The coolest thing for me isn't that 1000w Turbo mode. I don't need more Power as a Bosch Cx Gen 4 (its power is easily enough for me) But the Coolest thing is it looks like a Light-Emtb but with a Full Power Motor and a Large Battery🎉
@@BorisHatter-cz4bbnah, Rob's amflow weighs 21kg without pedals but with coil shock, fox 38 and DH tyres, and pedals are like 350g, so with base spec 36/float x and DD tyres + pedals you'd be around 20.8kg I'd guess
@@TheSanjurok it is only 504 watt for whole big battery. It's not much for modern li-jons. Example Parkside in cheap batteries offer 12a charging speed for 5 cells x 4000mah- it's not much as in dji is I guess -40? cellls
I think after this, Pinion and the new motor from ZF, the guys from Bosch, Shimano and Brose are sweating in the corner. Love it, since Bosch is such a closed system.
Honestly this is great. Push the industry forward, and make established brands shake in their boots. Im an SL light assist MTB guy. Personally I don’t care about full power, and I don’t care about the range as much. I look for the best descending bike period and if it happens to have the motor I want, great. That’s obviously not realistic for many people. I just want reliability, descending capability, and lightweight e-bikes. And what a world it would be if they didn’t cost so dang much money.
Nicolai is an incredible looking ride, and I am looking forward to Rob rides video on the one he purchased, but I have to say at 26kg or more it's heavy even by emtb standards going forward and the pinion drive I would imagine is still evolving, never riden one tho but Reports suggest it has flaws. This amflow is incredible...if inly it had more travel, I'd definitely be on it.
AstonMTB has a four part review of the Nicolai on his TH-cam channel, great bike but no comparison to this, far too heavy, very noisy and close to £10k.
The one fact you need to clarify is that statement of a Shimano 900wh battery, I think you've got that muddled up with your bike sponsors, Canyon, battery.
How does DJI just come out of left field and one-up not only the traditional ebike manufacturers, but even the startups? Amazing. I'm excited for some REAL competition to get going. If there's one thing DJI knows its sensors, software, and action sports. So excited to see where this goes.
Love this DJI and interface, all the modes, assist etc, nicely laid out. I love eMountain Bikes and the more people on em the better. Almost 2yrs now (since I bought me a Merida eOne-Sixty 700) this 54yr old Aussie with bung knees can get out and about exercising g and taking in nature… Heysen Trail, Adelaide hills at my doorstep. Love choosing lines on tekky inclines, down as well. It never gets tired. Amflow tempting tho reckon I gott 18 months at least on my existing ride. Almost got a Gen3 Turbo Levo, bottom model was still more expensive. Price still toooo high.
Fact is more motor power means faster battery depletion. We are interested to know how efficient it is, and what is the weight limit? Light bikes like this are for guys under 100kg
@@FuturePerfectContinuousThey offer a 2 year warranty, so it will be interesting to see how they last . I'm thinking by the time this drive system comes out on a bike I want we will know.
@@djm8027 2 years and new engine? Possibly. Shimano has half torque but their engines do not survive much- especially bearings. Time will tell. Maybe will be some mod- example like US bearings to Brose which are as I heard much better than original Germany
@@pawelodz8050 I've got 20000 k on my 21 turbo levo no issues, but no delibrate wet riding probably helps and always using the gears to keep it spinning and cooler .
It’s the max power and torque that separate DJI from competition. Weight -wise it’s more like evolution and not revolution: DJI motor (105 Nm) 2.5 kg, EP801 (max 85 Nm): 2.7 kg. Same kind of evolution in battery weight. The low weight of the complete bike is due to Amflow making extremely light frame and using carbon rims etc gaining maximum impact in the media with ”next level” power/weight ratio. This has impact on the bike price. At least I don’t need more power. Lower cost for a lighter bike with 60-85 Nm assist would be welcome
I wish they made the battery easily removable! would love to do all day rides with a spare battery!! waiting to see any videos or information on how this can be done!
Haha, Steve was right! The competition is shaking in their boots! This bike redefines e-bikes and a lot of people in the bike industry suddenly have a lot of inventory that is simply outdated. I have watched Steve ride now for several years on this channel and his top move to show the bikes off is an uphill wheelie as he hits a switchback. Notice how he is riding at least twice as far as other videos. He looks like a kid again! In the past that move would suck quite a bit of energy out of him on other e-bikes. On this bike even if the front hits the ground he is right back up again charging the mountain. The bike is obviously brilliant. If DJI offers a strong competitive warranty the bikes will sell fast. I have a specialized and my motor has been replaced, the warranty made all the difference and my opinion of them is still high even with a failed motor for a week.
Great to see DJI getting in on the ebike market, especially with thier other high quality products which I have a few of, with Amflow seems to be a winning combination of great motor and battery that matches the high spec bike components, the climbs looked effortless. A real leap forward in ebike tech thanks for sharing Steve and Embn! 😁
Thank you Steve for the short meet and greet in Finale Ligure🇮🇹 It was a big pleasure and honour for me🙏🏻 I love your professional tests and the many informations about the e-bikes. The Amflow sounds absolutely insane and Iam really in love with this powerful bike❤ Cheers Xtina
As annoying as it can occasionally be on road or real smooth flats, i'm amazed how little i care about the cutoff on my bosch bike... Downhill speed is all gravity, and uphill 15mph is pretty dam quick.
Paid Promotion? If so you need to state it! Not doubting the performance of this motor but this is an AD. The motor and system is totally commercially un-proven. This is a showcase not a test. Thrash a year on it and do another video :)
Haha, Steve was right! The competition is shaking in their boots! This bike redefines e-bikes and a lot of people in the bike industry suddenly have a lot of inventory that is simply outdated.
Hopefully by the time this drive system is available on some other brands with more capable specs we will see how they last in the wet and wild testing grounds .
Anyone that buys a similar weighted bike to this must have some serious brand loyalty. This thing looks amazing absolute weapon, definitely the only EMTB I'd consider buying right now.
what a ludicrously overblown paid ad for a product, I lasted just over 2min of this nonsense. Zero credibility on this channel these days, just ad after ad for overpriced bikes.
This bike is awesome, and I’m going get one, but this exists already. Everyone forgets or doesn’t know about the giant trance x advanced elite. Same setup only it’s a 400wh battery. But has a 250wh range extender option. Lightweight high powered rocket.
Looks fantastic, but having to remove the motor to remove the battery is a deal breaker to me, it makes all of the amazing multi battery mountain adventures seen on embn not viable.
"This bike has reshuffled the cards on the market, and I fear (sweet worries) that no one will be able to match it for a long time. Top-notch technology, full performance, and its weight are an advantage that will be hard to surpass."
FINALLY! Been waiting for your vid on this to drop. Looks amazing. Thoughts on timeline for U.S. riders to be able to purchase? Also, I've noticed not just here but one several other ebike vids, why is no one mentioning it has the amazing Sram AXS Eagle Transmission drivetrain?! This was huge news aew months ago, and IMO another big selling point for any eMTB so equipped, especially one with this much chain splitting power...but now it's like everyone is afraid to even mention it's existence on any ebike review??
Nice! But don't forget the ZF90 is smaller and probably ready for the next level compact gearbox integration as they all ready make them for motos. If so, 90Nm (which is fine for most non racers) with a motorgearbox sub 20 km is the next step forward. 🤟
Glad to see more e-bike motor competition. Although, I am not sure how I feel about e-bikes developing more and more power as I fail to see the reason, at least for myself. My Yeti 160E at 85nm is insane overkill for me (me at 220lbs kitted up), I spend 90% of my time in a slightly boosted eco mode at just over 40nm saving trail mode (which I reduced to 65nm) for short super steep sections and I never feel the need to use boost. It feels so artificial as the power gets higher and not how I personally want to mountain bike. If I want something with mohr power, there are real dirt bikes for that. But hopefully this all leads to much lighter, more efficient systems that rival the power of what is on my 160E and crush it on range.
Clearly Steve’s gushing review tells you all you need to know about how far the goalposts have been moved. Only question I can think of is reliability and service centres for warranty and upkeep. Not putting it down it’s a super impressive bike and motor with the best integration and thought gone into the controls of any ebike on the market. Great job DJI !!
DJI are known for amazing service and warranty, so I wouldn't worry about that. I'm more concerned with how good the frame is as it's a new brand and I've only seen reviewers post about it. Will be good to see how it handles in more extreme scenarios and riding spots.
TOP TOP TOP ❤❤❤❤nice product - we as the DREAMBIKE team are in Race EMTB branch from 2014/5 and from the first wiev we are sure that this is new Era of EMTB with this bike - more proffesional setting new industrial measures. Thanks ! But we need also the Drone instaled on this bike 😂😂😂❤❤❤!!!
The power is beyond necessary and makes ebike haters worry about speed a valid point. The speed and power has to be capped across the board or class1 ebikes will be no different than throttle powered ebikes.
These are the problems for me: In the end of 2018 (6 years !!) came the Levo S-works with 90nm motor, 700wh battery, 20kg in tubeless setup, so no quantum leap for me with the Amflow. I never want to use the turbo mode when i ride in the hills, because it draws the battery very fast, so i go up slow in eco or trail mode, i do not want to wheelie up the hill. It's like with 700bhp electric cars, you have fun once or twice with the acceleration, but for daily driving you are using like 30-50bhp... Back to the weight: it has carbon rims, EXO and EXO+ tires and other lightweight parts. For a bike the only different to other ebikes are the motor-battery-frame. You can not change these things. And these are lighter like 1-2 kilos to other carbon high power bike, so not that much. But i really like the real fast charger.
You are lying 😅 The 2018 Levo S-Works had 504Wh battery and 21.05 kg. The current model has 700Wh battery and 22.5kg. And you are missing a lot of details on the DJI which are a big deal.
@@dit4963 I wrote in the end of 2018, that was the Levo Gen2. You are writing about the Gen1 and Gen3 Levo. Yes it is a very good overall package, but apart from the very fast charge, i can not see any groundbreaking thing.
@@neszoljalbe Still I find no evidence for getting it to 20kg. 21kg more realistic. Regarding other features: GPS & LTE (and all features coming with that), USB-C PD65W power output, very silent motor up & down, great display, integration and ergonomics... This might seem small things, and mindblowing they are not already on every system... Overall this system is 3-4 years ahead of anything currently on the market. In a high competitive market, that is "groundbreaking" (I hate such terms, but...)
@@dit4963 I am not against this bike/system, but in this "test" it is said that 'very much a revolutionary product'. Yes it is a bit lighter, a bit more powerful, a bit larger display, gps/lte (has the Bosch Connectmodule too). For me the Pinion MGU is more of a revolution with all its flaws (more weight, noisy). This video hipes the bike too much. In other videos it is said, that the motor can rattle, and in high power mode it has whining noise (but not as much as Bosch or Shimano). And the real weight in size L with 800wh battery is 20,6 kg. But the biggest question is the warranty support. Lets face it, everything can break down and will break down.
If being fastest up the hill was so important, then we'd all currently be riding Rocky Mountain ebikes. Yet RM isn't a particularly big player. So even though DJI has a well-earned reputation, I think it's going to take some considerable time for their motor to become established - unless perhaps they can partner with an established bike brand.
I am riding a RM, it’s great… But honestly, most emtb’s are amazing these days. Given an hour or so to set any bike up for my preferences I think I’d enjoy any bike just as much.
To those claiming this is an ad... Well, creating content isn't free. Like other channels, EMBN needs revenue, and manufacturers need visibility and communication. It's clear to me that EMBN has contracts (partnerships, call them what you will) with various manufacturers. I assume EMBN has negotiated annual agreements with DJI (and other manufacturers). This is a win-win for both. There must be a plan with a precise schedule and a set number of videos, which DJI compensates financially. In return, EMBN benefits from information, trips, and bike tests from DJI, which form the basis for producing the videos. These videos then attract viewers, securing the business. Is the content objective, fair, and honest? I believe it is. EMBN needs to build trust with viewers, and providing inaccurate information would be destructive. Now, as always, it's all about communication. You highlight the good points and not the others. So, there will be more videos about this DJI bike at the most beneficial timing for DJI. This isn't bad at all, and I'm curious to watch them.
Sounds good from the review. I see the light weight eMTB almost merging with full size with this bike. The problem is since its announcement we still don't know the price point - will this be something that only those with deep pockets can afford? will the boost mode be neutered in some markets (like here in Australia where we seem not to be trusted with out own common sense)
The Amflow PL Carbon Pro comes in at a jaw-dropping £8,999/ AU$13,999 (approx. $11,742), while the base model, the Amflow PL Carbon, will set you back £6,999/ AU$9,399 (approx. $9,134)
@@JorenMathews no not really, because your facing the wrong way, when it goes wrong. You get up to speed quickly and then you have to self arrest to stop, plus my 53 pound e bike is falling with me. Technical e bike climbing is the future, think of it like sport climbing. I would consider roping up. I’m in the USA!!! southwest, Moab baby
No, its not. It's the Winora Haibike Flyon. Its more heavy of course, but you can always ride on 120NM and the 630 battery is changeable. Uphill more weight is not a disadvantage, because on steep terrain, the bike sticks on the ground. Downhill, way more traction. Unfortunately, not longer on the market, but existing on the planet. 😊
Dji did it again! As in the uav business they blew out the rest of the brands, from the toy 'till the pro models. The charger shows it, compare it to the clonky nonsense blocks ( Bosch, eFit), no straight out wires and a well placed conn on the bike. If they get rid of the chain/deraillr, i sell my Rapcon/pinion.
👍How light would this interesting motor be if they make it in a 50Nm version🤔 This is now the most interesting full power Emtb😋 The charge port is Neat, but still in the wrong position, near the most dirty and wet place on the bike😵💫. Yamaha moro have the charge port on the right place😉
""The verdict: if you want lighter weight, long range, more power and a agile trail bike"" Does it makes also coffee while riding? if yes it is an instant buy 🤣🤣
Since most eMTB Boffins say you're buying the motor ecosystem, not necessarily the bike itself, if the DJI motor would be available for a Trek, Canyon, Specialized etc., I'd be more excited. Since that'll never happen, and motors like this are doomed to sit in the bike boutique market, average Joe's like me will never see this. It's a shame. Isn't there another boutique motor ZF(?) something that's even smaller, lighter, and more powerful than this? I think the biggest thing to take away from this video/motor is the weight to power ratio. Like most are saying, a lightweight eMTB with the power of a full-fat eBike motor, that's amazing.
There was a statement that the DJI motor will be available for other brands as well in the future, it's just for the start that they come up with their own model, because they were able to test everything better in their own environment. But I don't know about the timeplan, when this is about going to happen and it will also not be any retrofit solution (mounting points don't fit, neither for the motor, nor the batteries), so you defintely need to buy a new bike in any case
Auto mode sounds interesting, but I'd be interested in the battery life on this (and on lower settings). It looks great fun, but not sure its entirely for me, its verging on a completely different activity.
Wow, such a beautyfull bike, such a great motor ! Steve, you didn't talk about the résistance of the motor. Is it much friction when passing over the limite of the assist ??
It takes a whole 2 seconds to Google that ... "The maximum load capacity is 125 kg, which includes the rider's weight, any additional items being carried, and the weight of equipment mounted onto the frame."
The coolest thing for me isn't that 1000w Turbo mode.
I don't need more Power as a Bosch Cx Gen 4 (its power is easily enough for me)
But the Coolest thing is it looks like a Light-Emtb but with a Full Power Motor and a Large Battery🎉
It’s 22kg with proper tyres and pedals with the 800wh battery
@@BorisHatter-cz4bb and still 4kg less than it's competition equiped that way.
@@BorisHatter-cz4bbnah, Rob's amflow weighs 21kg without pedals but with coil shock, fox 38 and DH tyres, and pedals are like 350g, so with base spec 36/float x and DD tyres + pedals you'd be around 20.8kg I'd guess
for me, the 12A Charger is just mindblowing. Thats the real game changer
How is it a game changer?
Questionable idea, as it makes off grid charging difficult
The battery cells wont like the charge rate they will be stressed if charged from a nearly flat state
@@Tobinhotherealone yeah! I love it! Especially I have 6a Bosch but they do not offer even that (only 4amps in latest generation) anymore.
@@TheSanjurok it is only 504 watt for whole big battery. It's not much for modern li-jons. Example Parkside in cheap batteries offer 12a charging speed for 5 cells x 4000mah- it's not much as in dji is I guess -40? cellls
I think after this, Pinion and the new motor from ZF, the guys from Bosch, Shimano and Brose are sweating in the corner. Love it, since Bosch is such a closed system.
Imagine DJI partners with a competent belt drive OEM 🤯
Damn…. When does the 170mm version drop?
Yes please!
Second that! 180mm even better!
See the Robs Ride custom build video recently?
Honestly this is great. Push the industry forward, and make established brands shake in their boots. Im an SL light assist MTB guy. Personally I don’t care about full power, and I don’t care about the range as much. I look for the best descending bike period and if it happens to have the motor I want, great. That’s obviously not realistic for many people.
I just want reliability, descending capability, and lightweight e-bikes. And what a world it would be if they didn’t cost so dang much money.
If your in the market for a new emtb for me there are now only 2 choices, the Amflow or the pinion Nicolai.
Nicolai is an incredible looking ride, and I am looking forward to Rob rides video on the one he purchased, but I have to say at 26kg or more it's heavy even by emtb standards going forward and the pinion drive I would imagine is still evolving, never riden one tho but Reports suggest it has flaws. This amflow is incredible...if inly it had more travel, I'd definitely be on it.
AstonMTB has a four part review of the Nicolai on his TH-cam channel, great bike but no comparison to this, far too heavy, very noisy and close to £10k.
The one fact you need to clarify is that statement of a Shimano 900wh battery, I think you've got that muddled up with your bike sponsors, Canyon, battery.
Orbea Rise 2025?
Never buy first gen but good that it will push the other manufacturers.
Damn sh*t 🧐 Steve is back on racemode 🏎 next e-enduro champ 🥇🏆 thanks Steve for this video
How does DJI just come out of left field and one-up not only the traditional ebike manufacturers, but even the startups? Amazing. I'm excited for some REAL competition to get going. If there's one thing DJI knows its sensors, software, and action sports. So excited to see where this goes.
That anti roll back feature is a game changer.
... & because it's you Steve & your "no bullshit" thoughts about things I can see you're genuinely impressed :-) !
@@iannorris8891 his impression is probably the same one as Canyon bikes ie he gets paid to say good things ??
Love this DJI and interface, all the modes, assist etc, nicely laid out. I love eMountain Bikes and the more people on em the better. Almost 2yrs now (since I bought me a Merida eOne-Sixty 700) this 54yr old Aussie with bung knees can get out and about exercising g and taking in nature… Heysen Trail, Adelaide hills at my doorstep. Love choosing lines on tekky inclines, down as well. It never gets tired. Amflow tempting tho reckon I gott 18 months at least on my existing ride. Almost got a Gen3 Turbo Levo, bottom model was still more expensive. Price still toooo high.
Fact is more motor power means faster battery depletion. We are interested to know how efficient it is, and what is the weight limit? Light bikes like this are for guys under 100kg
Amflow web claims 125kg weight limit, which is equivalent to levo for example, although it is heavier bike a little ( by 5 lbs or so)
Imagine that motor in a belt drive system on a 170mm enduro weapon. Exciting times for e bikes
Exactly, this one is rather delicate
Love it 😍 Same time wonder how long engine with that small bearings and huge torque will last🤔
1 month 🤣
@@FuturePerfectContinuousThey offer a 2 year warranty, so it will be interesting to see how they last . I'm thinking by the time this drive system comes out on a bike I want we will know.
@@djm8027 2 years and new engine? Possibly. Shimano has half torque but their engines do not survive much- especially bearings. Time will tell. Maybe will be some mod- example like US bearings to Brose which are as I heard much better than original Germany
@@pawelodz8050 I've got 20000 k on my 21 turbo levo no issues, but no delibrate wet riding probably helps and always using the gears to keep it spinning and cooler .
@@djm8027 levo has 90nm. This has 160nm. Big difference
Been waiting for this review.
Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
This channel doesn’t do reviews! It does commercials!
ouch 😂🤣
It’s the max power and torque that separate DJI from competition. Weight -wise it’s more like evolution and not revolution: DJI motor (105 Nm) 2.5 kg, EP801 (max 85 Nm): 2.7 kg. Same kind of evolution in battery weight. The low weight of the complete bike is due to Amflow making extremely light frame and using carbon rims etc gaining maximum impact in the media with ”next level” power/weight ratio. This has impact on the bike price.
At least I don’t need more power. Lower cost for a lighter bike with 60-85 Nm assist would be welcome
I wish they made the battery easily removable! would love to do all day rides with a spare battery!! waiting to see any videos or information on how this can be done!
Haha, Steve was right! The competition is shaking in their boots! This bike redefines e-bikes and a lot of people in the bike industry suddenly have a lot of inventory that is simply outdated.
I have watched Steve ride now for several years on this channel and his top move to show the bikes off is an uphill wheelie as he hits a switchback. Notice how he is riding at least twice as far as other videos. He looks like a kid again! In the past that move would suck quite a bit of energy out of him on other e-bikes. On this bike even if the front hits the ground he is right back up again charging the mountain. The bike is obviously brilliant. If DJI offers a strong competitive warranty the bikes will sell fast. I have a specialized and my motor has been replaced, the warranty made all the difference and my opinion of them is still high even with a failed motor for a week.
Great to see DJI getting in on the ebike market, especially with thier other high quality products which I have a few of, with Amflow seems to be a winning combination of great motor and battery that matches the high spec bike components, the climbs looked effortless. A real leap forward in ebike tech thanks for sharing Steve and Embn! 😁
Thank you Steve for the short meet and greet in Finale Ligure🇮🇹
It was a big pleasure and honour for me🙏🏻
I love your professional tests and the many informations about the e-bikes.
The Amflow sounds absolutely insane and Iam really in love with this powerful bike❤ Cheers Xtina
So in the UK, you can get to the cut off in two cranks instead of three. The elephant in the room never goes away.
hopefully easy to unlock the speed limit lol
As annoying as it can occasionally be on road or real smooth flats, i'm amazed how little i care about the cutoff on my bosch bike... Downhill speed is all gravity, and uphill 15mph is pretty dam quick.
Depending on the trails you ride ,I find the extra power useful for bigger gaps at speed or out of corners, 25 kph is too slow at my trails anyways.
@@djm8027 i can't lie, i'd still like it to be higher - if for nothing other than bits on road.
@@yyams false
Paid Promotion? If so you need to state it! Not doubting the performance of this motor but this is an AD. The motor and system is totally commercially un-proven. This is a showcase not a test. Thrash a year on it and do another video :)
This.
True. After my experience with EP 8, I will never buy a bike with a new motor on the market
Haha, Steve was right! The competition is shaking in their boots! This bike redefines e-bikes and a lot of people in the bike industry suddenly have a lot of inventory that is simply outdated.
Exactly! Bump bump to this comment! DJI needs to move to something else incase all their drones get banned here in the US.
Bosch still takes my money. Anything more and i will buy an electric motorcycle.
Shows how much big brand bikes been dragging their feet and charging top dollar for it
Wow this is impressive . I’ll see how reliability checks out and then hopefully buy in a couple of years :)
Solid spec and price for the entry level model in Australia compared to the established brands in the market.
So glad I held off from buying an ebike for a year or two. The pace of development in this field is insane!
Are you going to finally commit to the Amflow?
@@embn maybe, once I've paid off my Transition Spur 😂
Already got my order in 💪🏻
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@@siriosstar4789 dose not compute system overload 👾👾
I think by the time they get one in the usa other companies will catch up to it. Looks pretty sweet.
Hopefully by the time this drive system is available on some other brands with more capable specs we will see how they last in the wet and wild testing grounds .
Awesome bike, I bet it has an awesome price tag too.
Their top model will probably cost the same as an expensive road bike…
Game changer - awesome to see.
Bloody hell Steve, your style is class 👌 such a show stopper. I love it.
Anyone that buys a similar weighted bike to this must have some serious brand loyalty. This thing looks amazing absolute weapon, definitely the only EMTB I'd consider buying right now.
what a ludicrously overblown paid ad for a product, I lasted just over 2min of this nonsense. Zero credibility on this channel these days, just ad after ad for overpriced bikes.
You know things are about to get serious when Steve starts the video off by carrying a stick.
Hell Yeah Brother
If this bike holds up long-term, I think we have a new king in the market!
Steve, what about a disclaimer that you have spent a lot of time working with AMFlow on this bike 🙄
This bike is awesome, and I’m going get one, but this exists already. Everyone forgets or doesn’t know about the giant trance x advanced elite. Same setup only it’s a 400wh battery. But has a 250wh range extender option. Lightweight high powered rocket.
The issue is that its quite delicate. I would like to see the enduro version
This bike is the way of the future for sure. Imagine it with more suspension and an MGU setup as well.
I have watched 3 reviews and no one points out 2 important things. How water proof is the system? where is the bash guard?
Is there any rattle from the motor on the downhills? Any rattle at all? Cracking video as usual, cheers!
Check out Sam's bikes review for a noise test
Looks fantastic, but having to remove the motor to remove the battery is a deal breaker to me, it makes all of the amazing multi battery mountain adventures seen on embn not viable.
"This bike has reshuffled the cards on the market, and I fear (sweet worries) that no one will be able to match it for a long time. Top-notch technology, full performance, and its weight are an advantage that will be hard to surpass."
Steve ,I want one now 🤘
Do we know the ip rating of motor
If they make an alu version I'm sold
FINALLY! Been waiting for your vid on this to drop. Looks amazing.
Thoughts on timeline for U.S. riders to be able to purchase?
Also, I've noticed not just here but one several other ebike vids, why is no one mentioning it has the amazing Sram AXS Eagle Transmission drivetrain?! This was huge news aew months ago, and IMO another big selling point for any eMTB so equipped, especially one with this much chain splitting power...but now it's like everyone is afraid to even mention it's existence on any ebike review??
They should have used Linkglide. The only thing better would be a gear box and a belt.
This is what the e bike fitted is! Light weight full power and 700w+battery! I may have to get one!
Nice! But don't forget the ZF90 is smaller and probably ready for the next level compact gearbox integration as they all ready make them for motos. If so, 90Nm (which is fine for most non racers) with a motorgearbox sub 20 km is the next step forward. 🤟
Glad to see more e-bike motor competition. Although, I am not sure how I feel about e-bikes developing more and more power as I fail to see the reason, at least for myself. My Yeti 160E at 85nm is insane overkill for me (me at 220lbs kitted up), I spend 90% of my time in a slightly boosted eco mode at just over 40nm saving trail mode (which I reduced to 65nm) for short super steep sections and I never feel the need to use boost. It feels so artificial as the power gets higher and not how I personally want to mountain bike. If I want something with mohr power, there are real dirt bikes for that. But hopefully this all leads to much lighter, more efficient systems that rival the power of what is on my 160E and crush it on range.
To drive the point through to Amflow if they are monitoring this, an enduro with more travel is needed.
I remember the days where EMBN actually gave impartial reviews, now it's just PAID FOR PROMO ADS for brands that pay!
U cant wait for Trek using dji motor. I would love to have Trek slash with the power of this motor.
Is this a paid promotion?
Clearly Steve’s gushing review tells you all you need to know about how far the goalposts have been moved. Only question I can think of is reliability and service centres for warranty and upkeep. Not putting it down it’s a super impressive bike and motor with the best integration and thought gone into the controls of any ebike on the market. Great job DJI !!
DJI are known for amazing service and warranty, so I wouldn't worry about that. I'm more concerned with how good the frame is as it's a new brand and I've only seen reviewers post about it. Will be good to see how it handles in more extreme scenarios and riding spots.
@@ChrisWilmshurst True as this is it’s still unchanged territory for an emtb. The service network is for drones and cameras. An EMtb is different
If you look on the website and click test ride you.can see that a fair few bricks and mortar bike shops are onboard.already.
Dyson Vacuum Cleaner company should get into this e-bike segment 🎉
No removable battery? No deal…..frozen weather riders require this feature
I’ve just been in the garage & my Turbo Levo is weeping 😢 The amount of torque tho will have the cassette & chain weeping too on this Amflow.
The weight for a full power bike is the stand out!
It has fox 36 lol
The fox 36 is a great for for trial use 👍
Got this one on my watchlist, really hot stuff
Have you got a spare 12k then ?
Is that how much they are ? ..looks like the wife’s car going on ebey
@@robpel1 £5,999 to £8,999 UK prices and about £500 cheaper in EU
TOP TOP TOP ❤❤❤❤nice product - we as the DREAMBIKE team are in Race EMTB branch from 2014/5 and from the first wiev we are sure that this is new Era of EMTB with this bike - more proffesional setting new industrial measures. Thanks !
But we need also the Drone instaled on this bike 😂😂😂❤❤❤!!!
Looks awesome. Seriously.
Giving me Lahar M9 vibes, I want.
If i had the cash id be ordering one
The power is beyond necessary and makes ebike haters worry about speed a valid point. The speed and power has to be capped across the board or class1 ebikes will be no different than throttle powered ebikes.
Great vid! Might have missed it but can you ride through the limiter like a Ride60 or is it more like an EP8?
@@emotioneering That’s what I want to know also. No good accelerating to 25 kmh or 32 kmh in record time if the bike then pedals like you are in tar.
These are the problems for me: In the end of 2018 (6 years !!) came the Levo S-works with 90nm motor, 700wh battery, 20kg in tubeless setup, so no quantum leap for me with the Amflow. I never want to use the turbo mode when i ride in the hills, because it draws the battery very fast, so i go up slow in eco or trail mode, i do not want to wheelie up the hill. It's like with 700bhp electric cars, you have fun once or twice with the acceleration, but for daily driving you are using like 30-50bhp... Back to the weight: it has carbon rims, EXO and EXO+ tires and other lightweight parts. For a bike the only different to other ebikes are the motor-battery-frame. You can not change these things. And these are lighter like 1-2 kilos to other carbon high power bike, so not that much. But i really like the real fast charger.
You are lying 😅 The 2018 Levo S-Works had 504Wh battery and 21.05 kg. The current model has 700Wh battery and 22.5kg. And you are missing a lot of details on the DJI which are a big deal.
@@dit4963 I wrote in the end of 2018, that was the Levo Gen2. You are writing about the Gen1 and Gen3 Levo. Yes it is a very good overall package, but apart from the very fast charge, i can not see any groundbreaking thing.
@@neszoljalbe Still I find no evidence for getting it to 20kg. 21kg more realistic. Regarding other features: GPS & LTE (and all features coming with that), USB-C PD65W power output, very silent motor up & down, great display, integration and ergonomics... This might seem small things, and mindblowing they are not already on every system... Overall this system is 3-4 years ahead of anything currently on the market. In a high competitive market, that is "groundbreaking" (I hate such terms, but...)
@@neszoljalbe Biggest waiting points for me are: reliability, waterproofness (I find no IP rating...) and a proper enduro bike (>170mm, 63° HA...)
@@dit4963 I am not against this bike/system, but in this "test" it is said that 'very much a revolutionary product'. Yes it is a bit lighter, a bit more powerful, a bit larger display, gps/lte (has the Bosch Connectmodule too). For me the Pinion MGU is more of a revolution with all its flaws (more weight, noisy). This video hipes the bike too much. In other videos it is said, that the motor can rattle, and in high power mode it has whining noise (but not as much as Bosch or Shimano). And the real weight in size L with 800wh battery is 20,6 kg. But the biggest question is the warranty support. Lets face it, everything can break down and will break down.
If being fastest up the hill was so important, then we'd all currently be riding Rocky Mountain ebikes. Yet RM isn't a particularly big player. So even though DJI has a well-earned reputation, I think it's going to take some considerable time for their motor to become established - unless perhaps they can partner with an established bike brand.
I am riding a RM, it’s great… But honestly, most emtb’s are amazing these days. Given an hour or so to set any bike up for my preferences I think I’d enjoy any bike just as much.
To those claiming this is an ad... Well, creating content isn't free. Like other channels, EMBN needs revenue, and manufacturers need visibility and communication. It's clear to me that EMBN has contracts (partnerships, call them what you will) with various manufacturers. I assume EMBN has negotiated annual agreements with DJI (and other manufacturers). This is a win-win for both. There must be a plan with a precise schedule and a set number of videos, which DJI compensates financially. In return, EMBN benefits from information, trips, and bike tests from DJI, which form the basis for producing the videos. These videos then attract viewers, securing the business. Is the content objective, fair, and honest? I believe it is. EMBN needs to build trust with viewers, and providing inaccurate information would be destructive. Now, as always, it's all about communication. You highlight the good points and not the others. So, there will be more videos about this DJI bike at the most beneficial timing for DJI. This isn't bad at all, and I'm curious to watch them.
Very cool bike with impressive performance. But you have to think all that power must put a lot of stress on the motor. How long would it last?
Man... definitely looks cool. Curious to find out about US availability and pricing.
Sounds good from the review. I see the light weight eMTB almost merging with full size with this bike. The problem is since its announcement we still don't know the price point - will this be something that only those with deep pockets can afford? will the boost mode be neutered in some markets (like here in Australia where we seem not to be trusted with out own common sense)
The Amflow PL Carbon Pro comes in at a jaw-dropping £8,999/ AU$13,999 (approx. $11,742), while the base model, the Amflow PL Carbon, will set you back £6,999/ AU$9,399 (approx. $9,134)
It's actually £5999 for the base in the UK
im keeping an eye on the zf drive unite if im honest it really takes my biscuit lol
Definitely a new sport and dangerous. I fell on a climb and rolled all the way to the bottom.
It's safer than going downhill. The velocity is just lower.
@@JorenMathews no not really, because your facing the wrong way, when it goes wrong. You get up to speed quickly and then you have to self arrest to stop, plus my 53 pound e bike is falling with me.
Technical e bike climbing is the future, think of it like sport climbing. I would consider roping up.
I’m in the USA!!! southwest, Moab baby
No, its not. It's the Winora Haibike Flyon. Its more heavy of course, but you can always ride on 120NM and the 630 battery is changeable. Uphill more weight is not a disadvantage, because on steep terrain, the bike sticks on the ground. Downhill, way more traction. Unfortunately, not longer on the market, but existing on the planet. 😊
Larger capacity but smaller, lighter batteries, that can last longer than me is what I want, Neil's at Coed y Brenin, BTW, you,r all welcome.
Dji did it again! As in the uav business they blew out the rest of the brands, from the toy 'till the pro models.
The charger shows it, compare it to the clonky nonsense blocks ( Bosch, eFit), no straight out wires and a well placed conn on the bike.
If they get rid of the chain/deraillr, i sell my Rapcon/pinion.
Will probably never make it to the US. Even if it did, there’s no one to service it. Still pretty cool.
👍How light would this interesting motor be if they make it in a 50Nm version🤔
This is now the most interesting full power Emtb😋
The charge port is Neat, but still in the wrong position, near the most dirty and wet place on the bike😵💫. Yamaha moro have the charge port on the right place😉
What about service support set up? All motors need to be replaced regardless of brand in the UK
A Proper Weapon.....!😎
""The verdict: if you want lighter weight, long range, more power and a agile trail bike""
Does it makes also coffee while riding? if yes it is an instant buy 🤣🤣
Since most eMTB Boffins say you're buying the motor ecosystem, not necessarily the bike itself, if the DJI motor would be available for a Trek, Canyon, Specialized etc., I'd be more excited. Since that'll never happen, and motors like this are doomed to sit in the bike boutique market, average Joe's like me will never see this. It's a shame. Isn't there another boutique motor ZF(?) something that's even smaller, lighter, and more powerful than this? I think the biggest thing to take away from this video/motor is the weight to power ratio. Like most are saying, a lightweight eMTB with the power of a full-fat eBike motor, that's amazing.
There was a statement that the DJI motor will be available for other brands as well in the future, it's just for the start that they come up with their own model, because they were able to test everything better in their own environment. But I don't know about the timeplan, when this is about going to happen and it will also not be any retrofit solution (mounting points don't fit, neither for the motor, nor the batteries), so you defintely need to buy a new bike in any case
Brilliant just wow 👍
With all this power, do they provide a monthly subscription for chains and cassettes?
There's been a disturbance in the force
Auto mode sounds interesting, but I'd be interested in the battery life on this (and on lower settings). It looks great fun, but not sure its entirely for me, its verging on a completely different activity.
How is the ground clearance and bash plate ?
Just cool
Wow, such a beautyfull bike, such a great motor !
Steve, you didn't talk about the résistance of the motor. Is it much friction when passing over the limite of the assist ??
Are any other brands going to use the DJI motor, or is it an AmFlow exclusive?
Great Bike. But what is the max systemweight of this bike? I´m on the heavier side and need a bike with a liitle bit more capacity--- ;-)
This is why I have a Turbo Levo because I’m slightly hefty 😂
It takes a whole 2 seconds to Google that ... "The maximum load capacity is 125 kg, which includes the rider's weight, any additional items being carried, and the weight of equipment mounted onto the frame."
What’s the estimated retail, I would assume 95% of us can only dream about owning something as outstanding as this 😳
Beside this avinox firmware, you should show us the rest of the competition how do they looks as well
That motor sounded really loud in the video.
Get rid of the carbon frame and bring the price down. 6k is still far too expensive
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