Mooer 005 Brown Sound micro preamp | Comparing the Brown Sound micro preamp to an Axe Fx 3 5150
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- Mooer 005 Brown Sound micro preamp | Comparing the Brown Sound micro preamp to an Axe Fx 3 5150
Hey guys,
I received a comment, suggesting the comparison of the Mooer 005 micro preamp to the 5150 block letter amp in the Axe Fx III. I thought this would be a fun video, so I bit.. and here it is!
What do you think? Are they close?
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I quite like the Mooer preamp, the stock loaded IR is decently flexible for mixing and live situations, but mix that with any custom IR load platform (hx stomp, cab zeus, mooer radar) and you’ve got a whole new world of options for a relatively low price 👌🏼
Yeah, it sounds really good on it's own. I have a few of these micro preamps, and they all are great!
Mooer 005 is the best one in Mooer micro preamp, because they did some buildin EQ Match (Tone Capture) in that pedal.
Good comparison! But if they use the same custom IR, the tone would be really close. I had compared my Mooer 005 and FX2. 😄
Listening through my trusted AKG K270 Studio headphones, i think i might prefer the Mooer, at least in the mix, the Axe had more defenition, but the Mooer was more gritty and nasty in a good way which made me get the feel of a real amp to a higher degree.
🙌 thanks for watching. Yeah theres definitely so.wthing cool going on with the mooer.
I completely agree. I've got an FM3, and it must be dialed-in for a mix. The Mooer had balls. I could play an entire gig with it.
No one ever compared the Mooer 005 vs the tc electronic V550 Preamp and the MXR EVH 5150 Overdrive all only connected to a preamp like the Seymour Duncan. I would love to see this
We're pretty well past the turning point on this now, but most people don't realize that when Ed was talking about the 'brown sound', he wasn't speaking about his guitar tone. He was actually referencing Alex's snare .
"“I was never talking about my guitar tone,” he says. “I was talking about Alex’s snare drum. I’ve always thought Alex’s snare drum sounds like he’s beating on a log.”
When Klosterman presses him that this is a “weird way” to describe sound, Ed simply replies, “It’s an organic sound. Brown is an organic color.”
Source: www.guitarplayer.com/players/eddie-van-halen-the-brown-sound-wasnt-my-toneit-was-alexs
Thanks for the info, that's really interesting.
Ed's a known liar. Yes he was talking about his guitar tone....I remember reading the article 4000 years ago. He's said at (least once) that he tries to get his amp to sound like Alex's snare drum. And that first time he used the term "Brown Sound" he was just trying to describe a good solid workable rock n roll sound. Which for him was a Duncan modified PAF, into a MXR 6 Band EQ, into a (mostly) stock (late 60's) Marshall head with variac'd voltage at around 92%. This was his basic tone.....sure there was other gear....phase 90, MXR flanger, Echoplex, Boss EQ, and others. Everyone overlooks the variac in this equation and wonders what's missing when their stuff sounds thin and wimpy. Ed was the man!
Was a little torn the mooer sounded more open but it had a weird hiss, the Axe sounded darker but more clean. Could have been fun to hear them boosted too. Keep up the good work man!
I know, I should have done that! 😑😑😑 next time!!
Listening through cellphone speakers, I actually preferred the mooer in a mix 😳😳😂
How dare you, go get some headphones! 😂
Thanks for watching! 🙌
AxeFx is harsh, I hate say this but the Mooer 005 sounds better ... this is telling a lot where quality of sounds stand in 2020 and how far technology has gotten. Fun fact, Craddle of Filth actually uses the Mooer 005 with a Mooer Radar has their live gear!!! If it's good enough for the symphonic speed, gothic metal Gods ... I think its good enough for us mortals. :)
This was great to wake up to. Thank you sir
I think it's interesting how many comments prefer the Mooer, which you can pick up on Reverb for like $70-90.
Even though you're stuck with only 2 channels and eq, and pedal in/pedal out, this should reassure a beginner or bedroom player like me that you don't need to spend a lot to get a good sound, if that's the sound you're looking for.
That was awesome man. 😁
🙌 I'm hoping to start regularly posting on Fridays now. I'm still trying to figure out the scheduling.
Yeah, you really can get a lot done for $100. And let's be real, most of us find one patch we like on our modelers, and that's our go to anyways! 😂 9/10 when I'm playing I'm only using an amp and cab.
Just a little something extra with the axe fx. If you only want that one tone, the Mooer will definitely get the job done
Definitely. Plus you can get lost in settings on the axefx for days lol
Ya was gonna say like the other guy said, the 005 is an EVH 50w. Is there a Fractal EVH model to compare against? The block letter is was more low mid oriented than the EVH. I use the 005 in the loop of my gsp1101 and love it. I had the 50w head and it nails it. Still, great comparison sir.
Thanks!Yes there is, and I totally will.
It would be cool if you compared the two preamps with the same IR.
Btw the Mooer sounded better to me.
I'm probably going to be doing this less.... maybe I'll throw it in the mix with my comparisons, but after doing it so many times I've just realized using the same IR pretty much makes the modelers sound more or less the same!
@@TaylorDanley Maybe that's the point! I think it's important to hear it both with stock IRs and with same IR. I have the Mooer Phoenix preamp pedal and the distortion is awesome, but the IR is shit (at least for recording), I always have to put an external IR in the chain.
@@michaelrock You're not wrong! I should probably just start doing BOTH from now on.
@@TaylorDanley awesome! lml
The Mooer preamp pedals do sound remarkable, especially for the price! Saw a video with the guys from Cradle Of Filth that say they basically went this Mooer pedal over a Kemper because it’s much simpler and easier to lug around
There’s a big difference which I suspect is mostly due to the speaker sim. However the top end of the Fractal is much clearer and even. I like the fatness of the Mooer which is a bit more typical of the actual amp. My interest in the demo is to see if the Mooer can cop the Soldano lead tone from the late ‘80s. I’m also considering an AMT. I saw in another video that you’re using an Ampero? The Soldano model on that one is pretty good. I mention Soldano since it was the grandfather of the EVH.
The Axe FX sounded a little bit scooped I comparison with the Mooer, I liked more the Mooer preamp, but the Axe FX is designed to be a complete rig and studio tool, while the Mooer is just a preamp :)
Who that mooer is pretty sick :0
Really unfair comparison, but the mooer stands up really well, and can be tweaked in the mix just as easily imo. It's all digital at the end of the day. My money's still with the Mooer pedals for now
Cheap , straightforward , sounds great , Mooer please :)
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The flexibility of Axe FX 3 I/o would easily let you run guitar into Axe FX 3 for pre-amplifier fx, then out the send to the Mooer, then out the Mooer, back into return of Axe FX 3 for cab and loop fx if you really preferred the Micro preamp sound to Axe FX 3
I think the little Mooer micro preamps are great for budget recording and still getting decent sound.
Still hoping for Axe FX 3 in a couple months. Also, the little Mooer Live preamp has 12 of the micro preamps built in plus can amp match fairly well on a profile capture. Mooer makes some decent products
Actually, I think the preamp live can hold 12 at a time, but something like 50 preamps available
@devilslide01 - oh, that’s right. Demos sound good on it
Haha you definitely could! I think they are pretty awesome for the value as well. I keep one in my rack just in case I need an on the fly rig.
Very decent for a little budget pedal. I actually liked how you made it sound, it has a Black Metal quality to it, some nastiness.
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Cradle of filth actually use mooer preamp and the mooer cab sim for their love stuff (have done since 2018).
Personally I prefer the mooer preamp sound over the axe fx.
Great comparision!
I think that the sound of the AXE fx sounds more modern, tight or hifi than the mooer 005.
leaving that aside the mooer gives the axe a tight figth cause the main difference is in a subtle ecualization.
In the mix i choose the Axe fx cause I like beter that more modern/tigther sound.
But listening them alone I prefer the mooer.
I think that those diferences can be minimized by using a ir loader and a power amp emulation on the mooer.
Do the Axe fx had a Power amp simulation activated?
Is the cab sim on the mooer an IR ?
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Yeah, the power amp emulation was definitely active on the axefx. With the brown sound, its built into the IR. You dont have any control over it really. Theres only one volume and it controls the volume of the pedal, not the master of the "amp"
@@TaylorDanley thanks for your reply!
There are no doubts that the pedal its REALY good!
A tremendous bang for the buck pedal.
I made a comparision of it with the friedman beod, the mxr 5150 and the tightmetal and the mooer was the winner for me. (using a poweramp emulator and an ir loader)
How about a comparison between the Mooer UK Gold and the Joyo British? 🤔 Are you into Orange? The Joyo Oxford Sound could be something new for you to test.
I have Golden 012 of this series and I like colors my amplifier with it and using it as kind of an Attenuation device to bring the amp volume down to room level on my DSL100HR head. It also colors the amp really sweet on the blue channel of these pedals through the effects loop. That with the Mooer Radar cab pedal, BOSS EQ Pelal, delays reverb etc..,... and you can really get your rig to sound bad ass live. I was thinking about buying this pedal and now listening to it I just might.
Add an Amptweaker Depth Finder to the Mooer (or any similar direct rig), James Brown designed and adds presence. It’s like a tonal secret weapon.
🤔🤔🤔 I'm interested in your idea!
Taylor Danley it’s a nice addition for sure, adds resonance and presence controls for any solid state setup, but has had great results for my direct rigs. Especially when they sound flat or muddy. Like taking a blanket off!
@@timcarstensen9951 I'm gonna check this out! Thanks for the suggestion.
For the price and quality he delivers Mooer 005
In the mix i like the brown sound better but on there own the axe fx3 sounds way better. Very interesting.
they're two different amps ? the mooer is a 5150 lll model , the axe fx block letter is a diff amp ?
I still will buy the brown sound 3. But I want mooer to make a engl savage pedal.
Yeah, they have the blackmore which is pretty awesome in my opinion! Savage is my go to though on the axefx... would be nice!
Mooer pedals sound great !!
Great video. In the mix they sound really close to me..
More against the AxeFx please.. Since AxeFx is the kinda standard.
Have you done the Atomic 6 or 12? It would be cool to do the same against the AxeFx. I dig these videos. It would also be interesting to use the same IR on these to take that out of the equation. I realize you are trying to use the stock IRs. Just thinking a comparison with the same exact IR would really show off the amp model.. Thanks so much for sharing these great vids..
Thanks! 🙌 All good suggestions, I do have some stuff in the works similar to what you are asking for!
Given the price disparity the mooer did pretty deece. But there's def some 3d imaging in the highs that's putting it firmly in second place here. - Capt'n Obvious
This isnt obvious to some people, lol. I love my axefx 3 more than most things, but I cant put it in my pocket, that's where the mooer shines. If you only need one amp (two channels mind you), then it's a no brainer! Thanks for commenting Chris! 🤗🥰🥳
Bro are those katanas hanging there in the background?? Great video! Just bought an 005 based on this
😂 yes. I used one in one of my unboxing videos a while back, they can come in handy lol.
I like the mooer way better!
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Mooer wins. Hilarious. Sounds great man!
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The Mooer 005 sounded better than the Axe-Fx. More mids snd less scooped.
Wow! Excellent comparison! This convinces me that I should purchase one as backup to my Helix! [I use Helix direct in P.A. for live gigs]. Problem: I’d love to pick the most versatile unit (good fat super clean & good crunch.(tend not to use overly distorted models to achieve cut). However, task is daunting because there are so many models. Any suggestions? 👍🎸🎼🙏🎧
Thanks! To be honest, I think that's up to you. I only have 2 of them, and I think they are both excellent.
Taylor Danley Thx! Will do some research, but they look like great backup units👍🎸
@@lpgoog 100% they are perfect for that scenario!
would it make sense to pair these preamp pedals with a plugin offering that houses it's own separate power amp section going into the cabIR?
Why did it make that noise after playing with the mooer?
I wondered a comparison with mooer 005
005 is a 5150 clone, there is now a 6505 clone (edit : mooer 015), you have to try it too
Thanks for the video
Which one is the 6505 clone? The circuitry of the 5150 and 6505 is the same, so it's weird they would make another micro pre that's essentially the same.
@@TaylorDanley
This is the 015 ;)
@@TaylorDanley the 015 is a 5150 (peavey) the 005 is a 5150iii (EVH fender?)
@@peponline88 Haha, you're right! How did I miss that? Follow up vid imminent...
@@TaylorDanley great!!!!!
and maybe you could compare them with the 001 diezel based
Nice
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mooer sounds better imo
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Not fair. The mooer 005 does not have an emulated poweramp. Try next time with a mooer radar. Mooer 005 is just a preamp.
Mooer has an IR built in, If you hold the preamp selection It starts blinking and engage the cab simulador. But in Mooer's preamp is a simpler IR not meant to be used in all cases
Good comparison! But if they use the same custom IR, the tone would be really close. I had compared my Mooer 005 and FX2. 😄