Hubris | PSVR2 REVIEW
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I was just looking at this game on the PS App and in the description is this-
“An epic sci fi adventure that no VR gamer should miss out on playing.
-PSVR2 Without Parole”
Imagine my surprise seeing my man’s quote in a description of a game on the PS App! Really cool to see you recognized!
Fantastic review as always Bryan!! Thanks for all you do for the community and I can’t wait to pick this one up tomorrow
I'm amazed that there are some people complaining that this game is not worth it for $30 because you only get 6-7 hours of game play. The developer is also apparently pushing out an update that will have all the main characters lines re-recorded to help feel less flat there, so that is good!
Most people in general don't understand value. Movies are half this price (depending on where you go) and not nearly as long or immersive but they don't complain.
We're still in a world where people project their flat-screen values into the VR marketplace. You pay $60 for a 100+ hour open world flat game, ergo people think that a $30 game should have 50+ hours.
This is clearly broken logic. The VR marketplace is still tiny compared to flat. Return on investment is much lower (indeed, devs of some of the very best indie VR games have literally not earned even one dollar of profit from their titles!).
Simply attempting a linear singleplayer campaign (as opposed to, say, a roguelite approach which is easier to develop for increased replayability) is a brave thing in this field, and if the 6-7 hours of gameplay are as fun as Bryan suggests in this review, I'd say that represents great value for money! 😁👍
@@twitcherthesingleplayergamecat Agree on you with the points you made. I also look at it and there are plenty of flat screen games that come out for $60-$70 and give you around the same amount of play time. Most action FPS games are right around that mark. So who knows, maybe people just like to complain! 😃
Cool, so how long should we keep this low standard? If this was 10/10 game for 5 hours than maybe it’s worth it, but an average 5 hour experience. Screw that as consumers we should expect better and vote with our wallets.
@@adrenalineisbrown🍼👶
I said this at launch when Mura was the hot button topic and now I'll say it again now that reprojection and reprojection blur is the hot topic. There is something to be said about the power of suggestion, as in, if someone suggest that there are graphic issues to be on the look out for then you will be more likely to look out for and see the issue they are talking about. The opposite is true if you go in not looking for those issues at all, most will not find the issue. So just like Mura, i find that reprojection blur is something that most people will not notice unless they go looking for it. The question then becomes, well how do you go looking for it.
Well I have found that using the right analog stick to turn is a clear way to induce reprojection blur, more importantly using the right stick to turn at a high speed. Since reprojection is a form of motion interpolation, it is designed to make movement seem faster than it actually is. This interpolation of the image works fine when you are not moving very fast but when you are moving fast and the image on screen is reprojected to be even faster then blur is bound to occur. I have found that the image blur is managed better when either the player turns in the real world (thus eliminating the controller accelerated turning speed) or with controller turning speed is reduced so that the accelerated turn from the controller doesn't cause the image to become blurry temporarily.
We must understand that all things blur in fast motion and like motion blur in a flat game the effect is subtle at low framerate (30fps) but overly agrgressive at higher framerate (60fps and beyond). While the ideal is to simply turn it off completely, in instances where turning it off is not option, reducing the speed at which you turn does reduce the amount of blur needed to blend the reprojected frames into the native frames thus creating a smoother overall experience. Personally I find that lower turn speeds can reduce reprojection blur and artifacts altogether, and since there are no twitch shooters in VR it actually feels better to play since it simulates more of a natural turning speed than the normal controller accelerated turn speed.
@@minners71
If you must use the controller sticks to turn adjust for the fact that controllers have analog stick acceleration and increasing the speed at which the game turns increases the amount of blur produced by reprojection. Its crazy that this doesn't strike most as common knowledge since games have been employing motion blur and controller sensitivity since forever but it seems that in VR, people need to have it spelled out....objects viewed in fast motion will appear blurry.
If I didn’t use the sticks I’d end up wrapped up like a piece of spaghetti around a fork
@@GlaciusDreams
Then if you are someone who is bothered by reprojection blur a simple solution would be to turn down your turning speed. It will dramatically reduce reprojection blur and artifacts.
reproduction blur isn't an issue unless you're looking for it - PSVR2 vs one is a giant leap forward, be happy ya'll and enjoy the massive update to VR gaming on a console !!
Sounds great! I haven't been even remotely affected by reprojection thus far in my PSVR2 adventures, so it'll be interesting to see if this one bothers me at all.
Thanks, hon 💖
I always watch your reviews before making a purchase!
The best psvr2 channel 🙏🙏🙏
Your channel delivers the best VR reviews on youtube by far. Period.
I just picked this game up and played the fist chapter. It’s amazing so far and reprojection has not been an issue for me as it has in other titles. Bryan, thank you for delivering amazing, informative reviews with the absolute minimal amount of spoilers. You’re top class of reviewers.
I love the swimming and the climbing. It looks amazing also. Totally blown away by the first couple of hours so far
I've been looking forward to this since I saw the first trailer for PCVR... and now it's here in an upgraded fashion! Thanks for the review, great as always!
Great review. You do an excellent job to talk about types of game play, difficulty, graphics, length, etc. allowing the viewer to make a well informed decision.
Why people feel the need to tell you your opinion is wrong if it doesn’t align with theirs is ridiculous. People can be so sensitive to a stupid numbered score. Just know there are still some that value diversity and subjectivity of thought to a number.
People like to create controversy where there is none. They want to pit me against other TH-camrs or claim that I'm taking money from developers for positive reviews - and most of these people haven't even played the game themselves. So it's hard to take that specific group of people seriously. Over the years you learn to ignore them and move on :D
I picked up rad matter 2 after your review and couldn't have been any happier so will definitely pick this up. Reprojection won't be a problem for me as I have started to play vr games without using the right stick to turn but instead turn in real life so much more immersive plus no reprojection problems.
That's a good idea
I hope this game has some scenes that make you feel like an ant as I did with Red Matter 2 stepping outside and seeing Saturn and Neptune.
If you move your head at all, reprojection will bother you 😂
@@barclayjerrard5314 Nope you may need to look into reprojection to fully understand why it's connected to right stick movement and not head movement.
Really? If that's the case, how do I see reprojection ghosting in Kayak VR (which doesn't have any snap turn function). Just look at the palm trees (or anything dark on a light background) smear central.
You had me at ‘epic scifi adventure’. Great review!
Great review - thank you.
Would appreciate game installation size on the round-up/score info. PS store rarely offers this and not all of us are still rocking loads of HDD space.
This annoys the hell outta me when I’m browsing the store on the PS App and contemplating new games to buy! For the most part, the mobile app is a great way to browse the complete PS store and to purchase games and manage your account, but that’s the biggest and most annoying thing missing- file sizes. Cant believe they don’t have that info front and center on every game.
I would also recommend going to visual effects in settings and setting the sharpness stat to the maximum of 1.0. I feel like it makes the textures much less muddy in both close and further out ranges.
Agreed! No clue why the devs decided to turn the slider all the way down as the 'default' setting.. Maybe there's a catch, but i haven't noticed anything performing worse when putting it on 'max.' yet..🤷♂️
Great review as always, thanks for the heads up on the reprojection and lack of NG+. I'll still pick it up though =)
Excellent video pumped for this one!
Been waiting this one for a long time!
Thanks for the review, I will make my own opinion in a few hours :)
I think it's a very cool game so far! The reprojection hasn't been a problem at all for me. What's bothering me the most is to be forced to use the square button to crouch instead of R3. Having to release the movement stick to crouch is a really bad idea...
Looks like you get some sweet pod racing. Looks pretty good and I’m probably get it.
1.4k likes / 0 dislikes after 9 months of this vid being up.
G status.
Great success dude!
Weird, over here it says I have 12 dislikes. Either way, that's a pretty awesome ratio!
Thanks dude! :D
Happens to come out on one of my days off and I would have been playing it all day by the looks of it except it's happens to clash with the release of a little known RPG series that I'm kinda invested in.
I love Parole. You guys keep me groovy. Cheers
This was a 7/10 for me.
It's mostly good fun - and for an indie game, it's pretty high quality - especially the graphics were great.
You'll spend most of your time walking around to these pretty new areas shooting.
Combat isnt great though - at times i felt like i was just shooting balloons in a fairground.
There's some other elements for variety (climbing, swimming, a littie resource collection to upgrade), but they are fairly shallow & minimal.
Decent fun for a short length shooter tho & a very good indie game.
I'll get their next one if they step up a few areas.
Thanks Bryan. Great review. Although I do have a question, which relates to a problem I never really expected to exist until I bought tales from the galaxy's edge; which left me a little upset.
As someone who is massively into shooters, TFtGE left me underwhelmed. Most of the weapons didn't have any sights and the one(s) that did, aiming properly using them didn't work particularly well. It felt as if the entire gun play was built around shooting from the hip, something that I'm not a fan of.
My question... How does the gunplay feel in Hubris compared to TFtGE? I see the pistol has illuminated front posts and rear sights, and that there are optical enhancements. Can you aim guns using these sights like I'd expect?
At $30 it seems like a no brainer! Thanks for the review Bryan.
Its 49 in canada. Plus taxes thats 57$... way too much
@@julien2231 well that's everything in Canada correct??
@@timothyadamski6380 what do you mean?
@@julien2231 1 American dollar is 1.32 Canadian dollars. So a 30 dollar game should be 39.6 Canadian dollars. So you're right it is very overpriced in Canada.
The price is actually $39.99 in Canada
Sold...this was all the go-ahead I needed. Cheers!
Cool review. I was not aware of this game but it looks solid. I have a few days off work coming and I'm looking for some psvr2 stuff to play, so I will put this on the wishlist =)
Been waiting for this one and will buy great review! Games are usually too easy on default difficulty specially vr games. Walking dead are pretty easy on advanced difficulty. But dunno about re8 village i need to begin 2nd playthrough with village of shadows difficulty. Psvr2 is getting so much contents, its awesome.
thanks for the revjew. does it support left hand? (left hand weapons, with also left hand movement
Nice one - will definitely pick this up for the weekend. Will you guys be giving SURVIV3 the treatment? - Curious to know if it's good as After the Fall.
That’s what I’m talking about! Def grabbing this. Thx.
Just got my PSVR2 and picked this up on sale now for $22. You really can't beat that for a game of this quality.
Bryan a year ago or longer you said that your older psvr1 reviews were generally too positive and should be 0.5 less. I kinda feel like it's generally the same with most of the new psvr2 games.
Just a thought 😊
I DO love your optimistic view though!
Keep rocking 🤘
I might wait until after the reprojection update Sony is working on. I am super into sci-fi anything so this is a no-brainer, but I have limited playtime and Synapse is only a week or so away.
Thats what i was hoping for ! This will be awesome after RM2 👌
Apart from the reprojection. I really hope sony will actually fix it,so all games can look like rm2
@@stefandinu6389- Hopefully SONY will improve re-projection, but even if they do it won’t be as butter-smooth as 120 Hz native (like RM2 was), so careful not to conflate the two.
@@CHROME-COLOSSUSthere’s way to much focus on 120. 90 hz is perfectly acceptable for vr and it would do sony good to push games at 90 native. If verticals robot can do what they did with red matter at 120, then there are ways to make games like hubris run at 90 and look like red matter 2. Reprojection is by far the biggest issue of vr2
@@Thegooob95 - Agreed. Obviously the decision to use re-projection was the devs, not SONY’s. Hopefully more devs will either opt for 90-120 Hz native or offer it as an option (like many flatscreen games do) of either Quality mode or Performance mode.
But RM2 showed us that a very detailed setting with multiple moving objects can indeed run at 120 Hz, so it would be nice if that’s what devs SHOOT for, and use 90 Hz as a plan B.
Just tried Hubris for the first time today and it's pretty solid! I'm beginning to think I must be one of the lucky ones who aren't affected by reprojection because I thought it looked great. I guess everyone's eyesight is a bit different.
my problem with vr games now is the length to fiinish them... too short
i hope The Persistence comes out for PSVR2 i enjoyed that one. it did get the Ps5 upgrade.
Thanks Again for the Review ! 👍 will be picking it up But I'm shaking my fist at that reprojection .
I was gonna buy this anyway but im glad you are a fan.
This or the red matter bundle? I played the demo of this game, and I'm impressed.
I know your swamped but can we get a quick Until You Fall rereview? I love the game but I don't know if I "repay full price again" love it.
Had a great time with this game.
Super Review as always Brian :) Many thanks to u!
Would you say that the graphic is as good (realistic) as the graphic in Red Matter 2?
Minus the reprojection I think Hubris actually looks slightly more realistic than Red Matter 2
@@WithoutParole Reallllly, even more realistic :D ???!!!
@@WithoutParole WOW that's awesome to hear. I held off on Red Matter because I want to jump into this first. I will eventually get RM as well.
Day1 buy, thanks for the video.
What a relief!
I heard you mention Red Matter 2 in this video. I recently saw someone else mention it online. Is it a pretty solid game?
th-cam.com/video/M0i332MB83E/w-d-xo.html
Ok I'm getting this game for my channel
Ugh😞 reprojection is going to be the death of me if COTM was really hard for me but not for you then this is probably going to be really bad for me if it was bad for you BUT $30 does help I expected more expensive but looks like I’ll be playing in short segments then and using tricks I’ve heard of like turning in real life or using click turning instead of smooth turning cause that is usually what does it for a lot of people in reprojection but I am very excited to play this game and thank you as always Bryan you. are. the. best.
I'm so conflicted about PSVR2 compared to the first one, for so many little reasons. Just started playing Golem after picking up a physical copy (on your recommendation)
Wasn't at all sure at first but when you become the golem - wow. Looks and feels amazing!
First headset is so much more comfortable and balanced to me. It's like coming home after wearing the new one. Colors are richer too. I think think that's cos the new headset seems to force HDR but it looks a bit like HDR on older tvs.
I dunno man. Haven't found that game yet on PSVR2 honestly. Feel like I'd enjoy this but I'm wary especially after Red Matter 2 which feels like there isn't really a game in there
Swung the giant golem sword for the first time about an hour ago and caught the edge of the cabinet my turntables sit on, like a full on swing. Nice big cut and bump on my finger now. Worth it
I would have preferred a bit more combat and enemy variety in red matter 2. But aside from that, I loved it. One of the best VR experiences I've had so far (especially for a non AAA game)
@@royrogers495I'm a few hours in and feels like it hasn't quite started yet :(
Didn't realise it was like an escape room type of game tbh
I got a PSVR1 a couple of years after it came out so there was already a few classic games to catch up on. Astrobot blew me away that was almost enough on its own :)
I like GT7 but too many of these new games have motion controls or a lot of physical movement.. for certain reasons that ain't easy for me right now I was happy enough with a Dualshock lol
Feel sad Dreams isn't making the jump to PSVR2. Still enjoying it though but need to be patient I think
@@shortbread8941 It hasn't been the smoothest upgrade ever
Gonna have to divide my time between this and FFXVI it seems.
game was great. totally worth it. only neg was reloading and choosing the guns could have been more polished.
I'm liking this a lot.
June 22 can't come soon enough. Take my money!
Hopefully Sony can rework their reprojection method to make it less noticeable
I haven't played vr in over 2 years now but i watch ever video on this channel like i have an itch to play.....it may be time
Thanks for talking about reprojection. It matters for me. 👍
They need to fix the reprojection, or gives us a option to play it at a lower framerate without reprojection
Hubris, red matter 1 & 2, vertigo 2, and journey to foundation all seem very similar. How would you rate these 4 games against each other
Hmmm. They're all pretty different. Journey to Foundation is VERY narrative heavy so be prepared for long conversations and dialogue trees. Red Matter 1 is a great puzzle game but there's no action at all. Red Matter 2 addresses that and adds stealth, shooting, and platforming. Vertigo 2 is a great action game, more shooting than anything else (but still has framerate issues throughout). And Hubris has great climbing and shooting, good balance without too many puzzles. So while they're all good it comes down to what you're looking for. And for me personally I'd say Red Matter 2 is the best of the ones you listed, Hubris after that, Red Matter 1, Vertigo 2, then Journey at the bottom. Just keep in mind I haven't finished Journey to Foundation yet though, I'll get to it soon enough! :D
@@WithoutParole cool thanks for the info.
Keep up the brilliant work, you are the vr guy hands down my friend. Brilliant channel 👏
its a really nice game.
I swear this had coop. FML.
climbing in this thing seems bugged as hell, I dont know if you guys are having this issue, but my guy keeps climbing on top of things when he should be swinging from below and it keeps glitching me into the walls making it very hard to climb which this thing seems to have a lot of. I just wanted to run around and shoot some stuff and have a good time, its so hard trying to find a game like that these days, everything has to be vraf which half the time doesn't even work properly and it seems developers spend most of their resources on that instead of making an actual fun game. Im going to go back in and try to glitch myself through all these nightmare climbing sections, the combat so far has been ok I guess. Again, it looks great, the tech is there but man I dont know about the games, I think vr1 had much better games, I feel like we are going backwards here.
well, Im stuck, I cant progress because of this bug, restarted multiple times, I guess all I can do now is re install the game, if that doesnt work then I guess I just wasted $40 on this broken shit
I've played through Hubris twice and - based on your description - I've never encountered anything like you're describing. Sorry man I wish I could help
@@WithoutParole damn, thanks anyway, Ill fire it up tonight again hopefully re-installing it helped
@@WithoutParole after re-installing it, it seems a little better, maybe its just me, but this climbing is terrible, with it being such a big part of the game they could have polished it a bit. It also doesn't help either that I like playing standing and my ceiling is a little less than ideal, but thats not my only issue with this climbing. Besides that its decent enough.
@@WithoutParole ok, so for some positives, besides graphics, gun play is fun, I like the reloading, it gives you the feel of manual reloading without all the clunkyness and will it/wont it work moments of other manual reloading games, I would hope all shooters use this system moving forward but of course they wont. Storing items is easy, I think its the easiest over the shoulder system Ive used yet, not a pain in the ass at all, and grabbing stuff besides ledges sometimes is nice an easy. Running! it has it! and shooting! running and shooting gangster style? yes! If there was no shitty climbing in this game I would agree with the 9.
Thank goodness I can reload my gun without putting it behind my back!
How did you not notice the blur effect in RE:8 or HCOTM? It's the same as this game.
For you, sure. We all see thing differently Roy. We've had many, many conversations about this exact thing on Gamescast. It varies from person to person, game to game :D
It’s 12.49 on ps store
Was looking forward too this game.. but jfc, any movement and the whole game is blurry. The climbing is not polished, like at all. The arms, even when i calibrated, are awkwardly placed.
I could see me enjoying this game if they just smoothed some shit out but until then i guess ill hold off on playing for a few months when maybe the developers fix it.
Dont buy right imo.
It's crazy how divisive this game has been. I loved it all but of course I didn't have any of the issues you did. Hopefully Hubris gets the patches it needs for you to have a better time with it
Reprojection is the most important thing sony MUST fix. I have no idea what they need to do, but red matter 2 showed what’s possible. I’ll get the game at 30 bucks, but I wouldn’t buy it at a higher price with the reprojection as inconsistent as it has been.
Wow, that's a much higher number than I was expecting after quite a lot of negatives.
You mentioned the reprojection, but is it sharp like red matter?
Man this is where Sony need to drop their reprojection firmware update lol..hurry up you guys!
Sounds fun. Definitely gonna get this eventually.
Lots of negatives? I listed a few but they were extremely minor. Oh well, that's why I put the score there - in case there's any confusion :)
@@WithoutParole sorry I didn't mean you were being negative, I agonised over using that word and worried you'd take it that way lol
I just meant like issues, niggles, stuff that could be better etc..
My bad
@@WithoutParolehow would you rate the reprojection? Is it worse than horizon cause horizon’s reprojection caused hand stutter. If it’s like village then it’s acceptable but if it’s like horizon I won’t get it.
Reviews are obviously subjective but your and ajs score are significantly higher than anything else I’ve seen so far today. Most have been 6.5-7.5
I love hearing that Hubris has been divisive. I can't wait to find out if you agree with us or the reviewers who scored it lower. Keep me posted! :D
It's weird cause the footage I've seen from you and elsewhere just looks so... dull and anaemic somehow. But maybe it's a "you need to be in VR to see it" thing. Deffo will give it a try
Same here,those environments just dont jump out at me
Sounded like a 6 until the score at the end!
I can't decide between this or red matter 2
Red Matter is better for puzzles, Hubris is better for action :D
Thanks for the review! Def considering this.
I do hope psvr2 gets some much needed content. Even if it's ports. I'd like Minecraft, rec room, wipeout, ancient dungeon just to name a few. Still have my quest 2 at least.
How many hours per week do you have available to play games ?
Say you could only have one...This or Synapse?
Synapse is action packed with pretty solid replayability. Once you've completely mastered the controls you'll likely have already beaten it several times but will want to dive back in.
#gamecat
Good Games psvr2 , Next stop vértigo 2
Let's hope Vertigo and Vertigo 2 get here soon! :D
How hard is this game?
If you want any kind of challenge you're gonna want to play on the Hardest difficulty. Even then it's not crazy hard, just a good challenge
@@WithoutParole thanks dude, I'll be picking this one up. Cheers, have a great day man
Why my comment has been deleted? I just asked about mura because I'm quite sensible to it and I could like to know before buy it. Thanks
TH-cam is weird - I get complaints all the time about deleted comments but I don't actually delete any so I have no idea what's happening. To answer your question - if you're sensitive to mura you'll probably see it more in Hubris than most games
It looks to have a lot of bright environments so here's hoping the mura isn't noticeable for the most part.
Ok, thanks for your answer. I can give it a chance and see how it is.
It's 40% off right now, so you can pick it up like I did for $17.99.
That's a great deal! :D
Hmmm your score is a little higher than the other reviewers. Most gave it like a 7/10. I wonder why
I wonder why too. I loved Hubris. But everyone has their own opinion and Hubris certainly isn't the first game I've disagreed with other outlets about - remember when people raved about Eden Tomorrow and I thought it was boring? It happens
Please dear God / Sony please fix reprojection issue.
I'm still waiting to buy the PS VR 2. I was left so disappointed by the PSVR 1.
Totally understandable - that's where I'm at with Quest 1 and 2. Not sure if I should buy the 3 or not. The last two were horribly disappointing
You probably didn't do a great job at exploring for resources because I'm about 50-60% into the game and have all 3 guns fully upgraded!
Amazing! What difficulty are you playing on?
@@WithoutParole I chose the hardest difficulty like you recommended and it's great!
@@ryogo666 dude that's awesome I can't believe I missed so much stuff to craft with!
Cant wait to play this
I Just finished Hubris and for me its a 6/10. Boring combat and boring plot, Just a good look view game.
After playing Horizon I'm over climbing. I'm skipping this one just based off of that
I enjoyed my time in this game, minus the brain dead AI. Most of the time, the enemies just stand still, waiting to get shot. The AI is broken.
Me and AI have something in common then.
Gotta disagree on this one, played it recently and thought it was pretty bad.
Titanfall 2 was the same. Boring on normal, amazing on hardest difficulty.
Great review. Shame about the reprojection issue.
Great review but I feel you show to much of the game in your reviews
I personally think the reprojection bothered you most on this game due to the fact that you talked about it so much on Monday.
Except that I played Hubris last week lol
@@WithoutParole ahahaha
wasnt this thing made by like 1 guy too? lol
Nope, Cyborn Games isn't a huge studio but there's definitely more than one person working there lol :D
Not long enough... What does that mean? Another 6-8 hour techdemo?
Ah well going to get it anyway, let's see if I can finish in one day just like RM2... :)
It felt like the perfect length to me. About 6 hours on my first playthrough and they pack a lot of action into those hours - certainly not a tech demo. Have fun! :D
Unfortunately I hate first person anything and multiplayer or social crap so i am not the target audience for vr
What a weird place to leave comments…
Only $30?! I was expecting this to be much more. Sold!
Can developers pleeeeease stop putting climbing in vr games.
Not a fan? Seems like most people enjoy climbing in VR
I love climbing in VR games. I wish they'd release The Climb 1 and 2 for PSVR2 !
Found it too samey and boring after two hours :(
i hate this game :( sadly it to much Mario Brother for me.Jump and climb.
Super realistic Mario Bros with guns and story and crafting and... hmmm. I don't get the comparison...
@@WithoutParole Actually i went back to the game and i am enjoying it much more since i got to the Metro Train part. i also do like that there is some narration and feels like a story game in a way.
That's great to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying it more now! :D
@@WithoutParole Thank You, only one annoyance is i keep dropping items from my Back pack when i sometimes climb, and also my crouch button dont work on left stick.