Would love to see more internet personalities employ the Keffals defense of just going "Huh? What?" and then not elaborating or refuting anything at all. lol
I love how keffals accused turkey tom of dodging because he wouldn't immediately start a convo with her at an inconvenient time, but dodged when turkey tom lightly criticises her for her terrible behaviour. She really is a pathological liar. She can't even be truthful on accident. Truly just a bad person
Man. Every time I hear a rebuttal about Keffals I get so frustrated. They just keep denying direct evidence and lying. Keffals drives me freaking insane.
They tried for decades to get Ted Bundy to admit guilt and he still resisted. Even after confessing his crimes he still danced around it and avoided saying certain things explicitly. You will never, ever get psychopath like Keffals to internalize their own guilt. They lack the capacity. They will cope and sneed to the grave.
@aliceviens7what do you mean nothing we can do. Null single handedly fought against her attempts for cloudfare to drop his site. And was able to get the farms rehosted and built his own ddos protection from scratch so that he can’t just get dropped again so easily. Just giving up and handing a lunitic the W is never an option.
@@ChadMoggington ignoring her isn't the same thing as handing her a w. Her entire battle plan is growing on controversy, so that requires you to respond, and feed the troll. He already said to make a discrediting video that encompasses everything, and destroys everything she's trying to use to start some controversy, but then let it all die down, so she doesn't get any more attention after that.
@𖤐Alice Viens𖤐 I hate to say it but this is true. I almost reflexively rage clicked her video “the disturbing allegations against turkey tom” just so I could make fun of it and see what more pathological lying bullshit she was gonna pull out of her ass against him Only to realize “wait thats exactly what she wants” and likely only titled it how she did to get angry-curious clicks from Tom fans She thrives on this shit and shes barely able to maintain any scrap of viewership through her chronic victim complex that makes all her brainwashed fans think its “them vs us” when in reality its just Keffals vs herself and her own lies and manipulation being exposed to her face, and - of course - baiting anger views/clicks. Its a tale old as time and newspapers have been knowing and aware of this strategy for decades
I mean all of Toms mods will ban/mute you from chat just for saying “shut up Keffals” I know that the opinion of Chicken Cuck on The Farms right now is 50/50
Segregation in sports is very normal. Men and women are segregated in sports because we wouldn't have any (at least very very few) women in professional sports
Even the lowest male athlete in any sport can beat the best women have. An unranked boxer beat the best female boxer, 15 year old high soccer players beat the Olympic gold medal female soccer team. The 400th male swimmer beat the best female swimmer. A trans volleyball player hospitalized three women. Etc etc etc. It's delusional to think that trans women should be playing against biological and there's no edge. I'm just done.
Keffals acting like a trans vigilante in the media but never hear much about her possible grooming allegations and CP? Aslo telling minors to use hormone pills in secret
Yea, had this one chick on Instagram try and convince me that I should take hormones and that I would make “such a pretty girl” and it was...very uncomfortable
@@stuglife5514 ....okay wow....that's really uncomfortable, what the hell, our country banned that sort of stuff....heavy charges if you do something like that, and trying to reassign gender....
The thing about Keffals that I hate is that she is selectively edgy, I also notice that with other breadtubers or leftists. Only they can use slurs or edgy jokes for their ideological enemies but when their enemies even think about fighting back, they start whining and ask their whole audience to flag the “offensive bigots”. If she can make fun of people’s situations and insult their character, it’s only fair we can do the same to her.
Nope sorry. You can't do that. Trans people can do absolutely no wrong and anything you say that goes against them in any way should land you in Guantanamo Bay
I wonder how many of keffals fans went into Tom's chat to post transphobic stuff, just so keffals can point and say "see, they're not worth listening to"...
well there were a few out of pocket comments on some of the videos that were transphobic however tom literally denounced this, so keffals point is just irrelevant
very measured response to 'Queen Keffahls," hit all the main issues with her lying about the drop kiwi farms drama without going into the DIY HRT Directory
@Jeff Is that the one with the chick who gets zapped repeatedly by a malfunctioning laser eye surgery machine only to stumble out the window to the ground below where she gets run over by a speeding motorist? Yeah, I still get shivers down my spine from that particular scene, just sayin’. 😱
People like Keffals piss me off so much because so many people assume in just like her as soon as they find out in gay…Im a regular gay man, born a male, I live a regular life and I genuinely don’t care what you think of me as long as you don’t mean any harm. You know what happens when people tell me stuff that makes me uncomfortable? I process it and then go about my life. I don’t try to silence people just because they do/say stuff I don’t like. Ugh people like Keffals just make that impossible
@@Ian00003 they don’t have to but tom was under the impression that she was a good person which with destiny video it is proven she not and giving the benefit of the doubt to her was a poor choice.
@@RadioEnnui nah it just make it so the comment is not deleted since Tom has a stuck up his ass about "transphobia" when its really the one specific person who is shit bag that we hate.
Tom ya gotta a great voice. I was super shocked to hear how young you actually are. Also top tier shit talking with destiny and null. It’s great content and you have a good reasonable attitude toward stuff. All in all super impressive.
@@oedipuslaius7793 yea hes been making vids for years, he sounds pubescent in his oldest ones. and leafy was an edgy youtuber who just hated on everyone and had a similar jaded attitude to tom. i cant believe people r just now finding him tbh
What gorilla grip egirl pussy does to a motherfucking chigga
@@ZapparoniWorks I don't think it's just demonetisation. I think it's because people change over time. The longer you watch a TH-camr, over time they will grow and their opinions and views will shift. So eventually if you aren't experiencing the same things your views are going to be at least a little different because they are based on different experience. The problem is the human mind is resistant to change on a cognitive level. But I do agree sort of, in that I think random online peoples words aren't as likely to come back to haunt them. So to a degree that does inform how you express your opinions. But I do think mostly it's just Tom's personal views shifting over time.
This whole back-and-forth feels pointless. Keffals is a waste of time and energy, and will never relent to any points that paint them in a bad light. It doesn't matter what the truth actually is. They are always going to deflect. Just let them fade into irrelevancy, I'm begging you.
Agreed. You can’t apply logic to someone who is incapable of registering it. It’s all ridiculous and the attention needs to be starved of oxygen like a helium balloon in out in the cold.
So with Chloe Segal, prior to her end she tweeted about Brianna Wu. Another Keffals supporter. Chloe blamed Brianna for putting her in the spotlight and when Chloe got harassment for the article Brianna wrote about her, Brianna ignored Chloe. If you Google Chloe Segal and Brianna Wu you can see the screenshots of the thread. Chloe seemed to be blaming Brianna and MM for putting her in the position to be harassed and then leaving her to fend for herself.
She made many money from the whole media circus which is an undeniable W for her but she seems to have alienated what little of her fanbase that weren't bots
He's gonna pull an iDubbbz and try to sterilize/sanitize his channel, and pretend to not understand what kind of audience he has cultivated. This happens to every youtuber as they develop a larger audience.
I kind of respect you Tom. But the fact that you didn't even mention the catboy ranch allegations or any proper grooming allegations is pretty pathetic.
@@toddpacker4683 and I also say get your money up not your funny up. "Erm there's no peer reviewed studies of-" God told me she was a predator so yeah+ ratio+ you are grogleplinkin
keffals is such is liar that its unreal. The way she dodges the ben collins donation allegations was insanely funny "ben collins was a chatter's deadname" lmfao.
Before I'll accept Transwomen competing with Ciswomen, I'd like to see the first Transmale athlete make it into professionally cismale sports. It won't happen. Women and Men don't compete against one another for a reason. So yes, I'll be that person, they should be Segregated, as they already are between the genders, because FAIR COMPETITION is the point. If there are enough Transwomen to make two teams, let them play to their heart's content. Allowing Transwomen to compete is oppressive to Ciswomen. You want to talk fairness, talk about it from both sides.
Disliking one person for who they are personally doesn’t mean you dislike an entire demographic for sharing similar intrinsic characteristics. Keffals conflates this often and accuses people who dislike her of being transphobic, but they just don’t like Keffals. Nothing to do with hating all transgender people.
The internet not only never forgets...it archives & back-ups tend to get made (Always hilarious when they think it's all scrubbed/they are "safe"... prolly the only time even *remotely* genuine "Huh?"s & "What?"s are ever produced at all, IMHO) ~
Pathological liar usually means someone who instinctively lies no matter the context or benefit. I don’t know enough abt keffals to say she is a pathological. I would say she’s at least a serial liar
Tom has essentially proved the Trans argument that you can become a real women. Kef not being able to take responsibility for her actions and not being able to remember specific events when it convenient to her, reminds me alot of Amber Heard.
Why are you people this stupid? Dude is allowed to have his own beliefs and doesn't want to immediately get nuked off TH-cam. Ya'll are bitching about him not being blatantly transphobic like that's ever going to help his channels.
@@ducciboi yeah like banning people in twitch/yt chat to preserve channel and maintain the community isn't "anti freedom of speech". that doesn't apply to everything like sorry your favorite youtuber isnt a transphobe lmao
I was listening to this at work and I had to keep checking to make sure it was still playing when that idiot was talking about of the 20-30 straight seconds of dead air.
All the transphobia in the comments… I made a big mistake looking at them. Hate Keffals all you want but you absolutely do not get to paint all trans people with the same brush. She doesn’t represent us. Maybe instead of assuming the worst about the trans community, try talking to someone who identifies as transgender or non-binary. It might help a little!
We know she does not but people hooked onto her like she was and now they are feeling the burn of being used. If you did some research youd know that. Gonna have to live with the reality that not everyone is going to do what you want, its just the way it is and im not saying its ok. That goes with whatever title you want
Totaly agree. On this aspect. I like how Tom was very respectful about this. And I think that the excess of hate towards a community divides. People are over seeing the fact that the issue is that equality is very important. But weaponizing equality always ends badly. So it is sad to see the overwhelming amount of trans hate.
Turkey Tom is proof that being a centrist doesn't work. Being a centrist is just a way of saying you're deliberately complacent, and look where that gets us. Look at this comment section. Taking the stance of "I won't push back on things" WILL attract bad actors.
That's not true. I am a centrist, but I absolutely REFUSE to call a dude in drag/make-up & surgical mutilations a woman. A true Centrist pushes back when either side goes too far. AFAIK, there is no centrist tenet stating you just have to accept what EVERYONE says... ...& if someone said I had to, my reply would be "FYMM"~
That's AWEFUL & absolutely *REPREHENSIBLE* ...a full-on dude just beating the ever-loving schnikt out of a woman?!? You're SICK. I dunno what Destiny did to you, but we *ALL* know that's a stripper's name/keep Keffals & their Y-chromosomes AWAY from them~
Whats funny about Keffals hating KiwiFarms is that theres a site FAR WORSE than KiwiFarms that she actively refused to name & used to get KiwiFarms taken down. So she'll work & protect far worse than KiwiFarms but hate on KiwiFarms
@@walter7787 I know in destiny's stream he just refers to it as Website Zero. I've tried asking around on KF but never got an answer because I think they just don't want to mention it
From everything, I've watched/read about Keffals is that she is ignorant and will do anything for attention. She is not a naive person, she knows what she's doing. But she also knows that others knows this and now fmshe can't escape it. I could write an essay on keffals and everything about her.
"Respect pronouns" "intrensic" he is a man. That is the intrensic trait. Not his mental illness. And just because they demand you bend to them it shows that you absolutly shouldnt. Trying to be "nice" is how they have taken hold of the culture.
this. phuck pronouns. i call you what i see you as. if you tell me different its MY choice to comply. phuck off with that shit. respect is earned not given. (edited for youtube censorship)
The term, IIRC, is "enabling"... ...and it is universally agreed being an enabler is detrimental to the health of whomever you do it to & therefore one absolutely should NOT~
@@LoseMillion It's honestly only this video. Everywhere else Tom's community is really chill and respectful. That's rare to say for any creator, especially one that dabbles in politically charged content
I've always been of the mindset that as long as the person I'm talking to is decent towards me, I'll be decent back. I don't see any reason to purposefully misgender or deadname when you're talking to a trans person, even if you think differently than they do.
@@N0TYALCyeah keffels is piece of shit but why would you care? (edit: i mean care in the case of other people) most trans people are nice enough why would you go out pf your way to hurt them? is it that hard for you to use another name or pronoun? its their life not yours why do you care that much?
It's nuts how many people think they sold out just cuz they didn't call keffals a "he" or an "it" and didn't bring up things they can definitively prove and stated as much about it. Like seriously I get the anger about keffals but are you all 5 years old? Did you rage quit after the first use of "she" and then come back just to bitch in the comments?
I feel like these people are way more triggered from the pronouns than someone getting misgendered at this point. Shit is redundant to the point where it just detracts from the topic at hand. Plus Tom has some pretty solid reasons on keeping people from spamming slurs because he legit wants to keep his TH-cam channels up. These people desperately want Tom to be some kind of right leaning political figure.
The existence of a series of words doesn't mean shit. There is a basic level of respect and decency that society has decided everyone is entitled to. If I step on your toes I'm expected to apologize because I was at fault and you as a person deserve the respect and decency of an apology for the inconvenience. Whether or not pronouns fall under this is another question, but that phrase is a stupid reason to reject it.
@@AlextheRed1917 Are you seriously comparing accidentally hurting someone to "not using the right pronouns on someone?", it unironically shows how entitled and delusional you are.
I can’t believe Keffals goes after Tom, even when he was nothing but nice and polite. Talk about problematic! As for KF, they did not even talk about Keffals or knew who Keffals was until Keffals accused them of swatting. In my opinion, Keffals wants to cause unnecessary drama.
After 12 years and counting in the US military, I support countries like South Korea that has obligated military service. Force people to have face to face interactions with people that they wouldn’t be around, all of a sudden, they’re not so tough and a bit more understanding
To be clear, I’ve had debates with people I don’t agree with like one dude who supports the confederacy and the rebel flag from Alabama, and we told each other our sides and I don’t agree with his but we’re still good friends to this day 10 years later. Mind you I’m a Japanese American who had their grandmother in an internment camp in Hawaii during WWII.
@@renownedisland1 Trans vultures desperately turning on Lucas and consuming him to try to maintain the integrity of their groomer cult are even more disgusting than Lucas himself is.
Where you had a lot of great things to say, you followed certain things up with being mean for absolutely no reason other than it seems fun to you to do so. It made me lose respect for you in those moments, but I still respect you a great deal regardless. I just wanted you to know that it's possible to maintain your point and have powerful things to say, without making speculative comments. Overall you did a great job of responding to someone who is clearly delusional about your intentions. The point of this comment is to give clarity that making fun and speculation of someone's character is exactly how you end up with these types of people misunderstanding you.
I kind of understand why josh is so unabashedly transphobic, if you admit you disagree even slightly you're immediately on the recieving end of slander meaning you're immediately driven into the defensive if you believe trans people israel but shouldnt participate in womens' sport like destiny, they'll immediately slander you and the issue (trans people in womens sport) will never be discussed whereas if you're hostile from the start, you can actually have the opportunity to explain why you disagree
Tom didn't even say nothing controversial on the first video... Keffals is absolutely starving for relevancy
Keffals tries to spur the pot... so its usually better to ignore her, since if you react to her, she basically gets what she wants...
@@Blizz3112 you could says he spergs the pot
And Tom gave it to him free
goated pfp
Trans moment
Would love to see more internet personalities employ the Keffals defense of just going "Huh? What?" and then not elaborating or refuting anything at all. lol
I have no idea how people watch him on normal speed for more than 5 min..
The "wwUT" got so annoying
I love how keffals accused turkey tom of dodging because he wouldn't immediately start a convo with her at an inconvenient time, but dodged when turkey tom lightly criticises her for her terrible behaviour. She really is a pathological liar. She can't even be truthful on accident. Truly just a bad person
Her :bruh:
>her
He*
@GayPrideTransPride your name and your comment don't seem to align
@@SynthGirl64 Oh they do
Man. Every time I hear a rebuttal about Keffals I get so frustrated. They just keep denying direct evidence and lying. Keffals drives me freaking insane.
They tried for decades to get Ted Bundy to admit guilt and he still resisted. Even after confessing his crimes he still danced around it and avoided saying certain things explicitly. You will never, ever get psychopath like Keffals to internalize their own guilt. They lack the capacity. They will cope and sneed to the grave.
@𖤐Alice Viens𖤐
>she
>her
@aliceviens7what do you mean nothing we can do. Null single handedly fought against her attempts for cloudfare to drop his site. And was able to get the farms rehosted and built his own ddos protection from scratch so that he can’t just get dropped again so easily. Just giving up and handing a lunitic the W is never an option.
@@ChadMoggington ignoring her isn't the same thing as handing her a w. Her entire battle plan is growing on controversy, so that requires you to respond, and feed the troll. He already said to make a discrediting video that encompasses everything, and destroys everything she's trying to use to start some controversy, but then let it all die down, so she doesn't get any more attention after that.
@𖤐Alice Viens𖤐 I hate to say it but this is true. I almost reflexively rage clicked her video “the disturbing allegations against turkey tom” just so I could make fun of it and see what more pathological lying bullshit she was gonna pull out of her ass against him
Only to realize “wait thats exactly what she wants” and likely only titled it how she did to get angry-curious clicks from Tom fans
She thrives on this shit and shes barely able to maintain any scrap of viewership through her chronic victim complex that makes all her brainwashed fans think its “them vs us” when in reality its just Keffals vs herself and her own lies and manipulation being exposed to her face, and - of course - baiting anger views/clicks. Its a tale old as time and newspapers have been knowing and aware of this strategy for decades
Controlled opposition. Tom is a fed. Catboy Ranch is real.
Not funny and Tom is a chudlite gatekeepeer, actually
I could believe that Tom was a fed
I mean all of Toms mods will ban/mute you from chat just for saying “shut up Keffals”
I know that the opinion of Chicken Cuck on The Farms right now is 50/50
It’s not ok to be dishonest just because it’s against someone you don’t like. And no one said catboy ranch wasn’t real, that’s not the claim
Real
Segregation in sports is very normal. Men and women are segregated in sports because we wouldn't have any (at least very very few) women in professional sports
Even the lowest male athlete in any sport can beat the best women have. An unranked boxer beat the best female boxer, 15 year old high soccer players beat the Olympic gold medal female soccer team. The 400th male swimmer beat the best female swimmer. A trans volleyball player hospitalized three women. Etc etc etc.
It's delusional to think that trans women should be playing against biological and there's no edge. I'm just done.
Bigot
Keffals acting like a trans vigilante in the media but never hear much about her possible grooming allegations and CP? Aslo telling minors to use hormone pills in secret
the media would celebrate it anyway
@@Jon96101 that's honestly sad...what has western civilization come to
Yea, had this one chick on Instagram try and convince me that I should take hormones and that I would make “such a pretty girl” and it was...very uncomfortable
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца west has fallen.....
@@stuglife5514 ....okay wow....that's really uncomfortable, what the hell, our country banned that sort of stuff....heavy charges if you do something like that, and trying to reassign gender....
The thing about Keffals that I hate is that she is selectively edgy, I also notice that with other breadtubers or leftists. Only they can use slurs or edgy jokes for their ideological enemies but when their enemies even think about fighting back, they start whining and ask their whole audience to flag the “offensive bigots”.
If she can make fun of people’s situations and insult their character, it’s only fair we can do the same to her.
Nope sorry. You can't do that. Trans people can do absolutely no wrong and anything you say that goes against them in any way should land you in Guantanamo Bay
Thata not a leftist problem dude. That's a people problem, done on the right too
@@TheJrericktrue but breadtubers just typically have a smug and righteous attitude that makes it WAY more annoying than the right
The absolute most irritating thing about Keffals is how indignant she is
@Lachlan Thompson ZASED! TTD IS COMING!
@Lachlan Thompson Why whenever someone feels the need to do this do they look like they spend 99% of their free time looking at cp?
@@Dayman420wtf is he saying initially for you to respond an even more confusing reply
*it
>she
I wonder how many of keffals fans went into Tom's chat to post transphobic stuff, just so keffals can point and say "see, they're not worth listening to"...
well there were a few out of pocket comments on some of the videos that were transphobic however tom literally denounced this, so keffals point is just irrelevant
All their arguments are muh transphobia
@@vaporghoul yea but thats the whole keffals playbook really
@@vaporghoul Denouncing sane people to keep insane people happy isn't a smart move in the long term.
Woah, paranoid much? Watch those precious bodily fluids.
"I have said way too many things"
Literally said nothing but "WHAT" "NO" "FANFIC"
very measured response to 'Queen Keffahls," hit all the main issues with her lying about the drop kiwi farms drama without going into the DIY HRT Directory
I think the #1 thing we can learn from this is that Keffals is just somebody with the mind of a child.
I used to feel sorry for her. She's like Vaush to me. Both can be do good things, but are too narcissistic that they make things worse.
Child predator more like.
Like all trans "people"
Can't believe Chicken Chase sold out and went against his chat for all this.
that thumbnail is enough of a response
She looks like the guy from Final Destination 5 that died in the message parlor 💀
@@mrcrustnasty3574 i wonder why that is
@Jeff Is that the one with the chick who gets zapped repeatedly by a malfunctioning laser eye surgery machine only to stumble out the window to the ground below where she gets run over by a speeding motorist? Yeah, I still get shivers down my spine from that particular scene, just sayin’. 😱
@@Jolis_Parsec yes that's the one
@Jack Wrath you have one video and no links to other content
Null was right, as always
Always right
Always wins
Someone should ask Null if he's been keeping up with the hurtcore scene lately. Wonder what his response would be.
People like Keffals piss me off so much because so many people assume in just like her as soon as they find out in gay…Im a regular gay man, born a male, I live a regular life and I genuinely don’t care what you think of me as long as you don’t mean any harm.
You know what happens when people tell me stuff that makes me uncomfortable? I process it and then go about my life. I don’t try to silence people just because they do/say stuff I don’t like.
Ugh people like Keffals just make that impossible
I'm gay* I'm just*
Based and freedom pilled
LGB without the T
same here
based,
the constant, “what????” from her is so funny
her?
@@mirror8519 now now - don’t do that
Who's this "her" everyone is talking about? This was just drama between two male humans.
@@carlchronicles *annoying
Also yeah there’s so much shit you can say about her, misgendering her is a waste of time.
Misgendering keffals is to call him a she, that's just not reality bro
Seems like a she to me 🤷🏻♂️
You were charitable with her but people like her you cant give an inch.
They have to walk on eggshells because she’s trans it’s infuriating
@@Ian00003 they don’t have to but tom was under the impression that she was a good person which with destiny video it is proven she not and giving the benefit of the doubt to her was a poor choice.
>She
>Her
Ironic comment tbh, you're already playing his game
@@RadioEnnui nah it just make it so the comment is not deleted since Tom has a stuck up his ass about "transphobia" when its really the one specific person who is shit bag that we hate.
"her"
Tom, you literally message me personally everyday and ask that I leave your videos on play in the background even when Im not home.
so bow to master tom and dew it
@@Delta30343 ^^^ =P
Tom ya gotta a great voice. I was super shocked to hear how young you actually are. Also top tier shit talking with destiny and null. It’s great content and you have a good reasonable attitude toward stuff. All in all super impressive.
lol it was obvious in his videos from years ago when he made fun of animation youtubers like a 16 year old leafy
@@Corasz yeah but im an adult and i only know tom from vauge destiny associations, frankly i dont even know who leafy is
@@oedipuslaius7793 yea hes been making vids for years, he sounds pubescent in his oldest ones. and leafy was an edgy youtuber who just hated on everyone and had a similar jaded attitude to tom. i cant believe people r just now finding him tbh
Imagine breaking your back to accommodate t people when they bullied your girlfriend off of Twitter.
No need to sink to their level we can be better than them by not being complete assholes
LMFAO IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT
What gorilla grip egirl pussy does to a motherfucking chigga
@@biblical_figure Turkey Tom Lore???
These people are insane, if I were tom I would not touch these topics with a 100ft poll. It's just inviting harrasment and insanity into your life.
i feel like toms stream chat is like on a completely seperate wavelength to tom himself
Chat doesn't have to worry about being demonetized and can actually say what it thinks.
@@ZapparoniWorks I don't think it's just demonetisation. I think it's because people change over time. The longer you watch a TH-camr, over time they will grow and their opinions and views will shift. So eventually if you aren't experiencing the same things your views are going to be at least a little different because they are based on different experience. The problem is the human mind is resistant to change on a cognitive level.
But I do agree sort of, in that I think random online peoples words aren't as likely to come back to haunt them. So to a degree that does inform how you express your opinions. But I do think mostly it's just Tom's personal views shifting over time.
@@Incrementium Literally what
@@Incrementium what you said is so off mark that it's hilarious you thought this novel of a response was accurate
@@ZapparoniWorks naw chats are always like this.
This whole back-and-forth feels pointless. Keffals is a waste of time and energy, and will never relent to any points that paint them in a bad light. It doesn't matter what the truth actually is. They are always going to deflect. Just let them fade into irrelevancy, I'm begging you.
You can't save Keffals, but you can probably save some of his victims.
Agreed. You can’t apply logic to someone who is incapable of registering it.
It’s all ridiculous and the attention needs to be starved of oxygen like a helium balloon in out in the cold.
I dont think tom is doing this to save anyone just for our entertainment
@@ThatBlueSkull Out to save his own skin.
@@ZapparoniWorks What?
So with Chloe Segal, prior to her end she tweeted about Brianna Wu. Another Keffals supporter. Chloe blamed Brianna for putting her in the spotlight and when Chloe got harassment for the article Brianna wrote about her, Brianna ignored Chloe. If you Google Chloe Segal and Brianna Wu you can see the screenshots of the thread. Chloe seemed to be blaming Brianna and MM for putting her in the position to be harassed and then leaving her to fend for herself.
Chloe was sold the myth of Solidarity, and when it came time to collect she found out it was a lie.
3:00:25 "That's literally the CBC" I don't think citing a state-run propaganda outlet is the slam dunk she thinks it is lmao
ARE YOU GOING TO SAY "HER PROSTATE" AGAIN? SUCH A MAN OF TRUTH
what a freakin joke turkey is. smh can't even get keffals to acknowledge he is a male.
Keffals always taking a major L
She made many money from the whole media circus which is an undeniable W for her but she seems to have alienated what little of her fanbase that weren't bots
@@spookwagen-thegreat1350 >she
@@spookwagen-thegreat1350 He
Tom does has an amazing voice.
Agree lol, You have an amazing profile picture =P
Yeah I gotta say I dig the pfp as well :p
Can’t believe Tom is streaming with Milo
Wait that's milo gay milo?
THE milo?
I love the thumbnail lmao just the angle presenting the male jawline juxtaposed to the attempt to appear feminine which results in an uncanny image
Underrated comment
@@meltedWax169 The system is rigged, perverts like Keffals are famous. Yet me, a modern Machiavelli is but a man in a ditch.
I dont see anything femmine in the thumbnail just looks like a fat italian man to me
@@ThatBlueSkull why do you think I said attempt
@@goon5757 All i am saying is i couldn't even see the attempt is all
I love how this 40 year old is arguing with 20 year old Tom and losing.
Oh Keffals understands she just doesn't want to take accountability for her actions.
>she
>her
@@RadioEnnui >It
>Groomer
are better pronouns in my opinon
>she
@@Theosake To be fair I don't think he's trying to. Nobody can truly replace Jim or fill the holes in our lives he left.
I miss him so much.
that's a man
That voice is like nails scraping on a chalkboard
God i know
@@Donuts8 she's Canadian my dude 😐
@@Donuts8 But they deserve it.
I wonder why that is
@@Donuts8 she's a leaftard from birth
Idk why Tom is surprised his chat is edgy lol
@@cdollar67 I blame him.
Turkey "I'm a big n.gger" Tom is surprised his chat is edgy?
He's gonna pull an iDubbbz and try to sterilize/sanitize his channel, and pretend to not understand what kind of audience he has cultivated. This happens to every youtuber as they develop a larger audience.
I don't think he is surprised, he just doesn't agree with some of their opinions. That's how I read it anyway.
@@Incrementium thats what it is these people are either trolls are actually braindead. Most likely both tho.
Tom boutta be a victim of cat boy gay psyop
So America First is coming for him?
@@spookwagen-thegreat1350yeah the nationalists are looking femboys for their recruitment campaign
I kind of respect you Tom. But the fact that you didn't even mention the catboy ranch allegations or any proper grooming allegations is pretty pathetic.
There’s no good evidence for that flamenco
@@toddpacker4683 being involved with selling hormones to minors is something Keffals has openly admitted to doing.
@@jeffleffbridge7513 I don't know if selling diy hormones counts as grooming
@@jeffleffbridge7513 that’s not what they said, they said the catboy ranch grooming
@@toddpacker4683 and I also say get your money up not your funny up. "Erm there's no peer reviewed studies of-" God told me she was a predator so yeah+ ratio+ you are grogleplinkin
@07:09 good call man. Ty for keeping stuff chill. Love your content.
keffals is such is liar that its unreal. The way she dodges the ben collins donation allegations was insanely funny "ben collins was a chatter's deadname" lmfao.
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Yes yes i know i don't want tom to get into trouble
@@ilordepic you should worry more about yourself, do you think keffals is a woman? If so you are gay.
Before I'll accept Transwomen competing with Ciswomen, I'd like to see the first Transmale athlete make it into professionally cismale sports. It won't happen. Women and Men don't compete against one another for a reason. So yes, I'll be that person, they should be Segregated, as they already are between the genders, because FAIR COMPETITION is the point. If there are enough Transwomen to make two teams, let them play to their heart's content. Allowing Transwomen to compete is oppressive to Ciswomen. You want to talk fairness, talk about it from both sides.
As a trans person, I completely agree.
>she
>her
Currency collapsing, geopolitical upheaval and here we are arguing about boys and girls.
...have we at LEAST figured out the bathrooms yet?!?...
(It's chili-night & unisex HAS existed for *QUITE* some time, guys - just saying)~
Thank you for making this into a vid, I look forward to watching it!
I appreciate Tom going out of he's way to make he's community better
She fuckin just sweeps it under the rug after watching lmao
Disliking one person for who they are personally doesn’t mean you dislike an entire demographic for sharing similar intrinsic characteristics. Keffals conflates this often and accuses people who dislike her of being transphobic, but they just don’t like Keffals. Nothing to do with hating all transgender people.
sane people do dislike all of them though.
nah@@cozysighspool
@@2FadeMusic sorry but they're disgusting mutilated men, and 90% are waiting to mess with kids
@@cozysighspoolseek help man. You bloody need it
She seems to be unaware the internet never forgets
>she
*he
The internet not only never forgets...it archives & back-ups tend to get made
(Always hilarious when they think it's all scrubbed/they are "safe"... prolly the only time even *remotely* genuine "Huh?"s & "What?"s are ever produced at all, IMHO) ~
Pathological liar usually means someone who instinctively lies no matter the context or benefit. I don’t know enough abt keffals to say she is a pathological. I would say she’s at least a serial liar
As a Proud Anglophobe this guy is one of the good ones
Cringe
23:37 keffals is sooo the type to pronounce "supposedly" as "supposebly"
Tom has essentially proved the Trans argument that you can become a real women. Kef not being able to take responsibility for her actions and not being able to remember specific events when it convenient to her, reminds me alot of Amber Heard.
Keffles fears the tomboys
At this point, it’s EXTREMELY clear that she’s a compulsive liar
also not a she
The fact that he calls himself a "she" probably should have clued you in. His core identity is a compulsive lie.
*him, he's a biological male. there is no need to go abide by his trashy rules. you're only fueling the mental illness...
"Can't stop, won't stop"
-(Keffels on lying)
you're playing a dangerous game with this vile person. this person is pure evil and will try to destroy you too
not really. keffals is pretty irrelevant now
@@mirror8519 kiwifarms is pure evil, keffals isn't
@@RainbowRenegade Bad b8
Keffals is a bully
I thought you were above needless censorship of people's opinions
Why are you people this stupid? Dude is allowed to have his own beliefs and doesn't want to immediately get nuked off TH-cam. Ya'll are bitching about him not being blatantly transphobic like that's ever going to help his channels.
@@ducciboi yeah like banning people in twitch/yt chat to preserve channel and maintain the community isn't "anti freedom of speech". that doesn't apply to everything like sorry your favorite youtuber isnt a transphobe lmao
@@vaporghoul Keffals will never be a woman
@@vaporghoul Yes it is.
I was listening to this at work and I had to keep checking to make sure it was still playing when that idiot was talking about of the 20-30 straight seconds of dead air.
Irrelevant to the main conversation but i love how he derailed and pulled up the goofy trial from FF 😭💀
She loves saying things and “forgetting” her past actions
He*
Turkey you shouldnt said anything. You’re making her have a inch of clout. She needs to be irrelevant
>her
Bro I don't like keffals either but no fuckin way I'm listening to all of that
Yea of it was like the og vid i whould but this shit is atusic
Not me trying to be quiet as Tom yells when someone in chat says his audio was quiet 😭😭😭
Christian weston chandler 2.0
Nah Chris Chan is actually a funny and entertaining lolcow. (As well as he is not all malice unlike Keffals who's just human cyanide)
@@spookwagen-thegreat1350 Chris has the capacity to feel shame and the abstract desire to be a good person, though he isn't very good at it.
All the transphobia in the comments… I made a big mistake looking at them. Hate Keffals all you want but you absolutely do not get to paint all trans people with the same brush. She doesn’t represent us. Maybe instead of assuming the worst about the trans community, try talking to someone who identifies as transgender or non-binary. It might help a little!
We know she does not but people hooked onto her like she was and now they are feeling the burn of being used. If you did some research youd know that. Gonna have to live with the reality that not everyone is going to do what you want, its just the way it is and im not saying its ok. That goes with whatever title you want
Totaly agree. On this aspect. I like how Tom was very respectful about this. And I think that the excess of hate towards a community divides. People are over seeing the fact that the issue is that equality is very important. But weaponizing equality always ends badly. So it is sad to see the overwhelming amount of trans hate.
Turkey Tom is proof that being a centrist doesn't work. Being a centrist is just a way of saying you're deliberately complacent, and look where that gets us. Look at this comment section. Taking the stance of "I won't push back on things" WILL attract bad actors.
That's not true.
I am a centrist, but I absolutely REFUSE to call a dude in drag/make-up & surgical mutilations a woman.
A true Centrist pushes back when either side goes too far.
AFAIK, there is no centrist tenet stating you just have to accept what EVERYONE says...
...& if someone said I had to, my reply would be "FYMM"~
"FYMM" = "F* You, MAKE Me" BTW~
This person really existing in 0.25 speed man damn
Tom I literally cant keep up
Destiny and keffals should box
That's AWEFUL & absolutely *REPREHENSIBLE* ...a full-on dude just beating the ever-loving schnikt out of a woman?!?
You're SICK.
I dunno what Destiny did to you, but we *ALL* know that's a stripper's name/keep Keffals & their Y-chromosomes AWAY from them~
It's harder for lunatics to kick you in the face if you stop kneeling for a second
Good thing tom is an internet celebrity! Lunatics be looking up at him!
@@cloudzack1090 I agree, definitely not a spineless dancing monkey
@@cloudzack1090 Bruh, hobos living in their own shit look down on e-celebs.
Tom sounds like Clyde from South Park.
I love how Keffals calls people ‘bad faith’ one sentence after claiming she made a tweet only to piss people off. God what a snot rag
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Tom the type of guy to respond to a response
Metokurs stream was absolutely great xD
Whats funny about Keffals hating KiwiFarms is that theres a site FAR WORSE than KiwiFarms that she actively refused to name & used to get KiwiFarms taken down. So she'll work & protect far worse than KiwiFarms but hate on KiwiFarms
What is it?
@@walter7787 I know in destiny's stream he just refers to it as Website Zero. I've tried asking around on KF but never got an answer because I think they just don't want to mention it
keffals DOES know that discord has a do not disturb mode right?
From everything, I've watched/read about Keffals is that she is ignorant and will do anything for attention. She is not a naive person, she knows what she's doing. But she also knows that others knows this and now fmshe can't escape it. I could write an essay on keffals and everything about her.
"she" lol, that's a man
@@cozysighspoolWho? Tom? All I see is a girl talking to him
@@squirrel_disaster the beast known as keffals is a 200lb mutilated mentally ill man, and if you make posts like that one, you probably are too
Tom is edgy and honest but not a bigot. Major props for standing up for us trans people by refusing to misgender ❤
Trans "people"
Tom made his character look like neco-arc
"Respect pronouns" "intrensic" he is a man. That is the intrensic trait. Not his mental illness. And just because they demand you bend to them it shows that you absolutly shouldnt. Trying to be "nice" is how they have taken hold of the culture.
this. phuck pronouns. i call you what i see you as. if you tell me different its MY choice to comply. phuck off with that shit. respect is earned not given. (edited for youtube censorship)
The term, IIRC, is "enabling"...
...and it is universally agreed being an enabler is detrimental to the health of whomever you do it to & therefore one absolutely should NOT~
All the rightoid copium. Seethe and dilate because your "culture" has been around oppressing anyone that doesn't agree with you
@@guitubagrips9719 I hate how common they are in these comments. The're making this community look bad.
@@LoseMillion It's honestly only this video. Everywhere else Tom's community is really chill and respectful. That's rare to say for any creator, especially one that dabbles in politically charged content
ngl, surprised they aren't in prison by now
The criminal system in Canada is very lax with criminals (and quite harsh on law abiding citizens)
@@spookwagen-thegreat1350 indeed
A country in which words are punished more than the selling of ""DIY"" hormones to kids
Gotta love Chairman Trudeau
@@idaboi8378 To be fair Trudeau isn't all bad
He gave 100$ in climate incentives (too bad im spending all of it on gas)
...well that explains all our sitting Senate, Legislators & Politicians, past & present - future as well, no doubt...
I've always been of the mindset that as long as the person I'm talking to is decent towards me, I'll be decent back. I don't see any reason to purposefully misgender or deadname when you're talking to a trans person, even if you think differently than they do.
If an adult was being nice to you and acting like they had an imaginary friend, would you play along?
Lucas is an objectively terrible person, tho?
@@N0TYALCyeah keffels is piece of shit but why would you care? (edit: i mean care in the case of other people)
most trans people are nice enough why would you go out pf your way to hurt them?
is it that hard for you to use another name or pronoun?
its their life not yours why do you care that much?
That hypothetical that destiny uses doesn’t really work for what he’s trying to argue.
It's nuts how many people think they sold out just cuz they didn't call keffals a "he" or an "it" and didn't bring up things they can definitively prove and stated as much about it. Like seriously I get the anger about keffals but are you all 5 years old? Did you rage quit after the first use of "she" and then come back just to bitch in the comments?
I feel like these people are way more triggered from the pronouns than someone getting misgendered at this point. Shit is redundant to the point where it just detracts from the topic at hand. Plus Tom has some pretty solid reasons on keeping people from spamming slurs because he legit wants to keep his TH-cam channels up. These people desperately want Tom to be some kind of right leaning political figure.
We are simply not willing to tolerate it.
@@ducciboi That is not a solid reason, it is a corrupt one.
Keffals and Sneako are literally the same person
For the record, it’s a dude.
you are a woman
listening too kef is feels like stabbing my ears with kitchen knives.
The LGBT seem to forget that the phrase "respect is earned, not given" exists.
The right seems to forget that they've never shown respect by committing hate crimes and removing rights for lgbtq
The existence of a series of words doesn't mean shit. There is a basic level of respect and decency that society has decided everyone is entitled to. If I step on your toes I'm expected to apologize because I was at fault and you as a person deserve the respect and decency of an apology for the inconvenience. Whether or not pronouns fall under this is another question, but that phrase is a stupid reason to reject it.
@@AlextheRed1917 Are you seriously comparing accidentally hurting someone to "not using the right pronouns on someone?", it unironically shows how entitled and delusional you are.
I can’t believe Keffals goes after Tom, even when he was nothing but nice and polite. Talk about problematic! As for KF, they did not even talk about Keffals or knew who Keffals was until Keffals accused them of swatting. In my opinion, Keffals wants to cause unnecessary drama.
After 12 years and counting in the US military, I support countries like South Korea that has obligated military service. Force people to have face to face interactions with people that they wouldn’t be around, all of a sudden, they’re not so tough and a bit more understanding
To be clear, I’ve had debates with people I don’t agree with like one dude who supports the confederacy and the rebel flag from Alabama, and we told each other our sides and I don’t agree with his but we’re still good friends to this day 10 years later. Mind you I’m a Japanese American who had their grandmother in an internment camp in Hawaii during WWII.
Ok
I'm trans myself, dude thank fucking god someone is finally calling Keffals on their shit
As if your shit is any cleaner.
cope seethe
@@renownedisland1 Trans vultures desperately turning on Lucas and consuming him to try to maintain the integrity of their groomer cult are even more disgusting than Lucas himself is.
@@ZapparoniWorks cope seethe
@@renownedisland1 See how the trannoid's mind totally breaks when encountering someone who does not pander to him.
Summary of Keffals entire response video: "What?"
respecting people's identities even when you don't like them is based
Respecting identities that are not true is delusional and not based.
its a delusion. not their identity.
@@brolybroly4485 Identifying as something you are not used to be called "lying."
I wish this didn't seem like such a hot take in this comment section. Baseline levels of respect for human beings should be normal
@@shadic971 There is no minimum level of respect for human beings, they can go to zero or even lower.
Terminally online dorks especially keffals
the less I look at the chat the more braincells I regain
Where you had a lot of great things to say, you followed certain things up with being mean for absolutely no reason other than it seems fun to you to do so. It made me lose respect for you in those moments, but I still respect you a great deal regardless. I just wanted you to know that it's possible to maintain your point and have powerful things to say, without making speculative comments.
Overall you did a great job of responding to someone who is clearly delusional about your intentions. The point of this comment is to give clarity that making fun and speculation of someone's character is exactly how you end up with these types of people misunderstanding you.
I kind of understand why josh is so unabashedly transphobic, if you admit you disagree even slightly you're immediately on the recieving end of slander
meaning you're immediately driven into the defensive
if you believe trans people israel but shouldnt participate in womens' sport like destiny, they'll immediately slander you and the issue (trans people in womens sport) will never be discussed
whereas if you're hostile from the start, you can actually have the opportunity to explain why you disagree
Thats really just the internet. Anything you say will get ripped the fuck apart. Say you like pancakes and mfs will have your head on a spike.
Turkey Tom reacts to keffals reacting to turkey tom reacting to keffals
This is what we mean when we say "react harder"
I've lost some respect for Tom for not being transphobic
Trans people living in your head rent free
@@DynamoLynx like half of them don't live though, which is funny and good
@@cozysighspoolyou really gotta get out and meet some people