Back in the day, a lot of developers did the dual monitor thing to put the debugger on the mono monitor, and their app on the color. I even had a trick in windows 3.x to have a dos "window" on the mono and the rest of windows on the vga
OMG i had that exact case! My dad got all these computers that were being used to play videos above ATM machines, it was before the Internet and they needed a drive bay behind a door that locked so they could put in a new CD full of videos when necessary but people couldn't open it and mess it up either on purpose or by accident. They were in another room and had ati all in wonder video cards that output to composite video and just ran a very long composite rca cable to wherever the ATMs were located in the building. Anyways when they ended that program we took them all out and I got to keep a few of them. They had Pentium 2s at like 233mhz iirc and that was the first machine I put linux on. I think it was redhat 6.2 that I bought from CompUSA because my dial up connection back then couldn't handle downloading all the isos lol
There was a not terribly well known but very high fidelity flight sim called Back to Baghdad that put you in the cockpit of an F16 over Iraq (duh). Came out in the early mid 90s. Anyway, as I said, high fidelity flight sim, and it did something I at the time didn't know was possible, it used a two monitor display, but the second monitor was of course monochrome, and you used it to simulate the F16's central radar display screen. Rather neat.
keeping old hardware alive i love it! to bad more people are not interested in preserving old tech to much good hardware ends up in the trash use to have a voodoo 3 system from back in the day in storage someone through it out that was years ago but still not happy about that not easy to find those and when you do they cost so much or are broken
Nice! this is your smallest DOS computer yet! wait... (BTW, Voodoo 2 output always seemed to be dark, I don't know why that was. I remember back in the day having to fuck with the gamma settings in windows to get it halfway usable)
That 3d-printed bracket for the SD card holder is really handy! Especially since none of the holes on the adapter seem to be standard. I wonder what they're meant for at all, at that rate...
That dual monitor thing is a useful bit of information. I made a short text adventure for Ludum Dare awhile back, using Borland Turbo C++ 3 on an old Gateway 486 I have. If I ever try something more complex, being able to debug like you showed would be great.
When you play Build Engine games, do you use BMOUSE? It's an external mouse driver that you can link in each game's setup options, which delivers smoother control than the built-in mouse driver. The normal Build Engine driver has a limitation of only being able to read/update the vertical or horizontal movement at any given moment, but BMOUSE is capable of reading/updating both at the same time.
I've got an an identical industrial 19" rack mount case with lockable cover. Mine was equipped with a standard ATX motherboard, not like yours with the CPU card on its side. It was also equipped with eight BNC socket video capture card, and removable HDD bay. Obviously mine was a security CCTV recorder of some sort.
I'm sorry I haven't seen all of your videos, but I have a question: Have you ever tried using a 386DX based board with VLB support? Then you could use the 3Dfx Game Blaster VLB.
Very classic smell of old PCI card at ~10:00 and like from me for using smell'o'vision compatible camera... or maybe my brain also have bent pins? Anyways, nothing better than good old 90's PC equipement
I had one of those cases but the rear mounting was ATX. Came with a Pentium 2 motherboard, 256mb RAM, don't recall if it had a hard drive, but it did have an optical drive. Got rid of the case (too big, too heavy), kept the motherboard.
haha reminds me old DOS computers operating our biggest hydroelectric plant in my country,, we went there for high school excursion in 2010... basically huge white-grayish boxes that looked like a minifridge or microwave, but it was may be the i386 or i486, we saw it running DOS and some proprietary control software...
Doom in EGA is almost kinda spookier. I guess the odd tonemapping makes it seem extra otherworldly, with places bathed in shadow being completely dark.
yeah, I thought about putting an fx 5500 pci but since it probably lacks an agp bridge controller guess it won't work, other than that would be a mx400 or a matrox g450 pci, either way guess will not be that great of an increase in performance for xp stuff.
3:04 - "I'm not seeing a model number or anything like that." - I noticed that for some reason, hardware manufacturers don't want people to be able to identify their products. Maybe they're ashamed of them? Even when you buy a graphics or sound card new, does it have the same model number as on the box? Of course not. It has something like X65778-D5-RP and then you have to do a Google search to get the actual name.
Quake is faster on faster CPUs, just like on my video. It's because Doom wasn't screen buffered like Duke Nukem 3D and Quake but FastDoom port fixes it with FDoom13h.
Happy DOScember everyone!
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Hey mate it's been a while. Have you got something baking for us in the oven?
Keep up the good work! See you in the next video.
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@@Alice-Saber unfortunately intel chipsets after X99 can't do DMA over LPC, so no soundblasters in that ISA slot :(
7:32 you didnt plug in the power on the sd adapter....
Back in the day, a lot of developers did the dual monitor thing to put the debugger on the mono monitor, and their app on the color. I even had a trick in windows 3.x to have a dos "window" on the mono and the rest of windows on the vga
PICMG is such a fun thing to play around with, you can make some really cursed PCs with way to many slots.
OMG i had that exact case! My dad got all these computers that were being used to play videos above ATM machines, it was before the Internet and they needed a drive bay behind a door that locked so they could put in a new CD full of videos when necessary but people couldn't open it and mess it up either on purpose or by accident. They were in another room and had ati all in wonder video cards that output to composite video and just ran a very long composite rca cable to wherever the ATMs were located in the building. Anyways when they ended that program we took them all out and I got to keep a few of them. They had Pentium 2s at like 233mhz iirc and that was the first machine I put linux on. I think it was redhat 6.2 that I bought from CompUSA because my dial up connection back then couldn't handle downloading all the isos lol
I had absolutely no idea that there was an MS DOS port for Quake 2.
Probably runs better then windows one
There was a not terribly well known but very high fidelity flight sim called Back to Baghdad that put you in the cockpit of an F16 over Iraq (duh). Came out in the early mid 90s. Anyway, as I said, high fidelity flight sim, and it did something I at the time didn't know was possible, it used a two monitor display, but the second monitor was of course monochrome, and you used it to simulate the F16's central radar display screen. Rather neat.
You know it's an industrial computer when it doubles up as a stand that can support old school monitors.
These things are the Nokias of the PC world ... I have some of them too and you can easyly stand on these cases without fear of breaking them.
12:45 Super MINSTREL 64 is not something I thought I'd hear in my life
Great video. While you don't put out regular videos on TH-cam, whatever you do is always among the best. Happy DOScember.
Nice topic. Thanks for bringing the idea and ress a Voodoo 2
You are THE MAN!!!! Thank you very much. I wish you a merry christmas!
Always a pleasure to see new retro computing content on this channel!
Hope we'll see you again someday Andy, love your style of project.
keeping old hardware alive i love it! to bad more people are not interested in preserving old tech to much good hardware ends up in the trash use to have a voodoo 3 system from back in the day in storage someone through it out that was years ago but still not happy about that not easy to find those and when you do they cost so much or are broken
Nice! this is your smallest DOS computer yet! wait...
(BTW, Voodoo 2 output always seemed to be dark, I don't know why that was. I remember back in the day having to fuck with the gamma settings in windows to get it halfway usable)
That 3d-printed bracket for the SD card holder is really handy! Especially since none of the holes on the adapter seem to be standard. I wonder what they're meant for at all, at that rate...
That dual monitor thing is a useful bit of information. I made a short text adventure for Ludum Dare awhile back, using Borland Turbo C++ 3 on an old Gateway 486 I have. If I ever try something more complex, being able to debug like you showed would be great.
Pretty cool that it actually says Industrial Computer on it :D
There’s a port of SM64 that has a modern control scheme. You might be able to have a bit more fun playing that
When you play Build Engine games, do you use BMOUSE? It's an external mouse driver that you can link in each game's setup options, which delivers smoother control than the built-in mouse driver. The normal Build Engine driver has a limitation of only being able to read/update the vertical or horizontal movement at any given moment, but BMOUSE is capable of reading/updating both at the same time.
I’m embarrassed to only discover this in jan 2024. This should have been a Christmas treat.
Nice PC. I will keep an eye out for one to add to my collection. And I have always wanted to do that duel monitor thing.
very cool dos/win98se pc... also that dual crt dos setup is so cool.. does it work with VGA + hercules as well?
yep - I tried that in another video! - th-cam.com/video/vwKA1z8tg1g/w-d-xo.html
I've got an an identical industrial 19" rack mount case with lockable cover. Mine was equipped with a standard ATX motherboard, not like yours with the CPU card on its side. It was also equipped with eight BNC socket video capture card, and removable HDD bay. Obviously mine was a security CCTV recorder of some sort.
Where is the mario port from? Should try systemshock or retrocity rampage 486 edition.
github.com/fgsfdsfgs/sm64-port :)
GREAT VIDEO. It would be awesome to upgrade the hardware to the max ! :D
Almost Case Twins! I have that same case in ATX
5:53 some of the capacitors around the CPUs seems to be swollen
I'm sorry I haven't seen all of your videos, but I have a question: Have you ever tried using a 386DX based board with VLB support? Then you could use the 3Dfx Game Blaster VLB.
i used back in the day as vga output was linking a sis 6326 8mb with 2x orchid righteous 3d 12mb cards
Black dust sounds like the name of a new low budget horror game or movie. 🤣
Or goldusts cousin in the old WWF.
Can you share the source for your 3d printed SD-IDE drive bay bracket? I'm looking for that exact model
www.thingiverse.com/thing:5500691
Thanks. If I can find someone to print it I'll give it a go. Always a pitty those sd to ide never came with a good rear metal mounting solution
those big cards are called VESA (VL-BUS)
Very classic smell of old PCI card at ~10:00 and like from me for using smell'o'vision compatible camera... or maybe my brain also have bent pins? Anyways, nothing better than good old 90's PC equipement
we had a system like that Running a CNC Plasma table..
I had one of those cases but the rear mounting was ATX. Came with a Pentium 2 motherboard, 256mb RAM, don't recall if it had a hard drive, but it did have an optical drive. Got rid of the case (too big, too heavy), kept the motherboard.
haha reminds me old DOS computers operating our biggest hydroelectric plant in my country,, we went there for high school excursion in 2010... basically huge white-grayish boxes that looked like a minifridge or microwave, but it was may be the i386 or i486, we saw it running DOS and some proprietary control software...
I have that case but one of the handles is sadly missing. really spoils the look and everything :(
Doom in EGA is almost kinda spookier. I guess the odd tonemapping makes it seem extra otherworldly, with places bathed in shadow being completely dark.
I'm curious, what was the included sound card? No gameport, no wonder, but, why would a machine like this even need sound?
It's just a header for the builtin AC97 audio. I imagine sound would be useful for audio alerts and stuff in some applications
I always like rackmount PC cases, so chunky and sturdy.
Great video!
Would you like a stack of ten more of those industrial PCs? P4 and P3 mixed .... :P
lol, I'd certainly take the motherboards from them
17:30 Cursed
I think it needs to be chunkyer!
Looks pretty good 😊😊😊👍
Just put soundcards in all of those slots and then make them all play at once, run it through a mixing board, and make them harmonize with each other.
Happy Doscember
Nice!, Love industrial PCs
surprisingly eaerly on these videos, not often some empty comment section.
yeah, I thought about putting an fx 5500 pci but since it probably lacks an agp bridge controller guess it won't work, other than that would be a mx400 or a matrox g450 pci, either way guess will not be that great of an increase in performance for xp stuff.
I always thought Quake’s software renderer looked better too!
I want to see some curls. For the gains.
3:04 - "I'm not seeing a model number or anything like that." - I noticed that for some reason, hardware manufacturers don't want people to be able to identify their products. Maybe they're ashamed of them?
Even when you buy a graphics or sound card new, does it have the same model number as on the box? Of course not. It has something like X65778-D5-RP and then you have to do a Google search to get the actual name.
I see: Handles - I like.
I had to laugh when I saw Windoze in the menu!
Quake is faster on faster CPUs, just like on my video. It's because Doom wasn't screen buffered like Duke Nukem 3D and Quake but FastDoom port fixes it with FDoom13h.
Holy shit I'd like to build a sleeper in that case.
you can rack mount it in a normal server rack be cool if you get more rack hardwhere you can make a DOS pc rack
Great stuff.
VGA!
I read this 3 times as “massive d0ng computer” - I was very confused.
With that many slots, I wonder if there's a way to run more than 1 CPU card simultaneously.
ah stock p4 coolers, how I have zip tied so many of those chunks of shit
Is this a 32 bit machine? You could run half- life!
You could hide a weecee in there
I could hide 100 of them, heh
capacitors on cpu board dont looks good
Interesting
Noice.
Since when does super Mario 64 have racism mode lmao
Really