So many tips from Mike Kelley embedded in this (rather long) video, use the timestamps to uncover them all. One of my favorite quotes, "At a certain point in an architectural photographer's career we are all of equal skill; we can all take a good picture. The question becomes,' What makes us different?" Thanks to Mike and all the photographers who submitted work to the competition, I was blown away by your talent. Cheers...Eric
I never fully appreciated just how nuanced architectural photography can be. Thank you Eric and Mike for your unique perspectives. I learned an incredible amount about composition, process, and overall thinking when it comes to creating a beautiful photograph.
As both an Architect, and a photographer, it was really interesting to see each of of your takes on the different photos. Disciplines aside each of us will always have specific tastes and interests, and that's what makes our work unique! No one is wrong, and one one is right; it's just different.
Really great video! As a cabinetmaker, I always want to see my work highlighted, but when I step back and humble myself, I realize that it is the work of so many that in turn makes my work shine. I enjoyed the two perspectives from an architect and a photographer. Meshing those two together really enhances the quality of the photos. Great conversation! Thank you for the time and effort that went into this.
cant believe this is almost an hour long. feels like its only 20mins. enjoy every bit of a detail on each and very photo being discussed here. thanks a lot.
Im in architecture school starting my master now and this kind of video helps so incredibly much to get an idea about the perception and strength of images of architecture! Thank you!
Even though I have an interest in photography and an interest in architecture I hadn't though of how they overlap and interact with each other. This was a wonderful video with insight on how they work together and how to improve it
Hey Eric, been watching your videos since 2018 and I’ve read your books, I really appreciate the content you create especially videos like this where you have a discussion with other professionals giving feedback and sharing how you see the world. “Feedback is a gift” and I’d love to see more content like this. As a student applying to my university’s architecture program at the end of this month I know I can always turn to the 30x40 channel for answers to questions and new insights on all elements of practice such as photography.
Very insightful video, loved the whole conversation between both of you guys and I am glad to be the emerging artist winner for this year! Loved your analysis of Jameel art center shot, its completely real, there is no sky replacement but that is the effect you usually get when using a very long telephoto lens (200mm and above), it makes everything looks flat and 2D and with minor angle adjustments you can get rid of a lot of distractions in the frame or the background.
Cheers, my friend, congratulations! I so enjoyed your photos and your JAC shot jumped off the screen immediately. Thanks too for sharing this brilliant tidbit re: the lens choice. I'll look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.
It is hard to describe how much value comes from this interview. It is a really good idea having at the same table an architect and an architectural photographer. They are both very close to the architectural project but at the same time they have very different perspectives on it. Just thank you guys!!! You are the best. 💪
Awesome work Eric & Mike, thank you for the kind words and insightful critique of my images. Very stoked to hear I was one of your favorites! This is such a great video, will have to watch it a few times over again.
Cheers, Grant...loved your submissions, well done! Because the competition was blinded I couldn't tag the photographers in the video, for those who are curious to see Grant's entries in the Emerging Talent category, check them out starting at: 19:43
This video came just at the right time Eric, just got a hold of my first Canon 80D. Need to start my Journey in the Architectural Photography world as I jump into my second year of architectural school.
Enjoy that camera (my first was a 70d)...! Learning to use a camera has been life-changing for me...it helped me start this channel and it's made me a better architect. Good luck in archi school!
As someone who is an amateur photographer and who is planning to study architecture, this video is a real treasure to me. Thank you for this great and informative content!
Eric and Mike, 27:53 "a theme to your pick of Best" : one of my jobs during College in Santa Fe was delivery/pickup of Fine Art. I delivered purchased art from Galleries and Picked up new work from Artist's studios across the nation. Style of work aside, I was at Michael Atkinson's studio and remarked on a 36"x48" landscape with a 1"man near the bottom right, that his watercolors made me feel small. His shocked response was " maybe the best compliment ever".
So inspired by the images and the discussion between you & Mike. As a massive architecture fan, this almost makes me regret being a portrait photographer.
This is going to be useful. I'm just about to start a 7 week intensive 3DS Max architectural viz course. So learning how to compose the shots will overlap with digital viz. As it's still setting up cameras like in the real world, just digitally. I have been thinking of getting some photography books on composition etc. Thanks, great content as always my friend.
Hey Eric, I‘ve been watching you ever since I started getting more interested in architecture. When I watched you the first time nothing made sense to me because I had no knowledge and it was over a year until architecture school started. Now, I‘m in the 4th semester and the more I study, the more your choices make sense. It‘s been a journey watching you doing things which seemed like some sort of incognito code to me and now I understand a lot of details and your decision-making in the progress. I don‘t know much but I am ready to learn for the rest of my life so I can, one day, become a great architect just like you. Cheers
Cheers...appreciate the kind words and thanks for sharing your journey. Dig in, work hard and embrace the struggle, that's where all the magic happens!
Rather long is better in this very interesting conversation ( class ) and many good points to take from it. Always nice to hear two or more perspectives and theyre differente approach to a subject ( in this case Architectural Photography ) Thx for a good videoclass !
YES! I just been binge watching all Mike content I could find (his fstoppers episodes are the best!) recently, you are just in time! Totally didn't expected this but definitely waiting for more from you two! I would LOVE to see two of you doing real project together. You cinematography and photos are real exceptional so I am really curious how cooperation with architecture photography specialist would go :) Especially in terms of "photoshop it or leave it" - I love Mike's work however I tend to very often NOT to agree with way pros showcasing the house - changing window views, erasing some columns that doesn't look good etc... I think it can be OK for Vogue or other magazine shoot but it CAN'T be for offers photos, to me it's beyond tricking customer/buyer in my opinion.
That was a really great video. I'll definitely save it for inspiration and insights for the future. Thanks to both you and Mike for sharing your thoughts and knowledge :)
Had a pretty “critical” crit this week, curious as to how you would approach changing your design based on professor/juror’s critique? Growing process i suppose! Thanks!
I see I’ve got a long way to go. My first architectural photograph was a selfie with half my head, double chin grin and the exterior of the house was blurry 👍
I'm looking at an MCM in south Florida that has a fireplace and I have no idea what to do with it. One day a year it drops to 60 at night. I don't want to modify the architecture, but need an alternate use for this black hole in the wall. The photo with the fireplace made me think of this.
can you do a video on measurements. like i never know how long to make a garage wall or how tall walls to do. just like average sizes and maybe talking about other things related to measurements.
For the parking lot shot w the mosque , parking lots are almost *always * positioned in-front of the the structure so ppl don’t get late to go to the pray
There is something to be said about authenticity in representation. It's easy to manipulate images yet hard to show restraint. Are we capturing/uncovering ideas or fabricating them? Technical knowledge is great, creativity is great too, but when these two things modify or remove the essence or soul of the idea, you have to ask what is being accomplished?
Amazing talk with so many great tips and advice but I found that 99% of these look like 3D renders and not real photographs and I wondered would you be able to tell after post anyway? I really questioned the authenticity of most of these shots....they were all stunning but looked fake to me
The entries were anonymous (unfortunately), but you can see all the winners on the APA website: apalmanac.com/competitions/the-2021-project-of-the-year-award-winners-176559
Hi Heric, my name is gustavo I'm from Brazil, and in reality what you do for me is an unfulfilled dream here. I would like to know how you walked this successful path.
@@30by40 specifically to resolve a confusing alignment of the pendant cable with the exterior edge of the opening beyond. Panning involves simply turning the camera, which would keep that alignment. I am not sure of the exact term for it if it dolly doesn't work, but the station point of the view needs to move either just a hair to the right or just a hair to the left in order to free that cable from the lines beyond. Likewise for the adjacent pendant cable, which right now aligns with the corner beyond. It is a great series, don't get me wrong. I am just too obsessed with composition over subject most of the time, so small things like that are more noticeable to me than they should be. Thank you for the reply!
So many tips from Mike Kelley embedded in this (rather long) video, use the timestamps to uncover them all. One of my favorite quotes, "At a certain point in an architectural photographer's career we are all of equal skill; we can all take a good picture. The question becomes,' What makes us different?" Thanks to Mike and all the photographers who submitted work to the competition, I was blown away by your talent. Cheers...Eric
I never fully appreciated just how nuanced architectural photography can be. Thank you Eric and Mike for your unique perspectives. I learned an incredible amount about composition, process, and overall thinking when it comes to creating a beautiful photograph.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As both an Architect, and a photographer, it was really interesting to see each of of your takes on the different photos. Disciplines aside each of us will always have specific tastes and interests, and that's what makes our work unique! No one is wrong, and one one is right; it's just different.
Definitely wish I could’ve watched this before doing my architectural photography assignment this past semester! So insightful and informative!
Really great video! As a cabinetmaker, I always want to see my work highlighted, but when I step back and humble myself, I realize that it is the work of so many that in turn makes my work shine. I enjoyed the two perspectives from an architect and a photographer. Meshing those two together really enhances the quality of the photos. Great conversation! Thank you for the time and effort that went into this.
Glad you enjoyed it...and, well said!
More photography reviews, please! It's really fun and helpful.
Cheers...noted!
Thank you. This was extremely valuable for me. I create 3d renderings which is essentially photography. I’ll be rewatching this one.
Cheers...very similar skillsets indeed!
Favorite channel on TH-cam
Respect!
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cant believe this is almost an hour long. feels like its only 20mins. enjoy every bit of a detail on each and very photo being discussed here. thanks a lot.
cheers, Chris...glad you liked it!
Im in architecture school starting my master now and this kind of video helps so incredibly much to get an idea about the perception and strength of images of architecture! Thank you!
Even though I have an interest in photography and an interest in architecture I hadn't though of how they overlap and interact with each other. This was a wonderful video with insight on how they work together and how to improve it
Hey Eric, been watching your videos since 2018 and I’ve read your books, I really appreciate the content you create especially videos like this where you have a discussion with other professionals giving feedback and sharing how you see the world. “Feedback is a gift” and I’d love to see more content like this.
As a student applying to my university’s architecture program at the end of this month I know I can always turn to the 30x40 channel for answers to questions and new insights on all elements of practice such as photography.
Cheers...thanks for the feedback, my friend!
Very insightful video, loved the whole conversation between both of you guys and I am glad to be the emerging artist winner for this year! Loved your analysis of Jameel art center shot, its completely real, there is no sky replacement but that is the effect you usually get when using a very long telephoto lens (200mm and above), it makes everything looks flat and 2D and with minor angle adjustments you can get rid of a lot of distractions in the frame or the background.
Cheers, my friend, congratulations! I so enjoyed your photos and your JAC shot jumped off the screen immediately. Thanks too for sharing this brilliant tidbit re: the lens choice. I'll look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.
It is hard to describe how much value comes from this interview. It is a really good idea having at the same table an architect and an architectural photographer. They are both very close to the architectural project but at the same time they have very different perspectives on it. Just thank you guys!!! You are the best. 💪
cheers, glad you liked it!
As a 3d visualizer i think i learnt as much as a photographer would from this. thanks eric.
cheers...fantastic that you're studying these from a 3d viz standpoint...well done
Thank you to both of you. This was truly informative and felt genuine, not scripted or edited.
Awesome work Eric & Mike, thank you for the kind words and insightful critique of my images. Very stoked to hear I was one of your favorites! This is such a great video, will have to watch it a few times over again.
Cheers, Grant...loved your submissions, well done! Because the competition was blinded I couldn't tag the photographers in the video, for those who are curious to see Grant's entries in the Emerging Talent category, check them out starting at: 19:43
This video came just at the right time Eric, just got a hold of my first Canon 80D. Need to start my Journey in the Architectural Photography world as I jump into my second year of architectural school.
Enjoy that camera (my first was a 70d)...! Learning to use a camera has been life-changing for me...it helped me start this channel and it's made me a better architect. Good luck in archi school!
This was great. Love the educational content that Eric and Mike both put out there for everyone to use as a resource. Great work!
As someone who is an amateur photographer and who is planning to study architecture, this video is a real treasure to me. Thank you for this great and informative content!
Cheers...glad you liked it!
Loved the conversation and the amount time spent deconstructing the photographs!
I agree, good rapport with them and great balance of time on the photo and discussion
Eric and Mike, 27:53 "a theme to your pick of Best" : one of my jobs during College in Santa Fe was delivery/pickup of Fine Art. I delivered purchased art from Galleries and Picked up new work from Artist's studios across the nation. Style of work aside, I was at Michael Atkinson's studio and remarked on a 36"x48" landscape with a 1"man near the bottom right, that his watercolors made me feel small. His shocked response was " maybe the best compliment ever".
So inspired by the images and the discussion between you & Mike. As a massive architecture fan, this almost makes me regret being a portrait photographer.
This is going to be useful. I'm just about to start a 7 week intensive 3DS Max architectural viz course. So learning how to compose the shots will overlap with digital viz. As it's still setting up cameras like in the real world, just digitally. I have been thinking of getting some photography books on composition etc. Thanks, great content as always my friend.
Hey Eric, I‘ve been watching you ever since I started getting more interested in architecture. When I watched you the first time nothing made sense to me because I had no knowledge and it was over a year until architecture school started. Now, I‘m in the 4th semester and the more I study, the more your choices make sense. It‘s been a journey watching you doing things which seemed like some sort of incognito code to me and now I understand a lot of details and your decision-making in the progress. I don‘t know much but I am ready to learn for the rest of my life so I can, one day, become a great architect just like you. Cheers
Cheers...appreciate the kind words and thanks for sharing your journey. Dig in, work hard and embrace the struggle, that's where all the magic happens!
Absolutely awesome video! Congrats and keep up the awesome job!!
Rather long is better in this very interesting conversation ( class ) and many good points to take from it. Always nice to hear two or more perspectives and theyre differente approach to a subject ( in this case Architectural Photography ) Thx for a good videoclass !
cheers...thanks for watching!
YES! I just been binge watching all Mike content I could find (his fstoppers episodes are the best!) recently, you are just in time! Totally didn't expected this but definitely waiting for more from you two!
I would LOVE to see two of you doing real project together. You cinematography and photos are real exceptional so I am really curious how cooperation with architecture photography specialist would go :)
Especially in terms of "photoshop it or leave it" - I love Mike's work however I tend to very often NOT to agree with way pros showcasing the house - changing window views, erasing some columns that doesn't look good etc... I think it can be OK for Vogue or other magazine shoot but it CAN'T be for offers photos, to me it's beyond tricking customer/buyer in my opinion.
This was a very enjoyable conversation and it is nice to hear the different perspectives you each bring to looking at an image or a space.
Cheers, Chris...super fortunate to have other pros willing to freely share their hard won experiences with us!
That was a really great video. I'll definitely save it for inspiration and insights for the future. Thanks to both you and Mike for sharing your thoughts and knowledge :)
Great video, Eric! I was fortunate enough to be shortlisted, and it was really cool hearing your perspective on what makes a compelling photograph.
Cheers, Ethan, thanks for watching and for your submissions. That courtyard shot of yours...sublime!
🥰👍☺️🙏 info saved. Thanks Ar.
Great video! The insights were mind blowing! I am an architectural student and photographer and I learned a lot!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Simply brilliant. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Had a pretty “critical” crit this week, curious as to how you would approach changing your design based on professor/juror’s critique? Growing process i suppose! Thanks!
Hey Eric. Ton a valuable information. Really enjoyed hearing both perspectives of the same set of images.
Cheers, Tim...appreciate that. I love the new series on your YT channel, well done: th-cam.com/play/PLNBoDq0WjEICAo_LVpJtfpgfRtWxXJ2-7.html
I see I’ve got a long way to go. My first architectural photograph was a selfie with half my head, double chin grin and the exterior of the house was blurry 👍
I'm looking at an MCM in south Florida that has a fireplace and I have no idea what to do with it. One day a year it drops to 60 at night. I don't want to modify the architecture, but need an alternate use for this black hole in the wall. The photo with the fireplace made me think of this.
can you do a video on measurements. like i never know how long to make a garage wall or how tall walls to do. just like average sizes and maybe talking about other things related to measurements.
Awesome video!Love your work!
For the parking lot shot w the mosque , parking lots are almost *always * positioned in-front of the the structure so ppl don’t get late to go to the pray
a photo so good it looks like a render, I 100% agree if i took that photo id retire
I recognize 37:30, that's the Pedestrian Bridge in Providence, RI!
Hello Eric! Quick Question: Will ur Trace Sketchbook ever be available again? I would really like to buy one. Greetings from Germany
Hello, Lukas- tentative restocking date is May 16...thanks for your patience!
@@30by40 okay thanks for the quick answer!
Hope ill get one!
Such a good video, so much good content in this
The house on the island (yes it's in Norway) was featured at "The World's Most Extraordinary Homes" on Netflix. Season 2 Part B.
That was awesome! So many breathtaking photos... You should make a coffee table book out of these! I'd order the first one ;-) - Matt
Right...? The submissions were pretty humbling...
Great video!
15:40 I find the ski slopes very distracting; would it be okay to clone-stamp them out?
Thank you very much for this nice and informative video. Do you have a tablet that you use or recommend?
Yes, I do...details here: th-cam.com/video/PzQTJKPsGIU/w-d-xo.html
Hey man, been a watcher for a while. Been torn between Civ Eng & architecture. How’s employment outlook for architects fresh out of college?
There is something to be said about authenticity in representation. It's easy to manipulate images yet hard to show restraint. Are we capturing/uncovering ideas or fabricating them? Technical knowledge is great, creativity is great too, but when these two things modify or remove the essence or soul of the idea, you have to ask what is being accomplished?
Absolutely, I like how Mike addressed his approach to this at 17:58
We demand more videos Eric.
Cheers...always more in the pipeline...
Hi eric, this is out of topic comment but what do you think of metaverse? Real estate nft?
Raise your hand if you watched this video, and immediately wanted to go out to make architectural images...
Amazing talk with so many great tips and advice but I found that 99% of these look like 3D renders and not real photographs and I wondered would you be able to tell after post anyway? I really questioned the authenticity of most of these shots....they were all stunning but looked fake to me
46:13
What the Project's/house name? Or whose the photgrapher?
Amazing.
The entries were anonymous (unfortunately), but you can see all the winners on the APA website: apalmanac.com/competitions/the-2021-project-of-the-year-award-winners-176559
Problem with modern tech is that it’s made these industries so saturated it’s almost impossible to find work.
working on a project and would love you to be the designer for the architecture. Can we discuss?
Hi Heric, my name is gustavo I'm from Brazil, and in reality what you do for me is an unfulfilled dream here. I would like to know how you walked this successful path.
Cheers, mate...appreciate the kind words + support. Have you seen this video on my path yet: th-cam.com/video/0S2T6crurEE/w-d-xo.html
Ohh nice Great
COOL
I see portrait misused in many instances presented here. It has it's place, and uses. Many don't make the cut in my opinion.
Interesting...we didn't discuss framing much, but would be interested to learn more about your perspective here.
I would be curious to know, in simple terms, in what way portrait is misused? Cropping issues? Why portrait misused vs landscape? Thank you
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Podcast
First, hehe
52:18 needs to dolly to the right just about 20 or 30 cm
Or pan maybe? Some other nice compositions from that series...
@@30by40 specifically to resolve a confusing alignment of the pendant cable with the exterior edge of the opening beyond. Panning involves simply turning the camera, which would keep that alignment. I am not sure of the exact term for it if it dolly doesn't work, but the station point of the view needs to move either just a hair to the right or just a hair to the left in order to free that cable from the lines beyond. Likewise for the adjacent pendant cable, which right now aligns with the corner beyond. It is a great series, don't get me wrong. I am just too obsessed with composition over subject most of the time, so small things like that are more noticeable to me than they should be.
Thank you for the reply!