Are We A Republic Of Hurt Sentiments? With Karan Johar And Tanmay Bhat
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- Filmmaker Karan Johar and comedian Tanmay Bhat, at the receiving end of a backlash on Twitter last year for different reasons, share the stage to talk about the diminishing tolerance for - well tolerance in the Indian public sphere.
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Tanmay Bhat is referring to Comedy nights with Kapil 😃😃 where Kapil is making fun of his wife sumona...... in Kapil Sharma show , Sumona is not his wife ... .... I have to agree with Tanmay Bhat ... what he is saying is logically correct
I dont know why but i find her hot..!!!
Don't Know same here.. she has nice thick big lips.. !! And a big mouth.. Must be a great kisser..
So if one person is doing wrong , then you will degrade at much lower level by giving excuses.
No. He is saying about Sunil Pal
Tanmay op in the chat guys! 💕
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yes people in this country wait eagerly to get offended
UHM WELL THAT HAS COME TO A NEW LEVEL TODAY
Very relevant even today
You can't make jokes on anything these days...
"A nation is doomed not when its Politicians are corrupt, it is doomed when its Citizens lose the sense of Humor"
-Malik
I have sense of humor...can make jokes on ur mom and sister...do you mind it...I hope you havent lost the sense of humor...do reply..have joke/roast on ur sis/mom
Having a sense of humour is your ability to take a joke on yourself. It is not just making jokes or hard hitting satirical comments. And when one is roasted, one takes jokes on himself/herself, in some cases, if one's family can take a joke on themselves, then you can make joke's on one's family as well. Understand that. A political party or a religion or a god or your character or your family (be it big or small, wealthy or poor), is too big to be put down by a bunch of jokes. Comedians who are true to the art of comedy always satirise an establishment or a system. They never demean a repressed society of individuals. They never joke about people who are from a weaker socio-economic background. The oppressed mock the oppressor. There are a billion + people in India. There are currently 26.7 million active twitter accounts. 197 Million Facebook accounts. So, if you do not like a sarcastic remark or a tweet or a cartoon or a youtube video or a snap 60% of the people haven't even seen it. So, you don't have to lose your minds when a tweet or a blog is written that goes against your beliefs. So, accepting a sarcastic remark or a joke, even if it is against what you believe or how you feel or hitting hard on your insecurity- that is 'having a sense of humour'.
It's doomed when citizens are Chutiyas of high class...!!!
Wanna be American spotted
One of dumbest people I ever seen that is you. 💩
Good job Tanmay, I appreciate your thoughts
P.S. You did an amazing job with yourself, you look good after shedding so much weight, it's inspirational
This comment aged like milk.
@@raaayyyaaaan lol
@@raaayyyaaaan your comment is belongs to another level bro.😆😆😆😂😂
@@raaayyyaaaan Haha,,, Now look at where Tanmay Bhat is. He has three successful channels.
@@raaayyyaaaan koi bat nahi he will try again
I would've preferred Anurag Kashyap in addition to them. They say it has been 7-8 years, Anurag's Paanch was stopped from being released in 2005 in similar cases of potraying an incident badly, too much violence, this and that
Avijeet Ghosh Although, Paanch was initially banned by CBFC, it was later cleared way back in 2001/02. It was not released bcoz of some issue with the producer. You can see the CBFC certificate at the beginning of the movie available on TH-cam
I like both kapil and tanmay.
Kapil jokes about his wife(artist) for being ugly
tanmay jokes about his friend aahish sakya (sakya) for being black .
it is simple if u offended don't see.
The Ashish shakyha joke of refferring to 'dark' is simply was simply an insult joke or a dark joke (dark humour), it wasn't something with hate.
@@jigyajithazarika3510 true but roasting channels and meme pages these days are full of hate these days. Example carryminatti.
As rightly said by Prof Agarwal, In our country only sentiments get hurt and the intelligence never get hurt.
wow...wht a healthy conversation..😍
we want more shows like ths
9:25 lol He is so reffering to Kapil Sharma show
obviously
He is referring to sunil pal & raju srivastav's view on a news channel.
yeah and it's true
No he is not its kapin sharma he mentions female guest raje and sunil never had guest
imroz ahmad yNj
Tanmay nailed at the end 😂😂😂
it’s recent? Heard of the movies “Black Friday” , “water” , “Bandit Queen” etc.? Know what happened to them when releasing in India? Hurt sensitivities and offended politicians are a norm here, which is really not good.
Well said Tanmay Bhatt!!
It's always a treat to hear Tanmay, KJO and Shashi Taroor 😊
but the thing is that, TANMAY BHAT LOVES HIS RED BOMBER MAN!!!!!!
19:40 we living in a time when west makes film on great Indian mathematician ramanujam whereas Indian filmmakers celebrating azhar on silver screen.
and you are fine with consequences film like azhar faces? negative publicity to failed box office collections...
I'm sorry but you are not that gullible which you certainly trying to portray yourself.
^Exhibit A
The answer is Yes
This guy got pretty butthurt just now from a video
On an online platform
Which he saw
By his own choice
Shubharthi Talukdar thanks for kind words.
yes I see videos of my choice on online platforms & just because Im a human being with sound & working mind, I have opinions as well.
By the way comment sections are to share opinion about video.
Im sorry but im NOT sorry if I piss you off by any measure.
gaurav singh
Exactly
That's how a democracy is supposed to work
The principle concept at the crux is to have the right to hold an opinion and enforce each and every individual to do the same
See, in no way did You commit any kind of wrongdoing
And don't get me wrong
The very act that You did is constitutional
And it is encouraged. Expressing an opinion is inherent to our development.
Yet some don't stop at it.
Progression to violence from expressing an opinion is what the people here are speaking about against.
The reason.
Because we as Indians, are generally thin skinned
Again, that is their opinion.
And I happen to feel that way to
You don't
And that's okay.
But stop it at that point.
Instigating violence or even feelings that resonate violence is not gonna get us anywhere
Instead calm down, take a sip of water, reason, debate and educate yourself on the issue
Opinions that are expressed just for the sake of expressing them and not for the sake of spreading goodwill or contributing to a positive change will just harbour hatred
Again, that is my opinion
The rest is in your judgement.
Shubharthi Talukdar bringing in dogmatism and to impose opinions by force is objectionable. I agree.
And if you see to my comment, I've nowhere said they were not subjected to harrassment.
I'm actually upset with what our cinema is delivering ALSO what stupid reasons they are giving for there incapability of delivering good content. We want more udta pubjab, bring in our celebrated ancient mathematicians aryabhatta and ramanujas.. why are we waiting west to make a movie on vivekananda?
Instead you put loads of cash on azhar.. only to twist every facts from the past for the reason better known to the ones who financed it. seriously?
I dont hate them, Im keenly waiting for dharma production's bahubali 2 & I have also subscribed to AIB youtube channel.
Mr.Tweezy007 I agree with you that Indians do get offended quite easily but these film makers are risking huge sum of money with 'azhar' , Why I ask?
you make 'raees' which is based on 1993 bomb blast financer abdul lateef,only to glorify him as some kinda robinhood, why?
Sorry but if they are really frightened of consequences then they should also answer whose money they are riding on,when they make movie on culprits only to glorify them and still okay with outrage of people.
Im sure these feared producers have no balls to risk their own money, and in that case some1 must have hired them to make a film on particular subjects.
Im saying again,they are NOT that gullible as they portray.
I have a question...And I'm from neither of any sides..I'm not politically motivated... Actually I'm 17 so right now I can't even vote.
My question is:If Bollywood is in so pitiable state and there is no freedom then why don't they protest together?
Secondly,If Bollywood thinks they are one,Why don't they support each other
Thirdly,Just like Politics,Why do they also follow Dynastic succession?
I think all are answered in this interview by Karan.
When you're grown up and adult (not by age, by mind) watch it again
You'd understand.
Tanmay forever
Tanmay looking so slim in thumbnail 😅
Tanmay bot op.....he is ❤ as well as naveed
This is so relevant even in today's date
Never seen tanmay such serious.
Then u have seen very little from Tanmay.
Karan Johar says we need good movies and goes ahead to make SOTY & SOTY2 😂😂
He is biggest hypocrite
Kalank
Didn't you listen to the full video? There are numerous movies and scripts which if he wish can make but cannot because it would hurt people's sentiments politically and religiously. The people and religious groups gets offended and then boycott those films. He has no option but to make these kind of movies.
@@jatinchanchlani8982 Yes our society is so conservative that they would be glad to watch SOTY & SOTY2 rather than OMG, Padman, Article 15, Section 375, Firaaq, Gulaal, Buddha in a traffic jam. Filmmaking is about picking an abstract, social, historic, sci-fi, satire topic and making a good film out of it. It's not supposed to please everyone but should be able to communicate the message of the director/writer to the people watching it. Being a people pleasing director isn't going to make you a good filmmaker but just another Anu Malik or Pritam.
Because he wants to sustain in the industry.
Tanmay throwing shade at Kapil like a baws
16:21 The solution to this problem is that film makers should release bloopers and behind the scenes footage of the shoot.If you watch the making of movie Dangal you will never criticise the actor and crew members.They put in such hardwork that you will feel what it takes to perfect a shot.
Some of us do. But if a fawad khan or a mahira khan refuses to condemn the terrorist attacks on our soil, then fuck them. We feel for pakistan. They don't feel for us. They're all smug and throwing under-handed warnings our way. I don't give a shit about a movie. The guy standing at the border protecting my family comes before my opinions, before Karan Johar's opinions, or before your hot guy fawad's opinions. if that fucker, who was thrown bread by my country, does not feel for it's youth, then throw him out. I'm not an extremist. It's just true. Enough is enough. Why do we feel for a country that refuses to feel anything back for us ??? There is a difference between being a liberal and having a "Stockholm Syndrome"
though you feel like you are not extremist but your mindset is exactly extremist. Repeating same fawad khan and mahira khan comments. Tell you what they dont live in India , they live in pakistan. its a situation quite similar to mumbai where a snapchat video can trigger violent protest. Similarly if they speak against pakistan they can be threatened too or maybe their families. I wont support them for saying anything against all the jawans who are sacrificing their life, but i wont hate them if they dont speak anything against their country. The biggest example of speaking against pakistan is Tarek fateh when he used to live in Pakistan.
This is the nuetral mindset not too liberal not too extremist. While you are leaning on the more extremist side of it. And I guarantee you if one of your family member is killed by some local politician or authority even by mistake, then also you just cant say anything against your country, cause youre gonna get murdered and presented as a martyr or if you have a love for life then you'll be threatened forever. And thats the ugly reality of every country. I appreciate and respect your patriotism but try to get under their skin too.Yes they dont bleed for us cause they are actors, soldiers are expected to bleed for country not actors. If they wanted to bleed ever for their country, then they would have joined army already. Not acting. Artist are bound to be free of rules. The hippocricy is of media that they always tend to show Actors of foreign origin always in negative shadow just to earn some so called TRP. and with that being said,
HAVE A GOOD DAY, BRO :-)
My mindset is not at all extremist, "DELUSION" if we can condemn a terror attack on pakistan, why can't they condemn an attack on Indian soil ?? Nobody asked them to name pakistan. Did they ?? But they refused to speak against those attacks. Did we not condemn the Lahore blasts in UNISON ?? As a COUNTRY ?? Do you like watching movies so much that the death of an armyman is not important to you, but such artists who do not feel ANYTHING AT ALL for your country, and for your armymen, but want to earn a bread off this land, THEY mean so much to you ?? I dont give a flying fuck what the situation in pakistan is. The situation in India is not that of a superpower either. Condemning a terrorist attack has nothing to do with pakistan. They didn't even have the decency to say "What happened was wrong." If they can't say that much, then let them fuck off. Just fuck off mate. Just. Fuck. Off. That's what I have to say to your hotties from pakistan. And you know what ?? Take Karan Johar with you. We don't need these assholes who think being a nationalist is equal to being an extremist. Nationalism, Patriotism, caring about your country, these are not the sole duties of the armed forces personnel. It is every citizen's duty. You have your priorities skewed, apparently. Trying to be merciful to your predator will not make it NOT BITE YOU. FYI. Pakistan is NOT a friend. Has NEVER BEEN a friend. Has ALWAYS STABBED US in the back. I don't mind any jokes anyone has to say about any person. Hell, laugh at my family if you want to. But this shit is not cool. NOT. COOL.
Why you are attacking me man. I just presented you with an opinion, its your choice to buy it off or knock it off. But dont pass hatred comments to me man. I am not a representator of this country, and neither wanna be in anyway. There's a reason why people have different opinions and thats because of different mentalities. I just presented an impression of what i was getting from you but nowhere in that i abused or passed personal remarks. So dont you just tell me to fuck off mate, let it be a fucking clean and healthy discussion, and ofcourse without cause i am not idiot illiterate who just presents an opinion and if someone dont buys it then start fighting and passing cuss words. No sir you just dont mistake me for such kind of person. And for your information i hate bollywood and its cheesy movies and its worst music ever.
At last let them fuck off if they want to cause i dont give a damn. But here's an interesting fact people in India are easily offended and become intolerant easily.
Anup Bhatt Great language man for expressing your anger👏, just a simple thing I wanna ask, do you really give a shit if those people condemn the attacks or not? Do they mean that much to you that you wanna hear them condemn? I mean what good will that bring? will it bring the died soilders? or you're just too stubborn and feel good to blab on social media?
Tanmay ❤️
EK TARFA PYAR = NON- FORMATION OF COALATION GOVERNMENT..!! #rofl
9:41 Guy sitting on Karan's left cuts Tanmay's argument off about how the biggest joke on TV today is 'my wife is ugly AF and I'd rather be with this actor/actress' What was that about? Just another issue which will take a hundred years to subside... because people like those on this panel.
Respect for Karan Johar
@Slayy Point come on.. You may hate him as a person, but in this video he is 100% correct
Yes Exactly...He may be lying from his own point of view. But what he said is universally True.
17:28 Megnad in the background
I just come to see Tanmay
24secs is what you use to promote your films
motherfuckers ignored Tanmay bhatt
My problem is they don't make good movies. Even if they are given all the freedom they can't make a good movie, because they don't have the talent.
metipsm so don't watch their movies as Simple as that ;)
I don't.
I don't but thanks for the great suggestion.
That does not speak for Malayalam..tamil.. bengali movies..because they still make good movies
Great
love tanmay... i agree ...
Yes to Meluha
to be honest, Common people don't give a damn about these "FAMOUS FOR BEING FAMOUS " emblems. And this coterie entails so called actors, directors, journalists, etc. people have no other option at their disposal than to pass their time with their cinema
Tanmay OP!
Bot army here ???
in first 10 sec and i am already irritated by no fault of urs statement...didnt they see karans insensitive reaction initially?
ndtv this was a good one, plz upload complete show
y tf is it recommending me now goddamit
The Hindu: Its a request. Next time, please include some diversity in opinions on stage. This is an echo-chamber.
Exactly, from the point of view of a discussion, each of them are speaker the others' opinion.
Personally, I would have preferred someone from a Bajrang Dal or some offended dal like that, who are offended and create hooliganism from that, but then again, they might have brought the whole studio down, but someone like Anupam Kher would've done the trick.
Plus I missed Anurag Kashyap, who has been a frontier from the Film Fraternity on these cases
kitna royega chaar baari tera cmnt padh liya
I thought it was an interview
What nonsense?
People like Bajrang Dal and mullah extremists should not be given a voice.
publicized artists involved in active political parties is the main cause behind the lack of solidarity
I don't get it , why do these comedians have such a problem with kapil calling his wife ugly ?...kapil is primarily an insult comedian and you know what an insult comedian does ? throws insults. I personally find the show boring because of its repetitive nature but this sexist BS is just that, BS. I mean jb religion pe joke bna skte ho , vahi ghisse hue community stereotypes pe joke ban skte ho to biwi pe joke maarne pe kya takleef hai ? Have you ever seen shows like "married with children" ? Tum apne roast m kuch b bolo wo sahi but when someone else does it then you suddenly become politically correct
I am liking it for Tanmay
But at the same time, I am disliking it for Karan Johar
😞😞
But here Karen Johar is actually talking facts
Here's what the film industry should have done during Udta Punjab. all the producers should have come together and protested that they will not release one single film until and unless Pahlaj Nihalani is sacked and newer laws are introduced for the classification board. that's when the government will be threatened. the tax revenue will come to a hold, theatres will start shutting down.
but no one did that. because they had money on the films and the interest was building.
Ab ye Pahlaj kon hai...???
Jordan Modi JM arey bro unity naam ki cheej hi nhi hai logo mein...!!! Unity sirf NATIONALISM mein hi aati hai inmein...!!!
u know I don't think there is a problem with having an opinion that's our right but I don't think it should involve politics and the legal system
i really really hope you're being sarcastic here. -_-
Tanmay❤
Dont scroll way too down...!!!
Otherwise chitiyapa will get ahold of you...!!!
Every body come to see Tanmay bhat . Not karan johar
This is true wealth.
.............
But Tanmay's boss is karan johar ands that's true as well
Arey main btata hu kya scene hai...!!!
Scene ye hai ki sb chutiye hai...!!!
Its kind of opinions vs chutiyas...!!!
In this comment section, after seeing all the comments calling these guys who are just doing what's well within their rights hijras and chakkas, I have one thought in my mind.
MERA DESH BADAL RHA HAI, AAGE BADH RAHA HAI!
Tanmay OP. BOT ARMY strong.
karan seems to be snubbing tanmay.
We are in fucking 2017, why is this bloody video still in letter box 480p? Such great content but feels like it is shot in early 2000's
I would have liked an Anupam Kher type person on stage too. Have some diversity of opinion on show.
Dude, this is NDTV. They want to peddle their propaganda on how India is too narrow minded.
don't you too think the same?
People have so got used to NewsHour they want fights everywhere. Its a simple interview. dont have to have a fight everytime you speak on some issue
I agree. I condemn KJ's statement when he tells about Mh. Rafi incident. Anupam Kher has quite correctly said that with freedom of speech, there comes a sense of responsibility. You can't say anything about anyone. I wish, somebody had asked KJ how he would have felt if his father was insulted.
This isn't a debate... This is a discussion. Some people are so used to confrontations they can't see a simple discussion...
How r they so articulate
Wow Tanmay lost a lot of weight
accept gay right every other issue is trivial and irrelevant to karan johar
*English has left the chat*
tanmay and his red jacket. Adidas jacket
Sab ne sari baaten bol di aur safe ho gaye. karan is market stander, tanmay bhatt, abhi aap ko kaafi time lagega.. aap bhi gidar chal mein hi hai. kloi critisim nahi aam nazariya hai.
What...???
Historian kch bola b nai
aajkal har koi offend ho raha hai.....kis kisko convince karoge
They are talking about media going nuts for views and this is 4 years old.....
Main Problem is Everyone Want to show only they are correct , these people making roast are also offended only they express it in their way and these forums arrange discussions so their hurt is higlighted , those who are offended their feeling is temporary its the irony all those bans etc and the people and their mentality behind the bans hurt sentiments etc , on the surface it will seem those people and their hurt sentiments is big issue but actually these people in the discussion forums like this ultimately win cz they have this 'intellectual support faction' behind them be it big media houses or be it a significant segment of audience with 'intellectual mindset' ,everybody forget in 1 or 2 years about the mass whose sentiment was hurt and their aparently big protests but the 'media' causing those hurt sentiments remains forever specially in this era of internet and their supporters remain also , so technically they got much more fame eventually even if they are banned in this country for hurting sentiments of a portion of mass who are labelled uneducated anyway .
*GODZILLA HAD A STROKE READING THIS AND HE FUCKING DIED*
@@arjundutta5521 😆😆😆😆thats fucking good newz Sir!! thnx for your sarcasm
Man! Tanmay is Tanmay.
Karan, always knew you were mature to handle this.
Ages will remember this and they'll understand one day
When this big bubble of delusion will burst
Kangana and karan actually have same views..... One goes by the system to avoid problems , one protests against it boldly.....
You cannot be more wrong.
I want to say lot of things but I don't want to kiuki mei nahi chahta ki koi bara politician , bhot bara sant mahatma baba types , bade log I won't tell the name of course and our some anytime offend hone wale janta mujhe gharse uthale ya marde ab mei bas yehi kahunga ki I love my country 😓 hope anyone could understand this riddle I've made
Not yet
the sound quality is not good
Why he is given so much attention he is just one human who is fake
Bot army
Karan Johar you speak well has a good taste in scripts then why make weird movies and only support starkids especialy those who are only good in makeup and dressing only?
I am offended
If you take the Liberty to offend others, they are right to get offended. Deal with it.
Val-schaeffer Absolutely! However, this offence comes with threat of violence and the ability of certain groups to threaten and intimidate free speech. You have the right to peaceful protest and your opinion but not threatening or going out of their way to harm another!
Then you need to consider, things in India doesn't work from side of conscience and values - unless there is enforcement measures.
Indian Independence and character assassination are totally different issue. You are not allowed to insult others. Period. And that includes KJo's sexual orientation and Tanmay Bhat's weight.
Val-schaeffer can you explain why exactly these people are watching those videos knowing that they're gonna get offended??
BUT , No one deserves to die or to get beaten up
Indians have so many limits
Tanmay op
Biased media....
Poor audio
fuck no!! karan is not making meluha😒😭
Where is Mr. Arnabm Goswami on Sexual Harassment Charges against his Friend Tanmay Bhat!!, on one programme he & Arnab were busy making fun of Lata Mageshkar and Sachin Tendulkar. Why is he quiet , Arnab literally has gone too far and made mockery of Media/Democracy and literacy, Infact Arnab fits very well in urban maoist category or in the third page cheap 'Right' category. On the other hand he is so after Nana!!
I'm sorry. That ticker feed which is putting up talking points is garbage. Bad job.
was that SRM university 😍😍
No buddy
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Srm University 😂🤣
likre hearing Karan
why did NDTV called karan johar a director of cheesy bollywood movies which spoiled generations, and a wild kid who got fame by doing everything wrong, why NDTV treating them as intellectuals.. when they aren't .. this is sick.Indians always chose wrong people n give credit to childish people..
Kjo i agree but what has tanmay done? Infact he has opened eyes of so many youngsters. Boomers who never followed his content won't know his content. Infact boomers are also intelligent these days. Idk what kind absurd you are.
4:23 to 7:25 lonnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg speech by karan
moreover news and controversy in some stupid channels caters to more entertainment than real entertainment, till the time they gets a pat from religious or illogical political honchos, boycott sch individuals in the art fraternity, and you will good out much easily
Increasingly irritated by NDTV
"INTELLECTUALS"
Wanna be
first time i am happy that he didn't make movie on immortals of meluha, he would have fucked the storytelling big time with cliché bollywood singing around the trees shit, the book itself is such an epic it needs out of the world imagination to transform it on the big screen, big up's for amish tripathi and the trilogy
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Please don't mess with emotions of people !! you are doing jokes about those people which are idols.
when ur idols are not offended by their jokes then who the hell r u to get offended on behalf of them? if they r offended they will come and speak for themselves at this point there is no need for the third person or an individual to come and intervene and make it more complicated on petty things if u r offended go and lodge a complain in police station nearby but u cannot go and trespass their house and harass them and give them a death threats if u don't lyk the show then stop watching but don't impose ur opinions on the others forcefully just because u hate them coz its their wish hope u understand and if u dont then god helps u then...
Karan johar says we need good movies then goes ahead to make SOTY2
He didn't direct it if I'm not wrong
Karan Johar is a Western stooge
a nair true...
The western developed nations are far ahead of India in many ways.
You have a lot to learn from the west.
ECURB511 the same west which elected donald trump.
The united states is a great example of how religion and ignorance can affect anybody.
and even if they elected trump, at least they can say that every American home has a toilet.
can we say the same?
ECURB511
we will soon.. INDIA has just got freedom and it is doing its best.. even after facing a lot of drama.. we are standing still with our values and that's what makes us stand apart..
p.s. btw karan is real stupid to act vulnerable after using the 'talent' for obvious commercial gains!
aib roast is big business as for current commercial outlook , something comic show is often take all that that it is cater to niche segment slowly business is carried lot of corporate
we often looks on paper and pampers that sometimes we c on roast carried out but
defend and offend all that is just nothing but how for shape is carried on roast
nepotist commercial filmmaker making profit increasing comments
Tanmay Bot hay hay ..Aree ...Tanmay Bot hay hay
Film fraternity : bunch of self fish people and dont give damn about what doing on in country did any of you raised voice against corruption ? did any one said dont vote corrupts or criminals ? unless you are paid for you do any thing ... and when I say any thing going by the news you do any thing for the money.