It's not only a name for a modern generation videocards, also there were plenty of Soviet age vinyl/tapes/CD players, speakers and amplifiers etc. called "Vega" ("Вега").
My first PC came with a Trident 1MB SVGA card, I upgraded to a TSENG LABS ET4000 later. The Motherboard was an Asustek board with AMD 386DX40 I added a Cyrix Maths Co-Processor. Annoying I had the mainboard and bits until about 15 years ago when I threw it away, silly move in hindsight.
had this exact video card in our 286! Still remember futzing around with the dip switches on the back etc. Don't think we ever had a fancy monitor so it only ever ran the standard modes. was in service up until about 1994.
My teachers used to say it's immature to paint penises on you desk and homework and whatnot. They said that i would grow out of it. I'm 40 years old and i still find it hilarious
I have a Tulip TEVA2 card that is very similar to the VEGA card (but not the same). I know it supports 640x480 from the BIOS, but I never owned a TTL monitor capable of displaying that resolution and I could not get it to work with the GBS. I have a dump of the BIOS that I should probably run through ghidra or something like that.
@@TheRasteri I wrote a TSR in assembly once to get "route" the BIOS setmode call for 640x480 to the regular EGA HiRes mode (640x350). It actually proved useful, as it was also during this time that I was way into MOD music and had a player that would work on my system, but only at that VGA resolution. It worked, although obviously I was missing the bottom 130 lines of graphics. That was not much of a problem, since there were no GUI elements in that area.
I sometimes try to use one of those old AutoCAD versions, but I quickly realize how much easier the new ones are to use and let it go lol Interesting card, it would be cool if Fast Doom supported the higher resolution graphics modes for it
@@TheRasteri That would be sick. I actually really like the weird 16 color EGA pallet that Viti95 uses for FDOOM. It would cool to see it in a higher res mode so the character models looked clearer 😎
So ega in 1980... wow that was extreme high , had Wapping 16 colors and improved from the ugliest pink (or poop brown yellow) night to (nes kinda) 16 colors HD day, must have been crazy expansive back in the 80s
I recall some old card in my accessory building’s attic with DIP switches like that. Doubt I still have it since I had to abandon that building when the landlord sold the property to developers. Unfortunately, old unidentified hardware that I couldn’t even Google for were very low on my priorities.
Thank you for the video, you read about expanded video cards in wikis but you hardly ever get the name and models listed. EGA 640x350 kind of bugs me retrospectively because 80x30 ASCII would work using 640x360 instead or 360/30=12 as in a nice clean 8x12 character resolution. Just 10 measly rows short, ah so the monitor spec limit is why we had 350 tall.🤔 Hence why someone would make a 480p compliant EGA card, 80x30 ASCII with the standard 8x16 character. I don't dislike EGA but the whole CGA monitor compatibility failsafe setup meant so few games ever used the full 64-color system palette.☹ Also the default colors were still pretty loud that I think one more generation of Composite Artifact Color output was warranted for the video card standard. That is the rub of higher than standard, you form a hardware and driver island that others have to support or don't heh, plus pairing it with a compatible monitor too. Regardless very cool screen modes by that card.😁
Hey Andy, was watching an older mail video on LGR's channel and saw your X86 based micro industrial pc contribution so i hurried over to your channel to subscribe and show you some support. Any friend of LGR's is a friend of mine. I'm looking forward to binge watching your channel! -Buddy
It won't get into Windows. VGA is a requirement for all Windows NT based operating systems, there is no ega or cga fall back even with NT 3.1, VGA is the fallback. VGA bios emulation wont cut it you need real VGA. the XP startup screen requires VGA. BSODs even require VGA.
Vega seems to be a popular name for video cards.
It's not only a name for a modern generation videocards, also there were plenty of Soviet age vinyl/tapes/CD players, speakers and amplifiers etc. called "Vega" ("Вега").
Was the chevy vega popular among gpu engineers?
Nice to see The Retro Rocket again! That thing is just legendary.
Every retro PC gamer needs one
The Wangdala kind of made my day.
That’s numberwang!
Love the plotter reveal!
Great stuff, wasn't expecting the plotter bit at the end, wangdala is hilarious.
My first PC came with a Trident 1MB SVGA card, I upgraded to a TSENG LABS ET4000 later. The Motherboard was an Asustek board with AMD 386DX40 I added a Cyrix Maths Co-Processor. Annoying I had the mainboard and bits until about 15 years ago when I threw it away, silly move in hindsight.
Superb. Fun dive into the card and awesome plotter reveal - can’t wait to see more of that!
Pro installation on that GoTek. :) Doom looks absolutely psychedelic in EGA. Came for the EGA, stayed for the Wangs.
had this exact video card in our 286! Still remember futzing around with the dip switches on the back etc. Don't think we ever had a fancy monitor so it only ever ran the standard modes. was in service up until about 1994.
Just got a massive hit of nostalgia right to the chest with this video :)..
yeah, professional shots,
My teachers used to say it's immature to paint penises on you desk and homework and whatnot. They said that i would grow out of it. I'm 40 years old and i still find it hilarious
I have a Tulip TEVA2 card that is very similar to the VEGA card (but not the same). I know it supports 640x480 from the BIOS, but I never owned a TTL monitor capable of displaying that resolution and I could not get it to work with the GBS.
I have a dump of the BIOS that I should probably run through ghidra or something like that.
That is interesting. Presumably uses similar software tricks
@@TheRasteri I wrote a TSR in assembly once to get "route" the BIOS setmode call for 640x480 to the regular EGA HiRes mode (640x350). It actually proved useful, as it was also during this time that I was way into MOD music and had a player that would work on my system, but only at that VGA resolution. It worked, although obviously I was missing the bottom 130 lines of graphics. That was not much of a problem, since there were no GUI elements in that area.
Your Voice is Perfect for commercial 😁
I sometimes try to use one of those old AutoCAD versions, but I quickly realize how much easier the new ones are to use and let it go lol
Interesting card, it would be cool if Fast Doom supported the higher resolution graphics modes for it
As the vega deluxe supports kinda-vga-emulation, all that might be required is a 16 colour VGA version of fastdoom
@@TheRasteri That would be sick. I actually really like the weird 16 color EGA pallet that Viti95 uses for FDOOM. It would cool to see it in a higher res mode so the character models looked clearer 😎
Saw the Columbia model in AutoCAD and my mind wandered. Then the ending came, perfect.
That plotter is super cool
Whats the expansion port/board on the Vega board for?
More VRam?
Get it so that it can play Crysis.
^.^
It's just a feature connector.
So ega in 1980... wow that was extreme high , had Wapping 16 colors and improved from the ugliest pink (or poop brown yellow) night to (nes kinda) 16 colors HD day, must have been crazy expansive back in the 80s
This is from 1987, the IBM PC wasn't even out in 1980. Or did you mean to type 80's? 😅
@@Nukle0n yeah 80s but I don't know exact date I just know ega was a big deal back then
Mmmm adaptive tile refresh. nom nom nom!
I to own a ridiculous HP plotter. The 7576a Draftpro EXL. It also the best thing Ive ever putchased.
aww man you didnt even smell it when you opened it
I recall some old card in my accessory building’s attic with DIP switches like that. Doubt I still have it since I had to abandon that building when the landlord sold the property to developers. Unfortunately, old unidentified hardware that I couldn’t even Google for were very low on my priorities.
Wangadala ... a man of culture I see....
Cool piece of hardware. I wish shipping wasn't so expensive and hazardous. I'd ship you a giant multisync monitor collecting dust in my basement
Bonus psuedo Kinks at the end
I bought a 5160 that had one of these in it, Sold a few months back.
Good Video, Not my stuff but it was interesting 👍
No 64 color EGA games?
There is no EGA mode that can show all 64 colors at the same time. Many games used customized palettes for title screens and such, though.
@@IkarusKommt i thought there were some low res high color modes for games like Sim City? But maybe not
Thank you for the video, you read about expanded video cards in wikis but you hardly ever get the name and models listed.
EGA 640x350 kind of bugs me retrospectively because 80x30 ASCII would work using 640x360 instead or 360/30=12 as in a nice clean 8x12 character resolution. Just 10 measly rows short, ah so the monitor spec limit is why we had 350 tall.🤔
Hence why someone would make a 480p compliant EGA card, 80x30 ASCII with the standard 8x16 character. I don't dislike EGA but the whole CGA monitor compatibility failsafe setup meant so few games ever used the full 64-color system palette.☹ Also the default colors were still pretty loud that I think one more generation of Composite Artifact Color output was warranted for the video card standard.
That is the rub of higher than standard, you form a hardware and driver island that others have to support or don't heh, plus pairing it with a compatible monitor too. Regardless very cool screen modes by that card.😁
A teenage girls? I guess I'm a teenage girl, then.
😍❤❤ TheRasteri and weird old hardware ❤️❤️😍
Hey Andy, was watching an older mail video on LGR's channel and saw your X86 based micro industrial pc contribution so i hurried over to your channel to subscribe and show you some support. Any friend of LGR's is a friend of mine. I'm looking forward to binge watching your channel! -Buddy
Is there an AutoCAD version of the ship from Flight of the Navigator you can plot out?
Haha, believe me I've been looking. I might have to make one
Loved that :)
Not nearly enough Richard Johnson’s in this video.
I did not add that apostrophe.
What would happen if you installed Windows xp on another card then swapped that one in? Would it boot and run xp in cga?
Unlikely, but I'll have to try one day
It won't get into Windows. VGA is a requirement for all Windows NT based operating systems, there is no ega or cga fall back even with NT 3.1, VGA is the fallback. VGA bios emulation wont cut it you need real VGA. the XP startup screen requires VGA. BSODs even require VGA.
Nice thumbnail 🍆
Reject remove dot bg, embrace 5 seconds in mspaint 👍
Lol great ending
Noice
obligatory.
*promo sm*
Has someone EVER destroyed a monitor with the wrong video mode??? What a bunch of nonsense...
You can indeed damage or even destroy a CRT with the wrong video mode. Even modern multisync ones.
Yes I have - a couple in fact - One of them was an Iiyama too - so abandon all notions of it being impossible.
You can destroy other devices by overclocking them so I don't see why the same wouldn't be true of monitors
@@TheRasteriNot even overclocking in this case, too low and poof.
c====8, there's allways interesting in your videos Andrew. The GBS-C stills being very impressive for the price and availability.