Ryan Fixes the KD-10 Unit on His Roland V-Drums
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Don't be like Ryan, use the plastic side on those beaters kids! Otherwise use this video to help you replace the rear cushion with a brand new one that comes from Japan after a month or so!
A few have asked so for the record: logistically it started out as a support request that I did at this link: www.roland.com... (make sure you're logged into your Roland account before clicking the link). Eventually they decided it wasn't under warranty so they charged me 46.57 USD and gave me this number to call: (323) 890-3700 ext 7710. Hope that helps!
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Im very thankful to you sir, you saved me from spending 1500 rs on roland service centre. Seeing your video i got an idea and opened my kick pad and noticed that the wire was only broken. I soldered it back and now its good as new. As a person from India where fixing such parts is a nightmare you are our savior. Thanks sir 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent, happy to have helped!
Hi Ryan! Many thanks for your video. My problem wasn't the rear cushion but a loose wire on the piezo. But all the video was extremely useful to disassemble the kD-10 without destroying the whole planet. For those of you who have the same problem (the symptoms are basically that the bass drum start to mute or to give double kick randomly) just follow the steps on Ryan's video and find the loose wire on the piezo (there are only two as shown on the video). In my case was that the wire just left out the welding glue. So, I cut a little of the cover of the wire to expose the metal inside (be extremely careful on this) and stick it to the piezo ring with epoxi glue. In less that 15 minutes I have the problem solved and my soul went back to my body. Hope that helps.
Fantastic, thank you!
Excellent video! Thank you so much!!
Happy to help!
Thanks dude! I'm gonna use this video to fix the sustain pedal on my piano.
Nice, happy to hear this has application beyond the drum kit!
Great helpful video. My sensor pad developed a big indentation and it wasn't until I replaced it that I realised that the entire foam pad (approx 5 years old) had lost of lot of its rebound properties. This had been driving me nuts for a year and I was convinced it was my technique, particularly evident when trying to do fast doubles. Not the case as it turns out.
That's GREAT to know, been over a year now and my indentation ain't getting any smaller...
Great video thank you!
Happy to help!
Thank you for making this video. Exactly what I needed.
Happy to help!
I had just started practicing one day and put a tear in my KD-10 kick head on my TD27-KV kit from Roland. I was FREAKING OUT because this is what I use to make my cover videos on social media. I didn't have time to ship it to LA, and have them charge me something crazy price-wise. I went to Guitar Center and bought a double pack Remo impact patch. Put it over the tear, let it set under a weight, and it's as good as new fresh out of the box. Save money, and think smart guys.
NIce! This is great, I'll note it in the description, thanks!!
Thanks so much for posting this, like you said no one else has put up anything detailed for how to replace this, so this will come in handy for me eventually. Right now mine just has an indention where my right pedal hits, but before long it will get to the point where I'll want to replace that. I like that the pad came with adhesive so I wouldn't have to try and glue it myself.
Happy to help! I have a nice dent going now as well, hoping it holds up 🤞
Thankyou Ryan !
Happy to help!
I had success replacing mine, thanks to you!
Happy to help!
Thank you 🙌
Happy to help!
I think it's weird that Roland doesn't mention to use the rubber side of the beater in the manual of the KD-10 as far as I know...Someone at the store mentioned it to me so I started searching.
Definitely something that should go in the manual!
Today (after playing mesh head around 1year and 10mounth) I founded out that it's unhealthy to use felt beaters.... crazy
So we should be using the hard back of the beater? Not the felt?
@@verzure Correct!
Alternatively you can use a head patch on the mesh head and then you can use the felt side of the beater. I highly recommend using Remo's Falam Slam kevlar patches, because unlike the nylon patches, they don't chew up the felt and leave dust everywhere like you see in the beginning of ryan's video.
I'm so glad you posted this but where do I get the pad
Eventually they gave me this number to call: (323) 890-3700 ext 7710 and that's where I was finally able to order a replacement pad, but it's been a few so hopefully that still works!
Great video. I just replaced mine but now the kick pedal doesn't trigger. The only way it triggers is if I tap the back of the piezo. The connector is plugged in correctly. Absolutely no idea.
Oof, wish I understood more about how it worked so I could help. Honestly there's not much that can go wrong with the replacement so I'd believe you got that right and maybe some cables came unplugged or are only halfway in?
Nice Job. Thank you so much .
Happy to help!
Thank you!
Happy to help!
Nice video. My KD-10 after about 3 years (plastic beaters) has a slight indentation(s) but my big problem is that as of late it really doesn't register softer hits. I do a little bit of jazz from time to time and can't feather any more. I've messed with the pad settings and tweaked the location where the beater(s) impact the head but no help. No idea how to fix this. If anyone has a thought, please reply. Thanks.
I wish I had a better answer for you, hopefully somebody does lend a hand, but it does seem strange that anything with the cushion would suddenly change, so I'd think the issue has to be surrounding the piezo to some extent. This link might help, comments and all ufodrums.com/Roland-V-drum-Trigger-Repair_b_3.html
very helpful video. thank you
Happy to help!
Now I'm wondering if you could build one yourself for cheap
Fun idea! The analogue connector makes me think there wouldn't be any proprietary issues, but I'm definitely out of my depth with stuff like that.
I've got to dents from my double pedal but not holes. Do you think Ryan, that simply turning the pad 90 degrees would keep it going for a while longer and are those side indents on the cushion vital as they will obviously be out of alignment by 90 degrees too? Very helpful video, so thanks for that!
My guess is that would work fine, the cushion is uniform throughout so I don't think those indents matter directionally at all. Hardest part will be removing the pad without damaging the back or sticky part too much (slow and steady would be my guess there), and then you might have to make 2 new notches yourself, or at least one for the bottom where it fits with the rubber cover (it's been a while, I'm not sure how tight the fit was there). If you do have to make your own notches I'd be careful of cutting the pad since we know ho prone they can be to tearing, might be worth trying a heated nail or something similar that will heat seal it at the same time. Good luck!
@@ryan_runs_ Thanks Ryan, I was going to reply earlier, but I wanted it to bed in. I can confirm that this works! Like new again. There was not need to cut notches (not even sure of their function) and I was able to reuse the old glue. Also by fluke I even managed to get the most dented part at the bottom away from the new impact points. This is a simple repair so if anyone reading this plays double pedal you can extend the life of the KD-10 Pad/sponge in this way. I recommend cutting the cable tie and fitting a new one. Also if you happen to pull the entire conector of the PCB it's no problem to carefully remount onto the two pins.
This is GREAT info, thank you!
Where did you get the replacement pad for KD10? I only found KD9 replacement pad…
They were asking for product, i tried to put KD10… it wont let me get through… and i tried ton put serial number still wont do it.. what did you type in?
@@Brinxv.studio if I remember correctly I could only enter the product I had registered, which was the entire TD-07KX kit I had purchased instead of the KD-10 by itself, and from there it was narrowed down by the support team once they determined it "wasn't a warranty issue." Not sure if that helps, maybe try the phone number if all else fails...
Please, I have a question. Where did you buy this rear cushion?
Roland direct, it started as a support request here: www.roland.com/backstage/support#product_support. It may have eventually been changed to a parts order request because it wasn't covered under warranty, and they had to order from Japan, but I only dealt directly with a guy at Roland. The part is called the "rear cushion" or "sensor cushion" though so you might find other vendors just by searching for that. Good luck!
A heat gun would make removing that pad alot easier :) Great video and HOW TO info
Excellent suggestion thank you!
Great video, thanks for the insights! Quick question: I'm using the Roland RDH-120A Double Kick Drum Pedal with a KD-10 kick, but I'm experiencing a double-hitting issue with just one pedal press. I've already tried adjusting the beater height and pedal tension with no luck. Any tips on how to resolve this double kick sound?
In my *limited* experience I've had this happen for 2 reasons: 1) sensitivity to my own technique i.e. I was letting the beater bounce sometimes and the unit was sensitive enough to pick it up. 2) Transference from other impacts i.e. sometimes hitting the kit in another area will still be enough to trigger the wrong unit. I haven't had this issue with the kick but the cymbals can be all over the place sometimes with this.
For problem 1 I just learned to bury the beater, for problem 2 it takes a lot of troubleshooting, mostly unplugging units until the problem goes away and then I can sometimes tell where it's coming from. If I remember correctly there's a way to adjust for some of that with the drum module too, I'll see if I can find it again but I'm pretty sure it was in the TD-07 manual.
At one point I tried to use the RDH-120A as my kick drum but the software on my computer didn't like it, I don't quite have the words but I think it reads differently, like it wasn't sending single "hit" commands like the KD-10.
Hopefully any of that helps!
Hey, can you provide a Link where to buy this piece for the KD-10? Thank you!
Roland direct, actually, it all started as a support request here: www.roland.com/backstage/support#product_support. It may have eventually been changed to a parts order request because it wasn't covered under warranty, and they had to order from Japan, but I only dealt directly with a guy at Roland. The part is called the "rear cushion" or "sensor cushion" though so you might find other vendors just by searching for that. Good luck! I'll probably be asking you in however many months when I need a replacement again...
@@ryan_runs_ Thank you very much!!!
@@trexabyte9943 Anytime, happy drumming :)
@@ryan_runs_ Do you mind me asking how much it cost? I was hoping I could just rotate the cusion 90° as the two spots for my beateres are compressed in and the right side is so bad it triggers pretty terribly, but now I guess I know I can't do that. Saves me taking it apart and having a real issue with no backup though, I'll have to wait til I can get a whole new one
@@Fentonyl Don't mind at all, $46.57
Hi, thank you for this video, I could not figure out how to get the back off to take it apart!
Question, my issue seems to be that one of the red wires came away from the glue on the back of the sensor. Any ideas on reattaching it? Should I try to heat up the glue or maybe add some glue of my own to get it back in place?
If it were me, since I'm still someone who doesn't have any real knowledge about how the electronics actually work, I'd try to reproduce the original conditions as much as possible - I guess that might be an obvious statement, but other than that it's hard to say because I don't know if the glue is meant to conduct or isolate (it's probably forming a connection, right?), and I see your problem because it's hard to test without putting it all back together again!
You could test heating the glue with a hot nail or something, should be able to tell pretty quick if it'll reconstitute or not, but if you can still get the wire back into it's original place (if it came loose instead of broke off) then yeah you might be able to just add glue to keep it in place again.
Also how new is it? I think the KD-10 has a year warranty from Roland...
@@ryan_runs_ All great suggestions, and what I initially ended up doing was using a hairdryer to heat the glue, and I pulled it away to find out that the wire was actually disconnected from a soldering point. So I got out my soldering iron and a bit of solder and I reattached it. Thankfully, that did the trick, it worked right away after doing that. I used some electrical tape to resecure everything and I got it back together and it plays like new now. Thank you again for your video and your response!
@@yodude225 fantastic news, and I appreciate the info! Happy drumming :)
Hello can please send details where did you order the new cushion?
Thanks
It started as a support request that I did at this link: www.roland.com/backstage/support#product_support. Eventually they decided it wasn't under warranty so they gave me this number to call: (323) 890-3700 ext 7710. Hopefully one of those works!
Thanks very much. Do you remember the cost?
@@PanosRodopoulos 46.57 USD :)
Great vid thanks! Though I have a firm dent in the bassdrumhead after 1 1/5 year playing ( just with a plastic beater ! ) I do hope I never need this video 🤞
7 months later and my dent is going strong!
@@ryan_runs_ I was a little late with a bassdrum patch. But let’s see how long the drumhead will last. 🤞
@@toustin great idea, honestly a decent patch might've been enough instead of replacing the cushion
@@ryan_runs_ I’ve put it on for two months now, it just might prevent the head from going to ruin.
The double hits sound like a false trigger. I’m actually having issues with that false trigger on my Kd-10
No doubt it's possible, mine's just is just a little bouncy is all, but it gets better with use. And if I'm precise with it then it's fine, if I'm tired or sloppy then it'll bounce. I believe there's a way to account for it with the TD-07 but I haven't dug into it yet, I'll post here when I do!
Thanks for the video. Mine is almost gone. As I strike the bottom part of the pad (my beater is lower) i was hoping to rotate it 180 degrees and be done but I see there is a notched area in it so it fits in an exact position. Do you think this matters? A new notch should be doable right? and at the end of the day it seems to be the glue what stops it from moving, so I could use double-sided tape. Was hoping to get your thoughts before I dismantle and find out the hard way. 😂 Thanks
My pad was notched on both sides so turning it around 180 degrees should work great. If not I'd say a new notch wouldn't be hard, maybe even just cut a slit and that would be enough. And if you can remove it cleanly enough you might be able to re-stick it with the existing sticker. Double-sided tape might also be enough but I'd say you definitely want something solid as a disconnect there might affect detection. Either way the casing holds it pretty well in place too, but you'll know pretty quick if it's not connected right. Good luck!
@@ryan_runs_ sounds 👍 thanks for taking the time to reply.
@@montyoomska anytime!
Thanks for making this. What a dumb design.
Happy to help, not exactly user-friendly is it!