The Genetic Melting Pot of Europe… Corded Ware Culture DNA Revealed

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  • @celtichistorydecoded
    @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Thanks for watching! Please let me know your thoughts below...

    • @paul6925
      @paul6925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I love the way you pronounce culture 💯😉

  • @urseliusurgel4365
    @urseliusurgel4365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Just to be pedantic, sorry, but I am a biochemist, lactase is an enzyme that digests lactose (milk sugar), so that the calorific yield of milk digestion is maximised. In most mammals it is only present in the young, who are being suckled. In some humans this enzyme continues to be produced in adulthood so that drinking milk (from cows, goats etc) remains very metabolically profitable, this is 'lactASE persistence', which confers 'lactOSE tolerance' - there is no 'lactase tolerance'. It is very easy to confuse the names, though one being a sugar (lactose) and the other an enzymatic protein (lactase), they are very different chemically.

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Good correction, thanks.

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good info - that always confuses me, thanks. A follow up question. Presumably, for lactose tolerance to convey an adaptive advantage, people who were lactose intolerant must have been drinking milk/lactose. What actually happens when people who are not lactose tolerant drink milk? Do they still get nutrition from milk, just less? Do they get sick, but not too badly? How does that play out? Many thanks!

    • @johnking6252
      @johnking6252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you, I learned something today. ! ✌️

    • @Chociewitka
      @Chociewitka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@willmosse3684 indeed

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnking6252 Thank you

  • @iainmc9859
    @iainmc9859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thanks for all this research. You are doing an incredible job.
    It just proves that it is early days for DNA studies and as soon as we stick a label on any 'culture' we discover there's far more admixture than our tidy minds would like to make of it.
    I'm sure I've see that Yamnaya guy sitting in the Clutha Bar down the Broomielaw of a Friday night 😁

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Iain. Yes, I agree, it's early days for many DNA studies, particularly for certain cultures with new studies revealing new perspectives and insights. Ha, the Yamnaya are never out of their

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But non of them """diverse""" as AAA games would depict them.

  • @DorchesterMom
    @DorchesterMom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you! I’m a fairly new subscriber - I really appreciate the closing summary points you did here, it wrapped the presentation up nicely and brought everything home ❤ definitely please consider keeping this feature as a regular thing going forward.

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you and welcome to the party :) I really appreciate your feedback and I will keep that in mind for future videos. I thought this video in particular needed it given all the nuanced and contradictory research.

  • @ProfoundConfusion
    @ProfoundConfusion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm enjoying your accent as much as your excellent content. (Just discovered your channel today & subscribed.)

  • @christophermclees6410
    @christophermclees6410 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this!! So glad to see someone from Scotland talk abt celtic history 🎉

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Your channel is a vault of wonderful knowledge. Everything is going to my novel.

  • @tommunyon2874
    @tommunyon2874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The spread of cultural influences are quite intriguing. My own observation on this topic is that I noted the accent of the people in the region of Memphis, Tennessee, where I spent 6 months in 1971, was similar to that of the narrator of this video, in that their voices lifted at the end of their sentences.

  • @deborahdickinsonpowellterr901
    @deborahdickinsonpowellterr901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Awesome program.

  • @billfrehe6620
    @billfrehe6620 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very professionally made videos.

  • @yuriklaver4639
    @yuriklaver4639 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail shows the picture of a wax - figure, presented in a museum called 'Het huis van Hilde' (the house of Hilde) in Castricum, The Netherlands. It represents a man found along a creek in North-Holland, three thousand years ago.

  • @davide8982
    @davide8982 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, I’m Portuguese and I’m very confused. Could the Bell Becker be the origin of both vikings, celts and celt-iberians? I really wanna know my origins, and those Bell Becker are always there, but there’s not much info about them, at least that I can find…

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just made a video on the Bell Beakers that hopefully explains elements of this at least - th-cam.com/video/rSbfqD64N20/w-d-xo.html

    • @mihaiilie8808
      @mihaiilie8808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. The steppe people got invaded by the getae thracians from Romania.
      The thracians are the ancestors of all and the proto indoeuropeans.
      Tge massagetae that killed Cyrus the Great and got into India, are thracian coulture.
      Also Plovdiv city is the oldest city in Europe. Its where all of the indoeuropean coultures start with the thracians and getae.

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard2445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting information.

  • @ezzovonachalm9815
    @ezzovonachalm9815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    YAMNA : the ethnic stock related to the type of burrial into a "yamna"
    YamNAYA : adjectival form:
    "yamna- ic"

  • @AK-rj5ss
    @AK-rj5ss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When are you updating your information on Yamnaya with the latest scientific papers on Indo European (past seven days )showing Celtic branch R1b-L51 in Afanasievo, Yamnaya, Catacomb culture connect to Ukraine lower Dnpr?

  • @frankmitchell3594
    @frankmitchell3594 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What I take from this is that the European population derived from two main groups of people, one who migrated from the Black sea area westward along the Danube and a second who migrated northward on the eastern side of the Carpathian mountains and Dniester.

    • @Chociewitka
      @Chociewitka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      3 actually - WHG/(EHG) & Neolithic & Yamnaya - later there was a partial resurgence of the WHG and Neolithic genes, the Yamnaya arriving in Europe were mostly males.

    • @mihaiilie8808
      @mihaiilie8808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Black Sea was flooded 12 000 years ago wich made the population move.
      Right then the blue eyes apear for the firat time and the I2 haplogroup, most likely linked to the flood( as a result of the flood).
      But the steppe people got,, civilised,, by the the getae( romanians) wich got over Yamnaya and deep into India and Persia, with the Massagetae.
      All the people along the way were,, civilised,, by the getae and thats how the indoeuropean languages got into India and Persia( queen Tomiris of the massagetae killed the founder of the first Persian Empire, Cyrus the Great).
      So the slavs yamnaya have also celtic heritage from the getae and even their languages are indoeuropean.

  • @willmosse3684
    @willmosse3684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Interesting video - subbed. I have seen some suggest that the R1b Yamnaya shift to R1a Corded Ware is based on the Corded Ware actually descending from a population closely related to but distinct from the Yamnaya, coming from further north into the Forest Steppe. They would also have spoken Proto-Indo_European dialects.
    Alternatively, I have seen others suggest that the reason for the R1b->R1a shift was about a class/caste shift relating to who was in power. The suggestion is that we only find elite Yamnaya DNA sources because only elites received the burial practices that have preserved their remains through to the modern era, and the Yamnaya elite were a particular clan or group of common descent that all had R1b Y-Haplogroup. But what happened with the shift to Corded Ware was that a group of lower class Yamnaya males took the top position, and co-opted the elite burial rights for their own clan. These people were R1a. So this is why we see the haplogroup change alongside the cultural shift. Something similar could have then happened again with the shift from Corded Ware to Bell Beaker.

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you, excellent comment, really interesting theories of this shift.

    • @zipperpillow
      @zipperpillow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe. Maybe not.

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zipperpillow indeed

    • @derrickbonsell
      @derrickbonsell หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Will this is looking increasingly correct. The studies on it are quite new but it seems that both the Yamnaya and Corded Ware are similar but related populations, more like sisters than a parental-child thing.

  • @eueda7612
    @eueda7612 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Corded ware sounds like Jomon ware. Any connection?

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t know anything about the “Jomon” part, but the “ware” part just means something like “stuff” or “products”. It means that this group of people used rope cords to press patterns into their pottery. So archaeologists would identify people as being from the same material culture if their pottery “wares” had cord patterns in them. So Jomon Ware must also mean something related to common pottery or other material cultures styles, but it does not indicate, by itself, any relation to Corded Ware.

  • @andrewnorrie3809
    @andrewnorrie3809 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder how I1M253 like myself where Western hunter gathers due to the lack of graves bearing that haplogroup .

  • @Datacorrupter234
    @Datacorrupter234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im personally working on perfecting my ethnic accent myslef

  • @veronicalogotheti1162
    @veronicalogotheti1162 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @AntonioTorcoli
    @AntonioTorcoli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting video. All the Yamnaya samples tested so far are R1b. Corded Ware are mainly R1a

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. You're spot on

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      R1a is the descendants of Ashkenaz, R1b is Riphath and R2 is Togarmah.

    • @nanaabi5157
      @nanaabi5157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JungleJargoncentral asia is high in R1a

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nanaabi5157 Yep

    • @johndewey6358
      @johndewey6358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JungleJargonCan we conclude all God's chosen people are R1A?! And Yamnaya?

  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:15 no, it’s not the Yamnaya it’s the Sintashta which spread to the west, which is interesting because they were a breakaway population from the corded ware.

  • @TimelessFive
    @TimelessFive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving Scottish English, make it so interesting to listen

  • @jackportugge5647
    @jackportugge5647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get one thing about this lactose tolerance gene of the Yamnaya: for sure they weren't the only people in the world milking their cattle, it must have been an almost universal practice at that time.

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lactose tolerance is not a common trait around the world at all, it's mainly European and people of European ancestry.

    • @jackportugge5647
      @jackportugge5647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@celtichistorydecoded No matter how truth that can be, it maybe not an absolute? there may be another factor, i often watch documentaries about African tribes and a lot of them drink milk for their cattle, as they are first and foremost sheperds and hunter-gatherers (like we have been thousands of years ago), and only farmers in some cases, as second option.
      Concerning Asia, the Indians are Caucasians, and i don't know about the other Asians, including Amerindians, at least these last ones never had a big tradition of owning cattle.
      Speaking for myself, i've never done any DNA test, but i'm obviously white or caucasian, as you will, and i've always loved milk, but as i reached my fourties i realised i passed better without milk. I've never never had any violent reaction but i realised there was a liitle inflamation or so. I still consume a lot of cheese though. Maybe the same way some people develop some intolerance with age, others may develop some tolerance? sorry if i'm going in "sex of the angels" sort of argumentation here...just speaking my mind.
      Anyway, thank you for replying!

    • @jackportugge5647
      @jackportugge5647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *drink milk FROM their cattle...

  • @veronicalogotheti1162
    @veronicalogotheti1162 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mitochondrial changes the and
    Of men

  • @SB-qm5wg
    @SB-qm5wg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Battle Axe culture. Yeah, I'm from there 😆

    • @johndewey6358
      @johndewey6358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depending on how long is your Axe handle!

  • @robblack5248
    @robblack5248 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't understand the narrator.

    • @kipkipper-lg9vl
      @kipkipper-lg9vl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      English people can understand Scots so you are probably American

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Handsome buggers

  • @veronicalogotheti1162
    @veronicalogotheti1162 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And they found neAnderthals there

  • @Auggies1956
    @Auggies1956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So where does this address the "Out of Africa" theory?

    • @geraldbrefka1145
      @geraldbrefka1145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This video has to do with migration after the ice age. We migrated out of Africa during the ice age. If you need a time line

  • @EricStewart-j9d
    @EricStewart-j9d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Viggo!!

  • @nanaabi5157
    @nanaabi5157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    T, Q, R, O, N - came frome the one ansestor - K and this asian thread.

  • @lYl93
    @lYl93 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Easter-n.

  • @_Painted
    @_Painted 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that the genetic profile of the Corded Ware people doesn't match with them being the ancestors of Mediterranean and Atlantic Indo-Europeans, therefore they are only the primary ancestors of specific European groups.
    I think r1b carrying proto-Italo-Celtic tribes (Bell Beaker culture) arrived directly from the black sea coast of Anatolia into Europe by a sea-based route, possibly following the Danube deep inland but potentially also settling directly along coastal areas of the mediterranean. I think that the r1b Yamnaya in the Pontic steppe were also a colony out of Anatolia, and therefore very closely related to the r1b tribes spreading into Europe but were a parallel expansion from Anatolia rather than the actual source population. I think the proto-Italo-Celtics do not have an origin in the steppe. I believe the original homeland of the primarily r1b carrying branches of Indo-Europeans was Anatolia + Armenia, not the Pontic steppe, though it is also possible that they frequently migrated between the Pontic steppe and Anatolia before beginning to settle down to sedentary lifestyles after the adoption of agriculture. However, even in the case of a nomadic origin with a diffuse homeland, I think that the main r1b settlers into Europe spread from the settled agricultural communities that arose in Anatolia/Armenia, and their cultural package including knowledge of agriculture played a significant role in their success in settling throughout Europe. I also think that human cremation practices among proto-Italo-Celtic peoples will unfortunately make tracing parts of this settlement through archaeogenetics difficult.
    I think Germanic tribes formed as a fusion under the influence of both Corded Ware descended people and tribes that split off from the Proto-Italo-Celtic branch (where parts of the Bell Beaker and Urnfield cultures overlapped with the range of the Corded Ware culture). I think some Bell Beaker samples carrying DNA similar to Corded Ware were developing into the distinct proto-Germanic people being influenced by the proto-Italo-Celtics fusing with Corded Ware peoples. I think various Baltic and Slavic peoples have significant Corded Ware ancestry. I think that the Atlantic and Mediterranean Europeans have little Corded Ware ancestry, except for what was brought by Germanic migrating tribes within the timeframe of recorded history (ie., after the fall of Rome).

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      R1b has been found in Corded Ware, including the subclade ancestral to the one dominant in the Bell Beakers, thus Corded Ware is genetically ancestral to the Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian branches
      Plus it has been essentially proven that Proto-Indo-European itself does come from the Steppe, with linguistic, archaeological and genetic evidence backing it up

  • @metanoian965
    @metanoian965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    too much kulcha

  • @angelmoreno6577
    @angelmoreno6577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Physical look Yamnaya is incredible compared with the europeans in the actuality

  • @ChristopherTanne-se3pz
    @ChristopherTanne-se3pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They later conquared big part of asia. In rhe east they mixed withe turcikmongol madames 🤤🤤🤤😀

  • @geraldbrefka1145
    @geraldbrefka1145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol I know for sure I have much more Yamnaya then the rest of you guys. My family was with their family herd till 1400 a d. Do you know that the Ukrainians have much more DNA from the Farmer culture, when the free farmers moved into Ukraine to get away from the rest of us Slavic herders.

  • @Козак-т6с
    @Козак-т6с 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why can’t you hire someone to read your texts? I mean, come on. Know your limitations.

    • @SaintFort
      @SaintFort 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can understand him perfectly.

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Watch something else

  • @123brizy
    @123brizy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cultooourrre

  • @mihaiilie8808
    @mihaiilie8808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yamnaya is not the proto indoeuropean 😂.
    You forgot the migration from the getae into India.
    The migration was from west to East and the protoindoeuropean comes from the thracians.
    Massagetae got over Yamnaya and far into India and Persia.
    Massagetae are thracian coulture from the getae,( romanians).

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The historical record shows that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations… from the sixteen grandsons of Noah. Learn ancient history before trying to learn science.
    1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) Tubal
    2. Thracians (L) Tiras
    3. Siberians (N) Meshek
    4. East Asians (O) Magog
    5. Medes (PQ) Madai
    6.. Western Europeans (R) Gomer
    7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T) Javan
    8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ) Arphaxad
    9. Elamites (H) Elam
    10. Assyrians (G) Asshur
    11. Arameans (F1) Aram
    12. Lydians (F2) Lud
    13. Cushites (AB, C) Cush
    14. Egyptians (E3) Mitzrayim
    15. Canaanites (E2, D) Canaan
    16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1) Phut
    The D haplogroup descendants of Canaan migrated east through Tibet all the way to Japan. The C haplogroup descendants of Nimrod migrated to South Asia, the Pacific, Mongolia and all the way to the Americas along with Q haplogroup descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes.
    The A maternal mtDNA haplogroup belonging to the N lineage accompanied the Q paternal haplogroup in the Americas. The C&D maternal haplogroups belong to the M lineage. The B maternal haplogroup seems to have crossed the Pacific Ocean.
    The Mediterranean paternal R1b and the maternal X2a also found in Galilee represent an Atlantic crossing of the Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the Mediterranean paternal haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B in addition to the R1b in Native American Populations. J1 and J2 is Arabs and Jews. (I1 is Dan, I2 is Asher)
    Of course there is the Cohen modal haplotype of J1 P58 which identifies the IJ lineage of Hebrews and Arabs that are descended from Arphaxad. J2 M172 is the descendants of the House of David and Solomon.

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about J1 and J2 actually being Ishmael and Esau -
      and I2 being Dan and Asher, I1 being the rest of Israelites?

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@verenatuna9010 I1 is relatively small. I2 is where the tribe of Asher is known to have been. J2 is Judaic and J1 is the other tribes of Israel and possibly J2 as well.

    • @nanaabi5157
      @nanaabi5157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Peoples whose haplogroup d are know by their honesty and simplicity. they couldn't be Canaans. D haplonrup is exclusively found among the Tibetan and Japanese people.

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nanaabi5157 The Sinites are a Canaanite tribe. The land of Sinim is China where the D hg is found. It is the plural of Sin. The land is Sin is also Sinai. It is definitely Hamitic. They did not travel as far as the C hg descendants of Nimrod did who is the son of Cush.

    • @nanaabi5157
      @nanaabi5157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      K haplogroup also high among uyghur and uzbeks and it is originated in Central Asia. It just coudnt be italian. From haplogroup K appeared such haplogroups as T, Q, R, O, N

  • @stanleyshannon4408
    @stanleyshannon4408 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Applying modern political and social concepts to the study of past populations invalidates any other point you are trying to make. There was no melting pot.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rubbish

    • @stanleyshannon4408
      @stanleyshannon4408 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ChrisShortyAllen There is no historic parallel for what is occurring with modern populations. In the past, population admixture was the result of selecting to improve individual survival in a dangerous and hostile world, resulting in a more distinct and unique population better adapted to its environment. Today it is the artificial engineering of populations to achieve the political ends of empowered elites. There is no adaptive improvement by selection.

    • @stanleyshannon4408
      @stanleyshannon4408 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ChrisShortyAllen There is no historic parallel for modern population dynamics.

  • @Whitdauthaz
    @Whitdauthaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I loved the presentation, per usual! Further along in my own haplogroup research I'm starting to think I'm from Cumbria (what a shame I can't learn Cumbric), trying my damnedest to trace the steps in a multidisciplinary way without getting too far ahead of myself.😅 Anyways, you've always got a R-BY13124 watching your videos! It'd be cool to see what other HGs are lurking in the shadows. I'd be willing to bet there's some cousins mucking about! 💪🏼🌞🫴🏼🛞

    • @celtichistorydecoded
      @celtichistorydecoded  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you. It's great you're digging into that, and Cumbria is a beautiful place to be from. I'm starting to trace my ancestry more as well, and I'm planning on making a whole series on that coming up and I would appreciate any tips on the best ways to go about it moving forward.

    • @Whitdauthaz
      @Whitdauthaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@celtichistorydecoded That sounds great and we're looking forward to it. I am in the same boat with all other amateurs, so unfortunately I have no real advice on how to go about these things. I follow the archeogenetics studies, I consider any genealogy I can get my hands on, I have a Big Y-700 and autosomal test through FamilytreeDNA which I upload to anywhere freely accepting of it. I make use of linguistics, etymology, and surnames in a schizophrenic manner. Aside from concrete genealogy and genetic testing, it's all just tossing stones in the dark 🤷🏼 I'm relying on intuition/instinct through most of this because although I have genealogy mapped out extensively, my paternal line is a gray area. My paternal grandfather's surname was Morey/Morrey, which I haven't come across in genetic testing in the 3 years that I've been after this. My closest surnames matches paired with haplogroup subclades I'm downstream from are: (newest to oldest surnames/subclades) Whitehead>Keeton/Keating>McKenzie>Matheson
      There are others I match close with as well though we don't share the same subclade branches 🤯
      Scaledinnovation.com has been an invaluable tool as well.
      I wish I had something of substance to add but I am just a normal guy working with what I've got!
      Best of luck 🤞🏼 In my opinion, there are not enough folk interested in such things, I'd like to see more participation from those like myself.

    • @Bcfcuklhpwalker
      @Bcfcuklhpwalker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@celtichistorydecoded please watch auldboy about briganties who were brothonic like Picts like cumbric Welsh these guys all over EU original Celts an links to pythains north Macedonians Armenias aka sythains Cimmerians an ones who must brought lactose into EU first farmers an minted first coins miners