Completely agree with the 17x17x17. It’s always funny to tell a non-cuber that adding more layers doesn’t contribute to the difficulty, because they never believe you anyway! 😂
Ikr, I had a friend who knew nothing about cubing ask me if I could solve that because I showed him a picture and when I said probably yeah and tried to explain to him why he just wouldn't believe me lol
Not really, that rule really only applies if you know how to solve up to a 7x7. For cubes larger than 3x3 you need to know edge pairing and commutators. The 4x4 also has some annoying paritys that you would need to learn algorithms for as well.
I mean, it's actually pretty easy if you know how to solve a 5x5, just that it's more tedious and takes longer to solve, and God forbid you get a parity.
It's more relative than anything, some are seemingly hard for anyone and anyone can solve it but for a 17x17 again about anyone thinks its hard but the people who can't do a 17x17 (i think if you can solve 5x5-7x7 you can) will think its still hard but for people who can solve it will find it easier
Dude, the pyraminx looks so much harder than it is. My dad gave me one a couple years ago and I thought, "Why would you even give me something like this? I can't even solve a normal Rubik's cube." A couple days ago I decided to look for a couple tutorials on how to do it and now I can solve it easily. Totally expected it to be in this video
the gear ball is just a gear cube turned into a sphere... but there is more step to solve it because the edges have 2 colours on their ends, unlike the gear cube ones
Very interesting puzzle and indeed something I've noticed as well. Noncubers often overestimate puzzles. I've got a lot of puzzles that are easier to solve than the regular 3x3 but look harder. For instance I have a Square-1 on my desk that next to a Moyu wheel of time. Recently, somebody saw me using the wheel of time and thought that it was extremely challenging (people seem to connect number of pieces with difficulty). A Square-1 doesn't look that intimidating although it is quite hard. But beside those hard-looking easy puzzles and the easy looking hard ones there are still a lot of puzzles that look exactly as hard as they are. My Square-4 is the best example. Yesterday I managed to solve a Square-2 but still am not able to beat the Beast. Are you good at Square-x puzzles?
Yeah when I got the gear cube a while ago, I thought it was going to be so difficult. Then I realized that you can't really scramble the sides lol. They just twist. I like to use that cube to mess with my friends!
The gear cube is definitely a good place to start as it works in a completely different way from a standard 3x3, however, also consider 3x3 shape mods, puzzles which work like a 3x3 rubiks cube which are more difficult due to being able to change shape. The Fisher cube is a good example of this.
This is true. I also have a mirror cube that was so confusing at first too, having to match pieces by shape rather than by colour. But now I can solve it quite smoothly. But I have an even more confusing 3x3x3 shape mod which is Meffert's Morph Egg. I was so stuck with this one at first. The shape makes pieces even harder to match with each other and because the puzzle has a few identical pieces as well as two pieces that look the same in every orientation, there are some funny problems you wouldn't get on a regular cube. Sometimes you have to swap identical pieces around to fix parity.
I don't think it's the same. You can always solve the edges. Something else happens instead. If you swap one of the edge pieces for another, you'll end up with a single center rotated by 90 degrees.
Ohhhh, so its to do with edge permutation. I see, this wouldn't be noticeable on a Fisher cube, (if you build your cross on white or yellow faces), since the white and yellow centres have no permutation. And it wouldn't happen on an Axis Cube, (another mod I own), where each edge has a clear permutation. But on the Morph Egg you could definitely put edges in the incorrect position without noticing. That's interesting to know thanks for telling me about this parity.
I am a puzzle collector and I tell all my "wannabe" friends to buy every shape-mods they can, plus the "basic" cubes (2x2, 3x3, 4x4) and only one "big", at most the 7x7 - because I always say: "don't waste your money buying anything bigger than a 7x7, because solving a 17x17 is just as fun as solving a 5x5, and LESS FUN than solving a 4x4 (this is the point when they ask: "why?", and I tell them something about parity cases). And not mentioning the fact that huge cubes are boring. So, to sumarise, for beginners, this is a very cool basic collection: a) Get one of each basic: 2x2, 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5; b) Get just ONE big cube, if you can waste some bucks, but go preferably for even-numbered ones (I recomend a 8x8, for best cost/benefit ratio); c) Get all shape-mods you find (Ghost, Axis, Mirror, Skewb, etc); d) Get at least one megaminx and one megamorphix (if money is not a concern, get also a 5x5 version of the megaminx, I forgot its name); e) Get one pyraminx (easy, but essential in a collection) and, if possible, a 5x5 pyraminx. f) Get the "square-1". After geting these ones, you are hooked, just keep searching and have fun!
I thought that when he pulled out the 17x17 he was joking, but then I remembered the recursive nature of nxn cubes which means that the 17x17 isn't the easiest, it just looks a lot harder
Now _that_ was a smooth transition!!! Not even kidding! I was sitting here thinking: yes, exactly! thats what I'm always telling people too.......oh, ad time already? Nice job on that one!
Hi Kenneth, just got back into twisty puzzles since the eighties, and your videos and reviews have been very helpful in my purchases. Quick question, there is a cube on the shelf seen in the middle of the screen of this video with a yellow face facing the camera that resembles the box from the Hellraiser movies. What's the name of that puzzle? Thanks!
I think it might be a good idea to scramble and solve a 4x4 cube under these rules, 1) scramble like a 2x2, 2) do center switch like 3x3. Would you make a video about this idea?
One of my class mates says he can easily solve a 3x3 but never does even if he keeps telling me he can he says he has a 3x3 and 2x2 and is telling me he’s going to get a 17x17 he doesn’t even know how to solve a 4x4
The Dino Dodecahedron is slightly harder than the Curvy Dino Cube because it's edges can get flipped. Takes a little bit of thinking to work it out the first time you solve it. Still a great puzzle though.
Kenneth do you have a PO box? I wanted to send you a puzzle from Brazil that I don't think you've seen. It is a very easy but fun puzzle after you learn it.
I'd add the megaminx to the list. I bought it expecting a challenge, but was able to solve it first try with the exact same methods I'd use for a normal 3x3.
Another deceptively easy puzzle is the Kepler Cube. Basically a 3x3 with a Trajber's Octahedron inside it. One time on cam I stumbled across this puzzle on pCubes and I thought that was hard, but once I solved the outer 3x3 I noticed that the inner Trajber's Octahedron is also solved (excluding the centers), and after solving the centers the puzzle is solved. Woaj.
I think the Megaminx and the Mirror Cube are also deceptively easy puzzles. Because their soultions are very likely to the 3x3 Rubik's cube. In fact, when I got the Megaminx for first time I though "oh boi thats hardcore", but it's actually super simple if you can solve the 3x3 cube. btw cool video
around 1:30 RedKb Ken mentions that people come and pick up the puzzle and you talk to them about it. So does that mean you have many people over to see your collection? or am i reading too much into that? :P
hi RedKB, I saw your previous video, it's great ! For me, the Qubami (by Kelvin Stott) is the hardest 3x3 mod I've ever tried. What makes it really difficult is that every Qubami has its own symbol and color patterns so there is no way to systematic method to solve it. Here's a picture of mine, in its solved state : asthalis.free.fr/photos/cubes/nxn_3x3_qubami.jpg
Gear Shift is a weird one. You think it is really easy when looking at it but it ends up being a lot harder. However, after you learn how to solve it. It is extremely easy.
If people think the 17x17x17 is hard, let me explain something to you. First when you're young, you learn single digits Math. Then you learn double digits and you realize it's not much different. Then you move on to triple digits, and you notice a pattern. It's the same thing everytime, except it just takes longer. Just like the 17x17x17
I think the mirror cube should’ve been on this list. I had one for months before I scrambled it just in case I couldn’t get it back. I was bored one day so I scrambled it and soon realised it was just a glorified 3x3 lol
Hey Red i wanted to ask why you use corners first method for 3x3 i learned to solve the rubiks cube around one ago from you and i use cfop and am faster than you not trying to look cool but seriously you could be very fast with any other method
I dont think he is into speedcubing that much anyway, and since he learn corner first beforehand, changing method for no practical purposes will be hard. Atleast that what i think
He has a point of the 17x17x17. This is called deceptively easy puzzles. Not easy puzzles. So, a puzzle in this list can still be a challenge, like the 17x17x17. It's basically a 7x7x7 but with a lot more pieces, and if your really good at 7x7x7, you can probably solve that. I just don't agree with the number in this list
Haha, so many channels I watch already direct me to that brilliant.org site! But yeah. The Curvy Dino Cube seems to be pretty much the same as the Redi Cube which I already have. Fun puzzle even if easy. :)
If you keep doing puzzles like these for your whole lifetime, you will get little to none memory loss. Same thing with chess and I’m sure many other mind games like these.
The hardest part about solving the 17x17 is buying it.
Have fun getting that $750
That’s why I don’t got one
Lol true
The hardest thing is to pickup and do algs on it
lol
Honestly, I have to agree that the 17x17 is much easier than it looks.
CatProductions95 it actually is. it just takes really long
@@cctproductions6976 if you can solve a 7x7 you can solve a 17x17 in fairness
Completely agree with the 17x17x17. It’s always funny to tell a non-cuber that adding more layers doesn’t contribute to the difficulty, because they never believe you anyway! 😂
Ikr, I had a friend who knew nothing about cubing ask me if I could solve that because I showed him a picture and when I said probably yeah and tried to explain to him why he just wouldn't believe me lol
KasabianFan44 ikr
Does this mean, as someone who has only solved 2x2 and 3x3 in the cubes lineup, could I solve the 4x4 just from what I know?
Not really, that rule really only applies if you know how to solve up to a 7x7. For cubes larger than 3x3 you need to know edge pairing and commutators. The 4x4 also has some annoying paritys that you would need to learn algorithms for as well.
I mean, it's actually pretty easy if you know how to solve a 5x5, just that it's more tedious and takes longer to solve, and God forbid you get a parity.
17x17
It is massive.
It is decieving.
It is intimidating.
It is 500 USD
Bam Bik $750 on TheCubicle and SpeedCubeShop
It is easy
Diatomic - Brawl Stars wh-
The puzzle doesn't phase me. The price does
*Let's give a 17x17 to a beginner cuber :D*
We will be here for a while lol
Uhh I did't even solve a 3x3 yet well kind of.
It's more relative than anything, some are seemingly hard for anyone and anyone can solve it but for a 17x17 again about anyone thinks its hard but the people who can't do a 17x17 (i think if you can solve 5x5-7x7 you can) will think its still hard but for people who can solve it will find it easier
The Felipes same
I mean if you can do 5x5 or 7x7 it’s just the same one a bigger scale
you missed the pyraminx. My friends all thought it would be super hard, but I solved it in like 15 minutes the first time, and I'm a beginner cuber.
Dude, the pyraminx looks so much harder than it is. My dad gave me one a couple years ago and I thought, "Why would you even give me something like this? I can't even solve a normal Rubik's cube." A couple days ago I decided to look for a couple tutorials on how to do it and now I can solve it easily. Totally expected it to be in this video
@@duckman2430 Yeah I heard it's easier than a regular cube
@@mahranislam3554 its also easier than a 2x2!
I think you missed the gear ball.... one of the easiest puzzles I've solved but when I first got it I thought I would've never solved it
the gear ball is just a gear cube turned into a sphere... but there is more step to solve it because the edges have 2 colours on their ends, unlike the gear cube ones
Hockey Life gggggg
Hockey Life aa
Hockey Life me 2
Hockey Life HE IS THE OWNER NOT YOU
For the gear cube the longer you scramble it the easier it gets
That's the same with a 3x3
Blue_Squirrel nah
Blue_Squirrel it doesn’t get easier nor harder
Eric_T123 you still should do at least 10 moves to scramble it
MegaAgent J yeah
Very interesting puzzle and indeed something I've noticed as well. Noncubers often overestimate puzzles. I've got a lot of puzzles that are easier to solve than the regular 3x3 but look harder. For instance I have a Square-1 on my desk that next to a Moyu wheel of time. Recently, somebody saw me using the wheel of time and thought that it was extremely challenging (people seem to connect number of pieces with difficulty). A Square-1 doesn't look that intimidating although it is quite hard.
But beside those hard-looking easy puzzles and the easy looking hard ones there are still a lot of puzzles that look exactly as hard as they are. My Square-4 is the best example. Yesterday I managed to solve a Square-2 but still am not able to beat the Beast. Are you good at Square-x puzzles?
I don't even know how to SCRAMBLE A 3X3
I'm a beginner tho
Yeah when I got the gear cube a while ago, I thought it was going to be so difficult. Then I realized that you can't really scramble the sides lol. They just twist. I like to use that cube to mess with my friends!
2:52 “All you have to do is say I wanna move that piece there and it moves”
Me: *Looks at Rubik’s cube*
Me: SOLVE
Thank for the video.l do not own any non wca puzzles , maybe l can start with any 1 of the 6 mentioned in the video.
The gear cube is definitely a good place to start as it works in a completely different way from a standard 3x3, however, also consider 3x3 shape mods, puzzles which work like a 3x3 rubiks cube which are more difficult due to being able to change shape. The Fisher cube is a good example of this.
This is true. I also have a mirror cube that was so confusing at first too, having to match pieces by shape rather than by colour. But now I can solve it quite smoothly. But I have an even more confusing 3x3x3 shape mod which is Meffert's Morph Egg. I was so stuck with this one at first. The shape makes pieces even harder to match with each other and because the puzzle has a few identical pieces as well as two pieces that look the same in every orientation, there are some funny problems you wouldn't get on a regular cube. Sometimes you have to swap identical pieces around to fix parity.
Does the Meffert's Morph Egg have the same edge parity as the Fisher Cube?
I don't think it's the same. You can always solve the edges. Something else happens instead. If you swap one of the edge pieces for another, you'll end up with a single center rotated by 90 degrees.
Ohhhh, so its to do with edge permutation. I see, this wouldn't be noticeable on a Fisher cube, (if you build your cross on white or yellow faces), since the white and yellow centres have no permutation. And it wouldn't happen on an Axis Cube, (another mod I own), where each edge has a clear permutation. But on the Morph Egg you could definitely put edges in the incorrect position without noticing. That's interesting to know thanks for telling me about this parity.
I am a puzzle collector and I tell all my "wannabe" friends to buy every shape-mods they can, plus the "basic" cubes (2x2, 3x3, 4x4) and only one "big", at most the 7x7 - because I always say: "don't waste your money buying anything bigger than a 7x7, because solving a 17x17 is just as fun as solving a 5x5, and LESS FUN than solving a 4x4 (this is the point when they ask: "why?", and I tell them something about parity cases). And not mentioning the fact that huge cubes are boring.
So, to sumarise, for beginners, this is a very cool basic collection:
a) Get one of each basic: 2x2, 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5;
b) Get just ONE big cube, if you can waste some bucks, but go preferably for even-numbered ones (I recomend a 8x8, for best cost/benefit ratio);
c) Get all shape-mods you find (Ghost, Axis, Mirror, Skewb, etc);
d) Get at least one megaminx and one megamorphix (if money is not a concern, get also a 5x5 version of the megaminx, I forgot its name);
e) Get one pyraminx (easy, but essential in a collection) and, if possible, a 5x5 pyraminx.
f) Get the "square-1".
After geting these ones, you are hooked, just keep searching and have fun!
very deceptive... he made deceptively hard, now goes for deceptively easy...
Thank u u got me in to cubing and I luv ur videos alright take care
I thought that when he pulled out the 17x17 he was joking, but then I remembered the recursive nature of nxn cubes which means that the 17x17 isn't the easiest, it just looks a lot harder
When you spend a longer amount of time trying to find a tutorial on the cube when you could have solved it yourself.
the one who dislikes this video cant even solve a 24 piece jigsaw puzzle
DOODpls lol
Can you even solve a 5 price of Jigsaw puzzle
@@jyotigajjar6163 I can solve a puzzle up to around 50 pieces if the time limit is an hour
Plus 83 ppl
Well looks like a childish comment
@@zahidnoor2267 same for you
17x17 is insanely expensive
Vuelo Travel Boutique not as expensive as the 33x33x33
its harder to buy than to solve
you may be right but this is a mechanics masterpiece
True
Vuelo Travel Boutique You have to work from a couple days to a month to make 750$ and you need just 5 hours to solve.
Now _that_ was a smooth transition!!! Not even kidding! I was sitting here thinking: yes, exactly! thats what I'm always telling people too.......oh, ad time already? Nice job on that one!
I think at first glance the redi cube looks kinda hard but than you realize its really similar to an intuitive pyraminx
People saying the 17x17 is hard buying...
but have you ever tried to search for a dogic puzzle? Those things are extremely rare!
Thank you for doing another top 5 video. Unboxing next? Or nemesis?
The gear cube is my favorite! It's so easy that it's hard to scramble without the first move being done already!
Hi Kenneth, just got back into twisty puzzles since the eighties, and your videos and reviews have been very helpful in my purchases. Quick question, there is a cube on the shelf seen in the middle of the screen of this video with a yellow face facing the camera that resembles the box from the Hellraiser movies. What's the name of that puzzle? Thanks!
I think it might be a good idea to scramble and solve a 4x4 cube under these rules, 1) scramble like a 2x2, 2) do center switch like 3x3. Would you make a video about this idea?
How are you today? Btw your one of my favorite TH-cam cubers
One of my class mates says he can easily solve a 3x3 but never does even if he keeps telling me he can he says he has a 3x3 and 2x2 and is telling me he’s going to get a 17x17 he doesn’t even know how to solve a 4x4
The Dino Dodecahedron is slightly harder than the Curvy Dino Cube because it's edges can get flipped. Takes a little bit of thinking to work it out the first time you solve it. Still a great puzzle though.
Kenneth do you have a PO box? I wanted to send you a puzzle from Brazil that I don't think you've seen. It is a very easy but fun puzzle after you learn it.
I'd add the megaminx to the list. I bought it expecting a challenge, but was able to solve it first try with the exact same methods I'd use for a normal 3x3.
Love your vids plz keep up the videos like these I've told all my friends about you.😌
the pyraminx duo is my no 1
Where did you buy your cubes?... coz im looking for some cubes like yours too... i'ts so cool
Cool! Nice video!
You should do a cube giveaway
Another deceptively easy puzzle is the Kepler Cube. Basically a 3x3 with a Trajber's Octahedron inside it. One time on cam I stumbled across this puzzle on pCubes and I thought that was hard, but once I solved the outer 3x3 I noticed that the inner Trajber's Octahedron is also solved (excluding the centers), and after solving the centers the puzzle is solved. Woaj.
Love your videos and also,because of this video I bought a gear cube thanks it's super easy
I love the gear cube
I think the Megaminx and the Mirror Cube are also deceptively easy puzzles. Because their soultions are very likely to the 3x3 Rubik's cube. In fact, when I got the Megaminx for first time I though "oh boi thats hardcore", but it's actually super simple if you can solve the 3x3 cube.
btw cool video
The curvy Dino is actually just a more curvy version of a puzzle called the “compy cube”
hi redkb your my faverite youtuber i love the gear ball it is pretty easy
thank you for this vid it is so cool i can not wait for more!
The Pyraminx Duo is sold out in all sites. Any page where i can buy it?
Is the curvy dino cube just a redi cube but with center pieces?
The curvy Dino cube is like a redi cube
you're right. The Redi does not have centers but it really does not make it more difficult
Toxic Cuber Compy Cube*
Is the Curvy dino cube just a Redi Cube with centers?
Hi I love your videos it helped me solve a Rubik's cube
What are the primary differences between the ghost cube and insanity cube?
Have you ever solved a Peters black hole puzzle?
I wish I can figure out commutators one day. I solved a 9x9, but the last two centers were completely chaotic.
Can you please tell how to solve a cara pribadi hexagon cube
what is a cara pribadi hexagon cube
Pyraminx looks really hard for some people, but that thing is pretty easy.
Isnt the gear ball basically the same thing as the gear cube?
You should add the pentacle to this list
number 4 is just a redi cube
around 1:30 RedKb Ken mentions that people come and pick up the puzzle and you talk to them about it. So does that mean you have many people over to see your collection? or am i reading too much into that? :P
+markmark410 That's at work. There I usually have a small collection maybe 5 puzzles. The curvy dino cube has been there for about a year.
Is the curvy Dino cube like a readi cube
It is, it just has different looking cuts
Keep it up
And I’m early
I agree with all of them
There is a cube on the second shelf on the far left that's purple and red. What cube is that or is there something wrong with your camera
It's a blue insanity cube.
number 4 is basically a redi cube with centers
Love your videos!
I wouldn't have expected to see the dogic in this list!
that promo though
have you ever tried to solve a Bagua Cube or a Qubami ? It's much harder than a 17x17.
+asthalis my previous video I solve a Bagua Cube. Haven't tried a Qubami
hi RedKB, I saw your previous video, it's great ! For me, the Qubami (by Kelvin Stott) is the hardest 3x3 mod I've ever tried. What makes it really difficult is that every Qubami has its own symbol and color patterns so there is no way to systematic method to solve it.
Here's a picture of mine, in its solved state :
asthalis.free.fr/photos/cubes/nxn_3x3_qubami.jpg
The curvy Dino cube looks like a version of the Redi cube
CanadianCuber 11 Compy Cube*
Gear Shift is a weird one. You think it is really easy when looking at it but it ends up being a lot harder. However, after you learn how to solve it. It is extremely easy.
The 17x17 part made me laugh so hard :)
The 17x17 does look hard, but maybe I could think of it differently.
awesome video!
I can't find the starminx anywhere :(
So curvy diamond is basically a fancy redi cube
This guy's last video was 4 years ago and just dipped after that
The curvy Dino cube looks exactly like a redi cube
Whats the one to the left of your mixup cube?
mosaic cube
So if you could could you make how to solve 4x4 or 5x5
Nice vid i subed liked ps:love youre vids keep up with the great work
If people think the 17x17x17 is hard, let me explain something to you. First when you're young, you learn single digits Math. Then you learn double digits and you realize it's not much different. Then you move on to triple digits, and you notice a pattern. It's the same thing everytime, except it just takes longer. Just like the 17x17x17
dude you're awesome
I think the mirror cube should’ve been on this list. I had one for months before I scrambled it just in case I couldn’t get it back. I was bored one day so I scrambled it and soon realised it was just a glorified 3x3 lol
My most deceptively easy puzzle is the Gigaminx!
Hey Red i wanted to ask why you use corners first method for 3x3 i learned to solve the rubiks cube around one ago from you and i use cfop and am faster than you not trying to look cool but seriously you could be very fast with any other method
I dont think he is into speedcubing that much anyway, and since he learn corner first beforehand, changing method for no practical purposes will be hard.
Atleast that what i think
He has a point of the 17x17x17. This is called deceptively easy puzzles. Not easy puzzles. So, a puzzle in this list can still be a challenge, like the 17x17x17. It's basically a 7x7x7 but with a lot more pieces, and if your really good at 7x7x7, you can probably solve that. I just don't agree with the number in this list
Is the curvy dino cube like the redi cube?
Space Core alright thanks
Ily and Ur videos Ur awesome keep it up! :D
Haha, so many channels I watch already direct me to that brilliant.org site! But yeah. The Curvy Dino Cube seems to be pretty much the same as the Redi Cube which I already have. Fun puzzle even if easy. :)
U posted the video when I got by oh pb.
These puzzles all seemed hard to me (I have most of them) but they really are easy.
thank you for video, I now have found interesting cubes which will collect (by the way I Russian)
I can solve the gear cube, but not a 2x2 🤨
Nice video i wish I could have a channel like this someday
I just realized that the curvy Dino cube is just the redi cube
I like this list but I would have added skewb xtreme
cool, I also find these puzzles easy
Number 4 is like a redi cube
If you keep doing puzzles like these for your whole lifetime, you will get little to none memory loss. Same thing with chess and I’m sure many other mind games like these.
I'm I the notification squad
Me seeing him scrambling the gear cube: N O
The Easiest Puzzle Issss
Me: The 1x1?
Video: The 17x17
Me: I cant even solve a 4x4....
deceptively easy puzzles, not easy puzzles