Anyone changing oil at 7500 or 10,000 miles is just asking for trouble and eventual burning oil. Oil is cheap, engines are not. Please folks, change your oil at 5000 miles.
I was just thinking about that and wonder what he'd think about this video! He also suggest you change your oil every 5,000 miles regardless of how you drive!
I am sure when TCCN stated cheapest he meant lowest price option oil change. If you pay for synthetic oil change, they are not going to use the cheapest unless the dealer wants a lawsuit.
Like car care nut says.. The oil change intervals end up being way more important than the oil brand as long as you're using the correct weight and it's certified. A side by side comparison would be interesting thou, say after 200k miles both engines oil were changed every 5k... To see if noticeable more wear on one with one oil brand vs another.
I have a 2000 Toyota Camry LE 2.2L. The Camry was given to me by my late cousin it was his father's Camry. I'm the 4th owner of the Camry. The oil I use is Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage Synthetic oil 5w 30. My cousin and his father Pennzoil or Quaker State which is made by the same company. I have always used Pennzoil. I've never had any issues with Pennzoil. I change the oil every 3000 miles. The Camry now has 185,000 or just over it. I change the oil every 3000 miles like cloak work. When the Camry was given to me it had 166,492 miles on it.
The thin oils were chosen for 2 reasons: - Fuel economy (due to thinner oil versus say 5W30 BUT at the cost of protection) - Fuel savings in that the oil will get to N.O.T quicker than 5W30 for example (so the engine won't have to idle at a higher rate for as long).
The oil change interval varies according to the owners manual based on how the vehicle is driven. The manual lists 2 different scenarios, normal and severe. Severe would be short trips, towing, cold weather climates etc. If the severe conditions are met the oil change interval is cut in half.
Or if you have a 2012-2017 Camry and you want the engine to not die sooner than it should..... (In regards to needing to do the "in-between" oil changes)
The owners manual doesn’t say that only comment is if you can’t find 0w-16 use 0w-20 but change back at next change. There is a small notice that server usage may need a thicker oil but no other mention of what to use like the temperature charts they use to use. Fact is all cars fall under the server usage, where people get confused is taxis and police cars are extreme usage not server.
Dealers are the ones who get the service costs. The only thing that manufacturers see from it are the parts cost, which dealers get at a wholesale prices. Manufacturers will even usually have to pay dealers to cover warranty work.
The owners manual will tell you what specs the oil needs to meet / exceed. So if the oil that you buy meets / exceeds those requirements then you will NOT void your warranty.
I remember a service rep told me Toyotas OEM oil is actually Mobil 1 Advanced Full Synthetic. Which explains why when I first bought my Rav4 in 2016, they said they only needed annual oil changes. Needless to say, I am still not comfortable with annual oil changes and prefer to do it every 6 months in the Spring and Fall (my miles stay below 5k miles every 6 months so its easier for me to go based on time and I have a fresh batch prior to the extreme seasons of cold winters and hot summers). When I stopped taking it to the dealership (once the free maintenance plan went away) I was doing Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy, then switched to Mobil 1 High Mileage once I hit the 75k mark. Now with a second car (a Cadillac) that uses the same viscosity level, I just buy the Kirkland brand from Costco which comes in a box of two 5 quart bottles. Just as good and at 90k miles she still runs like a champ. Provided the electronics hold up I expect 200k miles from her easily.
Just bought a new Toyota Camry SE and their recommended oil change interval is every 5000 miles. Theres a great video that breaks down the additives in oem toyota, mobile 1, penzoil and one other motor oil here on TH-cam. Toyota has extra additives that none of the others have, or they have a lot less of certain additives. The former head engine guy for Nissan suggests changing the oil at 2000 miles regularly.
"The former head engine guy for Nissan suggests changing the oil at 2000 miles regularly." Funny. In Nissan products you can change oil every 1000 miles but this won't help. They'll go bankrupt anyway.
Different countries do things differently. For example in Australia for my 2017 Camry, they wanted to use SEMI-SYNTHETIC Castrol engine oil..... Semi-synthetic here in Australia is: Mineral oil that has been blended with Synthetic oil In Australia we are a bit more relaxed about what can be called "full synthetic" Even though it's origin might be from crude oil, if it has essentially been engineered and altered / changed by people with white coats.... We call that Synthetic.... So yeah I supplied my own oil......
When my 2015 Camry started burning oil at a fast rate, I used Valvoline syrhetic extended oil. Then decided to use oem toyota oil to see which was better, and the oem Toyota oil burned alot better than the Valvoline oil did, not even close. Then I decided to try the Pennzoil syrhetic motor oil, and that was so much better in terms of burning oil. I agree with you on the Pennzoil, its a great product. But the Valvoline not so much.
I just started doing my own oil change as Im no longer receiving the "free oil changes" at the dealership, it has 25,770 and I went with Mobile 1 Advance full Synthetic 0W-20 as I live in Texas Heat and think it will do just as good as the 0w-16. will see how she does in the long run I plan to change it every 7,500 miles.
What , you shouldn’t use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Valvoline Extended Performance. You are joking right ? Both are better than either Toyota oil or Mobil 1.
I used to use Mobil 1. Wasn’t a fanboy of it, it’s just what I was used to grabbing. Then, for some odd reason, I decided to switch to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. And IDK what is it about that oil, but my truck just felt better. I do all the maintenance myself and change the oil every 5k miles, no matter if the bottle of oil says 10k-25k life span. So I know it wasn’t because it was neglected and then everything was “fixed”. So PUP is definitely my new “go-to” oil, but I’m not opposed to trying others to see how my truck feels. I’m about to try Valvoline Restore & Protect on my next oil change, sounds like a very promising oil.
Really! Toyota recommended every 10000 miles oil replacement😮 im not leasing the car im buying and keeping the car so i replaced my oil change every 5000 out of my pocket still in my warranty dealer will replace every 10000 miles minus my own pocket every 5000 with same oil Mobil 1
The local Toyota parts store here (it is not connected to any dealer) sells both conventional and synthetic Toyota oil. Conventional oil just above $5 US dollars a quart. They even sell Toyota brand coolant.
in italy they say every 15000 km that is a little less than 10000 american miles, and we only use syntetics oil no one use the mineral o the mixed one.
When you go to toyota dealership for service they don't use toyota oil they use valvoline I don't know why and most newer cars uses 0w16 as someone mentioned earlier
Yep I got oil changed at the Toyota dealership the other day and they swore they use Toyota oil but suddenly my mileage dropped 8mpg. Changed oil with Toyota 0w-16 and magically my mileage improved again
They use whatever bulk oil they got the best deal on and a value filter. I normally buy pennzoil ultra platinum and a oe filter for around $40.00 and the dealer charges $20.00 to change it so I’m still coming in cheaper then there oil change and getting a much higher quality of oil. My gf took her car to get a oil change 1 time and let them use whatever they use and it was completely black before 2k miles. That ultra platinum stays honey brown for a long time 3-4K or more sometimes
@@henrybaez7618 Valvoline Extended additive package has got Castrol beat by a mile. Even their Advance formula is more robust. I prefer Pennzoil Ultra but it’s hard to find and the price is rather steep. Valvoline, either Extended or Advance are both readily available and relatively affordable. You may want to look into them.
Unless you’re willing to pay for the manufacturers oil you getting what ever brand they get the best deal from meeting the specifications. I deliver a lot of Napa (made by valvoline) valvoline,Kendall to dealerships along with aftermarket filters such as Napa proformer,or off brand. So if you think you’re automatically getting your manufactures products without specifically asking and paying a premium for them you are a grossly uneducated consumer.
I’ve heard of both. I’m a tech at a Toyota dealer and we use genuine filters and oil for customers. Anything not 0W-16 and 0W-20 is conventional fluid from Toyota. Or we use mobil 1 full synthetic if preferred by a customer. But I do have buddies at other dealers who say they use fluid from oreillys. My dealer also uses a lot of BG fluids. We use them for brake fluid, differential fluid, and power steering fluid. Otherwise coolant, oil, parts, transmission fluid, are all OEM.
As a AMSOIL DEALER for 12 years and I was curious about where all the San Diego County major Toyota Dealerships Service Departments purchased their Synthetic oils in "Bulk" quantities from, because inside all there (Parts Departments) they all sell by the quart size OEM Genuine Toyota Synthetic oil brand and also Mobil 1 Synthetic oils at high over the counter prices... Funny thing is, all the (Service Departments) buy their Synthetic oils in "Bulk" form and store them in large tanks 80,000 gallons to 100,000 gallon tanks filled by "wholesale" commercial Bulk Oil companies... They do not buy OEM Toyota or Mobil 1, they all buy the lowest priced Synthetic oils like the "ENEOS brand" that meet Toyota API specs and Toyota TGMO specs... ENEOS oil is made in Japan and imported to USA.
i been buying 0w16 from dealer past 5 years i see mobil one 0w16 is like 20 bucks cheaper can i safely switch? My old camry i used the cheapest oil i found no matter of brand had it 300k plus no engine issues ever.
Probably. The owner's manual for your car will specify what sort of oil is required both in terms of oil weight and any required certifications. If your vehicle calls for 0w-16 and requires it to meet ILSAC GF-6B, any oil matching those parameters is likely to work fine. Of those, I'd choose one from a brand I'd done research on and trust. Not all brands are equal, and not all product lines within a single brand are equal either. Make sure you get the /specific/ oil you've researched and decided on when it's time to buy. More importantly than the particular oil itself though (provided it matches the required specs), don't stretch your oil change interval. If you want a long life out of an engine, your best shot is to change your oil more often than required. The manual's guidance is written from the perspective of keeping the engine alive through the warranty period, not keeping it healthy indefinitely.
Yoyota service departments use Bulk oil, not bottled oil from the parts counter. That’s how they make profit on oil changes. No telling what brand Bulk oil, you guess.
No one has been able to tell me if a 0w16 - 0w20 will hold up in the extream tempatures in these low displacement turbo charged engins. I fear we will be seeing a lot of burnt out turbo engins in the future.
Il faut surveiller le niveau d' huile régulièrement. Je le fais environ à chaque plein d' essence, soit tous les 700 kms, ou environ 500 miles. Ma Toyota Yaris (Écho) à 171 000 kms.
Same for coolant... like Suzuki with crappy Ecstar promotions... it's made my Eneos ans relabeled with ecstar logo with a heftier price tag. Super secret coolant technologynthatnonly suzuki knows😂 same with their oil (as API SM!). I use not genuine oil and coolant in my 2007 suzuki
I would like an honest test of the cartridge oil filter for the Toyota Tundra. Most if not all videos show spin on motor filters. The design of the OEM filter is hard for me to believe all the oil is filtered. Do the filters need a ADBV or not? I am not an engineer and appreciate TH-cam videos.
I believe on the canister style oil filter is the anti-drain back valve is built into the filter housing if I’m not mistaken, also, it seems like Toyota values flow rate over absolute filtration, which makes sense so I wouldn’t worry too much. I’m sure it’s doing just a fine job just change it often.
@@gregorymalchuk272 I am not too sure about that Greg. I was just was told from an honest Toyota mechanic friend of mine that the ADBV is definitely built into the filter housing assembly. Hope this helps.
Toyota/Lexus uses 0W20 to meet ours government new fuel consumption and emission norms. They don't want to pay stiff fines. Premature wear out of our engines isn't their problem. You'll return to dealer earlier and bring them more money.
Although Toyota Oil in made by Mobil 1, that is where the similarities end. Mobil 1 makes Toyota oil to Toyotas Specifications. The additive package is very robust especially in the 0w20 & 0w16. Toyota oil is one of the best on the market. FAR superior to M1, Pennz or Castrol.
Toyota's generally do not have highly stressed engine, So I doubt that the additive package is very if at all different between Mobile 1 0W16 / 0W20 and Genuine Toyota oil. Maybe someone has done a lab test and can prove me wrong 🤷♂ And if my car needed oil with that viscosity, I'd be going with Shell (Shell and Pennz are the same company, which is why they only sell Shell oil here in Australia).
@@notsureyouth-cam.com/video/IRwvfvwWbYE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1Hxw2Mtip1-7uGRv Here is the oil analysis you requested. You can see how different the additive package is. The package for Toyota 0w16 is actually very very robust and different from the Mobil 1 0w16.
@@solargoomba The test results leave a lot to be desired, The reason is that for example for the Toyota oil, He didn't use a sample from an oil container (purchased from a Toyota dealership), He drained some out of an engine (that had circa 16km on it). This MIGHT explain the ludicrous high levels of moly in the Toyota oil, Someone suggested online that this is actually left over grease etc from the assembly of the engine. And in fact this value that was significantly higher than the others, should have raised an eyebrow and been a cause for discussion. For this to be a valid test the following criteria needs to be met: - Samples from bottles only - Numerous samples from different sources (oil bottles from different production batches) What also needs to be considered is the type of moly used, Again CLAIMED online is that Toyota specifies an older type of moly, Whereas other oil manufacturers use an updated / better moly.
@@notsureyou th-cam.com/video/_6nWCQ_70J0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0holxaDb585NanXk In this video he directly takes Toyota 0w16 at around 9 minutes from the bottle and sends it to be analyzed. The results are pretty much identical to the first video I posted. I will say fantastic job moving the goal post!!!
@@solargoomba For some reason my reply has disappeared (maybe it will show up again later???) So this new link is from a different guy, who does what the first guy should have done. As you can see in the tables, that the samples vary and show the need to have multiple samples. For example in regards to Magnesium: First link = 727 Second link = 523 Or Boron: First link = 201 Second link = 261 In regards to Moly content: When you see a VOA or UOA of a motor oil that has say 700+ ppm of moly in it, than you can be sure that that particular brand is not using "tri-nuclear" moly in their motor oil. Or at least that's what I've read online 🤷♂
My 21 Land cruiser calls for 0w20, but the same Land cruiser every where else in the world says 5w30, why? They are all built at the same plant in Japan and I have the v8 5.7 engine, which is exactly the same v8 used in ALL the v8 regardless of which country it goes to, so why is it only America that you can only use 0w20 but everywhere else you can use 5w30? Why?
Along with weather conditions, in the US we have stricter emissions laws and they are getting stricter every year. That’s one reason you are seeing all these turbos replacing bigger motors. I do not know if they are actually better for emissions when you are burning as much gas but who knows. Laws are laws though
EPA fuel economy requirements is why in the USA. I was driving a 2001 car. The oil requirement was 5W-20, same exact car 2000 year model oil requirement was 5W-30. EPA had passed more strict mpg requirements.
Strictly due to the need to meet American fuel economy standards, aka CAFE standards. If it does not get extremely cold where you live, you might be able to use 5W-30 and even 10W-30 in the warmer months. In the case of one 1990s era engine, the oil recommendation in the U.S. was 5W-30 and in Australia up to a certain year 20W-50 with the same engine. I followed the U.S. recommendation because I wasn't sure if the U.S. model had tighter bearing clearances. You do need to research what the bearing clearances are and if they have changed. Even if it is the same engine, some aspects of the design could be changed after a certain year. Or different markets could get different variations of the same engine.
2023 Toyota XSE hatchback USA market (Made in Japan) Engine oil sticker calls for 0W/8 engine oil. This is just about impossible to find. I did find it at Toyota Parts Dept. at $20.00 per quart. I was told 2023 is the first year of the Corolla using this new 0W/8 motor oil. Will this oil become more available as time goes by? Right now I am locked into getting it from Toyota Dealership and not all dealerships stock this oil and must special order it. It's that new.🤑🥴😵💫😱🙈
IDEMITSU!!!! they are the main OEM Supplier for Asian/Japanese Brands. something that this guy didn´t mentioned in the video is that idemitsu works directly with the different companies (Nissan,Subaru, Honda, Toyota, etc.) to develope new viscosities and formularions. EXXON only copies the "recipe". IDemitsu is the master Cheff
The oil suppliers for the brands vary by continent and/or country. For Honda in Mexico it is Exxon Mobil, in USA is Conoco Phillips (same manufacturer of Motorcraft for Ford).
My advice. Use the cheapest oil you can get that meets the specification and change it early. Read the fine print in the owner's manual or shop manual. Sometime it will allow different oil weights at different temperature ranges. My car is 20 years old. The recommended oil is 5W-30 but the manual says you can use 10W-30 if the local temperature does not go below 0 F. The manuals for other vehicles I have had say the same. I have long used whatever is the cheapest, but recently 5W-30 has always been the cheapest. Life is tougher for people who do not do their own work though. A large pitfall is that people do not want to accept that all-short-trips driving represents severe service. It may not feel like it, but it is. If you drive a vehicle that does not require synthetic oil, you can use the cheapest oil and filter you can find and go 5000 miles if you do all highway driving, and even get away with going 7500 miles. All of my driving is around my local city, I use semisynthetic and my change interval is 2800 miles.
I hope you can suggest me the best to do. I just bought a new 2024 Rav4 XLE made in Canada three months ago. I live in Mexico City. Well, the manual says that the engine oil that comes from factory is a 0w20, but at the toyota dealer they put a decal in the engine compartment that says that the correct oil for that vehicle is 5W30, and all the dealers in Mexico only sell this kind of oil, 5W30. My question is, is there any problem if I use that oil? I have to take the car for service at the dealer every 6 months or 10,000 kilometers to keep the warranty alive and they only apply that kind of oil. Today I asked the parts manager if they have any other oil and he told me that not, he told me that all the toyota cars sold in Mexico are homologated to use the 5W30 oil. What do you think about all this situations?
I lived in Mexico and had a Toyota Yaris I had serviced at Toyota. I never paid any attention what weight oil they used but it was synthetic. I'm sure Toyota Mexico knows what they are doing. They probably use the 5W30 because of the altitude or harsher environment (heat), but it must be a good reason. Most of Mexico doesn't get that cold so the thinner oil is not needed and a little thicker oil is better.
My Toyota has one of if not the quietest engine that I ever had in a car. 47 years driving and and the 12 cars I have had. It's a 2019 CHR with a 2 litre 4 cylinder that runs whisper quiet. Uses 0w20 oil.
@@davewebster1627 I've heard on YT of people using thicker without any issues, and in countries with less EPA stuff the owners manual apparently allows for the thicker oil. So the MUST USE 0W16 might be due to an emissions target 🤔🤷♂ But unless you can afford a new engine... stick with what the owners manual in your country says....
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Anyone changing oil at 7500 or 10,000 miles is just asking for trouble and eventual burning oil. Oil is cheap, engines are not. Please folks, change your oil at 5000 miles.
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That's interesting because The Car Care Nut who worked for Toyota for years before opening his own shop said they use the cheapest oil out there
I was just thinking about that and wonder what he'd think about this video! He also suggest you change your oil every 5,000 miles regardless of how you drive!
I am sure when TCCN stated cheapest he meant lowest price option oil change. If you pay for synthetic oil change, they are not going to use the cheapest unless the dealer wants a lawsuit.
Like car care nut says.. The oil change intervals end up being way more important than the oil brand as long as you're using the correct weight and it's certified.
A side by side comparison would be interesting thou, say after 200k miles both engines oil were changed every 5k... To see if noticeable more wear on one with one oil brand vs another.
@@nicholasroberts9618 Toyota uses ExxonMobil oils in bulk and in quarts
I have rav4 with 200k always used toyota, thinking of changing to mobile...
I have a 2000 Toyota Camry LE 2.2L. The Camry was given to me by my late cousin it was his father's Camry. I'm the 4th owner of the Camry. The oil I use is Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage Synthetic oil 5w 30. My cousin and his father Pennzoil or Quaker State which is made by the same company. I have always used Pennzoil. I've never had any issues with Pennzoil. I change the oil every 3000 miles. The Camry now has 185,000 or just over it. I change the oil every 3000 miles like cloak work. When the Camry was given to me it had 166,492 miles on it.
0w20 is for fuel economy most engines use 5w30. Toyota dealership uses the cheapest company to contract with.
The thin oils were chosen for 2 reasons:
- Fuel economy (due to thinner oil versus say 5W30 BUT at the cost of protection)
- Fuel savings in that the oil will get to N.O.T quicker than 5W30 for example (so the engine won't have to idle at a higher rate for as long).
The oil change interval varies according to the owners manual based on how the vehicle is driven. The manual lists 2 different scenarios, normal and severe. Severe would be short trips, towing, cold weather climates etc. If the severe conditions are met the oil change interval is cut in half.
Or if you have a 2012-2017 Camry and you want the engine to not die sooner than it should.....
(In regards to needing to do the "in-between" oil changes)
The owners manual doesn’t say that only comment is if you can’t find 0w-16 use 0w-20 but change back at next change. There is a small notice that server usage may need a thicker oil but no other mention of what to use like the temperature charts they use to use.
Fact is all cars fall under the server usage, where people get confused is taxis and police cars are extreme usage not server.
I changed my oil at Toyota dealer . They're use 5W-30 for my 09 Tacoma and its run smooth.
‘99 4Runner. 513,000 miles. Factory filter, Mobil 1 every 10,000 miles.
Mobil 1 every 5,000 miles for me.
Your gamble paid off.
Dealers are the ones who get the service costs. The only thing that manufacturers see from it are the parts cost, which dealers get at a wholesale prices. Manufacturers will even usually have to pay dealers to cover warranty work.
The owners manual will tell you what specs the oil needs to meet / exceed.
So if the oil that you buy meets / exceeds those requirements then you will NOT void your warranty.
I remember a service rep told me Toyotas OEM oil is actually Mobil 1 Advanced Full Synthetic. Which explains why when I first bought my Rav4 in 2016, they said they only needed annual oil changes. Needless to say, I am still not comfortable with annual oil changes and prefer to do it every 6 months in the Spring and Fall (my miles stay below 5k miles every 6 months so its easier for me to go based on time and I have a fresh batch prior to the extreme seasons of cold winters and hot summers). When I stopped taking it to the dealership (once the free maintenance plan went away) I was doing Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy, then switched to Mobil 1 High Mileage once I hit the 75k mark. Now with a second car (a Cadillac) that uses the same viscosity level, I just buy the Kirkland brand from Costco which comes in a box of two 5 quart bottles. Just as good and at 90k miles she still runs like a champ. Provided the electronics hold up I expect 200k miles from her easily.
Just bought a new Toyota Camry SE and their recommended oil change interval is every 5000 miles. Theres a great video that breaks down the additives in oem toyota, mobile 1, penzoil and one other motor oil here on TH-cam. Toyota has extra additives that none of the others have, or they have a lot less of certain additives. The former head engine guy for Nissan suggests changing the oil at 2000 miles regularly.
"The former head engine guy for Nissan suggests changing the oil at 2000 miles regularly." Funny. In Nissan products you can change oil every 1000 miles but this won't help. They'll go bankrupt anyway.
@@bobsum1745 absolutely no relevance
Different countries do things differently.
For example in Australia for my 2017 Camry, they wanted to use SEMI-SYNTHETIC Castrol engine oil.....
Semi-synthetic here in Australia is:
Mineral oil that has been blended with Synthetic oil
In Australia we are a bit more relaxed about what can be called "full synthetic"
Even though it's origin might be from crude oil, if it has essentially been engineered and altered / changed by people with white coats....
We call that Synthetic....
So yeah I supplied my own oil......
Toyotas 0w-16 oil has a better additive package than others. Amsoil has now added a new signature 0w-16 yet to be tested.
When my 2015 Camry started burning oil at a fast rate, I used Valvoline syrhetic extended oil. Then decided to use oem toyota oil to see which was better, and the oem Toyota oil burned alot better than the Valvoline oil did, not even close. Then I decided to try the Pennzoil syrhetic motor oil, and that was so much better in terms of burning oil. I agree with you on the Pennzoil, its a great product. But the Valvoline not so much.
I just started doing my own oil change as Im no longer receiving the "free oil changes" at the dealership, it has 25,770 and I went with Mobile 1 Advance full Synthetic 0W-20 as I live in Texas Heat and think it will do just as good as the 0w-16. will see how she does in the long run I plan to change it every 7,500 miles.
What , you shouldn’t use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Valvoline Extended Performance.
You are joking right ?
Both are better than either Toyota oil or Mobil 1.
I tested few oils in my cars and found the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum to be the best one.
I used to use Mobil 1. Wasn’t a fanboy of it, it’s just what I was used to grabbing. Then, for some odd reason, I decided to switch to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. And IDK what is it about that oil, but my truck just felt better. I do all the maintenance myself and change the oil every 5k miles, no matter if the bottle of oil says 10k-25k life span. So I know it wasn’t because it was neglected and then everything was “fixed”. So PUP is definitely my new “go-to” oil, but I’m not opposed to trying others to see how my truck feels.
I’m about to try Valvoline Restore & Protect on my next oil change, sounds like a very promising oil.
@@leo-ub6nb Same for me
Really! Toyota recommended every 10000 miles oil replacement😮 im not leasing the car im buying and keeping the car so i replaced my oil change every 5000 out of my pocket still in my warranty dealer will replace every 10000 miles minus my own pocket every 5000 with same oil Mobil 1
Here in EU for instance Toyota and Total also have some kind of partnership.
Guess Total was the cheapest here for them
change your oil every 5k miles or 6 months if your using toyota oil or cheapest from walmart.
Costco on sale is cheaper than Walmart. But not everyone has a Costco membership
You should ask project farms TH-cam channel.
The local Toyota parts store here (it is not connected to any dealer) sells both conventional and synthetic Toyota oil. Conventional oil just above $5 US dollars a quart. They even sell Toyota brand coolant.
I have been using Mobil1 for many years, but I have realized there are engine oil better.
Use only the best oils - Castrol, Mobil 1, or Liqui Moly
in italy they say every 15000 km that is a little less than 10000 american miles, and we only use syntetics oil no one use the mineral o the mixed one.
When you go to toyota dealership for service they don't use toyota oil they use valvoline I don't know why and most newer cars uses 0w16 as someone mentioned earlier
Yep I got oil changed at the Toyota dealership the other day and they swore they use Toyota oil but suddenly my mileage dropped 8mpg. Changed oil with Toyota 0w-16 and magically my mileage improved again
Why? because Valvoline is cheaper is about profit. That's why i change my oil use Castrol and buy it in Walmart.
They use whatever bulk oil they got the best deal on and a value filter. I normally buy pennzoil ultra platinum and a oe filter for around $40.00 and the dealer charges $20.00 to change it so I’m still coming in cheaper then there oil change and getting a much higher quality of oil. My gf took her car to get a oil change 1 time and let them use whatever they use and it was completely black before 2k miles. That ultra platinum stays honey brown for a long time 3-4K or more sometimes
@@thetechlibrarian I hate these service shops that use bulk oil. Because customers really don't know what's in that jug
@@henrybaez7618 Valvoline Extended additive package has got Castrol beat by a mile. Even their Advance formula is more robust.
I prefer Pennzoil Ultra but it’s hard to find and the price is rather steep.
Valvoline, either Extended or Advance are both readily available and relatively affordable.
You may want to look into them.
Unless you’re willing to pay for the manufacturers oil you getting what ever brand they get the best deal from meeting the specifications. I deliver a lot of Napa (made by valvoline) valvoline,Kendall to dealerships along with aftermarket filters such as Napa proformer,or off brand. So if you think you’re automatically getting your manufactures products without specifically asking and paying a premium for them you are a grossly uneducated consumer.
I’ve heard of both. I’m a tech at a Toyota dealer and we use genuine filters and oil for customers. Anything not 0W-16 and 0W-20 is conventional fluid from Toyota. Or we use mobil 1 full synthetic if preferred by a customer. But I do have buddies at other dealers who say they use fluid from oreillys. My dealer also uses a lot of BG fluids. We use them for brake fluid, differential fluid, and power steering fluid. Otherwise coolant, oil, parts, transmission fluid, are all OEM.
0W-16 is SN that’s what’s on the bottles I got from the dealership.
You can now add 0w8 to the list.👍
As a AMSOIL DEALER for 12 years and I was curious about where all the San Diego County major Toyota Dealerships Service Departments purchased their Synthetic oils in "Bulk" quantities from, because inside all there (Parts Departments) they all sell by the quart size OEM Genuine Toyota Synthetic oil brand and also Mobil 1 Synthetic oils at high over the counter prices... Funny thing is, all the (Service Departments) buy their Synthetic oils in "Bulk" form and store them in large tanks 80,000 gallons to 100,000 gallon tanks filled by "wholesale" commercial Bulk Oil companies... They do not buy OEM Toyota or Mobil 1, they all buy the lowest priced Synthetic oils like the "ENEOS brand" that meet Toyota API specs and Toyota TGMO specs... ENEOS oil is made in Japan and imported to USA.
0w-16 Mobil1 + Toyota or Mobil1 filter very 4k miles on my 2022 Camry.
i been buying 0w16 from dealer past 5 years i see mobil one 0w16 is like 20 bucks cheaper can i safely switch? My old camry i used the cheapest oil i found no matter of brand had it 300k plus no engine issues ever.
Probably. The owner's manual for your car will specify what sort of oil is required both in terms of oil weight and any required certifications. If your vehicle calls for 0w-16 and requires it to meet ILSAC GF-6B, any oil matching those parameters is likely to work fine. Of those, I'd choose one from a brand I'd done research on and trust. Not all brands are equal, and not all product lines within a single brand are equal either. Make sure you get the /specific/ oil you've researched and decided on when it's time to buy. More importantly than the particular oil itself though (provided it matches the required specs), don't stretch your oil change interval. If you want a long life out of an engine, your best shot is to change your oil more often than required. The manual's guidance is written from the perspective of keeping the engine alive through the warranty period, not keeping it healthy indefinitely.
@@Tbird761 it says 0w16 sn/en/rc i don't see rc on any other oil
Yes, and now you can afford a yummy pancake breakfast at the truck stop.
The Total, shell and castrol equivalent are kust as good.
Yoyota service departments use Bulk oil, not bottled oil from the parts counter. That’s how they make profit on oil changes. No telling what brand Bulk oil, you guess.
Last time my Lexus dealer changed my oil they used a no-name brand of oil and filter.
...this... sounds like A.I voice...
No one has been able to tell me if a 0w16 - 0w20 will hold up in the extream tempatures in these low displacement turbo charged engins. I fear we will be seeing a lot of burnt out turbo engins in the future.
I don’t doubt those engines won’t last to extreme miles like older engines did 250k+ but I doubt it will be oil related
the toyota handbook says it may worth using a higher viscosity oil if the car is used under severe conditions
@@williamgould2855 Thank you.
Il faut surveiller le niveau d' huile régulièrement. Je le fais environ à chaque plein d' essence, soit tous les 700 kms, ou environ 500 miles.
Ma Toyota Yaris (Écho) à 171 000 kms.
Change your oil more often than recommended.
Same for coolant... like Suzuki with crappy Ecstar promotions... it's made my Eneos ans relabeled with ecstar logo with a heftier price tag. Super secret coolant technologynthatnonly suzuki knows😂 same with their oil (as API SM!). I use not genuine oil and coolant in my 2007 suzuki
Toyota Avalon, as I remember, uses 5W-30
I would like an honest test of the cartridge oil filter for the Toyota Tundra. Most if not all videos show spin on motor filters. The design of the OEM filter is hard for me to believe all the oil is filtered. Do the filters need a ADBV or not? I am not an engineer and appreciate TH-cam videos.
I believe on the canister style oil filter is the anti-drain back valve is built into the filter housing if I’m not mistaken, also, it seems like Toyota values flow rate over absolute filtration, which makes sense so I wouldn’t worry too much. I’m sure it’s doing just a fine job just change it often.
@@thetechlibrarian You are correct. It is built into the filter housing with cartridge filters.
@@jamesj.litteriojr.433 So the rubber in the antidrainback valve doesn't get replaced with each filter change? Or is it a metal check ball?
@@gregorymalchuk272 I am not too sure about that Greg. I was just was told from an honest Toyota mechanic friend of mine that the ADBV is definitely built into the filter housing assembly. Hope this helps.
Toyota/Lexus uses 0W20 to meet ours government new fuel consumption and emission norms. They don't want to pay stiff fines. Premature wear out of our engines isn't their problem. You'll return to dealer earlier and bring them more money.
Although Toyota Oil in made by Mobil 1, that is where the similarities end. Mobil 1 makes Toyota oil to Toyotas Specifications. The additive package is very robust especially in the 0w20 & 0w16. Toyota oil is one of the best on the market. FAR superior to M1, Pennz or Castrol.
Toyota's generally do not have highly stressed engine,
So I doubt that the additive package is very if at all different between Mobile 1 0W16 / 0W20 and Genuine Toyota oil.
Maybe someone has done a lab test and can prove me wrong 🤷♂
And if my car needed oil with that viscosity, I'd be going with Shell (Shell and Pennz are the same company, which is why they only sell Shell oil here in Australia).
@@notsureyouth-cam.com/video/IRwvfvwWbYE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1Hxw2Mtip1-7uGRv
Here is the oil analysis you requested. You can see how different the additive package is. The package for Toyota 0w16 is actually very very robust and different from the Mobil 1 0w16.
@@solargoomba The test results leave a lot to be desired,
The reason is that for example for the Toyota oil,
He didn't use a sample from an oil container (purchased from a Toyota dealership),
He drained some out of an engine (that had circa 16km on it).
This MIGHT explain the ludicrous high levels of moly in the Toyota oil,
Someone suggested online that this is actually left over grease etc from the assembly of the engine.
And in fact this value that was significantly higher than the others, should have raised an eyebrow and been a cause for discussion.
For this to be a valid test the following criteria needs to be met:
- Samples from bottles only
- Numerous samples from different sources (oil bottles from different production batches)
What also needs to be considered is the type of moly used,
Again CLAIMED online is that Toyota specifies an older type of moly,
Whereas other oil manufacturers use an updated / better moly.
@@notsureyou th-cam.com/video/_6nWCQ_70J0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0holxaDb585NanXk
In this video he directly takes Toyota 0w16 at around 9 minutes from the bottle and sends it to be analyzed. The results are pretty much identical to the first video I posted. I will say fantastic job moving the goal post!!!
@@solargoomba For some reason my reply has disappeared (maybe it will show up again later???)
So this new link is from a different guy, who does what the first guy should have done.
As you can see in the tables, that the samples vary and show the need to have multiple samples.
For example in regards to Magnesium:
First link = 727
Second link = 523
Or Boron:
First link = 201
Second link = 261
In regards to Moly content:
When you see a VOA or UOA of a motor oil that has say 700+ ppm of moly in it, than you can be sure that that particular brand is not using "tri-nuclear" moly in their motor oil.
Or at least that's what I've read online 🤷♂
I thought Mobil made the Toyota oil. Look at Mobil Super Synthetic Oil bottle and Toyota Oil bottle. Exact same shape.
0W-20 and 5W-30 are Mobil 1, but not 0W-16. Not sure who makes it though.
My 21 Land cruiser calls for 0w20, but the same Land cruiser every where else in the world says 5w30, why? They are all built at the same plant in Japan and I have the v8 5.7 engine, which is exactly the same v8 used in ALL the v8 regardless of which country it goes to, so why is it only America that you can only use 0w20 but everywhere else you can use 5w30? Why?
Sir this is due to weather ! If you look on some oil fill caps they will suggest 5w30 or 0w20.
Along with weather conditions, in the US we have stricter emissions laws and they are getting stricter every year. That’s one reason you are seeing all these turbos replacing bigger motors. I do not know if they are actually better for emissions when you are burning as much gas but who knows. Laws are laws though
Wondering the same thing. What about 0-30. I’m thinking that is the ticket.
EPA fuel economy requirements is why in the USA. I was driving a 2001 car. The oil requirement was 5W-20, same exact car 2000 year model oil requirement was 5W-30. EPA had passed more strict mpg requirements.
Strictly due to the need to meet American fuel economy standards, aka CAFE standards. If it does not get extremely cold where you live, you might be able to use 5W-30 and even 10W-30 in the warmer months. In the case of one 1990s era engine, the oil recommendation in the U.S. was 5W-30 and in Australia up to a certain year 20W-50 with the same engine. I followed the U.S. recommendation because I wasn't sure if the U.S. model had tighter bearing clearances. You do need to research what the bearing clearances are and if they have changed. Even if it is the same engine, some aspects of the design could be changed after a certain year. Or different markets could get different variations of the same engine.
Didn't care for the digital voice, especially the way it was botching SAE.
Mobil makes a lot of private label products
2023 Toyota XSE hatchback USA market (Made in Japan) Engine oil sticker calls for 0W/8 engine oil. This is just about impossible to find. I did find it at Toyota Parts Dept. at $20.00 per quart. I was told 2023 is the first year of the Corolla using this new 0W/8 motor oil. Will this oil become more available as time goes by? Right now I am locked into getting it from Toyota Dealership and not all dealerships stock this oil and must special order it. It's that new.🤑🥴😵💫😱🙈
Most of those car say if x isn’t available to use x but change early. Read your manual and see if you can use 0w16 or 0w20 and change it out at 5k
@@thetechlibrarian I use 0W/8 as stated on label in engine compartment.
@@microminiskirtI believe the manual says you can also use 0W-16.
is it just a relabeled Mobile 1?
Useless info. You could have at least told us the additive package in Toyota oil. I hear Toyota uses a large amount of Molybdenum.
I order idemitsu oil directly from Japan, later loosers
Exxon mobil1 makes most of the manufacturers oil and lu ricant
Castrol have the best oil !
How about honda?? Where did they get there engine oils from??
IDEMITSU!!!! they are the main OEM Supplier for Asian/Japanese Brands. something that this guy didn´t mentioned in the video is that idemitsu works directly with the different companies (Nissan,Subaru, Honda, Toyota, etc.) to develope new viscosities and formularions. EXXON only copies the "recipe". IDemitsu is the master Cheff
The oil suppliers for the brands vary by continent and/or country. For Honda in Mexico it is Exxon Mobil, in USA is Conoco Phillips (same manufacturer of Motorcraft for Ford).
My advice. Use the cheapest oil you can get that meets the specification and change it early. Read the fine print in the owner's manual or shop manual. Sometime it will allow different oil weights at different temperature ranges. My car is 20 years old. The recommended oil is 5W-30 but the manual says you can use 10W-30 if the local temperature does not go below 0 F. The manuals for other vehicles I have had say the same. I have long used whatever is the cheapest, but recently 5W-30 has always been the cheapest. Life is tougher for people who do not do their own work though. A large pitfall is that people do not want to accept that all-short-trips driving represents severe service. It may not feel like it, but it is. If you drive a vehicle that does not require synthetic oil, you can use the cheapest oil and filter you can find and go 5000 miles if you do all highway driving, and even get away with going 7500 miles. All of my driving is around my local city, I use semisynthetic and my change interval is 2800 miles.
I hope you can suggest me the best to do. I just bought a new 2024 Rav4 XLE made in Canada three months ago. I live in Mexico City. Well, the manual says that the engine oil that comes from factory is a 0w20, but at the toyota dealer they put a decal in the engine compartment that says that the correct oil for that vehicle is 5W30, and all the dealers in Mexico only sell this kind of oil, 5W30. My question is, is there any problem if I use that oil? I have to take the car for service at the dealer every 6 months or 10,000 kilometers to keep the warranty alive and they only apply that kind of oil. Today I asked the parts manager if they have any other oil and he told me that not, he told me that all the toyota cars sold in Mexico are homologated to use the 5W30 oil. What do you think about all this situations?
I lived in Mexico and had a Toyota Yaris I had serviced at Toyota. I never paid any attention what weight oil they used but it was synthetic. I'm sure Toyota Mexico knows what they are doing. They probably use the 5W30 because of the altitude or harsher environment (heat), but it must be a good reason. Most of Mexico doesn't get that cold so the thinner oil is not needed and a little thicker oil is better.
Now 0w8
Toyota uses Mobil 1
th-cam.com/video/IRwvfvwWbYE/w-d-xo.html
Toyotas are loud as hell that oil is to thin
My Toyota has one of if not the quietest engine that I ever had in a car. 47 years driving and and the 12 cars I have had. It's a 2019 CHR with a 2 litre 4 cylinder that runs whisper quiet. Uses 0w20 oil.
Except Mobil one 1 is not a full synthetic
Ass-a-e? Seriously?
Never heard of Toyota Ass oil
JASO JIS
Somewhat inaccurate, newer toyotas most use 0w16 and is not to be substatuted .
Hand book says you can use 0w 20 but must change back to 0w 16 next oil change
@@davewebster1627 I've heard on YT of people using thicker without any issues, and in countries with less EPA stuff the owners manual apparently allows for the thicker oil.
So the MUST USE 0W16 might be due to an emissions target 🤔🤷♂
But unless you can afford a new engine... stick with what the owners manual in your country says....