@@crystalinabacteria3430 gosh, me too, I never realised my sister was a narc (covert, victim mentality) until I had my unfortunate encounter with a male one... it's even harder with family because they're your family... Bet wishes for you 💗
Thay also may start to cry and made themself a victim. But yes, silent treatment and COLD behaviour is the main weapon. Afterall the ultimate revange for them is new supply and discard you.
Raised by one, married one. All that’s true. I knew nothing about narcissist but knew something wasn’t right. My ex husband was very condescending and would give me the clenched jaw to control me. Then I met an overt narcissist. The scariest thing ever! That’s how I snapped!
@@HoneyBadger80886 Is that the act of withholding in and of itself? “I’ll tell you later.” - that kind of thing…? Nevermind…I looked it up. Gotcha. Word.
@@saintjabronithe love they never gave in the first place. Withhold family by arranging whole family events buy exclude you. With old nice treatment to your kid. Withold contact, praise or anything nice for you or your kid or partner.
I watched a covert narcissist fly into a tantrum over the most minor inconvenience. She definitely raised her voice. Perhaps it wasn’t genuine rage, but it was loud, ridiculous, and resembled a toddler in full melt down.
They are all cowards, either way they cannot be honest !!! Love your vids, Lets share our truth and share these very important messages, that affect so many folks in society today. !!!
We used to argue in the beginning, circular talk/arguments, word salads. He would try to pain me as being crazy/obsessed but I was more indifferent at that point like w/e.
It's been professional said that all antisocial personalities are narcissistic, but not all narcissists are antisocial. Antisocial Personality Disorder is the correct terminology for sociopathy/psychopathy. An ex is diagnosed ASPD and is very overt, aggressive, violent. Textbook sociopath. Psychopaths are more controlled as their anatomy is actually different.
Yesss they are MOST DISHONEST IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. Listen CAREFULLY to how they word things they convey to you!!! Jesus said “let your yes be yes and your no be no”
@@wms72Yes!! It tried to jump into me, a Spirit, I felt it. I knew it! I cried out to Jesus and it went somewhere, not too long after my son got sick, came down with severe OCD. Let me tell you.. I prayed over that boy, got him on meds, got him into counseling! He didn’t want to leave the house but would go to church.. 🙌🏾🙌🏾😭 Listen to me.. it took months! I bought blessed holy water, walked that house without ceasing, prayed Psalm 91 over him everyday. By the grace of God he is well today. Went back to work and University, will be graduating in couple weeks. Then the real work began! To get this man out my house. It took several more weeks cause it wasn’t willing to go. Oh he left!! He l-e-f-t!!! ..when I tell you, there’s a PEACE in my home? I mean a PEACE that’s surpasses all understanding? 😭😭🙌🏾🙌🏾 Thank you Lord.. thank you. Lesson learnt.
They aren't real family they are a fake illusion caste into your life Leave them and find your true self and purpose these filthy cult weirdos raped and robbed of you
So true. They smile or remain calm after provoking someone. Their joy is being able to get a rise out of you. Very unhealthy. Present selves as victims n win sympathy from others. But truly cause own problems.
I was going to say the same. I feel like most of the time it appears that my ex is a covert but he did absolutely lose his temper invoice and actions but usually behind closed doors or when no one could ever document it. So I don't know what to think😢
@@BriJo91 I think it can be normal for people to have arguments in private and not in public. It'd just when the rage abuse, psychological abuse and or violence is abnormal and is a side that the rest of friends and family do not see.
That's my husband. He knows how to behave in public and lets his misery out at home. I can feel when a rage is coming. The air is tense and suddenly he blows up over nothing.
They can Never can answer a direct question, Always directing attention by crying, changing the subject, or twisting the truth or straight up gaslighting They think being mysterious is charming but have so much mystery they just end up looking shady. No one knows their true feelings / identity because they are always hiding something or someone from somebody else. Even the people closest to them
Covert Narcissistic present differently and act shy or passive. This is an act. They appear quiet and meek but, are very vindictive. They’ll gaslight, give the silent treatment, ignore you and will do things to irate you deliberately. They’ll withhold affection and will treat you like you mean absolutely nothing to them. They are very cruel but will appear like meek sheep, to convince otherwise.
Are they able to flip from being malicious to covert and vice versa? He use to scream in my face in front of people but then changed his tactics to being quieter and not so obvious.
Yes, depends on how stable they are at time and if there’s an audience of flying monkeys who will side with him no matter what or an audience who would look at him differently if they saw his true colors. In private it’s a hellish free for all for them.
This is so true. I live with a covert narcissist. When he is upset over what ever minor in fraction I do, he stops talking for 1-2 weeks, isolates himself and if he does decide to talk he is often times sarcastic or condescending. I am always at fault, and he does not acknowledge his own behavior. He forever plays the victim.
My husband will destroy stuff or emotionally push me to be violent, then record me. He will stab me in my vulnerable underbelly and smile about it. Truly sinister, intentional and evil.
This explanation is spot on! I had to quit an internship bc my mentor is a covert narcissist. Scary to be around them! Thank you for explaining these types of people!
Listen, they also rehearse what they're going to say, so the lies are smooth, seem true. You can overhear them sometimes. It sounds like they're actually talking to someone and..I swear to God..They actually answer themselves. Story prep. And they call us crazy. We all talk to ourselves, but this is on a whole different level.
Oh and they can use any tone or volume as they push all your buttons, pull all the levers to get a reaction from you, as soon as you confront them with facts and reason... you can't talk to them like that. Like what? The sounds of sanity? The sounds of reality? DUDE! I'M NOT CRAZY, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO OR SAY, I KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!
Yessss omg the fact that I experienced this mess for 2 years and was begging to communicate because I was trying to fix something that wasn’t even my fault. Now he can kiss my &$@ I love the silence. Can’t wait to be financially able to leave.
Watching it again again again coz it is so true Cant imagine that they have this deceptive nature Unable to digest this fact That they are so evil Cowards truly
This is the most specifically accurate description of what my ex-wife turned out to be once I found out the truth about her past and that she never actually loved me at all. I was a FOOL.
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My ex lied in court saying I don’t see the kids and that he buys all their clothes. I have credit card debts from buying school clothes. They begged me for clothes, because he would chose their clothes from secondhand stores. He has more money than me. What he did was tell the future. After court, he kept the children away from me. Back to court we go!
Get a good lawyer. One with a track record of Narcs...the rest don't know s#it re how to deal with the #Narc in #Court. Author- Eddy, Books- Splitting and Walking on Eggshells are excellent. Strength and peace. I miss my daughter. And he couldn't love her and also hide her away from her family. Sicko
Well, here we are. Finally I know. You've got him down to a "T." He stays away from me in every way because he knows I've got his number now. I still hurt, a lot, but even more I feel terrible sorrow and sadness for all he could have had and been. He is an old, sad man. Fortunately for him, I don't think he knows that. Yet. Or maybe never. Yes, that is his rage as you say. I didn't recognize this form of rage, cowardly and even more cowardly. I feel sorrow and pity for him. Now what do I do.
*my Covert Narc does confront directly, but ONLY by text, hiding behind a screen, vomiting utter Lies & digging up my past for Hours to attempt to devalue me.
Lol can be so irritating, but its a pattern so u can actually predict their choices, at one point i knew she would say left if i said right so i swapped my real choice and it Worked!!!! She couldn't figure out why i was laughing so hard.
This is what I dealt with for three years and then if I got angry she said I was crazy! She even called my mother and my sons to ask them if I was crazy. Meanwhile , later in the marriage she resorted to beating me !
Same thing. Covert, vulnerable, mid range type A (HG Tudor typed this) are all the same type (play overwhelming angel victim/hero vs cowardly raging bully but never admit to being the villain).
A narcissist is trying to label me as a covert narcissist. I can’t and won’t engage in a confrontation if the other person will not talk like a normal adult and accept when they are wrong. GTFOH
So what does it imply when someone behaves like this then occasionally screams at you and intimidatingly invades your space so you feel in potential danger. Usually passive and smiles as if nothing wrong. What does it mean when that type screams and uses volume tactic as way to win by silencing your voice.
Out of the 17 years I’ve been with my narc husband he has only gotten full-on rage once, and threw a glass when I called him a liar. He keeps his cool the rest of the time and runs away when I have him pinned up and he can’t get out of trying to twist words and play the victim. He plays stupid, so I treat him as such.
But when he did get physical and mean he would crash into me with his chest all filled up so that I would know I was being attacked and hit him or scratch him so that he could say I hit him. Disgusting.
They are so sneaky, like snakes. Passive aggressive poke, poke, poke, poke, poke, then you explode and YOU are the villain
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Absolutely true
Amen that's about it. Horrible and devastating.
So true that is what my sister does to me. Her poking is ignoring me until I respond & confront her then she makes me feel I'm in the wrong
@@crystalinabacteria3430 gosh, me too, I never realised my sister was a narc (covert, victim mentality) until I had my unfortunate encounter with a male one... it's even harder with family because they're your family... Bet wishes for you 💗
They are COWARDS 💯👏🏾
Stab in our back and smile like an angel
Thay also may start to cry and made themself a victim.
But yes, silent treatment and COLD behaviour is the main weapon.
Afterall the ultimate revange for them is new supply and discard you.
I wish they discard me , she likes making herself victim by crying
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Honey!! I sped up my discard! Called the ex and beg her to take him!! Discard me darn it! 😂
Raised by one, married one. All that’s true. I knew nothing about narcissist but knew something wasn’t right. My ex husband was very condescending and would give me the clenched jaw to control me. Then I met an overt narcissist. The scariest thing ever! That’s how I snapped!
Passive aggression and Withholding...WORD
What exactly is withholding?
@@saintjabroni I'll tell you later
@@HoneyBadger80886 Is that the act of withholding in and of itself? “I’ll tell you later.” - that kind of thing…?
Nevermind…I looked it up. Gotcha. Word.
@@saintjabroni word.
@@saintjabronithe love they never gave in the first place. Withhold family by arranging whole family events buy exclude you. With old nice treatment to your kid. Withold contact, praise or anything nice for you or your kid or partner.
wtf this perfectly describes my ex-best friend. lol.
Same! I look back now and realize all of the tactics. 😕
She did the same with me ... and made look as if I am responsible for everything that had gone bad between us
I watched a covert narcissist fly into a tantrum over the most minor inconvenience. She definitely raised her voice. Perhaps it wasn’t genuine rage, but it was loud, ridiculous, and resembled a toddler in full melt down.
Covert Narcs Twist the Truth, blame shift, exaggerate, lie, and then go silent to punish you. Be Safe. Be Well.
They are all cowards, either way they cannot be honest !!! Love your vids, Lets share our truth and share these very important messages, that affect so many folks in society today. !!!
We used to argue in the beginning, circular talk/arguments, word salads. He would try to pain me as being crazy/obsessed but I was more indifferent at that point like w/e.
Withholding is the main tool and invalidation as well.
The mental image of being stabbed while looking at someone’s smiling face, is the creepiest thing that I can imagine.
Thats exactly what my neighbour does. He smirks. He has done a lot of nasty things yet the other neighbours think he's innocent.
Yes , I am spoken to with contempt and sarcasm. Just a matter of time he will speak to himself alone because I will be gone. Buh bye narc
It's not because they're cowards, it's because it causes you to underestimate them.. they are cunning and have psychopathic tendencies.
So are covert narcs more psychopathic than overt ones?
It's been professional said that all antisocial personalities are narcissistic, but not all narcissists are antisocial.
Antisocial Personality Disorder is the correct terminology for sociopathy/psychopathy.
An ex is diagnosed ASPD and is very overt, aggressive, violent. Textbook sociopath. Psychopaths are more controlled as their anatomy is actually different.
Yesss they are MOST DISHONEST IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. Listen CAREFULLY to how they word things they convey to you!!!
Jesus said “let your yes be yes and your no be no”
Their entire Snake Gang is full of such covert abusers
That's exactly 💯 🤣 😄 👏 😂 except the covert I'm dealing with is very evil 😈 demon possession is possible 😳
It feels like demon possession ! It IS demon possession! It is all consuming and life sucking …get out.
Yes, I'm sure mine was possessed, too. Paranormal activities in his house
My ex would hit me in his sleep! Well aimed, too.
@@wms72Yes!! It tried to jump into me, a Spirit, I felt it. I knew it! I cried out to Jesus and it went somewhere, not too long after my son got sick, came down with severe OCD.
Let me tell you.. I prayed over that boy, got him on meds, got him into counseling! He didn’t want to leave the house but would go to church.. 🙌🏾🙌🏾😭
Listen to me.. it took months! I bought blessed holy water, walked that house without ceasing, prayed Psalm 91 over him everyday. By the grace of God he is well today. Went back to work and University, will be graduating in couple weeks.
Then the real work began! To get this man out my house. It took several more weeks cause it wasn’t willing to go.
Oh he left!! He l-e-f-t!!!
..when I tell you, there’s a PEACE in my home? I mean a PEACE that’s surpasses all understanding? 😭😭🙌🏾🙌🏾
Thank you Lord.. thank you. Lesson learnt.
@nancylallier5345 thank you
This describes my sister in law.
Stuck up and sour soul.
They aren't real family they are a fake illusion caste into your life
Leave them and find your true self and purpose these filthy cult weirdos raped and robbed of you
So true. They smile or remain calm after provoking someone. Their joy is being able to get a rise out of you. Very unhealthy. Present selves as victims n win sympathy from others. But truly cause own problems.
OMG this relates to something I lived.
My sister was a malignant raging narc and to save her marriage sort psychiatric help. Turned her into a covert. They never change. Ever
Yup sum are born sum are made
They just change tactics.
I think my mum was covert. At least to the outside world but at home she would rage scream and be violent daily.
I was going to say the same. I feel like most of the time it appears that my ex is a covert but he did absolutely lose his temper invoice and actions but usually behind closed doors or when no one could ever document it. So I don't know what to think😢
@@BriJo91 I think it can be normal for people to have arguments in private and not in public. It'd just when the rage abuse, psychological abuse and or violence is abnormal and is a side that the rest of friends and family do not see.
That's my husband. He knows how to behave in public and lets his misery out at home. I can feel when a rage is coming. The air is tense and suddenly he blows up over nothing.
They can Never can answer a direct question,
Always directing attention by crying, changing the subject, or twisting the truth or straight up gaslighting
They think being mysterious is charming but have so much mystery they just end up looking shady.
No one knows their true feelings / identity because they are always hiding something or someone from somebody else.
Even the people closest to them
Yes all of it and bbn physical abuse.THE WORSE.he belongs in jail but i just want him away without all that hell to relive of 25 yrs.
Facts…# I call them the “Malignant dark empath”
Covert Narcissistic present differently and act shy or passive. This is an act. They appear quiet and meek but, are very vindictive. They’ll gaslight, give the silent treatment, ignore you and will do things to irate you deliberately. They’ll withhold affection and will treat you like you mean absolutely nothing to them. They are very cruel but will appear like meek sheep, to convince otherwise.
Spot on.. vampires of today
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Bingo!!!!!!
Mine flies into a rage 😡 after his other tactics fail
They send flying monkeys to attack you!
Are they able to flip from being malicious to covert and vice versa? He use to scream in my face in front of people but then changed his tactics to being quieter and not so obvious.
Yes, depends on how stable they are at time and if there’s an audience of flying monkeys who will side with him no matter what or an audience who would look at him differently if they saw his true colors. In private it’s a hellish free for all for them.
Biggest cowards going it’s like they throw a stone then go hide behind a rock and say it wasn’t me I’m innocent
This is so true. I live with a covert narcissist. When he is upset over what ever minor in fraction I do, he stops talking for 1-2 weeks, isolates himself and if he does decide to talk he is often times sarcastic or condescending. I am always at fault, and he does not acknowledge his own behavior. He forever plays the victim.
My husband will destroy stuff or emotionally push me to be violent, then record me. He will stab me in my vulnerable underbelly and smile about it. Truly sinister, intentional and evil.
Yes, they're inauthentic cowards.
This explanation is spot on! I had to quit an internship bc my mentor is a covert narcissist. Scary to be around them! Thank you for explaining these types of people!
Ohhhh so true! Coverts are very calm and sneaky and go silent.......overts FLIP OUT and are very comparable to THE EXORCIST.
Listen, they also rehearse what they're going to say, so the lies are smooth, seem true. You can overhear them sometimes. It sounds like they're actually talking to someone and..I swear to God..They actually answer themselves. Story prep. And they call us crazy.
We all talk to ourselves, but this is on a whole different level.
Mine definately isnt covert then, he will always confront more than directly.
Oh and they can use any tone or volume as they push all your buttons, pull all the levers to get a reaction from you, as soon as you confront them with facts and reason... you can't talk to them like that.
Like what? The sounds of sanity? The sounds of reality?
DUDE! I'M NOT CRAZY, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO OR SAY, I KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!
Yessss omg the fact that I experienced this mess for 2 years and was begging to communicate because I was trying to fix something that wasn’t even my fault. Now he can kiss my &$@ I love the silence. Can’t wait to be financially able to leave.
Watching it again again again coz it is so true
Cant imagine that they have this deceptive nature
Unable to digest this fact
That they are so evil
Cowards truly
I got passive aggression, but also screaming, being called a scumbag, the scum of the Earth and similar :(
Witholding, neglecting and twisting things around....definitely.
Damn you hit all the points. That's exactly how the covert narcissist I ran into behaved.
Sounds Familiar 😈🤬👹
Bam! Nailed it…. Until the end … I hit a few soft spots at the end
Thanks Danish!❤⚘
True!!😊😊😊
This is the most specifically accurate description of what my ex-wife turned out to be once I found out the truth about her past and that she never actually loved me at all. I was a FOOL.
Experienced each 1 of these. Thanks I'm not crazy
Thank you for sharing this short. 🙏 ❤
Exactly. That’s what they do and they’re a pro at it
Omg my sister 100% its bad enough having a partner like this but to have a sibling actually do this is just shocking
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They commit perjury steal yo kids and put you in effing jail
I am so sorry for your loss. My #narcExhusband stole my #daughter and #grandchildren...from me and her brothers.
My ex lied in court saying I don’t see the kids and that he buys all their clothes. I have credit card debts from buying school clothes. They begged me for clothes, because he would chose their clothes from secondhand stores. He has more money than me. What he did was tell the future. After court, he kept the children away from me. Back to court we go!
Get a good lawyer. One with a track record of Narcs...the rest don't know s#it re how to deal with the #Narc in #Court. Author- Eddy, Books- Splitting and Walking on Eggshells are excellent.
Strength and peace.
I miss my daughter. And he couldn't love her and also hide her away from her family. Sicko
It's heartbreaking! And, they get away with it. They need to be incarcerated for life for the abuse!
This is very accurate and actually most convincing evidence that she was in fact a narcissist. She did these three things perfectly
Well, here we are. Finally I know. You've got him down to a "T." He stays away from me in every way because he knows I've got his number now. I still hurt, a lot, but even more I feel terrible sorrow and sadness for all he could have had and been. He is an old, sad man. Fortunately for him, I don't think he knows that. Yet. Or maybe never.
Yes, that is his rage as you say. I didn't recognize this form of rage, cowardly and even more cowardly.
I feel sorrow and pity for him. Now what do I do.
SPOT ON DANISH THANK YOU
LOVE UR VIDEOS .
KEEP MOVING ❤
They are the Vampire’s of our times., watch out everyone!
*my Covert Narc does confront directly, but ONLY by text, hiding behind a screen, vomiting utter Lies & digging up my past for Hours to attempt to devalue me.
Lol can be so irritating, but its a pattern so u can actually predict their choices, at one point i knew she would say left if i said right so i swapped my real choice and it Worked!!!! She couldn't figure out why i was laughing so hard.
Spot on
Excellent explanation 👍
🫢Explained perfectly!!❤
Oh yes... I worked with a woman like this. A total beach... I have nothing to do with her now.
Oh I about that all too well I was with one a covert narcissist for 10 years of pure hell
Exactly and so true
Yup, thank you sir
This is exactly how it is, wow
This is what I dealt with for three years and then if I got angry she said I was crazy! She even called my mother and my sons to ask them if I was crazy. Meanwhile , later in the marriage she resorted to beating me !
My covert narcissistic mother is a rager too.
VERY TRUE 👍💯💯
A ANGEL STAB oh my 👀😇
Very true
They are mentally and spiritually and emotionally dreaming
I see this to be a learned behaviour by covert narcs to cope with their anger and fear.
Yep.
Wow so true
I think a covert narc just revealed themselves to me last week.
My ex did all of that, but was also physically violent.. & was a covert narcissist..
so true, all of it
Can someone have all covert sign but be violent when they rage
Yes yes Yes my husband has been doing this all the time
Is it possible to be a covert, but also play the victim. Like a vulnerable narcissist?
Same thing. Covert, vulnerable, mid range type A (HG Tudor typed this) are all the same type (play overwhelming angel victim/hero vs cowardly raging bully but never admit to being the villain).
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Wihtholding legit can make someone end themselves
Nowonder he cold n look cunning to me.always smile and told me im the one is crazy.this is sad
My ex is a covert narcissist. He's a minister and uses the church for a new supply of women. I pray he never hurts another woman. He's 70 😏
Standing for me
Exactly so
A narcissist is trying to label me as a covert narcissist. I can’t and won’t engage in a confrontation if the other person will not talk like a normal adult and accept when they are wrong. GTFOH
So what does it imply when someone behaves like this then occasionally screams at you and intimidatingly invades your space so you feel in potential danger. Usually passive and smiles as if nothing wrong. What does it mean when that type screams and uses volume tactic as way to win by silencing your voice.
Dr. Bashir can you explain a little about Overt Narcissist please
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Out of the 17 years I’ve been with my narc husband he has only gotten full-on rage once, and threw a glass when I called him a liar. He keeps his cool the rest of the time and runs away when I have him pinned up and he can’t get out of trying to twist words and play the victim. He plays stupid, so I treat him as such.
I hope you got out of that loving relationship. I lived with one for eight months, and it was all I could stand.
@@mumbles215 I did, I left 7 months ago🙌🏼
Yup
Bingo!!!!!
But when he did get physical and mean he would crash into me with his chest all filled up so that I would know I was being attacked and hit him or scratch him so that he could say I hit him. Disgusting.
However,I knew better cause I NEVER , EVER CHEATED...; Lord knows if he ever did..( I wouldn't be s urprised!)
Hello Danish. Can you please discuss religious narcissism. Thank you.
Walf in ship which I'm free of it thank you God for destroying that energetically connection
Ja sam bila prvo besna kad te vidim i čujem, ali navikla sam i bogu hvala što ne krijete da ste covert psiho.