High speed trading showdown

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2013
  • Citadel's Jamil Nazarali and former high speed trader David Lauer weigh the pros and cons of computerized stock trading for investors and society.

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  • @adamfattal468
    @adamfattal468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never knew Lil Dicky was so passionate about high frequency trading

  • @arzoosingh5388
    @arzoosingh5388 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's good for corporates and giants,but for retail trader it kills

  • @Therealltaken10
    @Therealltaken10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    They provide a good price (tight spread) because they create the price
    as they're market makers and they most likely hedge against you, so they
    never really lose.

  • @NicholasWhiteley
    @NicholasWhiteley 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting point. I'm all for free market policy and the dynamics of change however I have seen HFTs change the game in a way that frustrates the "investment" community into thinking that algos are a major nuisance.

  • @TipooSultann
    @TipooSultann 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One Man's discovery is another Man's Invention and Another Man's Machine

  • @FunkyForexDayTrading
    @FunkyForexDayTrading 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow...I trade forecast and only use ecn access which provide direct market access only

  • @jpmking9635
    @jpmking9635 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    they like to stop you out the market with a huge spread which makes it more difficult to manage trades becasue you cant use your stop loss. I wish they would set the stop losses up so when the price action hits your SL you will be taken out not at the spread price.

  • @jpmking9635
    @jpmking9635 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even on a lossing trade I could buy and exit option and if the market corrects I could still pull a profit

  • @johntitor7764
    @johntitor7764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the trading platform and software on 0:45 still BLOOMBERG maybe ? Someone can tell me which platform is that ? Is that a trading prorpietary platform made by Citadel developers maybe?

  • @fijod
    @fijod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that suspense music is unnecessary

  • @michaelgreen2007
    @michaelgreen2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance-wealth, a great career, purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time

    • @kyridaniel6985
      @kyridaniel6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @kyridaniel6985
      @kyridaniel6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @joanmaria6409
      @joanmaria6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not about watching videos and wasting your time on strategies, I was ignorant doing so..... So I decided to try expert Sophia and ever since then she has made about $14,000

    • @joanmaria6409
      @joanmaria6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I lost about $4,000 to a scammer before I was linked to expert Sophia and believe me she helped me recover the $4,000 and made an extra of $7,000 in the space of a week and 4days

    • @joanmaria6409
      @joanmaria6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She really made name for herself

  • @SimpleFinanzas
    @SimpleFinanzas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The title should be High speed watching how computers makes high speed trades

  • @affy45
    @affy45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That ginger didnt make enough money so he thought i'll snitch up

  • @Octavus5
    @Octavus5 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our capital markets are Potemkin villages. There is only the ruse of investing and allocating capital to industry. Leechers, making up more than half of all volume today, suck money from real (naive) investors and this is enabled due to corrupt regulators, oligopolistic for-profit exchanges, and the preponderant market manipulator of our age, the Fed.

  • @ajcook7777
    @ajcook7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They aren't market makers they are market takers...
    Ya they execute on small gains but over time that is money removed out of the market and into their cheque books, the longer this goes on the longer they bleed the markets dry...
    And this was 8 years ago lol just think of the $$ siphoned out by now in 2022...

  • @NobogiSomebogi
    @NobogiSomebogi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    有的时候,我们会发现一个挺有趣的现象。
    有的人会说,人人平等,理应有一样的待遇和经历。
    与此同时,又有人会抱怨说,精英怎么去做交易去了,他们这么聪明,明明可以为社会发展做更多贡献的。
    不少时候,我们会发现说这两个观点的人,是同一群人。
    却忘记了,既然人人平等,凭什么别人可以,学科中的佼佼者不可以?
    既然人生而不同,那。。。
    不过呢,在final year的前一年介绍高材生take a gap year, and work in a top organization, and if top firms treat them fairly, value their contribution, then, maybe, it will make a big difference.

  • @jspecdan
    @jspecdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is here in 2021?

  • @InvestmentKid
    @InvestmentKid 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the computers were off they're would be no market at all

    • @bramVE239
      @bramVE239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *there

    • @vinny2ful
      @vinny2ful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone who doesn't know their grammar, shouldn't talk about investments or market xD

    • @gatsbylight4766
      @gatsbylight4766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vinny2ful - Someone whom doesn't know enough about grammar to capitalize their own name maybe ought not say things such as _"someone who doesn't know their grammar, shouldn't talk about investments or market"._

  • @eddyvideostar
    @eddyvideostar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the video time of 4:42 minutes: If I attended Juilliard, or the greatest music schools in order to learn and perform Brahms or Beethoven, and earning my B. S., while Jay Z, Snoop Dog, and Puff Daddy Diddy, are flashing their cash, cars and their companions cervix, how would you want me to think when I am pondering my prospect of perpetual penuriousness?

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bigboat8329: Go directly to the money source.

  • @BillAndInna
    @BillAndInna 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Except when you turn the computers off. Then you are a systemic risk because you have now gotten rid of all the human market makers.

  • @felixg4785
    @felixg4785 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    phd in climate science is not enough to be in finance. Even if it is a phd. In the best scenario. It would be just math, physics, eng phds.

    • @leonmozambique533
      @leonmozambique533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if it’s like atmospheric physics then it’s very relevant. Climate and weather systems are notoriously complex and difficulty to model. If you can model something as complex and chaotic as the weather, you can model the markets

    • @felixg4785
      @felixg4785 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leonmozambique533 No. The level of difficulty is not the same. In Climate Science you plug numbers into models and in phd math you make the models!!

  • @ga20904
    @ga20904 ปีที่แล้ว

    what the heck are they looking at on those monitors

  • @mites7
    @mites7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like Citadel's routing, like the dude says they give fairly nice fills on securities with stupid spreads

  • @BrazitodeWawa
    @BrazitodeWawa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what? You require the best to watch over the trading program, any scientist can program and knows computers better than any other computer science major. The plus is that other knowledge they have-- their own major.

    • @gatsbylight4766
      @gatsbylight4766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *YEAH!* .... Nothing better than having your own scientist with a PhD in Biopharmaceuticals on your Wall Street hedge fund team..... You know, so he can _prescribe_ some software, or maybe put some derivatives in a centrifuge.... or sumtin.

  • @pamellatrecy3660
    @pamellatrecy3660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't recommend traders to enter after the breakout of a range because most breakouts are fake and you can lose lot of money .I personally wait patiently from a pullback to make sure that the market is going to go up or down then i apply the method of the Blended Model to win the market in an hour trade. If you got questions feel free to ask me here or search for this method online is invented by Dmitry Vladislav.

  • @douglascampion7619
    @douglascampion7619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @curtisrapp5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @nate_8403
    @nate_8403 ปีที่แล้ว

    back when CNN did journalism

  • @palasako8732
    @palasako8732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The guy seemed really whiny not gonna lie.

  • @habibatsalihu6291
    @habibatsalihu6291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @Akacja-333
    @Akacja-333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @jpmking9635
    @jpmking9635 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also wish they would have an option to exit the market, but they might think im a cry baby. I could buy the option and if the price goes against me I could take some profits while the banks commit more fraud, and if the price goes for me I could buy another option or exit completly. boo hoo hoo poor me

  • @ddstar
    @ddstar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy puts up a defense saying that everyone in there has a degree. Like somehow that relates at all to the debate. What if everyone in there was a homeless bum? Wouldn't that be worse? FEAR FEAR FEAR.. HFT... FEAR FEAR FEAR.. the public has no idea FEAR FEAR FEAR

  • @tasnimali9312
    @tasnimali9312 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can someone tell me what trading software they use on 1:31 ?

    • @rpmnews901
      @rpmnews901 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bloomberg

  • @ahojahojish
    @ahojahojish 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do these firms hire people with phd from harvard? I mean the guy said they dont do trading decisions, they only monitor the robots....why the fuck would you need to hire a genius to babysit a computer???

  • @THANOS43
    @THANOS43 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No Crying In Trading

  • @pedroramirez2
    @pedroramirez2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amc ape

  • @averageintelligence6822
    @averageintelligence6822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny now

  • @filipetomaz1097
    @filipetomaz1097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    scalpers,...

  • @xavy009
    @xavy009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dfv

  • @geooldman567
    @geooldman567 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forex

  • @keithjennifer2508
    @keithjennifer2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, if you're not well inform about bitcoin trading, instead of losing up your account you can just be buying trade signals from an expert or even allow them to manage your trade..

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      @maxwellclifford6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @maxwellclifford6534
      @maxwellclifford6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1 6 2 8 2 3 2 8 3 3 4

    • @chrisbrandon8155
      @chrisbrandon8155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice strategies can't wait to try it out. But dam holding a trade for months that right there is patience

    • @chrisbrandon8155
      @chrisbrandon8155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Growing an account require dedication and patience

    • @wesleyjackson9285
      @wesleyjackson9285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your speech is very inspiring but I have been trying to work with people but it is either I don't earn enough profit as proposed or I make loss.
      Sometimes I loss my money o almost feel like giving up.