it you think they did wrong? The bike behind was entirely blameless in my view! Do you think she had the right to pull out of that junction??
I'm originally from NI and I can't believe the quality of drivers has dropped dramatically. I love in NZ and yes they're shocking to9 but unfortunately city driving everyone is stressed out so mistakes happen. What they need to do for be driver training is to cope with stress and concentration. These could be a form of tests instead of just getting behind the wheel or make drivers so a great 2 every 5 years or so. Keeps them educated and safe. Also a road role applicable in the UK vs NZ you can overtake either side on both lanes, it took me a while to realise that here but my first reaction was similar to the driver in the video haha
Mate a lot of drivers i see i wouldn't let behind the wheel of a milk float & nowadays I think people should be sent for mental assessments like the way some people drive you'd think they have Autism/ADHD.
4:47 I live about 3 minutes walk away from there
you're joking
@ 2.28 that's actually lawful, what was unlawful was the driver complaining it was wrong HE should have waited until the junction was clear, not the vauxhauls fault more the people parked on the whiterock road blocking the turn
Not unlawful as Daniel started from the lights seeing that the traffic had begun to move and never came to a complete stop in the middle of the junction he was always moving so did absolutely nothing wrong. Agree on your point about the parked cars though!
Once you pass the stop line if you do not continue your breaking a traffic violation, so yeah they had crossed the stop line and turned left, Daniel was at the opposite lights and still has to give way to any car that crossed the stop line from the right, check the highway code you'll find I'm right
I meant the blocking the junction comment he made not the van
Belfast, Londonderry, Newry and Ballymena, the cities of disasterous driving.
You forgot Lisburn. 😉👍🏻
Some are daft as a brush,some are not aware of their surroundings and some just don't care...add all that with a mobile phone and you have danger all over
4:39 You are whinging at someone pulling out, yes, but speeding at 68mph doesn't give them much chance now does it?!
4:44 This is normal everyday for a biker. We all know it happens. Like the roundabout car after that. If you know it happens, then youre expecting it. Know that means your prepared for it. If you're prepared for it, then reacting angrily is a childish response and therefore you are as bad as the person who cut you u😊
In my opinion that last one Phillip was in the wrong, the golf was turning in and the person in the clio couldn't see the bike passing the car. In my opinion it's a little dodgy
The bike should of waited behind the golf
Yes you are correct Phillip should not have passed in that way but the Clio shouldn’t have pulled out either without clear line of sight which you obviously fail to mention. Probably a 50:50 in the eyes of insurance if a collision occurred!
@@dashcamsni9190 the car was ready half way out.
@@1eyepaul no it wasn’t it only started to pull out as Philip passed the Golf, it’s something that you should never do as you’ve no idea what is behind the car turning in. This isn’t to excuse what Philip did. Check it!
@@dashcamsni9190 okay.. they were both in the wrong. The car shouldn't of pulled out and Phillip shouldn't of passed the golf.
Really disappointed not to see myself on here - some of my driving manoeuvres would have people on here exploding with rage and disbelief! Yeoooh!
Lane hogging is lane hogging. Don't try to justify you ignorance and selfishness
RSScott say whatever you like it’s not lane hogging when it’s just past the point where an on ramp becomes the left hand lane.
Your logic doesn't really work cos the slip road is never the left hand lane, its a slip road.
You keep left and if you see a car coming up the slip road and it is safe to do so you move right to allow safe entry on to the motorway then you simply, and try to stay with me here, move back to the left.
I was doing 53mph in a 50mph zone, nothing about how fast the white Hyundai was going when he went up the inside? No? Are you from Belfast? Do you know the Westlink?
There's no denying he was speeding and should have went past on the right. I am in no way saying he was right to do what he did, especially approaching an on ramp. What he did was totally wrong. What I'm saying is that from the clip provided it appears you are lane hogging. Keep left unless overtaking is the law in Britain and you weren't overtaking
Dead on Padraig! Like you’ve never done that??
Should be able to send dash cam clips to insurance companies so they can set premiums for these drivers accordingly. Would stamp this out overnight.
Great idea if you ask me! Cam footage does come into play if you have an accident though they will look at it! In my opinion it makes the cammer drive better as it will convict you just as easily as anyone else you capture on it!
Nah.....How would you prove who was actually driving the car at the time? Could be a mechanic, employee of the owner or a friend or family member who has borrowed the car.
Bad when Lurgan is on cam ffs
In my opinion, drivers should be made to do the driving test every 10 years as most people's driving deteriorates with age, a lot of accidents are caused by oaps who's eyesight and reactions are below par and don't get me started on oaps on roundabouts, when most of them passed their test weren't many roundabouts about.
Wall ta wall fecking eejits
True statement! Haha!!
Wouldn't call them stupid. Our emotions go up and down throughout the day and we all do things at certain times of the day that we wouldnt dream of at other times.
9:08 allow it bruv that was okay
I can sympathise with the motorcyclist. I am an avid motorcyclist and come against this type of incompetence time and time again. I’ve always loved my motorcycling but riding isn’t as enjoyable as it used to be…
Im sorry to say you absolutely were lane hogging on the westlink
Philip at 4.39 your doing 67mph in a 60 if your gonna make these videos showing other people breaking the Highway Code you have to a-deer to it yourself.
Some of the drivers of the dashcam cars need to learn a little patience. And the learner motobike rider should absolutely not have been passing a car at a junction. For almost very obvious reasons. Better to avoid an accident than blame someone else for causing one.
Can't be arsed to wait in the right lane at tates Ave. Drive right round the roundabout and complain about someone else, 🤔 have a word with yourself fs
6.50 you were wrong in fact your wrong in a lot of this
Perfect driver are we?
@@dashcamsni9190 no no but if your gonna post videos of peoples mistakes shouldn't you be beyond reproach yourself ?
Touchy touchy lol
You seem like a bit self entitled. Dew of those issues weren't big deals and you made them into some
Couldn’t be further from the truth but as ever you are perfectly entitled...... to your opinion! 😉
This channel honestly needs to get taken down...the real idiot here is the channel owner for not blurring out and respecting the number plates and owners of the cars.
All video is taken in public so there is no need to blur out registrations etc there are no laws being broken here!
Get a bike
Got 2, thanks!
Omg drivers over here are worse than Hong Kong!!!!