Thank you for adding details of your different paces - it is really helpful for understanding what are exactly talking about Really nice upgrade for your already good reviews
Just got these in the mail today from a buddy that works at Puma! I needed a new tempo/ other daily to complement the Mach 5 and Endorphin Speed 3 and of course my vaporfly 3’s
Weight and increased drop suggest there are better options not least a deviate Nitro elite 2 as a training option or the DN2 AND £45 extra for DNE3 is a narrow gap….
I’ve loved the puma range over the years but their sizing really frustrates me. I’m a uk size 8 but depending on the model the variation in fit is so different for me. I appreciate there will be differences depending on the intended use, but for the most part I’d expect an element of consistency.
@Nick Another great and honest review. Good to know about the discomfort. How is this discomfort compared with the Nitro Elite 3? Do you find the Elite 3 version also uncomfortable? Cheers!
It goes on sale in 20 minutes here. I thought I'd buy it. I still might because Puma No Amer have an excellent/easy return policy. Deviate Nitro 2 had been my favorite (past time to replace). I thought Nick liked them, so not liking this as much makes me leery. I think I'll try the Mizuno Neo Vista first or try to find DN 2s on sale since I've really liked those.
Hello, great video. I had a question: I'm looking for a pair of running shoes for training (VMA, THRESHOLD) and paces below 4:00 and capable of running 200m. I was looking for the BOSTON 12, and I had TEMPO before, I was wondering which pair of running shoes would be perfect for my use knowing that I have a pair for competition and jogging. thank you very much for everything 😊
At least visually, the stack stats seem wrong to me. If anything the 3 looks to have higher stack in the forefoot than the 2, not less as stated here (29 to 30). Also it would make no sense for them to be heavier than the DN2 if they didn't have more foam everywhere (not a bit more on the heel and a bit less on the forefoot), given they also have less outsole coverage than the DN2 as well.
I love the look of the Puma Deviate Nitro shoe and the feel of the mid sole. I just find it such a narrow show... I can't really size up because then the shoe is just to long.
Is this shoe still heavy due to its insole and outsole? how about the heel collar and the padding, is still rigid? I felt this shoe is for strides not for cadence.
My personal preference, I'd wish all brands of shoes just stop putting power tape, logo's, reinforcements on the little toe-midfoot area. As soon as I see that on a shoe, I'm just like...NO.
I wouldn't race further than 10k in the Boston, I don't find them that comfortable and it always feels like too much shoe. Not sure about the DN3 as there are mixed reviews, Ed Bud loves them.
One person's idea of a good fit is not necessarily the same as someone else's. Foot width, how the toe box tapers, foot volume, lots of different factors can affect how a shoe fits. I've had shoes that have a full thumb width space at the end and they still feel small because of the way the toe box tapers. Some people like a full thumb width at the end, some think less than that is fine. Reviews are just opinions. Whenever I order shoes online now, I order 2 sizes every time so I can compare.
Altra did it to me and it looks like Puma have done the same. Going half size up is not possible when you are wear a US14, and as for heel slip, yeah / Nah.
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DN2 is my favourite daily of all time. Really hope they haven’t tried to reinvent the wheel and just made some upgrades.
same. very sad to see the high drop. I really prefer something in the 6-8mm range for drop.
Is it a good shoe for my first marathon?
Thank you for adding details of your different paces - it is really helpful for understanding what are exactly talking about
Really nice upgrade for your already good reviews
Finally, I have been waiting for this moment for a year! Thank you guys for the first throughts
For years?
Just got them this morning. Nice a snug for my narrow foot. Will give them a go tomorrow.
Just got these in the mail today from a buddy that works at Puma! I needed a new tempo/ other daily to complement the Mach 5 and Endorphin Speed 3 and of course my vaporfly 3’s
Since the rebellion V4 actually fits me well , and you two are having some issues with this new Puma model, I won't go near 😄.. my bunion thanks you.
This is a shame to hear, I love my DN2s. At least I can get a pair of DN2s for a bargain and hope the 4s are better when they arrive.
Weight and increased drop suggest there are better options not least a deviate Nitro elite 2 as a training option or the DN2 AND £45 extra for DNE3 is a narrow gap….
Puma seems to have narrowed their shoes both in the velocity 3 and now this.
Shame they’ve changed it to a 10mm drop. Too much for me, so definitely won’t be buying them. Plenty of life left in my DN2 though.
Agree... makes me think I should pick up another DN2 pretty soon though, for the future!
Will buy the version 2 just cause of the drop. 10mm is too much. Deviate 2 is actually 6mm
Yeah. I normally prefer 4-6mm. On the rarer occasion shoes with 8mm work for me but 10 is to much for me.
Previous versions I've found in the midfoot way too tight for my foot.
I’ve loved the puma range over the years but their sizing really frustrates me. I’m a uk size 8 but depending on the model the variation in fit is so different for me. I appreciate there will be differences depending on the intended use, but for the most part I’d expect an element of consistency.
@Nick Another great and honest review. Good to know about the discomfort. How is this discomfort compared with the Nitro Elite 3? Do you find the Elite 3 version also uncomfortable? Cheers!
It goes on sale in 20 minutes here. I thought I'd buy it. I still might because Puma No Amer have an excellent/easy return policy. Deviate Nitro 2 had been my favorite (past time to replace). I thought Nick liked them, so not liking this as much makes me leery. I think I'll try the Mizuno Neo Vista first or try to find DN 2s on sale since I've really liked those.
Hello, great video. I had a question: I'm looking for a pair of running shoes for training (VMA, THRESHOLD) and paces below 4:00 and capable of running 200m. I was looking for the BOSTON 12, and I had TEMPO before, I was wondering which pair of running shoes would be perfect for my use knowing that I have a pair for competition and jogging. thank you very much for everything 😊
At least visually, the stack stats seem wrong to me. If anything the 3 looks to have higher stack in the forefoot than the 2, not less as stated here (29 to 30). Also it would make no sense for them to be heavier than the DN2 if they didn't have more foam everywhere (not a bit more on the heel and a bit less on the forefoot), given they also have less outsole coverage than the DN2 as well.
I love the look of the Puma Deviate Nitro shoe and the feel of the mid sole. I just find it such a narrow show... I can't really size up because then the shoe is just to long.
Deviate Nitro 3 wide version will launch July.
Is this shoe still heavy due to its insole and outsole? how about the heel collar and the padding, is still rigid? I felt this shoe is for strides not for cadence.
My personal preference, I'd wish all brands of shoes just stop putting power tape, logo's, reinforcements on the little toe-midfoot area. As soon as I see that on a shoe, I'm just like...NO.
Great price
Not seeing/reading good things about the dn3 thus far. Such a shame, the dn2 is the 🐐
Looks great ‼️ what do you think between adidas Boston 12 and deviate nitro 3.. Simular price.. For half marathon 🏃 ❓
Boston 12 for sure.
@@grantmckay7014 that's
As a shoe for EVERYTHING, the DN3 is better. For competition days or specific series, Boston 12 is better.
@@jlj1117 thanks 👍🏻
I wouldn't race further than 10k in the Boston, I don't find them that comfortable and it always feels like too much shoe. Not sure about the DN3 as there are mixed reviews, Ed Bud loves them.
Sounds like this is really only going to work for narrow feet.
That’s the impression I get too, which is a shame as I’m not narrow footed.
Hopefully the v2’s go really cheap now so I can buy another pair of them
PUMA " Narrow feet only"
Wide version Launching in July.
I hated the trail like outsole on the DN2, so I’m happy it’s been reduced big time on the new version.
Ironically that was its best feature for me. Great wet weather trainer.
The best sole on the market is Pumagrip along with Continental.
@@grantmckay7014 yep, also light 'trails', so perfect for here in Salzburg.
Bought a pair of Deviate Nitro 2's and they are comfy, as a walking shoe but nothing special to run in, will give these a miss.
Going to wait for the liberate nitro 3 if it's worse than the previous version then am done with puma for a while.
how can one reviewer say half to a full size up and fine for the other 2?
One person's idea of a good fit is not necessarily the same as someone else's. Foot width, how the toe box tapers, foot volume, lots of different factors can affect how a shoe fits. I've had shoes that have a full thumb width space at the end and they still feel small because of the way the toe box tapers. Some people like a full thumb width at the end, some think less than that is fine. Reviews are just opinions. Whenever I order shoes online now, I order 2 sizes every time so I can compare.
Altra did it to me and it looks like Puma have done the same.
Going half size up is not possible when you are wear a US14, and as for heel slip, yeah / Nah.
Interesting to see that Mike only weighs 667g!
Shit. They went with 10mm drop. Unfortunately not for me
The prices of running shoes is such bullshit money grab these days. They shouldn't be more than $80!
I could not buy this shoe with that absurd NITRO logo. Awful.