Thanks for this video Ramon I finally customized my 300 psi transducer was able to see you do the conversion on my ipad while my pico was on my laptop. had to do some thinking about .5 volts is 0 psi 4.5 volts is 300 psi then how much pressure is 0 volts I came up with -37.5 psi today I did a in cylinder running test first with my wps500 and measured the top of the towers and bottom of expansion pocket and then used the custom probe in the cylinder and the pressured were identical. then went to ebay and ordered 2 more 0-300 psi transducers and 2 5 volt regulators I plan to do a cranking comp test on all 4 cylinders at the same time. thanks again Ramon cheers
I am just now seeing this about shop made transducers. Can you please make a video on how you make the transducers and links to the parts to do it? And the power supply. Thank you much. Tom
Nice video. A little tip....... An Attenuator may enable you to use your scope to look at ignition coil & injector wave forms. I have 4 Hantek HT201 Attenuator's that I use with my scope. The Hantek Attenuator is 20:1, so you can look at 20 times more voltage than you can without it. May make that little Pico a lot more useful. They are really cheap on Ebay too. Enjoy.
My scope is the Hantek DSO-3064. I have had it for at least 5 years & I use it all the time. It's a good scope, not as nice as the Pico automotive scope, but a good scope for what it is. The software allows you to save custom configurations, it also has some automotive specific presets. When all else fails there is an "auto" button that sometimes will display a signal when I cant figure it out on my own. What most people don't realize is that all scopes basically do the same thing. They measure voltage over time. You don't need an "automotive scope" to use it on a car. You just need a scope that meets a certain criteria. Sample rate, voltage range, AC coupling & memory depth are all concerns. The cheaper scopes all sacrifice one or more of these specifications. Also, the cheaper scopes tend to become worthless if you try to utilize all the channels at once. Memory is very important, don't ignore that. Scope manufactures like to throw a lot of big numbers at you. Be sure you know what your looking at & you are comparing apples to apples. Attenuator's allow you to examine items that may produce voltage outside of your scopes specifications. I always use an attenuator when looking at an ignition coil or injector. Without the attenuator you may burn out that channel on your scope. Nothing will discourage you faster than killing your new scope. Environment is also a concern. Where are you going to be using your scope? Is security a concern? My scope is on a dedicated cart in my shop. It has a portable power supply, it's own PC & a 22 inch monitor. All my cables, connectors & adapters are on that cart, ready to go when I need them. This is very convenient for me which makes it easy to use , so I use it all the time. If I had to set the scope up & break it down every time I use it, I probable would use my Vantage Pro a lot more than I do. There are plenty of low cost options out there. You don't need to spend $2500.00 on a PicoScope to do automotive work. Someone just starting out, I would probably recommend a Vantage Pro. A completely self contained unit that has a lot of guided help. Build from there. Buy a cheap DSO (do your research, don't buy junk). Adapters (BNC to banana & banana to BNC) will allow you to share probes & cables between the Vantage & the DSO. Look for used scopes. Plenty of people buy scopes & then lose interest in them because of the learning curve. You don't need 4 channel scope to start with. A better 2 channel is the place to start. Cheap is usually bad. Avoid the "pocket scope". A shop should buy a Pico. A technician shouldn't spend that much money unless diagnostic is all he does. My Hantek kit was less than $500.00 & it came with a nice selection of cables, probes, accessories and high & low current clamps. I believe it was a "new - open box". I got a deal on it & have never regretted the purchase. It also was a big step up from the Vantage Pro. The best advice I can give is to buy something & use it as often as possible. A scope is complex & takes time to learn. The more you use it, the easier it becomes.
For most of my testing I am using VERUS but for pressure transducers I like PIco scope because I can customize my transducers for pressure or vacuum I am measuring. Thank you for watching my channel. Cheers.
Hi friend! That was a GREAT vid my friend! I may just have to buy that pico #2204A But I just bought a new DVOM so it may need to weight! You are becoming my all time best you tube spot Keep em coming Best of luck friend.
Joseph Tucci thank you for such a nice comment. This pico so far is working great. Please note if you decide to buy this unit you will have to buy test leads separate. Hantek has decent test leads. Thank you.
Another excellent video! Thank you! You are inspiring a lot of us. Your videos show that the average DIY can accomplish much with minimal $$ investment Dan
Nice video. Can you make a video how to setup the transducer with a fuel kit. How you go about connecting those fitting and adapters to test fuel and vacuum. I can but a fuel kit from Harbor Freight.
KY HomeGarage Everytime you buy a new toy buy her something too loooool. I don't know, jewelery or whatever women are into these days. Your gonna go bankrupt Ramon😂
oshin aslanian or maybe she could spent some quality time at KY HomeGarage playing with my toys. I am sure she would like it I am just afraid to ask. LOL.
Thanks for this useful demonstration. I now intend to buy this 2204A I just wonder do you or anyone know if there is any advantage in buying the automotive scope or is it just basically the same device, and secondly, would it then just be possible to run the automotive software with the 2204A to take advantage of maybe some presets etc, in the software? Thanks
Excellent Video. I'm playing with those same transducers, and using my HVAC gauges, nitrogen and vacuum pump to test calibration. They are surprisingly responsive & accurate. Have you experimented with TPI 620A (a clone of Fluke PV350 for 1/2 the price)?
just a quick tip if your cursor drop down box, highlight the 1st value type in 0, and that will set your first cursor exactly at the 0 line, it can be kinda frustrating trying to do that with a touch screen
Hi!!! I have a Verus and would like your opinion on getting a pressure transducer for it. Must it be from Snap-On? And can I get 1 transducer to measure all types of pressures? Thanks!!!
Hi for most testing 300 psi pressure transducer will work fine ( fuel pressure , in cylinder pressure testing ). Now hard question aftermarket or snap on transducers. In your case aftermarket will give you voltage scale and is very difficult to do conversion to pressure. That is why I use picoscope to customize my probes to pressure reading. In your case snap on transducer could be better option but lot more expensive. Hope this help.
Hey Ramon do you know if the pico 4425 automotive scopes are able to customize homemade probes ? I made a 0-300 psi transducer with .5 volts being 0 psi and 4.5 volts being 300 psi. Thanks
www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-HT201-20-1-Passive-Attenuator-300V-New/152517787491?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-HT30A-Heavy-Duty-Auto-Test-Lead-3M-BNC-to-Banana-Adapter-Cable-/271914329912?epid=1661594797&hash=item3f4f5b6738:g:yhMAAOSwPK1ZXhXC this will work with your scope. Cheers
Thanks for taking the time to make this video and explain through the whole process. God Bless
Thank you my friend. I hope this was useful.👍
Very nice demonstration of how to customize the probes in PicoScope. Keep up the good work!
stuzman thank you
Thanks for this video Ramon I finally customized my 300 psi transducer was able to see you do the conversion on my ipad while my pico was on my laptop. had to do some thinking about .5 volts is 0 psi 4.5 volts is 300 psi then how much pressure is 0 volts I came up with -37.5 psi today I did a in cylinder running test first with my wps500 and measured the top of the towers and bottom of expansion pocket and then used the custom probe in the cylinder and the pressured were identical. then went to ebay and ordered 2 more 0-300 psi transducers and 2 5 volt regulators I plan to do a cranking comp test on all 4 cylinders at the same time. thanks again Ramon cheers
Mark Ferraro awesome my friend. I am glad you could use my method to customize your pressure transducers. Cheers
Awesome Ramon. It will be great to see you work with cars with pressure/vacuum problems. Regards, Steve from New Zealand.
Thanks Ramon just what I needed. I made a 0-300 transducer for in cylinder pressure testing plan on getting a 0-100 for fuel. Take care
Mark Ferraro Hi my friend that is great. I will make another video soon with 300 psi transducer. Cheers
For in-cylinder pressure, is the 500 transducer ok too? Whats the difference? I'm trying to buy a box that has a transducer and vacuum input.
I am just now seeing this about shop made transducers. Can you please make a video on how you make the transducers and links to the parts to do it? And the power supply. Thank you much. Tom
Thanks for your hard work on bringing other technicians further in their knowledge about scopes.
G Galos thank you my friend I am glad I could help. Cheers
Many thanks from Belgium. Very usefull. I own you a Belgium beer.
Thank you my friend. I am glad this video was useful.
Nice video. A little tip....... An Attenuator may enable you to use your scope to look at ignition coil & injector wave forms. I have 4 Hantek HT201 Attenuator's that I use with my scope. The Hantek Attenuator is 20:1, so you can look at 20 times more voltage than you can without it. May make that little Pico a lot more useful. They are really cheap on Ebay too. Enjoy.
thanks for tip. How do yo like Hantek scope. Do you have option to customize your probes?
My scope is the Hantek DSO-3064. I have had it for at least 5 years & I use it all the time. It's a good scope, not as nice as the Pico automotive scope, but a good scope for what it is. The software allows you to save custom configurations, it also has some automotive specific presets. When all else fails there is an "auto" button that sometimes will display a signal when I cant figure it out on my own.
What most people don't realize is that all scopes basically do the same thing. They measure voltage over time. You don't need an "automotive scope" to use it on a car. You just need a scope that meets a certain criteria. Sample rate, voltage range, AC coupling & memory depth are all concerns. The cheaper scopes all sacrifice one or more of these specifications. Also, the cheaper scopes tend to become worthless if you try to utilize all the channels at once. Memory is very important, don't ignore that. Scope manufactures like to throw a lot of big numbers at you. Be sure you know what your looking at & you are comparing apples to apples.
Attenuator's allow you to examine items that may produce voltage outside of your scopes specifications. I always use an attenuator when looking at an ignition coil or injector. Without the attenuator you may burn out that channel on your scope. Nothing will discourage you faster than killing your new scope.
Environment is also a concern. Where are you going to be using your scope? Is security a concern? My scope is on a dedicated cart in my shop. It has a portable power supply, it's own PC & a 22 inch monitor. All my cables, connectors & adapters are on that cart, ready to go when I need them. This is very convenient for me which makes it easy to use , so I use it all the time. If I had to set the scope up & break it down every time I use it, I probable would use my Vantage Pro a lot more than I do.
There are plenty of low cost options out there. You don't need to spend $2500.00 on a PicoScope to do automotive work. Someone just starting out, I would probably recommend a Vantage Pro. A completely self contained unit that has a lot of guided help. Build from there. Buy a cheap DSO (do your research, don't buy junk). Adapters (BNC to banana & banana to BNC) will allow you to share probes & cables between the Vantage & the DSO. Look for used scopes. Plenty of people buy scopes & then lose interest in them because of the learning curve.
You don't need 4 channel scope to start with. A better 2 channel is the place to start. Cheap is usually bad. Avoid the "pocket scope". A shop should buy a Pico. A technician shouldn't spend that much money unless diagnostic is all he does. My Hantek kit was less than $500.00 & it came with a nice selection of cables, probes, accessories and high & low current clamps. I believe it was a "new - open box". I got a deal on it & have never regretted the purchase. It also was a big step up from the Vantage Pro.
The best advice I can give is to buy something & use it as often as possible. A scope is complex & takes time to learn. The more you use it, the easier it becomes.
For most of my testing I am using VERUS but for pressure transducers I like PIco scope because I can customize my transducers for pressure or vacuum I am measuring. Thank you for watching my channel. Cheers.
Hi friend! That was a GREAT vid my friend! I may just have to buy that pico #2204A But I just bought a new DVOM so it may need to weight! You are becoming my all time best you tube spot Keep em coming Best of luck friend.
Joseph Tucci thank you for such a nice comment. This pico so far is working great. Please note if you decide to buy this unit you will have to buy test leads separate. Hantek has decent test leads. Thank you.
Another excellent video! Thank you!
You are inspiring a lot of us.
Your videos show that the average DIY can accomplish much with minimal $$ investment
Dan
D K Dan thank you so much for a such nice comment . I will continue to bring more videos. Thank you for watching and supporting my channel. Cheers
thanks Ramon my go to video for custom probing pulled trigger on pico 8 channel lcustom probes for AC diag be good Ramon
Nice video. Can you make a video how to setup the transducer with a fuel kit. How you go about connecting those fitting and adapters to test fuel and vacuum. I can but a fuel kit from Harbor Freight.
Ramon and his toys, lol. Well you certainly have passion that's for sure.
oshin aslanian I wish my wife share the same view. Sometimes is hard to explain why another toy. 😀😀😀
KY HomeGarage Everytime you buy a new toy buy her something too loooool. I don't know, jewelery or whatever women are into these days. Your gonna go bankrupt Ramon😂
oshin aslanian or maybe she could spent some quality time at KY HomeGarage playing with my toys. I am sure she would like it I am just afraid to ask. LOL.
Thanks for this useful demonstration. I now intend to buy this 2204A I just wonder do you or anyone know if there is any advantage in buying the automotive scope or is it just basically the same device, and secondly, would it then just be possible to run the automotive software with the 2204A to take advantage of maybe some presets etc, in the software? Thanks
Thank you so much for this fantastic information.....I needed that....
Murle Campbell thank you my friend. I am glad this was useful to you. Cheers
Excellent Video. I'm playing with those same transducers, and using my HVAC gauges, nitrogen and vacuum pump to test calibration. They are surprisingly responsive & accurate. Have you experimented with TPI 620A (a clone of Fluke PV350 for 1/2 the price)?
I did not. Now I own PICO pressure transducer and I love it. Comes with price but it’s well worth it.👍😊
just a quick tip if your cursor drop down box, highlight the 1st value type in 0, and that will set your first cursor exactly at the 0 line, it can be kinda frustrating trying to do that with a touch screen
rmk825 thank you for great tip will try it for sure. Thank you for watching
Hi!!! I have a Verus and would like your opinion on getting a pressure transducer for it. Must it be from Snap-On? And can I get 1 transducer to measure all types of pressures?
Thanks!!!
Hi for most testing 300 psi pressure transducer will work fine ( fuel pressure , in cylinder pressure testing ). Now hard question aftermarket or snap on transducers. In your case aftermarket will give you voltage scale and is very difficult to do conversion to pressure. That is why I use picoscope to customize my probes to pressure reading. In your case snap on transducer could be better option but lot more expensive. Hope this help.
Nice demonstration
Richard Gill thank you sir.
Hey Ramon do you know if the pico 4425 automotive scopes are able to customize homemade probes ? I made a 0-300 psi transducer with .5 volts being 0 psi and 4.5 volts being 300 psi. Thanks
Hi Mark email me ruzic@bellsouth.net I will talk to you 👍
Mark Ferraro yes it will procedure is the same. Thank you
The maximum measurement voltage is 20 . The unit has over voltage protection to 100
Same scope I got. Paid $139. Does everything automotive $2000 scope does minus the waveform library.
Astro Camper awesome I am glad somebody else is using this unit. I am very satisfied with price and performance. Thank you for sharing. Cheers
If i use a attenuator with that model, can I do injector waveforms?
Richard Gill yes sir you can using attenuator will work to get injector waveform with this scope .
ramon ruzic how much for the leads and whatever else i need
www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-HT201-20-1-Passive-Attenuator-300V-New/152517787491?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-HT30A-Heavy-Duty-Auto-Test-Lead-3M-BNC-to-Banana-Adapter-Cable-/271914329912?epid=1661594797&hash=item3f4f5b6738:g:yhMAAOSwPK1ZXhXC
this will work with your scope. Cheers
The normal range of that scope is 20v max . If you read the manual the scope has protection up 100v