My brand-new PC last February was Windows 11 23H2, but after 4 Months of horizontal file and photo folders and a schizophrenic performance with my external hard drives, I finally "UPGRADED" it to Windows 10 22H2 and it has been smooth operating ever since.
Removing the requirement is quite easy and IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 doesn't even have that requirement. I think the main reason people still don't like it is because many parts of its U.I frankly suck. The whole Recall situation doesn't help either.
@@Jon717 non-LTSC of loT Enterprise doesn't have that requirement either (at least for 24h2), so it is technically possible to install normal windows 11 on unsupported devices without having to do some stuff to skip requirements.
As long as Microsoft requires recall with keylogging and snapshots of my private information, I will not upgrade to 11. If something like this comes to Windows 10 I will totally quit using Windows and fully change over to Linux. Linux is getting better now. I paid for my copy of Windows and it is MINE! If i don't agree with policies of Microsoft and no choice is available allowing control of the OS, Linux will be the new thing.
Recall all the fuss over nothing you have to have a compatible Co-pilot+ AI CPU for it to run on and there are very few people that own such high end hardware so lots of people are getting their panties in a bunch over absolutely nothing.
I have three PCs currently running Windows 10. None of them "qualifies" for Windows 11 (not that I actually wanted it). Was I going to throw away and replace three perfectly good computers, just because Almighty Microsoft said so?!?!? Not a snowball's chance in Hell!!! One of them, which I use for music and video production, will stay on Windows 10. It already spends 99% of its time offline at present; going 100% offline won't be a big issue on that machine. The other two, which I use for more day to day purposes, are going to be Linux machines. I'm already testing out Linux distros for these.
I held off upgrading to Windows 11 because of all the bad things I heard people say about it. I installed it on my two older computers with the idea of playing around with it. With a couple tweaks I had it looking like Windows 7 as I had Windows 10. So I went ahead and installed it on my two computers that met the requirements. All four computers for me are running fine. I would say bite the bullet an install Windows 11. They other thing I would say is that since it's running fine on my two older computers the Windows 11 system requirements are BS.
I don't want Microsoft to take snapshot of my doings with seconds interval and use AI to analyze it. You can turn it off, but you would have to check every month that Microsoft hasn't "accidentally" turned it on, like they have done with their other features.
For those who would like to try Linux, Zorin would be the best option. Looks like Windows with much better looking. I' using it for more than 1 year and it's really amazing. Thank you for another great video!
They just want more money, theyr'e practically turning Windows into a subscription base service. I can't use Linux, I tried but certain software that I rely on is just not available.
Thanks, Brian. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if that first year of updates from Microsoft is charged at $30, then a _2nd_ year will cost $60. (if they offer it after the first year). I'm using both Windows and Linux (for however long I can stay with 23H2), because they both have their respective advantages, but I'm a fanboy of neither one. Almost every day I read online posts made by people (like me) who are relatively new to Linux, and they're using it, but they're also (again like me) still using Windows at the same time. It's nice knowing about the various options (tools) for updating/upgrading Windows. There's always the possibility that one or more of em will come in handy. Thanks again. 👍🏼
If Microsoft wants people to upgrade their OS they should release Windows 12 instead of putting an AI patch on win 11. We've waited long enough for Windows 12.
@@OlettaLiano I agree I still use win 7 with old updates and same here no problems just used the Vkxt kernel extension to run some later programs, though it doesn’t do all programs but most like the win dynamic desktop for windows 10 and 11 it does because there’s also an exe install as well as a store app I found
@@jasonhawkins4528 Just be aware that so many vulnerabilities are found in the win7 systems that in that case of a directed attempt to hijacks your system would be unnoticed. Other than that it is my best looking Win OS ever.
This is good news. They had been touting $61 for businesses, so $30 for home users isn't bad. I have two PCs and one laptop that will never run Windows 11, so getting another year out of them is not bad, and hopefully gives Microsloth another year to get most of the bugs out of Windows 11 before I have to move on to it, assuming they actually start testing patches before they release them. And maybe when I do have to buy a new machine (I'll only buy one) maybe what I can get for my money will be better too. There's still going to be a lot of PCs being dumped into landfills. Not good.
now in the final year of support I've downloaded linux mint.. and am getting ready for that big jump. I've set up dual boot and I dis conect the windows from the internet & use linux for connecting to interent, easy peasey...& no more m$ rubbish..
I wonder how many millions of folks will just continue to use Windows 10 after it's end of life date? I turned TPM off on my PC in the BIOS so I wouldn't get Windows 11.
I was at the same point with Windows 7 as I will be soon on Windows 10. I always do a System Image every week, if you get a virus or any other issue just restore to the image. The tool for creating a System Image is built into Windows: Control Panel > Backup and Restore > Create a System Image (top left). If you get any major issues (even if you are fully patched with new updates) you will still want to restore the system. Used Win 7 for years with no issues, always had an image to fall back on.
Learn Linux in the meantime, keep an old Windows PC around just in case you need it or dual boot. Linux is very easy once you get the gist of it. Been on Linux for about a year now and only needed my dual boot maybe 5 times then turned Windows right back off. Highly recommend Linux Mint or Pop OS. Very solid, dependable and user friendly.
@@robpet4424 If you really don't need something specialized that only works with Windows then Linux is a no brainer. I understand that Linux in the past had its issues but these days it's more dependable than Windows.
I wish I could, but Linux has given me nothing but problems with what I tried to do with it. As nearly all my software is windows only, trying to run it on Linux, even through WINE just gives me too many problems and not all of it is compatible.
Thank you for this video! I recently made the switch to Linux Mint and i do not regret it. However, I noticed that you didn't mention Chrome OS and Fyde OS. It would be interesting to discuss those!
I've been using Linux Mint for at least 15 years now, it's the closest thing to windows you'll find, but yes, for gaming and such there are limitations, but you won't find a more secure OS than Linux. Heck, i'm still using windows 7 on my laptop, AND getting updates.
I was a windows user until 2 years ago. I heard that windows would not work on my laptop at that time. So i prepared myself, dual booted kubuntu. Then i couldn't get nordvpn to work with kubuntu so I installed zorin in its place but i chose the lite version. Was not happy with the theming. I decided to go with Linux mint 20.3. About a few months later, I stopped using windows completely because my windows would be slow as a snail while mint was quick. That was my journey, I switched because i didnt want to deal with not being able to use windows.
Not only would I need to replace a windows 10 computer but two perfectlygood printers and a scanner would be junked because there are no Windows 11 drivers. For modest home office functions windows 10 is just fine and I have bought a Windows 11 laptop to connect to the internet, do email etc. Thanks Microsoft - I remember the promise that Windows 10 was the final windows os.
As always Brian thanks for a honest an informative video. I'm on Windows 10 IOT LTSC 21H2. I thougt that I would get security updates free until 2032. But you said in the video that from 2027 and until 2032 that the sevice of updates should be paid for. Where can I find information about that. On my secondary pc I would go the Linux way. Have a nice weekend.
Hi John, Yes updates will be free. Not thinking straight right now sorry, just lost my brother. www.msembedded.biz/fileadmin/user_upload/msembedded/docs/avs-ms-embedded-biz-product-support-availability.pdf
Nice video Brian opatch is good it's also common sense helps. To be honest I am still using windows 7 with a Kernal, obviously not banking on it, I use my phone and I've had no trouble I don't think hackers are too botherd about hacking old systems but i'm also careful on what I do. I've also replaced my CD/DVD drive to a hdd for backup so all id good
@@Britec09 Yes I agree I didn't want to pay for it plus I'm still in love with win 7 GUI aero and dreamscene because Win 11 24H2 stopped stardock deskscapes working and I asked them if they will update it and they are not sure themselves plus my older software for dts coding etc doesn't work on 11 24H2
$30 is not bad. This is the first time Microsoft has offered extended support for home users. Windows 11 has allot smaller user base then Windows 10. The strict Windows 11 system requirements creates a huge waste problem. Microsoft wants users to thrown out their old PC and buy a new Windows 11 PC., but some PCs 4-5 years old may still work well and so peuple don't want to buy a new PC
@daveadams6421 yeah I'm wait for microsoft to make it where it's cloud base only os and make it impossible for other people that don't have internet can't use windows lol
Microsoft's biggest asset is its Windows 10 users which still has 61% market share almost twice of Windows 11. If microsoft abandon their largest user base and we see some cyber attack happen on windows 10 which is still used by businesses. their stock price will go down very quickly and this should teach them their lesson.
am afraid in home user some or business some high level computers be in the like thrift store only can t upgrade to windows 11 ..and I bought old refurbished levono tablet with windows 11 from a store want to reformat to english version of windows 11 and than system tell me I can t cause of system requirements
People say Windows 10 is 61% whereas the optional* Steam hardware survey says 51.97% *Optional is the people who did not take the survey don't show up to skew as the data is not there and missing.
Microsoft only makes a small portion of their revenue from the Windows operating system. If they can convert users over to a subscription basis their profits will soar.
Jesus, here's an idea. Side load Linux, learn to live with it and only use windows 10 for software that is not available on linux, but stay OFFLINE only on windows. Thats my plan
Brian in this video you mentioned about Linux being an option - You need to add what computer manufactures support Linux 100 % and tell the public so that they'll be more at ease. I found out that Lenovo is one of the High contenders that Linux supports And Acer has failed after 2018 on newer machines . But if people don't know -How are they going to switch... so please get that info out there ...
$30 dollars is a reasonable price to avoid Windows 11. My PC "was" a Windows 11 Pro 23H2 bought new on February 21, 2024, as I have mentioned before, but after 4 Months of "Windows 11 Hell" I finally "upgraded" my PC to Windows 10 22H2 and have been happy ever since. So, any offer to stay on Windows except the "Horrid" 11 version is welcome. I would like to see an operating system from a British company, but with Kier Starmer as PM, that's very unlikely in my lifetime.
I'm on a dual-boot PC: I use Win10 Home for more serious stuff (which involves a lot of file handling), and Win11 Pro for gaming. Win11 is OK for gaming, but working with files is a nightmare. So, for me, that MS solution would be fine - until they make Win11 a bit easier to work with files. (my PC meets the Win11 requirements).
Defo going Linux, half way there. The vast majority of Windows users don't need those special pieces of software that isn't on Linux. Adobe has been found to be used by less than 2% of Windows users. Even me as a Windows user I used Gimp if I needed to edit some graphics or create a logo or a banner. Now there is a new upgrade of Gimp in the pipelines, more user friendly. Teams... a lot is doable in the browser, so even Linux users can have Teams meetings. And there is a virtual machine that can run Windows within Linux and I am going to explore that option, aside from what I already have: Win11Pro on a Gen2 usb to boot from, like a computer of its own. Once I was happy with the configurations and settings, I created a clone on another such usb, in case the first one got rogue. Not paying any extra dime to Microsoft. I strongly recommend people to explore Linux, for the sake of their wallets and also online security as less malware is made for Linux still. That might change in the future, but for now any sensible online behaviour should keep the vast majority of Linux users safe, and that without additional bloatware like paid antivirus software is.
It's not like you're that important that Microsoft will spy on you specifically. You're only part of non-personally identifying telemetry data. I don't get the "spy" argument.
Windows 11 works fine on older hardware, and the likelihood of MS blocking installation on unsupported hardware, while struggling to get people to install Windows 11... not much.
What happens exactly if I do nothing? Will they make me upgrade to window 11? Will I just be risking my PC for security issues that most my other software protects me from usually better than windows does? I am certain my PC will run windows 11, but windows 10 works just fine and I know it and am used to it, I won't pay to keep it, nor would I pay to upgrade.
Linux Zorin OS is the best equivalent OS to Windows. It looks pretty and function much the same and will fit Windows users much more then Linux Mint. It also has support for Windows third party Software. Using Lutris as a container will help to do that. Question, How to downgrade a laptop that comes with Windows 11 with intel IrisXe graphic card to Windows 10 when the NVME is not recognizable? I managed to install Windows 10 but I god the blue screen of death.
@@Britec09 Off course they are both completely different, and still, there are ways to run Windows third party software using Lutris as a container, and Zorin will give to Windows users a feel like they are at a very familiar place. So it is a no brainer to recommend to Windows users to use Zorin OS.
If possible upgrade to window 11, it's worth it and free. An easier system to navigate around with new fast software. I get warnings about carbon emissions when I put everything on full power. I don't care because I know our ozone layer disperses them.
Windows 10's support will ACTUALLY end when apps stop supporting it. I have tested using Windows 11 22000.1 with the updates PAUSED, and guess what? NO Viruses or any security problems were there.
I have moved to Linux when Windows 10 was released. I still use Windows but only rarely, when play PC games or need to use some app that works on Windows only. Linux is free and have free software, as mentioned in the video, it is also an open source. Been using Ubuntu before, now on Mint. I have been part of Linux Mint community for a long time, made about 17 donations and never felt any toxicity towards new Linux users. Some members might be toxic but that's internet. Most of the Linux community members are ready to help if you need one. I hate the direction in which Windows is going. It cares more about profit than user experience. For me, the last true Windows was Windows 7. Btw, you can install Linux alongside Windows, dual boot or, as in my case, have two drives for each OS. Also, I have no idea where people get this idea that Linux is hard to use. If you know how to use Windows properly, than Linux wont be a problem. I actually find Linux interface, at least Mint, very simple. Some features that Linux had Windows introduced in Windows 10, as if developers on Microsoft copied from Linux.
Nothing that you will know of. Casual browsing does in fact put one at risk for malware if you do not use an adblocker to mitigate that which is Malvertising and outdated vulnerabilities that *might* be utilized in items such as browsers and/or programs. Malware authors are smart and tend to make their viruses not known to the user at all or until its too late. Seriously though, even if the person in charge is smart enough to avoid dangerous behavior such as running malware or falling victim to a phishing attempt, in the end, anyone who is anyone -regardless of being internet savy- can have their moments.
I was using windows 7 till the start of 2024, till the hard drive packed in , but than again i was only using for Microsoft office stuff & nothing else
I've seen videos of good hackers, and the hackers get around patches in a matter of minutes or hours... So having "current" Windows does not seem to matter.
Just make a dual boot machine . Some thing's won't work on Linux but as a daily Web runner it's fine . A lot of code is on the Web . Just copy and paste and it installs. I have my vpn on it brave . Tor ..kodi etc . Been on it for 8 months now and only use Windows for stuff that won't work on Linux.
Microsoft's treachery and greed after publishing that Windows 10 would be the last numbered one then it would be a rolling 'service' (albeit with small fees) has already bitten them. UK education and medical etc departments of state ceased pre-arranged contract continuity 2 years after Windows 11 appeared and was technically scrutinised. W11 has not improved since that survey and consensus is that in many ways it is seriously inferior. Aside from so-called 'security' standards being proved to be bogus and CPU blacklists being chaotic (Intel has big cases in progress in most US states), UK, Commonwealth and several EU states are assembling lists of privacy infringements in W11 and some high-end product makers offer W11 or W10 on direct order machines. Brian's points about Linux are valid but usage share of the whole is growing at an accelerated pace, notably 'distros' which resemble Windows or Mac and the tertiary education sector has been a leader in dumping Microsoft except for some games which only play on Windows. Fine, the games industry will adapt and some companies have released to up to 4 of the Linux types (as opposed to distros, as the latter are based on a handful of kernels), noting customer satisfaction due mainly to freedom from Windows bloat. Brian showed a clip of Libre Office. Over several years those of us in education have LO to be superior to Office because the latter makes too many irrational changes and re-badges stuff dating back to the 1990s. LO has evolved with English as the main language but always set out to offer worldwide use. Its languages packs are first rate and there is nothing in Office 365 -- even the full version -- which LO cannot do. MS Publisher has been cut down but 2 sections of LO surpassed it several years ago. The freedom to customise is very rich with some effort and the results remain on the machine in question. Some MS copyright features might be grasped in the desperate fist of M'soft but contributors and innovators write their own then become mildly commercial. Microsoft, in my quite well informed opinion, has already lost the market and this began some time ago when it was evident that the business model was one of lease and not sale of a complete product. The trajectory of decline could be similar to that of the Windows phone and Zune.
@@koioo2 We go to the latest or the last and be careful. I use 7 since 2/2023 and to be honest I've had no trouble because win 11 was annoying on the updates switching things back etc and blocking apps
@@koioo2 If you look hard enough on YT you'll find the means to re-start official Windows7 Support from MS. It is out there - and MS is indeed still supporting it. : )
Will I need a Microsoft account to purchase the ESU? Will company's like CDCkeys sell the ESU's? If i could get the esu for $5.00 instead of $30.00 that would be a deal. Thanks for the video.
Recently, my Dad's 10 year old Samsung laptop's HDD was going bad, running so terribly slowly that I advised him to get an SSD. No nvme ports so a Samsung 2.5" was purchased to replace it. He seemed more worried than me about the lack of support for Win10 in the very near future and asked about Win 11. I told him that Win 11 had very specific "minimum" hardware requirements in order to install and run and then told him his laptop was not going to meet said requirements. However, I had received several YT recommended videos about Win 11 "hardware work arounds" but never watched any of them, so I looked one up and gave it a shot. I don't know what, if any implications there are going forward, but now Dad has a laptop that runs Win 11 perfectly and is as fast at loading as any new laptop would ever be. No regrets so far and for the £7.67 for a Pro Retail key and the £40 for the SSD. It was a no brainer.
@@onetruecharlatan Yeah, I saw that. But rather than playing along with his concerns, maybe you shuld have explained that W11 is considerably less secure and private. A lot of people hear the hacker stories and "you gotta update" crap and don't know any better than to play along. Sometimes education is its own best reward.
One example... I recently decided to take a long look at Mint. Now I'm a total nube on Linux so I had some rather beginerish questions I needed answered... I signed into the Linux forum and posted a message with 4 questions about desktop setup, sound and general operations. The answers I got were amazing... "What, you can't figure that out for yourself?" .... "Do you really not know this?" ... and my favourite ... "Another Windows wanker here to bother us". Trust me... that is NOT how you bring converts into the fold.
Hmm Brian an explanation for those of us who see this Microsoft nonsense going on just why are they do this to the Windows OS is it purely because of security in for my mind this way of getting you to pay for security updates after the end of life for 10 is simply holding out the carrot for more money and hitting you wth a big stick if you don't pay for something they could simply let you have anyway. Again it is down to greed I suspect and well we have had to put up with this for ages now eh?
You know people are always trying to tell us how unsafe old versions of windows is but when i went to the local hospital a month ago to get a bone density scan they were still using windows 7. Explain that. Are you gonna tell me that a place that makes thousands of dollars for doing nothing can't afford to upgrade their computers! Clearly better security is just a ruse to get users to do what Microsoft and Google wants. Pretty sure the biggest issue for people still using windows 7 is probably not security but compatability. If it's so unsafe then why are hospitals and the government still using it?
Win11 is ugly, slow and eats up 4GB of ram on idle. There is absolutely no reason to upgrade to Win11 as all your apps still work in. Win10. I will skip Win 11 completely like i skipped Win8 😂
I can't wait until Microsoft stops updating Windows 10. Those updates are a nuisance and I tend to use Linux to hack the windows drive and remove all of Windows defender and all its anti malware services that slow down your computer windows update will invariably put some of this crap back. And I am a software engineer and I don't care a darn about security updates I have other means to keep my computers secure...I don't like and don't want Window 11, Microsoft are making their operating system more and more intrusive and there are only a few apps I need that only run on windows otherwise I would switch to Linux for good.
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Microsoft can take Windows 11 and go to where the Sun don't shine.
and they can stick it up their moon
Sun is set tough. Ask Oracle if you don't believe me ;)
@@mimimmimmimim Nice... 👌
that is the way sometimes about Microsoft but Microsoft is a huge business they have latest and greatest computers .linux build by you and me
What a joke when Microsoft says they care about "Green Planet" but push people to throw their PCs to trash.
Even though they could donate their pcs to Africa.
because some people are dumb enough to throw a PC that works instead of paying 30 bucks or even just using it with some common sense past end of life
Or just install linux mint
Most people would be fine installing windows 11 if Microsoft would just get rid of the TPM 2.0 requirement, but Microsoft refuses to do so.
My brand-new PC last February was Windows 11 23H2, but after 4 Months of horizontal file and photo folders and a schizophrenic performance with my external hard drives, I finally "UPGRADED" it to Windows 10 22H2 and it has been smooth operating ever since.
Removing the requirement is quite easy and IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 doesn't even have that requirement. I think the main reason people still don't like it is because many parts of its U.I frankly suck. The whole Recall situation doesn't help either.
Not on a 2 core.
@@Jon717 non-LTSC of loT Enterprise doesn't have that requirement either (at least for 24h2), so it is technically possible to install normal windows 11 on unsupported devices without having to do some stuff to skip requirements.
TPM is not the main ssue, the main isse is the CPU generation
Sweet, didnt even know i could test linux distros in a browser till this video, thanks Brian, gonna have a little play.
You're welcome
As long as Microsoft requires recall with keylogging and snapshots of my private information, I will not upgrade to 11. If something like this comes to Windows 10 I will totally quit using Windows and fully change over to Linux. Linux is getting better now. I paid for my copy of Windows and it is MINE! If i don't agree with policies of Microsoft and no choice is available allowing control of the OS, Linux will be the new thing.
Recall can be disabled and it only works on NPU right now.
@@Britec09 Right now? That's the problem.
Bingo.
Recall all the fuss over nothing you have to have a compatible Co-pilot+ AI CPU for it to run on and there are very few people that own such high end hardware so lots of people are getting their panties in a bunch over absolutely nothing.
@@Sirlarrythecat it's not absolutely nothing.
I have three PCs currently running Windows 10. None of them "qualifies" for Windows 11 (not that I actually wanted it). Was I going to throw away and replace three perfectly good computers, just because Almighty Microsoft said so?!?!? Not a snowball's chance in Hell!!!
One of them, which I use for music and video production, will stay on Windows 10. It already spends 99% of its time offline at present; going 100% offline won't be a big issue on that machine. The other two, which I use for more day to day purposes, are going to be Linux machines. I'm already testing out Linux distros for these.
I held off upgrading to Windows 11 because of all the bad things I heard people say about it. I installed it on my two older computers with the idea of playing around with it. With a couple tweaks I had it looking like Windows 7 as I had Windows 10. So I went ahead and installed it on my two computers that met the requirements. All four computers for me are running fine. I would say bite the bullet an install Windows 11. They other thing I would say is that since it's running fine on my two older computers the Windows 11 system requirements are BS.
I don't want Microsoft to take snapshot of my doings with seconds interval and use AI to analyze it. You can turn it off, but you would have to check every month that Microsoft hasn't "accidentally" turned it on, like they have done with their other features.
For those who would like to try Linux, Zorin would be the best option. Looks like Windows with much better looking. I' using it for more than 1 year and it's really amazing. Thank you for another great video!
Thanks for the tip!
They just want more money, theyr'e practically turning Windows into a subscription base service. I can't use Linux, I tried but certain software that I rely on is just not available.
$30 for an extra year is not bad for people who want to hang on to there old pc and don't want to use Linux
Thanks, Brian. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if that first year of updates from Microsoft is charged at $30, then a _2nd_ year will cost $60. (if they offer it after the first year).
I'm using both Windows and Linux (for however long I can stay with 23H2), because they both have their respective advantages, but I'm a fanboy of neither one. Almost every day I read online posts made by people (like me) who are relatively new to Linux, and they're using it, but they're also (again like me) still using Windows at the same time.
It's nice knowing about the various options (tools) for updating/upgrading Windows. There's always the possibility that one or more of em will come in handy. Thanks again. 👍🏼
All we know right now is its a one year deal of $30 no mention of second year, but things change all the time.
If Microsoft wants people to upgrade their OS they should release Windows 12 instead of putting an AI patch on win 11. We've waited long enough for Windows 12.
I'm not paying MS one penny for updates on Windows 10. In fact, I disabled all MS updates on my PC over a year ago and not had a single problem.
@@OlettaLiano I agree I still use win 7 with old updates and same here no problems just used the Vkxt kernel extension to run some later programs, though it doesn’t do all programs but most like the win dynamic desktop for windows 10 and 11 it does because there’s also an exe install as well as a store app I found
@@jasonhawkins4528 Just be aware that so many vulnerabilities are found in the win7 systems that in that case of a directed attempt to hijacks your system would be unnoticed.
Other than that it is my best looking Win OS ever.
This is good news. They had been touting $61 for businesses, so $30 for home users isn't bad. I have two PCs and one laptop that will never run Windows 11, so getting another year out of them is not bad, and hopefully gives Microsloth another year to get most of the bugs out of Windows 11 before I have to move on to it, assuming they actually start testing patches before they release them. And maybe when I do have to buy a new machine (I'll only buy one) maybe what I can get for my money will be better too. There's still going to be a lot of PCs being dumped into landfills. Not good.
now in the final year of support I've downloaded linux mint.. and am getting ready for that big jump. I've set up dual boot and I dis conect the windows from the internet & use linux for connecting to interent, easy peasey...& no more m$ rubbish..
Seems MS had no choice, due to their failure with 11. Thanx Brian 👍👍👍
Very welcome
So we're paying for their mistakes?
@margaretjbuckley what do you expect from Microsoft.
I wonder how many millions of folks will just continue to use Windows 10 after it's end of life date? I turned TPM off on my PC in the BIOS so I wouldn't get Windows 11.
I was at the same point with Windows 7 as I will be soon on Windows 10. I always do a System Image every week, if you get a virus or any other issue just restore to the image. The tool for creating a System Image is built into Windows: Control Panel > Backup and Restore > Create a System Image (top left). If you get any major issues (even if you are fully patched with new updates) you will still want to restore the system. Used Win 7 for years with no issues, always had an image to fall back on.
Learn Linux in the meantime, keep an old Windows PC around just in case you need it or dual boot. Linux is very easy once you get the gist of it. Been on Linux for about a year now and only needed my dual boot maybe 5 times then turned Windows right back off. Highly recommend Linux Mint or Pop OS. Very solid, dependable and user friendly.
Done same thing...never had a problem with Linux Mint. However, I am a home user.
@@robpet4424 If you really don't need something specialized that only works with Windows then Linux is a no brainer. I understand that Linux in the past had its issues but these days it's more dependable than Windows.
Sorry dude but I'm not interested in that solution, I've always used Windows and I'd prefer to stay using it as it is what I'm used to.
@@MorbidCrow666 Cool, enjoy
I wish I could, but Linux has given me nothing but problems with what I tried to do with it. As nearly all my software is windows only, trying to run it on Linux, even through WINE just gives me too many problems and not all of it is compatible.
Thanks for this update news Brian.
Any time!
Thank you for this video! I recently made the switch to Linux Mint and i do not regret it. However, I noticed that you didn't mention Chrome OS and Fyde OS. It would be interesting to discuss those!
I've been using Linux Mint for at least 15 years now, it's the closest thing to windows you'll find, but yes, for gaming and such there are limitations, but you won't find a more secure OS than Linux. Heck, i'm still using windows 7 on my laptop, AND getting updates.
Running Win11 on older pcs 12 to 16yrs old with no issues. Very fast as long as upgrade to core i7 chips, max memory, and using ssd's.
My oldest is 13 currently, still running like clockwork
It is not the cpu u are having is is more the motherboard that it matters.
I was a windows user until 2 years ago. I heard that windows would not work on my laptop at that time. So i prepared myself, dual booted kubuntu. Then i couldn't get nordvpn to work with kubuntu so I installed zorin in its place but i chose the lite version. Was not happy with the theming. I decided to go with Linux mint 20.3.
About a few months later, I stopped using windows completely because my windows would be slow as a snail while mint was quick.
That was my journey, I switched because i didnt want to deal with not being able to use windows.
Not only would I need to replace a windows 10 computer but two perfectlygood printers and a scanner would be junked because there are no Windows 11 drivers. For modest home office functions windows 10 is just fine and I have bought a Windows 11 laptop to connect to the internet, do email etc. Thanks Microsoft - I remember the promise that Windows 10 was the final windows os.
Thanks Brian. Another great video.
Thanks for the donation Mike 👍
@Britec09 you’re welcome.
As always Brian thanks for a honest an informative video.
I'm on Windows 10 IOT LTSC 21H2.
I thougt that I would get security updates free until 2032.
But you said in the video that from 2027 and until 2032 that the sevice of updates should be paid for.
Where can I find information about that.
On my secondary pc I would go the Linux way.
Have a nice weekend.
Hi John, Yes updates will be free. Not thinking straight right now sorry, just lost my brother. www.msembedded.biz/fileadmin/user_upload/msembedded/docs/avs-ms-embedded-biz-product-support-availability.pdf
Thankyou, Brian. 👍
Very welcome
Nice video Brian opatch is good it's also common sense helps. To be honest I am still using windows 7 with a Kernal, obviously not banking on it, I use my phone and I've had no trouble I don't think hackers are too botherd about hacking old systems but i'm also careful on what I do. I've also replaced my CD/DVD drive to a hdd for backup so all id good
Its going to come down to weather people want to pay for updates
@@Britec09 Yes I agree I didn't want to pay for it plus I'm still in love with win 7 GUI aero and dreamscene because Win 11 24H2 stopped stardock deskscapes working and I asked them if they will update it and they are not sure themselves plus my older software for dts coding etc doesn't work on 11 24H2
$30 is not bad. This is the first time Microsoft has offered extended support for home users. Windows 11 has allot smaller user base then Windows 10. The strict Windows 11 system requirements creates a huge waste problem. Microsoft wants users to thrown out their old PC and buy a new Windows 11 PC., but some PCs 4-5 years old may still work well and so peuple don't want to buy a new PC
I think $30 is fair for people who want to continue to use Windows 10
Everything will be subscription based. Everything!
Very possible, we will need to wait and see.
@@darrenvail8726 I must admit it’s getting that way
Linus mention rumors that they might do win 12 but subscription
Windows 365 is already available - subscription based cloud solution
@daveadams6421 yeah I'm wait for microsoft to make it where it's cloud base only os and make it impossible for other people that don't have internet can't use windows lol
I'm still on windows 7 and it works great.. People are just going to keep using it anyway.
Microsoft's biggest asset is its Windows 10 users which still has 61% market share almost twice of Windows 11.
If microsoft abandon their largest user base and we see some cyber attack happen on windows 10 which is still used by businesses.
their stock price will go down very quickly and this should teach them their lesson.
am afraid in home user some or business some high level computers be in the like thrift store only can t upgrade to windows 11 ..and I bought old refurbished levono tablet with windows 11 from a store want to reformat to english version of windows 11 and than system tell me I can t cause of system requirements
I think they will extend for another 2 years after 2025
Will Microsoft double the prices after the first year meaning year 2 would be $60 and year 3 would be $120 for a total of $210 for all 3 years!?
People say Windows 10 is 61% whereas the optional* Steam hardware survey says 51.97%
*Optional is the people who did not take the survey don't show up to skew as the data is not there and missing.
Microsoft only makes a small portion of their revenue from the Windows operating system. If they can convert users over to a subscription basis their profits will soar.
For the DieHards remaining on Windows 10, just keep a good antivirus/security app on your PC/Laptop. Good to keep on going!!
Yeah this is good news especially for my father who just doesn’t want to upgrade to Windows 11.
Maybe this can help him
@@Britec09 I’m sure if he doesn’t change his mind between now and the EOL, we will certainly pay the $30.
Jesus, here's an idea. Side load Linux, learn to live with it and only use windows 10 for software that is not available on linux, but stay OFFLINE only on windows. Thats my plan
Yeah but mostly ppl using win for software that needs internet as well. (I'm referring to multi player games) Editing softwares should be fine.
It's not a stupid plan.
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Thank you for sharing this
You are so welcome
Brian in this video you mentioned about Linux being an option - You need to add what computer manufactures support Linux 100 % and tell the public so that they'll be more at ease. I found out that Lenovo is one of the High contenders that Linux supports And Acer has failed after 2018 on newer machines . But if people don't know -How are they going to switch... so please get that info out there ...
I ask operating system : dear Windows 10 do you love me? if yes then don't leave me.
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@@anshumanmishraw windows 10. Of course I won’t leave you as long as you disconnect me from Microsoft 😂👍
Windows 10: I would never leave you babe.
$30 dollars is a reasonable price to avoid Windows 11. My PC "was" a Windows 11 Pro 23H2 bought new on February 21, 2024, as I have mentioned before, but after 4 Months of "Windows 11 Hell" I finally "upgraded" my PC to Windows 10 22H2 and have been happy ever since. So, any offer to stay on Windows except the "Horrid" 11 version is welcome. I would like to see an operating system from a British company, but with Kier Starmer as PM, that's very unlikely in my lifetime.
Canonical, the company who develops Ubuntu, is British.
I will prefer installing Windows 11 on my unsupported hardware than using Linux. That doesn't mean i hate Linux, l have a laptop with Linux Mint XFCE.
Lawsuit incoming.
I'm on a dual-boot PC: I use Win10 Home for more serious stuff (which involves a lot of file handling), and Win11 Pro for gaming. Win11 is OK for gaming, but working with files is a nightmare. So, for me, that MS solution would be fine - until they make Win11 a bit easier to work with files. (my PC meets the Win11 requirements).
Defo going Linux, half way there. The vast majority of Windows users don't need those special pieces of software that isn't on Linux. Adobe has been found to be used by less than 2% of Windows users. Even me as a Windows user I used Gimp if I needed to edit some graphics or create a logo or a banner. Now there is a new upgrade of Gimp in the pipelines, more user friendly. Teams... a lot is doable in the browser, so even Linux users can have Teams meetings.
And there is a virtual machine that can run Windows within Linux and I am going to explore that option, aside from what I already have: Win11Pro on a Gen2 usb to boot from, like a computer of its own. Once I was happy with the configurations and settings, I created a clone on another such usb, in case the first one got rogue.
Not paying any extra dime to Microsoft. I strongly recommend people to explore Linux, for the sake of their wallets and also online security as less malware is made for Linux still. That might change in the future, but for now any sensible online behaviour should keep the vast majority of Linux users safe, and that without additional bloatware like paid antivirus software is.
I am moving to Linux Mint 22. I won't use Microsoft spyware anymore!
Thats you're choice
@@Britec09 Exactly.,and i'm sorry for your experience with toxic ppl. With every community that grows, the A-holes are pouring in as well,
It's not like you're that important that Microsoft will spy on you specifically. You're only part of non-personally identifying telemetry data. I don't get the "spy" argument.
Windows 11 works fine on older hardware, and the likelihood of MS blocking installation on unsupported hardware, while struggling to get people to install Windows 11... not much.
How risky will it be to just use Win10 without updates and minimal internet use?
Over time it would be very risky
What happens exactly if I do nothing? Will they make me upgrade to window 11? Will I just be risking my PC for security issues that most my other software protects me from usually better than windows does? I am certain my PC will run windows 11, but windows 10 works just fine and I know it and am used to it, I won't pay to keep it, nor would I pay to upgrade.
No, you can continue to use Windows 10 without security updates and not pay anything, but its a risk.
Nothing happens ... your computer will continue to work just like it does today.
Linux Zorin OS is the best equivalent OS to Windows. It looks pretty and function much the same and will fit Windows users much more then Linux Mint. It also has support for Windows third party Software.
Using Lutris as a container will help to do that.
Question, How to downgrade a laptop that comes with Windows 11 with intel IrisXe graphic card to Windows 10 when the NVME is not recognizable? I managed to install Windows 10 but I god the blue screen of death.
can all links and files be transferred to Linux from w10?
@@Porkypies6m
There's a guy named Matt from Mattscreative. He will give you a much better answer.
Zorin is nice, but Linux is no equivalent OS to Windows. They are both completely different
@@Britec09
Off course they are both completely different, and still, there are ways to run Windows third party software using Lutris as a container, and Zorin will give to Windows users a feel like they are at a very familiar place. So it is a no brainer to recommend to Windows users to use Zorin OS.
Thank you sharing information sir
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Captain America: No, no I don't think I will.
If possible upgrade to window 11, it's worth it and free. An easier system to navigate around with new fast software. I get warnings about carbon emissions when I put everything on full power. I don't care because I know our ozone layer disperses them.
Just wondering if a reputable antivirus enough to protect windows 10 as it is….
I plan on using the Winsdows 10 has a platform for Virtual Machines that are upgradable like linux and others.
Windows 10's support will ACTUALLY end when apps stop supporting it. I have tested using Windows 11 22000.1 with the updates PAUSED, and guess what? NO Viruses or any security problems were there.
You deserve this 🏆 as others might not be so fortunate.
@Mario583a wdym? Are you on drugs or smth?
hmmm I wonder if win11 security updates will work on 10, even if you manually install them, looks like the same or compatible codebase,
I have moved to Linux when Windows 10 was released. I still use Windows but only rarely, when play PC games or need to use some app that works on Windows only.
Linux is free and have free software, as mentioned in the video, it is also an open source. Been using Ubuntu before, now on Mint.
I have been part of Linux Mint community for a long time, made about 17 donations and never felt any toxicity towards new Linux users. Some members might be toxic but that's internet. Most of the Linux community members are ready to help if you need one.
I hate the direction in which Windows is going. It cares more about profit than user experience. For me, the last true Windows was Windows 7.
Btw, you can install Linux alongside Windows, dual boot or, as in my case, have two drives for each OS.
Also, I have no idea where people get this idea that Linux is hard to use. If you know how to use Windows properly, than Linux wont be a problem. I actually find Linux interface, at least Mint, very simple. Some features that Linux had Windows introduced in Windows 10, as if developers on Microsoft copied from Linux.
Linux works fine. I haven't toxicity
Thanks
Will do.
what will happened if i use windows 10 without security updates? nothing... i do that always in my old laptop running windows 7
Nothing that you will know of.
Casual browsing does in fact put one at risk for malware if you do not use an adblocker to mitigate that which is Malvertising and outdated vulnerabilities that *might* be utilized in items such as browsers and/or programs.
Malware authors are smart and tend to make their viruses not known to the user at all or until its too late.
Seriously though, even if the person in charge is smart enough to avoid dangerous behavior such as running malware or falling victim to a phishing attempt, in the end, anyone who is anyone -regardless of being internet savy- can have their moments.
I was using windows 7 till the start of 2024, till the hard drive packed in , but than again i was only using for Microsoft office stuff & nothing else
ABSOLUTELY !!!
MS can take Win11 and throw it on the trash dump, where all the Intel 13 and 14 Gen CPUs lie ....
honestly I thought it was gonna be much worse but that's relatively fine
This is fine🔥
I've seen videos of good hackers, and the hackers get around patches in a matter of minutes or hours... So having "current" Windows does not seem to matter.
Right ! Time to move to Linux 😉
What date you can purchase the extension to windows 10 because I have two pc with a intel i9 7 generation with 4gb graphics
Microsoft just extended W10 support till 2026 but it's £30😢 good job I switched to Linux 😊😊
Hell I stayed on Windows 7 until well into Windows 10. There was no real pain to doing so
I'm still on XP
@@JayJenkins-ps4jg how do you do with updates and security patch
@@koioo2 Takes a bit of tinkering but i managed to get xp on my 2024 computer
Yes I'm still on it with Kernal vex and like your experience I have no trouble
@@JayJenkins-ps4jg Yes it can be done
I am still on winXP with no trouble. All my newer machines are Linux based
Just make a dual boot machine . Some thing's won't work on Linux but as a daily Web runner it's fine . A lot of code is on the Web . Just copy and paste and it installs. I have my vpn on it brave . Tor ..kodi etc . Been on it for 8 months now and only use Windows for stuff that won't work on Linux.
I still run Windows 7 on my old computer, I'm learning Linux so I can ditch Windows 10.
Defo don't abandon the PC and feel the need to spend money for a new one, better downloading Linux instead..
Microsoft's treachery and greed after publishing that Windows 10 would be the last numbered one then it would be a rolling 'service' (albeit with small fees) has already bitten them.
UK education and medical etc departments of state ceased pre-arranged contract continuity 2 years after Windows 11 appeared and was technically scrutinised. W11 has not improved since that survey and consensus is that in many ways it is seriously inferior.
Aside from so-called 'security' standards being proved to be bogus and CPU blacklists being chaotic (Intel has big cases in progress in most US states), UK, Commonwealth and several EU states are assembling lists of privacy infringements in W11 and some high-end product makers offer W11 or W10 on direct order machines.
Brian's points about Linux are valid but usage share of the whole is growing at an accelerated pace, notably 'distros' which resemble Windows or Mac and the tertiary education sector has been a leader in dumping Microsoft except for some games which only play on Windows. Fine, the games industry will adapt and some companies have released to up to 4 of the Linux types (as opposed to distros, as the latter are based on a handful of kernels), noting customer satisfaction due mainly to freedom from Windows bloat.
Brian showed a clip of Libre Office. Over several years those of us in education have LO to be superior to Office because the latter makes too many irrational changes and re-badges stuff dating back to the 1990s. LO has evolved with English as the main language but always set out to offer worldwide use. Its languages packs are first rate and there is nothing in Office 365 -- even the full version -- which LO cannot do. MS Publisher has been cut down but 2 sections of LO surpassed it several years ago. The freedom to customise is very rich with some effort and the results remain on the machine in question.
Some MS copyright features might be grasped in the desperate fist of M'soft but contributors and innovators write their own then become mildly commercial.
Microsoft, in my quite well informed opinion, has already lost the market and this began some time ago when it was evident that the business model was one of lease and not sale of a complete product.
The trajectory of decline could be similar to that of the Windows phone and Zune.
Which is why I don't trust any computer.
I like the smokers reference! Good analogy.
Thanks
Over 50% of the video is just product promotion; please reduce this.
Windows 10 - Ha! I'm still using Seven!!!!!
Keep showin' em
how do you do with updates and security patch
Same here
@@koioo2 We go to the latest or the last and be careful. I use 7 since 2/2023 and to be honest I've had no trouble because win 11 was annoying on the updates switching things back etc and blocking apps
@@koioo2 If you look hard enough on YT you'll find the means to re-start official Windows7 Support from MS. It is out there - and MS is indeed still supporting it. : )
So that would be US dollars, which would be 45.73 Australian dollars.
Yeah I'll pay for it.. heck I've got another PC with W7 on still.
Ha! Imagine paying Microsoft for security updates as a solution to a problem they created.
5 dollars for extended support every year
Will I need a Microsoft account to purchase the ESU? Will company's like CDCkeys sell the ESU's? If i could get the esu for $5.00 instead of $30.00 that would be a deal. Thanks for the video.
Recently, my Dad's 10 year old Samsung laptop's HDD was going bad, running so terribly slowly that I advised him to get an SSD. No nvme ports so a Samsung 2.5" was purchased to replace it. He seemed more worried than me about the lack of support for Win10 in the very near future and asked about Win 11. I told him that Win 11 had very specific "minimum" hardware requirements in order to install and run and then told him his laptop was not going to meet said requirements. However, I had received several YT recommended videos about Win 11 "hardware work arounds" but never watched any of them, so I looked one up and gave it a shot. I don't know what, if any implications there are going forward, but now Dad has a laptop that runs Win 11 perfectly and is as fast at loading as any new laptop would ever be. No regrets so far and for the £7.67 for a Pro Retail key and the £40 for the SSD. It was a no brainer.
You could have put in a SATA SSD that works just like a hard drive only lots faster and reinstalled Windows 10, no problems.
@@Douglas_Blake_579 "He seemed more worried than me about the lack of support for Win10" 😳
@@onetruecharlatan
Yeah, I saw that.
But rather than playing along with his concerns, maybe you shuld have explained that W11 is considerably less secure and private.
A lot of people hear the hacker stories and "you gotta update" crap and don't know any better than to play along. Sometimes education is its own best reward.
You can still use your computer!! It’s not going to stop working. You all need to stop being controlled by Microsoft.
win xp or 7, others are crap, but in the end of the day, linux is the king
😒👍 Windows 7 FTW
What kind of toxic Linux users do you keep running into, anyway? Never thought about it until now.
The kind that are nasty and troll in comments on my TH-cam channel.
One example... I recently decided to take a long look at Mint.
Now I'm a total nube on Linux so I had some rather beginerish questions I needed answered... I signed into the Linux forum and posted a message with 4 questions about desktop setup, sound and general operations.
The answers I got were amazing... "What, you can't figure that out for yourself?" .... "Do you really not know this?" ... and my favourite ... "Another Windows wanker here to bother us".
Trust me... that is NOT how you bring converts into the fold.
The 'just use Linux for everything' kind? Stubbed your toe? Linux would safely avoid this.
Strange I am running windows 7 on my home server, and I still get security updates LOL.
The files are on the Microsoft Update Catalog, the only thing that changes is the date of your current country.
So, Windows 11 is an upgrade?
Windows 10 iot ltsc is an upgrade in itself to regular windows 10
Hmm Brian an explanation for those of us who see this Microsoft nonsense going on just why are they do this to the Windows OS is it purely because of security in for my mind this way of getting you to pay for security updates after the end of life for 10 is simply holding out the carrot for more money and hitting you wth a big stick if you don't pay for something they could simply let you have anyway. Again it is down to greed I suspect and well we have had to put up with this for ages now eh?
upgraded to w11, after one week upgraded to Linum Mint, no dual boot
You know people are always trying to tell us how unsafe old versions of windows is but when i went to the local hospital a month ago to get a bone density scan they were still using windows 7. Explain that. Are you gonna tell me that a place that makes thousands of dollars for doing nothing can't afford to upgrade their computers! Clearly better security is just a ruse to get users to do what Microsoft and Google wants. Pretty sure the biggest issue for people still using windows 7 is probably not security but compatability. If it's so unsafe then why are hospitals and the government still using it?
they don t use the internet and is t connected to the internet but with out the internet is good to use
They want to save money, the have hundreds of PC's to upgrade, it's just not worth it. Also hospitals don't go to sketchy websites or pirate games.
Not connected to the internet
@@Britec09 Then why are hospitals and big companies and banks targeted by cyber criminals if they are not connected to the internet?
Billing software vulnerability -
Win11 is ugly, slow and eats up 4GB of ram on idle. There is absolutely no reason to upgrade to Win11 as all your apps still work in. Win10. I will skip Win 11 completely like i skipped Win8 😂
*downgrade to win 11
A 2 core can't update or have a workaround for windows 11 everyone.
I hate win 11 running Linux mint 22 I’m very happy 🤔🇺🇸 hasta la vista Windows 😎
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$30 x 500,000,000 people = $15,000,000,000 😵
You never told me how to pay the $30 to Windows!!
Just go with Linux or Harmony OS.
I can't wait until Microsoft stops updating Windows 10. Those updates are a nuisance and I tend to use Linux to hack the windows drive and remove all of Windows defender and all its anti malware services that slow down your computer windows update will invariably put some of this crap back. And I am a software engineer and I don't care a darn about security updates I have other means to keep my computers secure...I don't like and don't want Window 11, Microsoft are making their operating system more and more intrusive and there are only a few apps I need that only run on windows otherwise I would switch to Linux for good.