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I said last post Flora gave something away. In episode 4 in the kitchen Flora says "what if you're dead and don't know it and everyone still sees you.." they pan quickly to Hannah!
@@toriboy25 how though? her argument with ghost peter and possessed Miles pushing her down the well happened well before Dani arrived and it would have happened regardless of her getting out of the car or not. Dani's arrival just enabled Hannah's ghost-self to seamlessly continue on as if nothing had happened aka denial of her own death.
I think a lot of why the Oak wasn't getting jumpscared in Hannah's episode was because of how confusing it is, he was too focused on figuring out what the heck was going on the scares didn't phase him 😂
When the kids fall asleep in the lounge room during their sleepover a few eps ago, as they’re walking the kids to their room, Miles says to Hannah “I had a dream that I hurt you” and Hannah says “you could never hurt me” because he obviously didn’t hurt Hannah but Peter did through him and he doesn’t remember it because he was “tucked away” as Flora calls it
@@HannahAdamsSister I'm confused. It was shown in the episode that she's been dead this whole time. The episode they just watched, reacted to, edited and uploaded?
@@lunacouer if you watch their reactions, they speak about not knowing what is real and what isn’t. I think that’s why it would be a spoiler but they already finished the series and looks like have started Midnight Mass so wasn’t a spoiler after all.
@@HannahAdamsSister -Well, not a spoiler at all, it was made clear in the episode, that Hannah was dead the whole time, it just took them quite a bit to realize it, which was funny to watch. Lol
Everyone sees Hannah although she is dead because she herself does not know it yet, or more like she is in denial and refuses to accept her demise.. so she is just there hanging in a fine thread between the living and the dead.
episode 5 is such an incredible piece of art. hannah's story is so beautiful and tragic, watching it all unfold is absolutely heartbreaking. realizing she's a ghost and she's stuck in a memory loop.... it just hits so hard. you wanna root for her so bad.
Remember what Flora said at dinner to Owen? How when her parents died she felt like maybe she'd died and nobody knew because they could all still see and hear her? Hits a bit different after Hannah's episode.
@@ct6852 Probably a combination of past experience with the adults brushing things off as their imaginations (like the mom and uncle with little Flora) or otherwise not really listening to them, wanting to protect the other members of the house from the Lady in the Lake, and Peter telling them not to. I imagine that by the time they were old enough to realize that they were seeing ghosts they'd had a fair amount of the adults not taking them seriously and stopped telling tales, then they watched Peter get ganked and figured that if the adults don't believe them about the supernatural telling them might just make the adults actively step into her path to prove she's not real. And I would bet money Peter cautioned them against telling anyone about him and Rebecca because nothing about that scenario would break well for his plan.
@@JaakuSan Yeah that sounds right. Those kids kind of living in an active war zone between Peter and the Lady of the Lake. Like two killer sharks in the house. Can see why she'd want to believe everything was 'splendid'. Because it definitely was not.
"When Miles is not Miles" is so obvious and concerning before you even know that he's Peta but in episode 3 when Flora meets Miss Jessel she immediately starts imitating her "its perfectly splendid" so if at any time during the series where Miss Jessel takes over Flora, you wouldnt even notice because she was already mirroring her anyway. Its such a brilliant series.
You know the story writing is so good when they show you what happens and you still don't believe it, like Diamond Dave convincing himself Hannah isn't dead when we clearly see her snap her neck down the well😂😂 you are in denial as much as Hannah is 😁😁
Like Peter did not remember dying neither did Hannah, but Peter saw his body and found out he was dead, Hannah never did. She didn't know she was dead, she had to tell herself in her minds and dreams.
I hate horror movies, but I really love the story‘s they tell. I‘m too scared to watch them by myself and you guy’s reactions are the only way I‘m able to experience those amazing stories. Apparently, all I needed was three buff men watching alongside me. So, thanks a lot guys, I owe you!❤️
Hannah’s episode absolutely crushed me. I’m already an emotional person and the two main things that get me are unwavering love and tragedy happening to innocent people, so her suffering this way in a constant loop for however long she decides to remain in denial of her fate, while she’s forced to reconcile with the fact that she can’t have a future with the man she loves???? I had to stop watching for a few days because… it’s just so unfair… it’s so heartbreaking and she was just such a good person through and through… she deserved better…
Episode 5: Hanna says to Miles "do you want to die a terrible, choking death" and he/Peter scoffs at her. Episode 6: the whole story of the brothers is so incredibly intense. When Dominic tells Henry off and banishes him - pure gold. Mathew Holness absolutely explodes off the screen in his two big scenes. Henry inherited everything when they died but maintains his banishment - out of guilt/loyalty(?).
One of my favourite things about Bly Manor and Hill House is how the ghosts seem to exist outside time, like whichever location they're bound to they just flit between the past/present/future at random. In Hill House it was more prominent because the house itself seemed to exist in a vacuum where time was irrelevant, but it was nice to see that element brought back a bit with Hannah's pov (also the metaphor for dementia adds that extra layer of tragedy to her story)
Hanna's episode might be the single best episode Flanagan has ever done, in my opinion. Hanna is such a likeable character and to find out she is dead is such a heart breaking moment. I did NOT pick up the clues like you guys did on my first watch! T'Nia Miller is perfect for this role.
I love how you picked up very early on on Hannah never eating or drinking and theorized (rightly so) she was a ghost, BUT when it's confirmed by her literally falling down the well and breaking her neck, you're like "huh now I'm not sure." I was also waiting for you to realize the lady in the lake wasn't Rebecca! I'm still not quite sure how that misunderstanding came to be, maybe because Hannah said she drowned before we even got to see what she looked like? I remember being confused when you said the lady in the lake was Rebecca.
Love you guy’s, but man you were giving me such anxiety with all your wild guesses and wrong scenarios (ha,Ha) never yelled at my phone more, but great watching as usual. You’re going to absolutely love the last couple of episodes, everything ties together perfectly.
Uncle Henry didn't actually know that Flora was his until his brother told him. This is proven because he asks Charlotte later, who says "I'm sorry for not telling you", and since it's just them two in that scene, there's no reason for him to feign ignorance. The reason the shot hangs on him a little longer during Flora's birth is merely because he wishes he could be the one supporting Charlotte through that hard time, but he can't because it would be weird. That's to hint at the affair, not at him knowing he's Flora's dad, because at point, he doesn't. Also, all ghosts at Bly are visible. The "ghosts" that are only visible to specific people, like Dani's ex or Uncle Henry's alter ego, are not visible to others because they're not ghosts, they're merely shadows created by guilt and remorse. Most of the time, the characters don't see the background ghosts because they don't really pay attention. But they are all indeed visible, it's not like a superpower to see them. Otherwise, why would Peter go hide behind a tree when Dani first meets Miles, instead of just standing next to Miles like he was before? Dani doesn't see Peter very often because most of the time, he gets into Miles off screen. She doesn't see Miss Jessel even when she's obviously there, because she's always behind her, and by the time Dani notices Flora is watching over her shoulder and she turns around, Miss Jessel is gone. Hannah isn't fully aware she's dead so she doesn't really hide, but can disappear as Dani has said sometimes it's like she just vanishes. In episode 6, Dani finally sees Miss Jessel because she walked in by surprise and Miss Jessel didn't have the time to hide.
One hundred percent watched this show in two days. Appreciate Quinn's view that the show should be slow-burn pondered and discussed and all that...but yeah I couldn't wait that long. 38 hours, tops. Btw the Hannah actress killed it in 5. I definitely didn't remember everything about the show when you guys started...but remembered her performance pretty. Mostly remembered Hannah, Peter, Lake Lady, Precocious Kids, and Tragic Lesbians. The rest got a little blurry. These Flanagan shows are so good.
Episode 5 is my favorite from Bly Manor, and your reactions to it didn't disappoint. I really liked Hannah's character because there was something off about her, and then the big reveal made it all make sense. The fact that she died, literally minutes before meeting Dani was mind blowing. I'm excited for the next update because episode 8 is tragic and creepy.
I was really enjoying ya’ll speculating on how Peter might die while Hannah was in Rebecca’s bedroom. Like give it about a minute and a half and you’ll know lol. (Not that you could know that). They really red herring that Rebecca is the woman in the lake, but in the Two Faces Pt 1 Rebecca comments about cleaning up muddy footprints which is what gave it away for me. I think the only thing I will say is to remember that there’s a bunch of ghosts in this house and they have opinions about each other. Remember Flora telling Peter that “the others say to stay away from her”
Dani seeing Rebecca for the first time is probably my favourite scene the entire show. The music behind it is just such horror aesthetic and really shapes the way you react to the scene. If it was just background music you probably wouldn’t be too shocked but that big SCREECH really gets you!
Hannahs story is so tragic. It makes me so sad to think of her stuck there wanting to get out but never being able to, especially because she can sense something is wrong. Also, you guys should give yourselves more credit, you're all super intuitive and smart; when I first wayched this episode I seriously thought Hannah had dementia and she was in a care home being taken care of by nurse Owen LOL. I was waaaay off. Didn't realize until the last few minutes that she was a ghost. The 6th episode made me cry too, the scene with Flora being "tucked away" in a memory, realizing it and telling her mom she misses her... So heartbreaking. But ever since I watched it, whenever I remember something where I wish I had done something differently, I try to transport myself and do it like seeing my dad or my cat, both have passed away a long time ago but it can be quite healing. I just love how Flanagan has a way of showing the beauty in tragedy.
I think the creators were definitely giving a dementia theme to Hannah. Flannagan's shows always take real psychological difficulties and traumas and present them as supernatural. Does get confusing when trying to decipher the real sequence of events on the show.
@@ct6852 Thats a really good point that I had never thought of. It makes sense and now that I think of it, Owens mom had dementia, I believe or some form of memory loss, it makes Hannahs conversation with him more meaningful.
Lol Quinn confused with ghosts! Ms. Jessel/Rebecca is not the faceless ghost in the lake, im sure you know this already cause you finished the show but that wasnt supposed to be confusing. And the little faceless kid ghost is most definitely not the same faceless lady from the lake. He is the one who moves the dolls around flora's doll house to tell her where the ghosts are.
I'm honestly surprised y'all didn't take the fact that Hannah fell head first down a stone well, with a loud crack as Hannah is absolutely a ghost. Lol. 🤦♀
I know you guys have finished the show on Patreon so I'll just say flat out that i figured out right away that Hannah was dead. I thought they laid it out pretty simply and I didn't know it confused others. 😆 I guess I didn't realize there was a different way to view it so this is really interesting to see your thoughts! Like that Hannah was only dreaming and not dead. I never thought to view it that way.
Yes Hannah is dead. She died when Miles (Peter) pushed her down the well seconds before Danielle arrives. Ever since, Hannah has been in denial that shes dead. Thats all you need to know for now. Best watch alongs on the tube!
I love Rahul Kohli in episode 5. Well, I love him in everything, but his performance is so understated and powerful. Switching between Hannah's real memory and her mind's rationalizing in frame? So good.
Nice reaction as always guys, I love all of your theories. These two episodes are my favorites, Hannah's story is heartbreaking, and the Uncle's story is just sad, and yes, finding out that Flora is his daughter was a shock. There are many sad stories in the series, including Peter story, and this is what I loved about the series, they give back story for all the characters and ghosts as well. so we could understand their personalities better and where their motivations stem from.
There was a movie release(I think that same year just a little before this series) called the turning, based on the same story. I saw the movie in the theater and left telling my friend I wanted more backstory, I wished it was a tv series not a movie. This hit the nail on the head for me. I texted him when this came out and told him this was exactly what I was talking about. He was familiar with the book and I wasn’t so maybe the movie was better for him because he had more information.
(possible mild spoilers)Really good call out from Oaks about dementia- the maker of the show actually wanted much of it to be a meditation on dementia. he described this version of death/ghost-hood/Hannah’s experience as “Dementia of the Spirit” that’s why they talk so much about Owen’s mother along with Hannah’s experiences.
The reason why the face is blurry of the woman in the lake is, because Flanagan wanted to make the ghosts in this season grow blurry over time, to represent a shadow of who they used to be, reduced down to a memory and the only things surviving within are the core emotions that kept them here, like rage without a face.
every time hannah zones out she's jumping through memories and going into memories where she wasn't there in real life. the crack constantly popping up is her subconscious tying to make her remember that she's dead. hannah is dead! this isn't a spoiler, it was literally shown in episode 5 which is why its called altar of the dead.
@@ct6852 appears so, they’re able to tuck you away in memories and take over your body temporarily - also they’re bound to bly manor, so it may be a bly manor thing.
@@marvelousmia The rules of ghosthood were really confusing in this one. Still wondering if becoming a ghost was some kind of punishment? Or what made them suddenly become visible to everyone? And why they can't leave the property? Or why they get trapped in a chest or a lake and can't get out? So many questions. Lol.
@@ct6852 it’s not that confusing, the gravity of viola traps them there. they’re all able to leave in the end when dani sacrifices herself, also ghost has always been able to allow people to see them when they want and not when they don’t. hannah is always visible and able to interact with them because she’s in denial/unaware that she’s dead.
ngl, because of Owen's mom having alzheimer's or dementia, I was fully believing that Hannah was also going down that road, that she has no feeling for time anymore, where she is, *when* she is. Only when she was pushed down the well I realised that it's not the case.
I love when you upload and I can watch your reaction with my post-dinner tea 😀 👌 I know episode 5 was quite a wild ride but seeing you so confused is kinda funny, sorry 😅 for me it explained so much with Hannah. But also it was quite clear what happened with Peter. We saw Flora repeatedly tell Dani to stay in her room at night, and even though it might have been weird at first, but then in ep 4 (I think?) both her and Miles try to distract Dani so she doesn't come near the Lady from the lake. And it makes sense, as long as you don't meet her, you're fine. But Peter...he stood in the way unfortunately.
Peter was choked to death by the lady in the lake. She has a very strong grip! When you see his arm fall before they enter the forbidden wing, that's when he loses consciousness. But he only fully dies a few seconds later, which is when we see his ghost walk back to the kids.
I spent the whole last week going “When’s Bly Manor again? Oh Monday, okay” It’s been a wait! Haha But I’ve been avoiding going forward with the show too since I have been wanting to watch along.
I think Hanna is really dead 💔. Also I think Hanna "lives" in the present we are watching but as a dead person she "travels" to different memories forgetting she's in the present. Looks like if you go to those memories kind of just wondering around you can start to get lost in them and forget who you are and the fact that you are "living" in the present. I think this episode is geniusly done. Thanks guys! I'm excited about the rest of the show 💛✨
Hey guys another great couple of reactions. I'm gonna just get right into it. We know that Owen & Jamie are in fact alive because they leave the property. We know that like Hill House those that die there r stuck there. Peter's whole speech to Hannah while possessing Miles right before pushing her down the well was about being stuck, & how he longed for the police to drag him away from the trap that is Bly Manor. Also, just like Hill House we r seeing that time is not linear but circular by the way Hannah leaps thru time & apparently space because she ended up in Rebecca, Miss Jessell's memory & the memory of Peter's demise. I wondered since she could do that whether/not she had some sort of gift while alive. All those times going back to the interview w/ Owen is her need to go back to the beginning because she feels like she's missing something & she is in denial about something that keeps eluding her. We found out why she lights 4 candles in the chapel instead of just 3. Charlotte (Miles & Flora's mother) got her started in lighting 1 candle for her ex-husband because "let's just pretend he is dead". Later, Hannah added candles for the children's parents & Miss Jessell. O, about that no faced kid, u guys either said it was the young version of the lady from the lake/Jamie, but u seemed to be forgetting that Flora ran yelling to her mother & said it was "...a little boy & he doesn't have a face." Did u guys know that the main part of this series was based off of the novella/novel, A TURN OF THE SCREW w/a few short stories of the same author? There have been many movie versions of the main story. This was Mike Flannigan's take on it, plus a few extra tales.worked into it. Anyway, glad u r liking it thus far.😊 Although I really liked THE HAUNTING OF BLY MANOR, I loved THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE, which was also a book written by Shirley Jackson, but the book greatly differs. That was why 1 of the siblings was named Shirley. The rest of the siblings in THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE were characters in the book, as were the Dudleys. Ok, commented long enough. Gonna sign off by saying once again, great reaction u guys.👍😊
I need y'all's reactions to "The Good Place" it is vastly different in so many ways yet it is similar in one way, I can guarantee you will have in-depth discussions on every episode just like you did with this series.
That episode with Hannah's passing made me ill. Every time I see it I get nauseous. It's like motion sickness I guess but with time instead of gravity? It's what my nightmares are like.
My take as to why everyone could see Hannah is because she was in denial about her own death. Also she's the only dead character (that we see) who wasn't killed by the lady in the lake.
I would like yall to know I binge the hell out of this IN A SINGLE NIGHT ✨️thank you very much✨️ and I caught everything yall did, and I watched before you so I didn't take it as a challenge or anything but yeah, I think speed reading books as a kid helped with that 😂😂😂
I don't think you're going to find many people who are following the series at the same rate as you are, but I can tell you what I was thinking back when I was in the middle: This is one of those mini-series that you watch from start to finish, and then watch a second time from start to finish. Don't even try to spot all the details as you go.
I definitely recommend watching bly manor a second time, so many things you notice then! Like Hannah when she caught Peter and Rebecca in the parents' bedroom, she threatens Peter to "drag him into the lake by his ear", which then kinda happens, bc Peter is dragged into the lake! Or Hannah always wears turtlenecks in the scenes she is already dead. Stuff like that. Watched the show several times and every time I noticed something new. ^^
I would say I can enjoy a show more when I don't binge it, at least appreciate the single episodes more. But if the show is good and all episodes are out I often can't help it to binge them all in a few times when I have the time. 😅
I love your thoughts after each episode. Can't wait to see your reactions of the remaining episodes! ❤ I would also love to see you guys reacting to the series "Yellowjackets" after you finished Bly Manor. In my opinion the show needs more attention and even on youtube there are not many reactions to the show. It's an amazing series and I bet you guys will like it as well! It will suck you in and you could discuss for hours after each episode ☺️. The second season is running at the moment and has only couple of episodes left. So you would have plenty episodes to look forward to! Hopefully you will consider watching the series in the future! ❤
I know these series are kind of like puzzles, you have to put some thought into it during the ride. But sometimes you guys try too hard lmao Don't forget that Bly Manor is much like Hill House in that it's full of other ghosts with their own stories, that interact with each other and the living, alike. All will be revealed!
My prediction - could Hannah still be alive at the bottom of the well? She keeps seeing the crack in her disembodied self because her actual body is still staring at it and can't stop staring at it. So she keeps seeing it everywhere her spirit goes. A subtle hint or reminder that maybe she is still alive, the same way she keeps saying her name over and over. To remind herself who she is at the bottom of the well. It might also explain the time jumps. All the times she is unconscious at the bottom of the well is when she is able to roam the grounds as her disembodied self. Maybe?
Nooooo.... Not Hannah?!?! Gotta say, Peter is a slick dude but the way he was taken 😱 This story is getting wild. What did we miss?
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He's probably DEEPLY embarrassed he got deleted by a lady ghost with no face. That's karma, I guess. Or irony. Or something like that.
the "I'm having the strangest dreams," parallels from haunting hill and bly minor never failed to give me the chills !!
I said last post Flora gave something away. In episode 4 in the kitchen Flora says "what if you're dead and don't know it and everyone still sees you.." they pan quickly to Hannah!
Hannah’s episode is so sad. Definitely hurts your heart
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the fact hannah was literally murdered minutes before dani and flora arrived is so disturbing, her body was literally meters away from them
And just think. Had Dani not got out of the car to walk to the house Hannah might still be alive
@@toriboy25now why did you have to blow my mind with no warning?? I've never thought of that
@@toriboy25 how though? her argument with ghost peter and possessed Miles pushing her down the well happened well before Dani arrived and it would have happened regardless of her getting out of the car or not.
Dani's arrival just enabled Hannah's ghost-self to seamlessly continue on as if nothing had happened aka denial of her own death.
literally
Literally. Hannah died and nobody noticed. Not even her
If you pay attention the wine bottle stays full the whole time Hannah's "drinking" from it.
The way it all leads to Peter killing Hannah through Miles is just crazy. Poor Hannah honestly :(
I think a lot of why the Oak wasn't getting jumpscared in Hannah's episode was because of how confusing it is, he was too focused on figuring out what the heck was going on the scares didn't phase him 😂
When the kids fall asleep in the lounge room during their sleepover a few eps ago, as they’re walking the kids to their room, Miles says to Hannah “I had a dream that I hurt you” and Hannah says “you could never hurt me” because he obviously didn’t hurt Hannah but Peter did through him and he doesn’t remember it because he was “tucked away” as Flora calls it
The realization of Hannah being dead the whole time is one of the better plot twists in this show of plot twists.
@@HannahAdamsSister it's all good. We finished the series.
@@HannahAdamsSister I mean it's literally said in the video-
@@HannahAdamsSister I'm confused. It was shown in the episode that she's been dead this whole time. The episode they just watched, reacted to, edited and uploaded?
@@lunacouer if you watch their reactions, they speak about not knowing what is real and what isn’t. I think that’s why it would be a spoiler but they already finished the series and looks like have started Midnight Mass so wasn’t a spoiler after all.
@@HannahAdamsSister -Well, not a spoiler at all, it was made clear in the episode, that Hannah was dead the whole time, it just took them quite a bit to realize it, which was funny to watch. Lol
Everyone sees Hannah although she is dead because she herself does not know it yet, or more like she is in denial and refuses to accept her demise.. so she is just there hanging in a fine thread between the living and the dead.
episode 5 is such an incredible piece of art. hannah's story is so beautiful and tragic, watching it all unfold is absolutely heartbreaking. realizing she's a ghost and she's stuck in a memory loop.... it just hits so hard. you wanna root for her so bad.
Remember what Flora said at dinner to Owen? How when her parents died she felt like maybe she'd died and nobody knew because they could all still see and hear her? Hits a bit different after Hannah's episode.
Wonder why the kids are so afraid to talk about what they see and hear and intuit?
@@ct6852 Probably a combination of past experience with the adults brushing things off as their imaginations (like the mom and uncle with little Flora) or otherwise not really listening to them, wanting to protect the other members of the house from the Lady in the Lake, and Peter telling them not to. I imagine that by the time they were old enough to realize that they were seeing ghosts they'd had a fair amount of the adults not taking them seriously and stopped telling tales, then they watched Peter get ganked and figured that if the adults don't believe them about the supernatural telling them might just make the adults actively step into her path to prove she's not real. And I would bet money Peter cautioned them against telling anyone about him and Rebecca because nothing about that scenario would break well for his plan.
@@JaakuSan Yeah that sounds right. Those kids kind of living in an active war zone between Peter and the Lady of the Lake. Like two killer sharks in the house. Can see why she'd want to believe everything was 'splendid'. Because it definitely was not.
"When Miles is not Miles" is so obvious and concerning before you even know that he's Peta but in episode 3 when Flora meets Miss Jessel she immediately starts imitating her "its perfectly splendid" so if at any time during the series where Miss Jessel takes over Flora, you wouldnt even notice because she was already mirroring her anyway. Its such a brilliant series.
You know the story writing is so good when they show you what happens and you still don't believe it, like Diamond Dave convincing himself Hannah isn't dead when we clearly see her snap her neck down the well😂😂 you are in denial as much as Hannah is 😁😁
I acknowledged that denial in the review 😂😂😂😂 was just hoping it wasn't really happening. It did though.
@@BaddMedicine lol yes, your reaction made it better since Hannah herself was in Denial too😂😂 think we all did not want it to be real 🥲🥲
Like Peter did not remember dying neither did Hannah, but Peter saw his body and found out he was dead, Hannah never did. She didn't know she was dead, she had to tell herself in her minds and dreams.
I hate horror movies, but I really love the story‘s they tell. I‘m too scared to watch them by myself and you guy’s reactions are the only way I‘m able to experience those amazing stories. Apparently, all I needed was three buff men watching alongside me. So, thanks a lot guys, I owe you!❤️
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Hannah’s episode absolutely crushed me. I’m already an emotional person and the two main things that get me are unwavering love and tragedy happening to innocent people, so her suffering this way in a constant loop for however long she decides to remain in denial of her fate, while she’s forced to reconcile with the fact that she can’t have a future with the man she loves???? I had to stop watching for a few days because… it’s just so unfair… it’s so heartbreaking and she was just such a good person through and through… she deserved better…
Episode 5: Hanna says to Miles "do you want to die a terrible, choking death" and he/Peter scoffs at her. Episode 6: the whole story of the brothers is so incredibly intense. When Dominic tells Henry off and banishes him - pure gold. Mathew Holness absolutely explodes off the screen in his two big scenes. Henry inherited everything when they died but maintains his banishment - out of guilt/loyalty(?).
Hannah’s episode 5 is probably my favorite just because of the way it all plays out, it’s such a trip!!
Same. Flanagan has some great episode 5's on his resume.
One of my favourite things about Bly Manor and Hill House is how the ghosts seem to exist outside time, like whichever location they're bound to they just flit between the past/present/future at random. In Hill House it was more prominent because the house itself seemed to exist in a vacuum where time was irrelevant, but it was nice to see that element brought back a bit with Hannah's pov (also the metaphor for dementia adds that extra layer of tragedy to her story)
I was crying so hard at the end of episode 5, I think watching it ruined my whole weekend because I was so sad. But it is absolutely brilliant.
Hanna's episode might be the single best episode Flanagan has ever done, in my opinion. Hanna is such a likeable character and to find out she is dead is such a heart breaking moment. I did NOT pick up the clues like you guys did on my first watch! T'Nia Miller is perfect for this role.
I love how you picked up very early on on Hannah never eating or drinking and theorized (rightly so) she was a ghost, BUT when it's confirmed by her literally falling down the well and breaking her neck, you're like "huh now I'm not sure." I was also waiting for you to realize the lady in the lake wasn't Rebecca! I'm still not quite sure how that misunderstanding came to be, maybe because Hannah said she drowned before we even got to see what she looked like? I remember being confused when you said the lady in the lake was Rebecca.
Love you guy’s, but man you were giving me such anxiety with all your wild guesses and wrong scenarios (ha,Ha) never yelled at my phone more, but great watching as usual. You’re going to absolutely love the last couple of episodes, everything ties together perfectly.
lmao them coming up with all of these theories about the parents being 86'd are cracking me up
Lol.... We were way off
Uncle Henry didn't actually know that Flora was his until his brother told him. This is proven because he asks Charlotte later, who says "I'm sorry for not telling you", and since it's just them two in that scene, there's no reason for him to feign ignorance. The reason the shot hangs on him a little longer during Flora's birth is merely because he wishes he could be the one supporting Charlotte through that hard time, but he can't because it would be weird. That's to hint at the affair, not at him knowing he's Flora's dad, because at point, he doesn't.
Also, all ghosts at Bly are visible. The "ghosts" that are only visible to specific people, like Dani's ex or Uncle Henry's alter ego, are not visible to others because they're not ghosts, they're merely shadows created by guilt and remorse. Most of the time, the characters don't see the background ghosts because they don't really pay attention. But they are all indeed visible, it's not like a superpower to see them. Otherwise, why would Peter go hide behind a tree when Dani first meets Miles, instead of just standing next to Miles like he was before? Dani doesn't see Peter very often because most of the time, he gets into Miles off screen. She doesn't see Miss Jessel even when she's obviously there, because she's always behind her, and by the time Dani notices Flora is watching over her shoulder and she turns around, Miss Jessel is gone. Hannah isn't fully aware she's dead so she doesn't really hide, but can disappear as Dani has said sometimes it's like she just vanishes. In episode 6, Dani finally sees Miss Jessel because she walked in by surprise and Miss Jessel didn't have the time to hide.
One hundred percent watched this show in two days. Appreciate Quinn's view that the show should be slow-burn pondered and discussed and all that...but yeah I couldn't wait that long. 38 hours, tops. Btw the Hannah actress killed it in 5. I definitely didn't remember everything about the show when you guys started...but remembered her performance pretty. Mostly remembered Hannah, Peter, Lake Lady, Precocious Kids, and Tragic Lesbians. The rest got a little blurry. These Flanagan shows are so good.
Episode 5 is my favorite from Bly Manor, and your reactions to it didn't disappoint. I really liked Hannah's character because there was something off about her, and then the big reveal made it all make sense. The fact that she died, literally minutes before meeting Dani was mind blowing. I'm excited for the next update because episode 8 is tragic and creepy.
I was really enjoying ya’ll speculating on how Peter might die while Hannah was in Rebecca’s bedroom. Like give it about a minute and a half and you’ll know lol. (Not that you could know that).
They really red herring that Rebecca is the woman in the lake, but in the Two Faces Pt 1 Rebecca comments about cleaning up muddy footprints which is what gave it away for me.
I think the only thing I will say is to remember that there’s a bunch of ghosts in this house and they have opinions about each other. Remember Flora telling Peter that “the others say to stay away from her”
Dani seeing Rebecca for the first time is probably my favourite scene the entire show. The music behind it is just such horror aesthetic and really shapes the way you react to the scene. If it was just background music you probably wouldn’t be too shocked but that big SCREECH really gets you!
Denial is such a big theme of the Bly series, always with tragic consequences. Thank you Mike Flanagan, our favorite horror therapist.
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Hannahs story is so tragic. It makes me so sad to think of her stuck there wanting to get out but never being able to, especially because she can sense something is wrong.
Also, you guys should give yourselves more credit, you're all super intuitive and smart; when I first wayched this episode I seriously thought Hannah had dementia and she was in a care home being taken care of by nurse Owen LOL. I was waaaay off. Didn't realize until the last few minutes that she was a ghost.
The 6th episode made me cry too, the scene with Flora being "tucked away" in a memory, realizing it and telling her mom she misses her... So heartbreaking. But ever since I watched it, whenever I remember something where I wish I had done something differently, I try to transport myself and do it like seeing my dad or my cat, both have passed away a long time ago but it can be quite healing.
I just love how Flanagan has a way of showing the beauty in tragedy.
I think the creators were definitely giving a dementia theme to Hannah. Flannagan's shows always take real psychological difficulties and traumas and present them as supernatural. Does get confusing when trying to decipher the real sequence of events on the show.
@@ct6852 Thats a really good point that I had never thought of. It makes sense and now that I think of it, Owens mom had dementia, I believe or some form of memory loss, it makes Hannahs conversation with him more meaningful.
Lol Quinn confused with ghosts! Ms. Jessel/Rebecca is not the faceless ghost in the lake, im sure you know this already cause you finished the show but that wasnt supposed to be confusing. And the little faceless kid ghost is most definitely not the same faceless lady from the lake. He is the one who moves the dolls around flora's doll house to tell her where the ghosts are.
You guys discovering a major theme of this series at ep 5 is amazing.
Oak at the very start doing the salute first then looking at his arm in confusion is comedy gold
I'm honestly surprised y'all didn't take the fact that Hannah fell head first down a stone well, with a loud crack as Hannah is absolutely a ghost. Lol. 🤦♀
The whole episode is such a ride but that build up _”Something is Wrong with Miles”_ man, that was peak ‘cinema’ to me
I know you guys have finished the show on Patreon so I'll just say flat out that i figured out right away that Hannah was dead. I thought they laid it out pretty simply and I didn't know it confused others. 😆 I guess I didn't realize there was a different way to view it so this is really interesting to see your thoughts! Like that Hannah was only dreaming and not dead. I never thought to view it that way.
Went back and forth between dead/psychic/dementia. Or some weird combination.
Remember guys: *sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar* ...no need to over-analyse things. 😉
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It has been a while since I watched this. Glad I'm getting a re-watch with you guys.
OMG PERFECT TIMING! I'm gonna do my assignment while watching this
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Number 5 and 3 were my favorites I think.
exactly what i’m doing rn! 😭
@@andiesmonster !! purple blooded spotted :D
@@ct6852 oooh i honestly can't choose but those two are solid fr
"Well, this is awkward. Last time we met we were twins and you're the ghost."
Yes Hannah is dead. She died when Miles (Peter) pushed her down the well seconds before Danielle arrives. Ever since, Hannah has been in denial that shes dead. Thats all you need to know for now. Best watch alongs on the tube!
...and the gardener and cook and children also know she's dead?
@@ct6852 no
I love Rahul Kohli in episode 5. Well, I love him in everything, but his performance is so understated and powerful. Switching between Hannah's real memory and her mind's rationalizing in frame? So good.
Nice reaction as always guys, I love all of your theories.
These two episodes are my favorites, Hannah's story is heartbreaking, and the Uncle's story is just sad, and yes, finding out that Flora is his daughter was a shock. There are many sad stories in the series, including Peter story, and this is what I loved about the series, they give back story for all the characters and ghosts as well. so we could understand their personalities better and where their motivations stem from.
Despite the horror, and occasional terror, this was a very heartwarming series. So, a Ghost Story.
There was a movie release(I think that same year just a little before this series) called the turning, based on the same story. I saw the movie in the theater and left telling my friend I wanted more backstory, I wished it was a tv series not a movie. This hit the nail on the head for me. I texted him when this came out and told him this was exactly what I was talking about. He was familiar with the book and I wasn’t so maybe the movie was better for him because he had more information.
Love the denial for the loss of such a lovable character ❤️
I think hannah has to keep reminding herself where and who she is so she doesn't "dissappear" as a ghost
Don't they want to move on to the light, and whatnot? Or do they not have that option?
@@ct6852 They don't have that option if they died on Bly property.
(possible mild spoilers)Really good call out from Oaks about dementia- the maker of the show actually wanted much of it to be a meditation on dementia. he described this version of death/ghost-hood/Hannah’s experience as “Dementia of the Spirit”
that’s why they talk so much about Owen’s mother along with Hannah’s experiences.
The reason why the face is blurry of the woman in the lake is, because Flanagan wanted to make the ghosts in this season grow blurry over time, to represent a shadow of who they used to be, reduced down to a memory and the only things surviving within are the core emotions that kept them here, like rage without a face.
every time hannah zones out she's jumping through memories and going into memories where she wasn't there in real life. the crack constantly popping up is her subconscious tying to make her remember that she's dead. hannah is dead! this isn't a spoiler, it was literally shown in episode 5 which is why its called altar of the dead.
How did she jump into other people's memories? Is that a ghost ability or something?
@@ct6852 appears so, they’re able to tuck you away in memories and take over your body temporarily - also they’re bound to bly manor, so it may be a bly manor thing.
Hannah at that point jumped into the memory of another ghost, so maybe it’s only a ghost thing.
@@marvelousmia The rules of ghosthood were really confusing in this one. Still wondering if becoming a ghost was some kind of punishment? Or what made them suddenly become visible to everyone? And why they can't leave the property? Or why they get trapped in a chest or a lake and can't get out? So many questions. Lol.
@@ct6852 it’s not that confusing, the gravity of viola traps them there. they’re all able to leave in the end when dani sacrifices herself, also ghost has always been able to allow people to see them when they want and not when they don’t. hannah is always visible and able to interact with them because she’s in denial/unaware that she’s dead.
ngl, because of Owen's mom having alzheimer's or dementia, I was fully believing that Hannah was also going down that road, that she has no feeling for time anymore, where she is, *when* she is. Only when she was pushed down the well I realised that it's not the case.
I love when you upload and I can watch your reaction with my post-dinner tea 😀 👌
I know episode 5 was quite a wild ride but seeing you so confused is kinda funny, sorry 😅 for me it explained so much with Hannah. But also it was quite clear what happened with Peter. We saw Flora repeatedly tell Dani to stay in her room at night, and even though it might have been weird at first, but then in ep 4 (I think?) both her and Miles try to distract Dani so she doesn't come near the Lady from the lake. And it makes sense, as long as you don't meet her, you're fine. But Peter...he stood in the way unfortunately.
“In Paris I was a Sous Chef which means they only let me chop vegetables”
Watched with the early access and now again watching the edited one 😍
Couldn't get enough of them discussing the show 🎉🎉
Episode 5 is one of my fave episode of this series👌🏻
At first i thought maybe she has dementia too or something, but well..
She was always touching the back of her head.
The fact that Oak is still sporting those harry potter tees males me so happy 😊
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The Hannah episode is one of my favourite episodes of anything ever
Ep 5 is my absolute favorite episode. Hannah's story is the best. I loved watching you guys react to it.
Diamond Dave was thinking about it too much lol🤣 Loved the reaction guys!! The Hannah episode is my favorite of Bly Manor.
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Peter was choked to death by the lady in the lake. She has a very strong grip! When you see his arm fall before they enter the forbidden wing, that's when he loses consciousness. But he only fully dies a few seconds later, which is when we see his ghost walk back to the kids.
I spent the whole last week going “When’s Bly Manor again? Oh Monday, okay” It’s been a wait! Haha But I’ve been avoiding going forward with the show too since I have been wanting to watch along.
There’s really no explanation you’ll get at this point, you really just have to watch till the end 😂
I love your reactions so dang much!!! Can’t wait to see you guys finish this season!
I think Hanna is really dead 💔. Also I think Hanna "lives" in the present we are watching but as a dead person she "travels" to different memories forgetting she's in the present. Looks like if you go to those memories kind of just wondering around you can start to get lost in them and forget who you are and the fact that you are "living" in the present. I think this episode is geniusly done.
Thanks guys! I'm excited about the rest of the show 💛✨
This shit blew my mind when I first seen it. I couldn’t wait for y’all to get to this part
Hey guys another great couple of reactions. I'm gonna just get right into it. We know that Owen & Jamie are in fact alive because they leave the property. We know that like Hill House those that die there r stuck there. Peter's whole speech to Hannah while possessing Miles right before pushing her down the well was about being stuck, & how he longed for the police to drag him away from the trap that is Bly Manor. Also, just like Hill House we r seeing that time is not linear but circular by the way Hannah leaps thru time & apparently space because she ended up in Rebecca, Miss Jessell's memory & the memory of Peter's demise. I wondered since she could do that whether/not she had some sort of gift while alive. All those times going back to the interview w/ Owen is her need to go back to the beginning because she feels like she's missing something & she is in denial about something that keeps eluding her. We found out why she lights 4 candles in the chapel instead of just 3. Charlotte (Miles & Flora's mother) got her started in lighting 1 candle for her ex-husband because "let's just pretend he is dead". Later, Hannah added candles for the children's parents & Miss Jessell. O, about that no faced kid, u guys either said it was the young version of the lady from the lake/Jamie, but u seemed to be forgetting that Flora ran yelling to her mother & said it was "...a little boy & he doesn't have a face." Did u guys know that the main part of this series was based off of the novella/novel, A TURN OF THE SCREW w/a few short stories of the same author? There have been many movie versions of the main story. This was Mike Flannigan's take on it, plus a few extra tales.worked into it. Anyway, glad u r liking it thus far.😊 Although I really liked THE HAUNTING OF BLY MANOR, I loved THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE, which was also a book written by Shirley Jackson, but the book greatly differs. That was why 1 of the siblings was named Shirley. The rest of the siblings in THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE were characters in the book, as were the Dudleys. Ok, commented long enough. Gonna sign off by saying once again, great reaction u guys.👍😊
I need y'all's reactions to "The Good Place" it is vastly different in so many ways yet it is similar in one way, I can guarantee you will have in-depth discussions on every episode just like you did with this series.
"You are Hannah Grose. The year is 1987. You are at Bly." 😭
That episode with Hannah's passing made me ill. Every time I see it I get nauseous. It's like motion sickness I guess but with time instead of gravity? It's what my nightmares are like.
Please upload the remaining episodes quickly, cannot wait
I'm so gald you guys are watching this with us! Epsidoe 5 & 8 are my favorites, can't wait for you to see!
Oh how I cried in Hanna's episode, the final scene was so sad that even father got emotional😅
You guys are killing me with the forensic files theories 😂😂😂
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Hannah is this seasons Nelly, both are very sad tragic characters that deserved better
Nelly and Dani both are tragic 😢😢
And they both say the confetti phrase.
Thanks! Loving the extra content for Members. Keep it up.
Thank you for the super CT!!!!! We greatly appreciate it!
My take as to why everyone could see Hannah is because she was in denial about her own death. Also she's the only dead character (that we see) who wasn't killed by the lady in the lake.
When you finish you NEED to watch Amanda the Jedi's Super break down of this story & it's history!
the boys not beliving hanna died : DENIAL hahah
Wow who knew 4 days could create withdrawal symptoms? XD
This shit is weirdly addictive. I don't understand it either. Lol.
I would like yall to know I binge the hell out of this IN A SINGLE NIGHT ✨️thank you very much✨️ and I caught everything yall did, and I watched before you so I didn't take it as a challenge or anything but yeah, I think speed reading books as a kid helped with that 😂😂😂
The crack Hannah kept seeing was the crack to her skull when she was pushed by “miles”. She just didn’t know it
even if it was an accident the guilt is still very real because they wouldn't have gone on a trip if he hadn't slept with his brother's wife.
I can’t unsee how much the dad looks like Meatloaf now
I don't think you're going to find many people who are following the series at the same rate as you are, but I can tell you what I was thinking back when I was in the middle: This is one of those mini-series that you watch from start to finish, and then watch a second time from start to finish. Don't even try to spot all the details as you go.
Thank god! I’m not having the best day guys 😢and this will help me get through ❤
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Sorry to hear that. Hope this brings a little joy to your day.
Jamie definitely left, she went to the funeral and when they were drinking she left with Owen
Check out In Bruges (2008) please
The first time I watched this series, I agreed with Mason Quinn when we got to this point. Since I don't want to spoil anything, that's all I'll say.
I definitely recommend watching bly manor a second time, so many things you notice then! Like Hannah when she caught Peter and Rebecca in the parents' bedroom, she threatens Peter to "drag him into the lake by his ear", which then kinda happens, bc Peter is dragged into the lake! Or Hannah always wears turtlenecks in the scenes she is already dead. Stuff like that. Watched the show several times and every time I noticed something new. ^^
I would say I can enjoy a show more when I don't binge it, at least appreciate the single episodes more.
But if the show is good and all episodes are out I often can't help it to binge them all in a few times when I have the time. 😅
I love your thoughts after each episode. Can't wait to see your reactions of the remaining episodes! ❤
I would also love to see you guys reacting to the series "Yellowjackets" after you finished Bly Manor. In my opinion the show needs more attention and even on youtube there are not many reactions to the show. It's an amazing series and I bet you guys will like it as well! It will suck you in and you could discuss for hours after each episode ☺️. The second season is running at the moment and has only couple of episodes left. So you would have plenty episodes to look forward to!
Hopefully you will consider watching the series in the future! ❤
I know these series are kind of like puzzles, you have to put some thought into it during the ride. But sometimes you guys try too hard lmao Don't forget that Bly Manor is much like Hill House in that it's full of other ghosts with their own stories, that interact with each other and the living, alike. All will be revealed!
My prediction - could Hannah still be alive at the bottom of the well? She keeps seeing the crack in her disembodied self because her actual body is still staring at it and can't stop staring at it. So she keeps seeing it everywhere her spirit goes. A subtle hint or reminder that maybe she is still alive, the same way she keeps saying her name over and over. To remind herself who she is at the bottom of the well. It might also explain the time jumps. All the times she is unconscious at the bottom of the well is when she is able to roam the grounds as her disembodied self. Maybe?
Oh man, y'all are NOT ready for episode 7. That's a total whammy.
I was waiting for them to get to ep 5.
Morning cardio with boys is the best medicine there is!
Get it! 🤜🤛
You dont know whats going on? I watched this first time around after a massive bifter. My face was confusion personified 😂