The Whole Tone Scale And Its Subsets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- This video explains the whole tone scale in depth, compares Debussy and Scriabin's use of the whole tone scale, and explains all of the subsets within the whole tone scale.
What's your favorite subset of the whole tone scale?
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Just recently got into set theory a lot, mostly through analysis for Scriabin's pieces, and your work is a goldmine for that. Thank you a ton for your work!
Cheers! Set theory is the way! 🙌
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this is fantastic, really well put-together and easy to follow. I wish i had videos like this when I was in school - I'd get to school at 7am so I could use the piano there to play chords, maybe get a aeborsold CD to solo over if i was lucky (yeah im old)
Haha thanks! I am indeed making these videos because I wish someone would have told me all this growing up!
Don't worry, you're not that old if you are referring to Aebersold CDs instead of cassette tapes. :-)
I'm so excited for the symmetry video, it's a subject that's always fascinated me
Great to hear someone else is fascinated by the topic! Stay tuned and I’ll totally make a series on it soon!
Superbly played. And what a great sound from your instrument! I played it again, with my eyes closed, and it was easy to imagine I was listening to a true grand piano in a vast auditorium.
The whole tone set in its entirety is my favourite subset, quartal voicing with the augmented fourth moved down an octave.
Favourite subset: 4-21
Sounds cool in PoE, used quite a bit (commonly voiced m7 TT m7, frequent in Sonata 4)
Cool voicing! (C Bb E D)
I can imagine that set in the 1st movement of sonata 4. Would you be able to describe where in sonata 4 this set is?
There's a place for the WTS in Summertime. I like to play it in 3rds ascending, as a fill during a break in the lyrics. There are lots of places for fills as the tempo is fairly languid.
Mmm nice! Would you be able to describe where I’m that song the WTS is?
Hello, thank you for taking up the interesting topic. I know how the full scale is structured. But where I’m still unsure is how the chords are formed on each individual whole tone level. For example, with C. Is C diminished or C augmented the right chord now? Or is that equally justified?
Are you asking how to build the whole tone scale on the two different unique places? Or are you asking what subsets you can build with it?
Augmented fits into the whole tone scale but diminished does not.
@@jaybeardmusic8074 ah ok thx . Sorry, I had a thought error. True C b5 is not diminished because of the big third.
I really just wanted to know what the standard triads are. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I Caug or C b5
II Daug or D b5
III Eaug or E b5
IV F#aug or F# b5
V G#aug or G# b5
VI A#aug or A# b5
Etc.. right? So there is no perfect 5th interval in the entire wholetone scale.
Indeed there’s no 5th (or half step or minor third) in the whole tone scale.
Those chords you mentioned are indeed triads of the WT scale, but there are more. I prefer to just write out the pitches (I assume C b5 is C E F#).
So if I’m to list each triad in the WT scale I’d say there’s the do re me set (C D E). Now the 7th chord set includes both (C D F#) and (C E F#) and then there augmented (C E G#). Those four chords I listed could begin on any of the 12 pitches (they just won’t all be unique though for augmented)
Whole tone scale was first invented by Glinka in his opera "Ruslan and Ludmile" to show evil wizard
Wow that’s really cool to know where it’s first used! I had heard that Russian composers had used the whole tone scale considerably earlier than Debussy or Scriabin.
Would you be able to comment a link to its first use for us?
@@jaybeardmusic8074 Of course
Here's Glinka's overture, at the end there's a whole-tone scale in basses: th-cam.com/video/aUYylWmAibI/w-d-xo.html
Also here's Borodin's romance with usage of a whole-tone scale, portraying wild, archaic nature: th-cam.com/video/C-LK31uKpF8/w-d-xo.html