Out of guilt because of the last catastrophe😂😂😂but it is ridiculous to keep blaming germany, not oncecdid they lose a fair fight, the cowards are laugging now
They didn’t have the colonists still hanging on to old assets. Most were of the SE Asian and central Asian countries either got full independence or some sort of government oversight by the west. Africa has only just started (by comparison of time) to boot out the western countries and their business assets. Plus Africa actually has massive natural resources that are used by first world countries. Or the west. 😮💨 😂
The Berlin Conference made it "okay" and justifiable for these European nations to colonize all of Africa, so inevitably everyone wanted a fair share, Signed by United Kingdom, France, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, the United States of America, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Sweden-Norway, and Turkey (Ottoman Empire). The arbitrary drawing of borders during the Berlin Conference remains a source of political instability in Africa.
How about the other influences in Africa? Is the British and Frensh influence not more prominent, and should it not be considered? Why focus on the German influence?
Germany is where the conference was held. They pretty much say it in the interview. But all of the European and western countries that had stakes in Africa have either lost that control or have willingly withdrawn from those territories. So I figured there was no reason to bring it up.
This is something that European leaders have to acknowledge and make peace with because most African people and governments distrust the European Union meddling in their business even if those European countries have good intentions to create great relationships with African countries that's why they're turning to China 🇨🇳.
They’re already on their way. They just have to stop all this waring amongst themselves. I would love to see a fully united Africa in my day but there’s a lot of trauma they have to deal with
Best reparations would be for the EU to alleviate the sufferings that cause so many to leave their homes. Undeniably a historical wrong, looked at through our eyes today.140 years ago is a different matter. It is the nature of man - man's inhumanity to man. We must learn from the past and put a stop to these wars
“Understand” is a weird word to use here. It almost suggests that Germany is an innocent victim just trying to understand why Africa is mad. You’d think the direct perpetrator of a crime would clearly understand what they have done. But nope, the denial is deep.
African leaders must become less corrupt, they were selling their own people to slavery 300 years ago, and now they are stealing the funds from their own people...
Don't forget German colonial criminals massacred millions of Namibians without any apology or compensation yet they're forcing Africa to support them to defend American useless democracy in Ukraine Absolutely nonsense😡
Yeah this is an important issue, so is the war in Ukraine. Defending democracy is just as important as remembering what happened in Africa during colonialism.
We blame Germany on many things but as former coloniser to Rwanda I was not that bad as they had very big development projects. It was bad that Germany lost and Rwanda was given to evil Belgium. Belgium is the master of all evils considering how many Congolese killed by King Leopard and division,hate, discrimination, that resulted in Genocide,wars,civil unrest in African great lakes (DR Congo,Rwanda and Burundi) shame to Belgium!
Well of course. Africans didn't invent the gun or gun powder so there's that. But it's doing alright. You gotta remember the population of Africa was still rather small in it's interior
The Berlin Conference established the legal claim by Europeans that all of Africa could be occupied by whomever could take it. It also established a process for Europeans to cooperate rather than fight with each other. This cooperation played a huge role in the division and conquest of Africa.
without the berlin conference, africa would have been the cause of wars between european powers competing over colonies in africa the berlin conference really had less to do with africa and more about maintaining peace in europe
How was islam spread in Africa? Was it europeans? Why not to blame arab countries? The guy talked about borders and ethnic groups. Does he mean ethnic groups are enemies? Why to blame Europe and not the ethnic groups who could make new borders?
Isn't it strange that the African countries themselves that had and still have these straight borders 50+ years later after independence, still have not rectified the ethnic/tribal divisions and still have these straight dividing lines. So maybe it is in the interest of these African countries to have straight borders. Nor those large African countries with many ethnic groups have allowed their 'allo-ethnic' parts of their territories to secede / become countries of their own right; especially not peacefully. So again it is the African countries that have been seeing a benefit in keeping these. I don't buy into the presenter's argument about these.
The issue is the ensuing civil wars that would emerge and the migrations from the wars that would hit not just North Africa but Europe would be catastrophic. Africa's population has grown since the colonial era. And trying to redefine borders is not easy, look at the Middle East for that. People have made homes in their current locations with all that entails.
Germany has a long and “bloody” history in Africa and it needs to own its past accordingly. Africa is an incredible and diverse continent that deserves respect and dignity! Let’s be an example for the rest and own our past here and move on. We owe to the people of Africa!
Could you please tell me how "long" germany's history in Africa was?🤔 I was under the impression that it only started after Bismarck and ended with WW1. That would make it last shorter than a high-quality car.
i mean in the 1880s i really doubt any of the african "nations" were even capable of engaging in diplomacy with any of the european powers did the african "nations" even have diplomats capable of travelling to europe?
"No Africa leader was there", wait a minute 😂is this guy serious? Does Murderers and thieves call you to attend to hear what they are going to do to you? 😅this is news reporting on another dumb level.
Sounds like a skill issue to me. The Europeans wouldn't have colonized Africa if the Europeans weren't already ahead. Sub-Saharan Africa didn't even have the wheel before it got colonized.
Does the skill issue apply in the same way when one European country invades another European country similar to what’s going on there at this very moment?
Rememberance around Europe and colonialism is too one-sided. I am happy to teach my kids about history and crimes during colonial rule. But then I wil also teach them things like the Haber-Bosch process, fertilizers and machinery, which have allowed africa's and the world's population to explode. If you teach history one-sided, people in africa and similar will somehow get the impression that we owe them something.
Let`s not forget about the huge german legacy that was left behind back in latin America on early 1820`s.. yeah fellas, 19th century and still Germany don`t want to take part of it and don`t help them how they deserve, only if there will be reasons to explore the Germans Latins then yeah, of course they will be interest to "help" them
Never mind the Berlin Conference...we have the German government actively complicit in yet another historic catastrophes right now!
Don't forget the Nama and Herero Genocide and Holocaust in Namibia
Your right We must Help Israel we will Not be remembered Like Chamberlain
Those people they repeat everything that was done by their ancestors
Out of guilt because of the last catastrophe😂😂😂but it is ridiculous to keep blaming germany, not oncecdid they lose a fair fight, the cowards are laugging now
it sounds like germany is almost at the centre of all historic wrongs
A founding member state of the Three Wise Monkeys colonial alliance.
Why did SE Asian nations managed their post independence far better than African and Arab nations ?
Because you didn't enslaved them for 400 years you did to Africans.,
No western sponsored coups, no minerals no origins of mankind 😊
They didn’t have the colonists still hanging on to old assets. Most were of the SE Asian and central Asian countries either got full independence or some sort of government oversight by the west. Africa has only just started (by comparison of time) to boot out the western countries and their business assets. Plus Africa actually has massive natural resources that are used by first world countries. Or the west.
😮💨 😂
Democracy
They did not enslaved by.... for 400 years.
Africa's efforts to understand its misery..
The Berlin Conference made it "okay" and justifiable for these European nations to colonize all of Africa, so inevitably everyone wanted a fair share, Signed by United Kingdom, France, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, the United States of America, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Sweden-Norway, and Turkey (Ottoman Empire). The arbitrary drawing of borders during the Berlin Conference remains a source of political instability in Africa.
Yay someone has read a book or two. Some of these other comments show the lack of knowledge of history in western countries.
Russia & Turkey didn't participate.
You are foolish ., Russia never been part of such human crime!!!
How did people live in Africa 400 years ago?
Human rights?
Development?
Are europeans guilty for anything bad, even coups and wars?
How about the other influences in Africa? Is the British and Frensh influence not more prominent, and should it not be considered? Why focus on the German influence?
Isn’t this literally a German news channel? Probably why they’re focusing on Germany
.. and, do I have to fear, that my house will be raided, as of my post here?
germans can only work on german issues.
Germany is where the conference was held. They pretty much say it in the interview. But all of the European and western countries that had stakes in Africa have either lost that control or have willingly withdrawn from those territories. So I figured there was no reason to bring it up.
Don't plan another Berlin conference and you won't be raided. Lmao
This is something that European leaders have to acknowledge and make peace with because most African people and governments distrust the European Union meddling in their business even if those European countries have good intentions to create great relationships with African countries that's why they're turning to China 🇨🇳.
Africa will become superpower in the future. Just wait and see
first they have to figure out how to poop in the toilet
You don't know what is coming for the west just keep fooling yourselves @Gravitatis
They’re already on their way. They just have to stop all this waring amongst themselves. I would love to see a fully united Africa in my day but there’s a lot of trauma they have to deal with
@@Gravitatisthat’s India, Africans are pretty clean people
@@Rudenbehr
have you ever been to cameroon?
Best reparations would be for the EU to alleviate the sufferings that cause so many to leave their homes. Undeniably a historical wrong, looked at through our eyes today.140 years ago is a different matter. It is the nature of man - man's inhumanity to man. We must learn from the past and put a stop to these wars
Will they blame the Roman Empire, the Babylon, Geighis Khan?
Don't forget slavery, it was one of the worse impact on both the slave captives and the communities from which they were taken from.
“Understand” is a weird word to use here. It almost suggests that Germany is an innocent victim just trying to understand why Africa is mad. You’d think the direct perpetrator of a crime would clearly understand what they have done. But nope, the denial is deep.
What we Africans need now is looking forward and revisionist political dogma will not yield us a better outcome.
Correction, NOT the “so called”, it was a real scramble for Africa 😢
How can we move on when these racist colonial rules and laws are still in place, how can we move on???
African leaders must become less corrupt, they were selling their own people to slavery 300 years ago, and now they are stealing the funds from their own people...
african nations create their own laws
So nice to see German reporters employed by a German news channel.
Nice to see another NCEL commenting irrelevancy. classy NCL
Don't forget German colonial criminals massacred millions of Namibians without any apology or compensation yet they're forcing Africa to support them to defend American useless democracy in Ukraine Absolutely nonsense😡
Yeah this is an important issue, so is the war in Ukraine. Defending democracy is just as important as remembering what happened in Africa during colonialism.
The scramble for Palestine, Ukraine and Taiwan. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
We blame Germany on many things but as former coloniser to Rwanda I was not that bad as they had very big development projects. It was bad that Germany lost and Rwanda was given to evil Belgium. Belgium is the master of all evils considering how many Congolese killed by King Leopard and division,hate, discrimination, that resulted in Genocide,wars,civil unrest in African great lakes (DR Congo,Rwanda and Burundi) shame to Belgium!
Thanks for sharing, Germany
I mean @imvanotv106*
I'm surprised dw allowed this topic
Everyone tries to squeeze money out of Germany
Stop being on the wrong side.
Algeria 🇩🇿 support Palestine 🇵🇸
Germany 🇩🇪 support Israel 🇮🇱
Respect to Algeria 🇩🇿
Shame on Germany 🇩🇪
Shame on Iran and Algeria
shame on mankind
RIDICULOUS!
Netanyahu would be arrested if he stepped on german soil.
Are you all not watching the news?!!!
Africans had an over 100,000-year head start on civilization and still got conquered; maybe a better question would be why is that.
Well of course. Africans didn't invent the gun or gun powder so there's that. But it's doing alright. You gotta remember the population of Africa was still rather small in it's interior
Gun
Imaginary head start. Even if that’s true empires rise and fall. Europeans were also once in the dark ages
Why did Genghis Khan conquer China, or most of Europe?
😢Sellout...😢REPARATIONS ...✊🏿❤
Reparations now, but fair banking yes let unseen nations have opportunities to help their citizens
The Berlin Conference established the legal claim by Europeans that all of Africa could be occupied by whomever could take it. It also established a process for Europeans to cooperate rather than fight with each other. This cooperation played a huge role in the division and conquest of Africa.
without the berlin conference, africa would have been the cause of wars between european powers competing over colonies in africa
the berlin conference really had less to do with africa and more about maintaining peace in europe
How was islam spread in Africa?
Was it europeans?
Why not to blame arab countries?
The guy talked about borders and ethnic groups.
Does he mean ethnic groups are enemies?
Why to blame Europe and not the ethnic groups who could make new borders?
Shame
They still own the land they stole
DW really loves to blame Germany for everything possible.
dw is german.
Not blame, its putting a light on a issue
@@uhwakeTy. And apparently this guy doesn’t seem to know or understand how to put history in its context.
Because it has a lot to answer for, past and present
@@santichatterjee7284not as much as your Country
Is good to remind African viewers the German genocide in Namibia and the continuos occupation of the nativ lands in Namibia
Please also remember the Namibian genocide.
Dipo - i like your name be > > Faluyen . All 5 vowels in it . . . . . .
And they still asked why African come here 😅😅,, or why we allied with Russia or China..
Let me guess: reparationsss
mmmh open discussion
Isn't it strange that the African countries themselves that had and still have these straight borders 50+ years later after independence, still have not rectified the ethnic/tribal divisions and still have these straight dividing lines. So maybe it is in the interest of these African countries to have straight borders. Nor those large African countries with many ethnic groups have allowed their 'allo-ethnic' parts of their territories to secede / become countries of their own right; especially not peacefully. So again it is the African countries that have been seeing a benefit in keeping these. I don't buy into the presenter's argument about these.
The issue is the ensuing civil wars that would emerge and the migrations from the wars that would hit not just North Africa but Europe would be catastrophic. Africa's population has grown since the colonial era. And trying to redefine borders is not easy, look at the Middle East for that. People have made homes in their current locations with all that entails.
the three Cs
Namibia or European history is wicked cant reflect my history one love
Germany has a long and “bloody” history in Africa and it needs to own its past accordingly.
Africa is an incredible and diverse continent that deserves respect and dignity!
Let’s be an example for the rest and own our past here and move on.
We owe to the people of Africa!
Nonsense we owe them nothing they started it with carthige
@ there’s the Whataboutism I’ve been waiting for !!
Could you please tell me how "long" germany's history in Africa was?🤔
I was under the impression that it only started after Bismarck and ended with WW1. That would make it last shorter than a high-quality car.
@@johnfenechdoe3148Don't wait on useless comments by bots.
They are designed to give ridiculous answers.
@@johnfenechdoe3148No it isnt whataboutism where are my my reperations for what they did to Portugal and Spain for 800 years?
The scramble for Africa, China and Samoa. Economic profit-seeking business as usual.
legacy??? is genocie a legacy? please study your history well.
i mean in the 1880s i really doubt any of the african "nations" were even capable of engaging in diplomacy with any of the european powers
did the african "nations" even have diplomats capable of travelling to europe?
We will never know, will we.
ur ignorance will be very expensive for u.
@@bhekimzamo1505it’s called a book read one. Africa does have a history that’s not steeped in racisist ignorance.
Yes Africa has had delegates and royalty visit the European royalty. And embassy’s. And royal Europeans also visited Africas royalty and leaders.
@@clintonwashington8609 do not apologize urself. if he wants to be dumb, let him!
It is all about igbo biafrans! In easten part of so called Nigeria, and there brother the congolaise, or should i said, the bantus
"No Africa leader was there", wait a minute 😂is this guy serious? Does Murderers and thieves call you to attend to hear what they are going to do to you? 😅this is news reporting on another dumb level.
who cares about Africa? lmao
China for sure.
the world?
Who cares about you
China and Russia care about Africa. You will soon care about Africa as a person, watch and see.
Europe who colonized for Centuries.
😢🤨✊🏿💔
Sounds like a skill issue to me. The Europeans wouldn't have colonized Africa if the Europeans weren't already ahead. Sub-Saharan Africa didn't even have the wheel before it got colonized.
Does the skill issue apply in the same way when one European country invades another European country similar to what’s going on there at this very moment?
@@davidmitchell3020of course
HAILE selassie i is God .. the world should know
RUSSIA 🇷🇺 NEVER ATTENDED THE BERLIN CONFERENCE. THATS WHY THEY WILL WIN 🏆 IN UKRAINE 🇺🇦 😊
Yes exactly! The Russians are innocent angels protecting freedom, equality and equal rights as we all know.
Rememberance around Europe and colonialism is too one-sided.
I am happy to teach my kids about history and crimes during colonial rule. But then I wil also teach them things like the Haber-Bosch process, fertilizers and machinery, which have allowed africa's and the world's population to explode.
If you teach history one-sided, people in africa and similar will somehow get the impression that we owe them something.
Well, back then they were eating each other.
boring. now matter how much you blame or beg for money. unless the nations improve themself this is just another nonsense.
True. So if various countries want to make allies and establish their own destiny, the European powers and USA should not be sabre rattling about it
Africa was like Mars 😂😂😂
More left this nonsense. support your own culture and your own country. Why are you making Germany do it?
Only if Africans spend half of the time thinking about their past....
Not that every single british documentary isnt about their great days during WWII. It seems that nothing happened in that country since...
Let`s not forget about the huge german legacy that was left behind back in latin America on early 1820`s.. yeah fellas, 19th century and still Germany don`t want to take part of it and don`t help them how they deserve, only if there will be reasons to explore the Germans Latins then yeah, of course they will be interest to "help" them
I have seen too many unhistorical claims in this comment section...
When was Germany united?💁🏻♂️