The Retroid Pocket Flip: So much potential...
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The Retroid Pocket Flip is exactly the same as the previous 3 Plus, but THIS time it FLIPS! People LOVE that for some reason.
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I'm waiting for you to say "This one is perfect, runs everything is supposed to, has all desired buttons, they feel nice and are easy to repair.". When (or if) this happen, I'll get one.
You'll be waiting forever. You can probably get 3 out of 4 somewhere. Until then just get a SteamDeck or a PC.
Bob usually states this in all of his videos referring to this subject matter. There is a new handheld like every 3-4 months. There will never be a "great" time to buy one because the next best thing is always right around the corner. Similar to building a gaming PC. Find one that suits your needs and don't look back.
@Angel Torres "Runs everything is supposed to" is not something I'd say about Steam Deck. It has the hardware but a lot of games are incompatible.
@@nunyabidnes6010 Some changes of design and this Flip could achieve that.
I'm with ya on that sentiment. Anbernic RG35X was as good as Bob said for beginners but it's not a high end product. Waiting on the actual high end handheld that is pocketable, meaning that'd be considerably smaller than a Switch or Steam Deck.
Okay... I just bought this thing about 2 weeks ago. And I gotta say my dude is wrong about a couple things... Of course these also might have been changes Retroid has made to the product over time but either way...
The M1 and M2 buttons are definitely mappable to home and back. I have mine set this way and it comes with its own settings to do this.
Next the screen doesn't go back far enough he said... This is technically true... But that's because there are 2 tiny plastic stops on the back. I took a tiny file or some light 400 grit sandpaper and sanded those stops like a millimeter... Or. 010 of an inch... And my screen comfortably goes back to the most comfortable point... (Mr. Wulff here is a bit of a modder so I'm surprised he didn't try this already)
Oh and I moved 30 Gb of data from my computer through the cable it came with, to my device... So the stock cable does transfer data
And the GameCube emulation is actually great... There are some guides online about how to optimize the quality. It might not be good to play Melee or FZero GX... Duhh. But Mario Sunshine and Windwaker I've finished 70% of and they have zero issues. I recommend using the PAL versions btw... Also I've played Twilight princess, Papar Mario TTYD and Star wars Jedi Outcast and they play perfectly...
The Retroid Pocket Etc. Dancing All Night Edition would be an amazing opportunity to make an off the rails device that’s sparkly
Btw, i dont know how I forgot to mention this throughout the whole stream, but your retroid functioned exactly as mine did until I found out about the "sleep trick" where you'd put it into sleep mode for 30s and after, performance took a huge jump. The guys at retroid were aware of it and did nothing until like 3 weeks ago and they did an OTA(over the air) update which gave those performance boosts without the sleep trick.
Before the trick, ds/gc/ps2 was nowhere near working but after they run pretty damn good. So if you haven't, turn on wifi and update because it makes a very noticeable difference. For reference I can run ps2 and gc with 100% speed or very close to it whereas prior, I could only dream of that. Hope this helps a bit.
oh also worth noting, even after the update, 3ds is still like 80% unplayable even with optimal settings...so dont even bother lol
@@shawnforman1687 have you tried the latest canary build citra it added Vulkan, and it brought insane performance boost to Mali GPUs.
@@mortemincarnatam2836 I'll check it out, thx
I was wondering if this test was before or after the firmware updates to the P3+/Flip, because from what I saw on RGC's video about it it was actually a huge boost to overall performance.
@@warbossgegguz679 yeah it's insane, now even my shitty Samsung Galaxy a12 nacho can play 3ds games.
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Can't wait for the Retroid Pocket 3+ Dancing all night edition
I got the RP3+ and Miyoo Mini+ as my first emulation system. Love both. RP3+ stays home and I take the miyoo with me when I want to game on the road.
do you by any chance have a cloud sync system that is setup for your saves? curious if this is a thing
@@glitch2424 syncthing but its not supported by the miyoo mini plus. Works for alot of other handhelds though.
@@sunnygalli thank you! Just thinking it would be nice to have saves across both the rp3 and the miyoo M+. One for home, and one for the go, continue your game progress
@@glitch2424 I haven't messed with that yet. I just got both devices last month or so so i'm still a noob. Most my time (even more than gaming) has been spent converting file types (CHD,CSO,ISO) and playing with the different cores. I only recently got everything in a really good state
@@_allcap for sure! Enjoy. My rp3+ is still on its way, so looking forward to that 😊
This is the first emulator that I’m considering buying!
Anbernic RG35XX and Miyoo Mini+ are good options as well, in case you don't know them, cheers
Just recieved mine two days ago. It's my first emulator as well. It's a lot more work than I expected to get everything set up and running well but I imagine that's similar across all android devices.
As far as the flip is concerned, my only complaint so far is that the fan sound is obnoxious. But according to some other reviewers the fan doesn't do anything for performance and the device doesn't get too hot, so I just leave it turned off.
I got mine earlier this week as well. Previously, I used a PSPGO and 3DS as my portable emulation devices, so this is a first for me. Clamshell is a huge plus to me, and I actually do prefer sliders to analog for form factors like these.
I do get wulf's similar complaint with the angling on the left analog slider does make me lean like 15degrees off when I go up and down on it. Would've preferred if the DPAD and left analog were swapped
It did take a while for me to setup certain emulators and their control mappings, but I think most people will be used to that if they're used to these emulator apps. But no issues a quick web search couldn't resolve.
Overall I like it. No issues running GBA/DreamCast/PS1/N64 games. Runs some RPG GameCube games with no issues, but wouldn't recommend GC emulation on it. It does also start running a bit warm while doing GC games, but no throttles. Haven't tried PSP/Switch/NDS/3DS on it yet though.
@@majzako When Retro Dodo and RGC reviewed this, they basically said that (like with the RP3+) you should view PS2 and GC emulation as more of a "bonus" or at least know that it's gonna require a lot of tinkering. Which I'm fine with because the main goal for me is to get a companion/upgrade to my modded N3DSXL, which can't really run anything past the SNES in terms of retro consoles, but has native GBA, DS, and 3DS support. So if I want to play those, it's already my best option even if Citra and DeSeMu/Drastic were easy to configure on this.
I've heard it can run PSP no issue at all, so it seems like a great option for everything from the NES to the Dreamcast + GBA and PSP. Plus there are decent android ports of a lot of indie PC games, so that's cool. Literally my only issues are the flared shoulders being weird for a pocketable device, and the speakers being on the back when there's so much real estate on the front of the system.
i personally like where the screen sits fully open. When i had to click the screen up on my 3ds it didnt quite sit at the angle i wanted and and it could only click one way or the other, but the angle retroid is at and the form factor near the L2 and R2 props it up in such a way that its the perfect angle to play with it sitting on the desk for me.
So glad that this clamshell is getting so much praise and attention.
The inevitable Flip + will knock it out of the park with better GC and PS2 emulation, and maybe a home button.
I likely will get it. I've got the current flip, if I could run 99% as opposed to 75% of games I would be a very happy lad.
I'd love it if someone could figure out clamshell with recessed low profile analog sticks, instead of that slider thing. I hate those for control mechanisms. Vita's was nice.
The GPD XD and the GPD XD Plus were both clamshell designs with actual recessed analog sticks. I had the GPD XD and it was really nice to play on (not the best shoulder buttons though).
But neither of those are on the market anymore. Even if they could be found somewhere, both systems suffer from out-of-date hardware and their android versions are horribly out of date.
I believe GPD mainly does mini handheld PCs these days. From what I've seen their clamshell PCs still use the recessed analog sticks.
No idea why the design was never picked up by any other retro handheld manufacturer.
@@auspex9847 they havr a new gpd xp buy its basically a phone with built-in controllers
I've been having no issues with most of the ps2 games I've tried, you might have to tinker with the settings a little but I've got everything from Battlefront II to Prince of Persia to Burnout running just fine on my flip
I have a Retroid Pocket 3+, and I haven't had much trouble emulating PS2 games, either. I've tried a couple that were a bit too rough, but most have been perfectly playable. It was very strange to hear him completely write it off like that. Same goes for Gamecube and 3DS; I've gotten many games to play just fine with a bit of tweaking.
@@army103 wulff isn't much of the software tinkering type. He does hardware mods but I rarely see him doing much with emulator settings on a per game basis. His videos on these devices are more to get an idea of how things run on stock setups and default emulator settings.
Had this preordered, and after dealing with their piss customer service for a month after losing my order and then not wanting to refund me, I'll never deal with Retroid again. Thankfully used PayPal to preorder, so they were able to refund me from their end. Was so excited for this and the clear grip case.
4:50 if you want the +180° on the flip you can just break the 2 little stopper behind the screen.
Personally I think ALL handhelds with thumbsticks should use the 3ds style circle pads.
This is an amazing coincidence, I came across my 3DS today and whilst I was checking it out I thought, I wonder if Nintendo’s next hardware release will be a Switch Pocket, same kind of size as the 3DS XL.
A few hours later and your video pops up.
Man that hinge angle is a HARD dealbreaker for me, that's just awful
Ikr. It was like such a half assed job. Why couldn’t they just mimic Nintendo all the way if they wanted to… such a bummer. If it was me I might accidentally snap off the screen by accident one day playing with it cos I forget it’s not my 3DS.
still rocking my 2+ works fine can still play everything i want it to when i want something smaller, my steam deck takes care of the more difficult to run games
3:38 I think it is using iPhone 6 screen that's why it has 750p resolution
I think you missed the Powkiddy V90 Bob..that was a pretty sturdy clamshell device
I actually like the screen locks at certain degree I’ve always hated seeing the DS opened all the way, also the 2dsxl screen and hinge terrible but was my favorite handheld for long game I could see my self enjoying this device
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I'm excited to see the Retroid Pocket Flip 😊
Anyone else notice there's a spot for a second screen RIGHT THERE! Maybe..........that's where it'll be on the flip 2 next month.
I'm waiting for my second upgraded plastics and design Pocket Flip... I sent the first broken console to Retroid; it was broken for 3 different parts: hinge, directional cross and L triger.
I have one and really like it, so far. It's a sod to set up but once you do it's great. They say that you can use a 8bitDo sn30 pro controller with it, but whilst it connects, it does not work.
You can map the m1 and m2 buttons to home and back. Go into the system settings. Than handheld settings. Than input. From here you can map them
Id love to see this with a small touch pad/screen built into the bottom like a PS4/dreamcast hybrid
The ads are always on point. Zim is the best co-star. By the by, STILL waiting on a Analogue Pocket. I kind of want to pick up a Miyoo Mini or something in the interim, but the minute I find one for a not insane price, the Pocket will ship...
If they make an upgraded Flip with the same specs as the Odin I'll hop on it so quick lol
something ive been wondering for the longest time, why hasnt anyone made a modern version of the 3ds. give me a dual screen android device in a 3ds form factor and ill buy it in a heartbeat, that one microsoft duo thing was the closest ive seen.
I agree in 100%
"just make a new 3DS 4head"
Pretty sure atm there are patents and such that prevent that, not to mention the manufacturing is a bit rougher if you want something more powerful than a 2013/2015 handheld.
Retroid pocket 3+ and flip are fantastic PSP emulation machines.
Also they run Windwaker on Gamecube surprisingly well.
I actually ordered the "Sport Red" edition and got # 0071. Haven't used it as it's up for sale. Also have an Odin Pro that's awesome but not a clam shell.
"I wouldnt recommend it for GameCube"
Me while watching the video and playing GameCube in Fullscreen on the Flip: Works kinda good tho 👀
Wow, TIL that people actually over-opened the 3DS/GBASP hinges and even ascribe an actual use to it.
I play a lot of GameCube games on my rp flip and it works fine. And have a couple of PS2 games as well.
I'd love this device if it had six face action buttons a la Nomad or Saturn instead of four. Other than space constraints I never did figure out why console makers (including Sega with Dreamcast) ultimately chose four face buttons.
The Anbernic Arc-D just launched with exactly this if you didn’t know!
These consoles are getting super close to becoming amazing im just gonna wait until they add a second screen because as soon as they get dual screen stuff into these thing im going to buy hundreds maybe thousands if i can
Review linus' joystick covers in a short please
I could be wrong, but I imagine NIntendo has a patent on the dual screen thing. Could be the reason why these companies haven't done it.
I love clams
Im surprised the GameCube doesn't work well, I emulate it on my phone no problem and I'd think a dedicated gaming handheld would at least have the same power as as a regular smartphone.
It CAN run GameCube well. You just have to tweak a few settings for some games but you can get a lot of them working great.
10:00 that cable is basically a security device.
The screen actually isn't that bad. The viewing angles are pretty wide so it works, and the thumb pads are fine (as long as you aren't playing fps games. But other than that, they're fine.)
the m1 and m2 buttons are easily assigned as inputs in emulators, wonder why u had a problem with that
This kind of handhelds are designed to have many revisions just for the sake of saying they innovate everytime they have a new product. What kind of conventions they attend to?
i heard you can remove the plastic stoppers at the back to make the screen go further back without issue
Oh I read online and saw a lot of places that it plays most GameCube (PAL games) very well. Not perfect, but good/great.
I’m still on the RP2+ but need to sell it as it doesn’t get used - my Switch is getting all my gaming time.
I've literally never opened my ds screen all the way
Ngl, this video was my tipping point to get an emulation device while I wait for my analogue pocket
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Chinesium. Wait 3 weeks for the sequel to come out.
With a little more work your better off buying an LG velvet 5g off ebay which is a dual screen phone with way way better specs than retro pocket flip.
Then you can spend a little more for a controller that grips the phone for $60 - $90.
It even runs Android 13 and can actually run 3DS games. Heck if you want to spend a little more you can get an LG V60 with dual screen and blow away any game.
These phones even have headphone jack and micro SD card support.
Im new to emulation and got mine today and i got that white screen and was like whaaa. Had to fight the urge to put it back in the box and sell it
I remember loving the GPD XD. I still have it. Now with the steamdeck I can't justify any other handheld purchase
Nothing says "Throw me directly in the trash." like a charge only USB cable.
Id like an emulation device that has dual screens so i can use it for Ds emulation and just so i can multitask while playing any other game
Retroid, Hemroid, too-maytoid, too-mahtoid
I'm definitely waiting for the 3.5 plus ultra dancing all night edition 😂
You arent supposed to open clam shell consoles all the way back like that. Eventually it will break the stopping point in the hinges and become sloppy.
I dont buyed exactly because flip bad angle you mention, I love to play NDS "flat" that its not possible in RPF.
You make a pretty strong point with the hinge not going all the way back. That’s a deal breaker for me. I can see that annoying me.
That's a plump puppy
Everyone trying to make a device they can emulate anything at low price brackets is Kinda difficult to pull off
Clampshell Emulation cames back to Android!!!
Seems they found use for all those iPhone 6, 6s, 7, 8...replacement screens
Think I will stick with the miyoo for now. I love how pocketable it is but for long play sessions it cramps the hands so bad
I was gonna get either a new Nintendo 3DS xl or this retroid pocket flip, but I’m gonna wait for when they make the newest edition!
you need to make an animation of being consumed by the pile of these retroid consoles as every incremental update they send to you or you buy?
750x1334 is an iPhone 6-8 resolution. I think they using old stock of third party LCD replacements for iPhones.
I'd rather wait until the RP4/RP4+ comes out so i can have the true gaming handheld gaming experience thats probably under $200
I thought it was the ZFlip 4 for a second 😂
Hope they add a tiny 2nd screen to it
the flip kinda reminds me of the GPD win handheld pcs
Can’t wait for a ghetto ds, I love the miyoo mini
I'd love if that blank space in the center of the bottom half could be used to store a microfiber cleaning cloth or like, a tethered microfiber cushion. Then you could always keep the screen clean, no prob!
It's where they'll stick a small touch screen on the one they release next month. Soon as this one gets to everyones house.
These handhelds haven’t changed with what games rhey can play for years now.
If a company comes up one day with a small mendocino, steamos based handheld for 250$ all this devices will become completely irrelevant.
What do you recommend that is not clamshell with the buttons on the side?
Does it pass the Yoshi's Island test?!?! I won't be able to sleep tonight
For a rookie like me, what would be the best device to buy if I wanted to emulate classic Resident Evils and maybe even PS2 and/or GameCube?
With all these budget handhelds, They put so much effort in looks, controls, screens etc but really matters CPU and Memory speeds/size is just a bit underwhelming, Really things like N64, Xbox, PS1,PS2 should play perfectly now if not , don't include the emulators for it.
I kinda like this form factor.
Btw i get take out because i set fire to my kitchen 4 times and been redecorated each time. I forget to turn stuff off. I cant use an oven. I am not gonna lie i am an idiot.
Does drastic have a multiplayer connection yet? If not does anyone know if it's ever going to be in the works?
Holy cow Gameboy advance SP XL
Umm, just like the last video, he's still wrong about PS2 and GameCube. Obviously it depends on what games you want to play but most of what I want to play on those systems you can easily tweak be anywhere from playable to damn near perfect. I picked one up largely to be able to play those systems (and Wii) and I haven't been disappointed. Sure, there are a few games that don't work that I'd like to have but I'm happy to deal with it until something comes along that can do it perfectly.
Gonna wait for a retroid flip+ lol😂
Wait for the Retroid pocket 4 flip ++. It might play more Ps2 games…Maybe
@wulff den what about the green tint issue on the switch oled. Why are all the TH-camrs so quiet about it? Some people have switch oled like youre wearing sunglasses with a big fat green tint filter.
I'd like to get one of these emulators to just play Majora's Mask and Pikmin/2 (maybe some SNES games), but wouldn't know which one to get.
I actually like the layout of the flip better that the one on the rp3+.
Oh man. I would pick up a dual screen version in a heartbeat if it can emulate ds/3ds.
i feel like android or linux are not designed for this. I can see it be done but it needs more development time than this fast paced industry allows. foldable phones dont even work nicely with every app and thats several android device brands that sell alot more units than retroid
really would have loved this thing if it had a lower screen
overall for everything steam deck or rog ally
I’m waiting for a machine that can play GameCube Rom’s for 100$ for now I’m using a cheap 3DS I scooped up locally :)
I haaaaaate cables that only do power. What a giant e-waste problem. Half the usb cables i get nowadays dont do data or only do limited power.
16:18 "Grip too!"
When will there be a two screen emulation handheld for DS?
they way it opend 140 instead of like 185 degrees is real bad just put my dsi to that lvl of open ness and yea its smaller but it was horrible to hold like that
how are you supposed to get to the home menu???