🛳 What did you think of "1899"?🛳 I also have a bunch of videos on "DARK" which you can check out here: th-cam.com/play/PLY9KJ1cFVs7jJAp-g_5K5FlIoKBtAO95q.html
I think the key to understand it is the story Maura tells the captain about her parents. It can be interpreted in two ways: either 1. her father is actually the creator of the simulation where he put her and her brother and everyone else in because he was obsessed with the human mind (I don't think so, there's some clues that Cairan is not her brother at all); OR 2. Maura is the program into which the creator's wife's mind has been transferred. Her "father" wanted to save her "mother" from some neurodegenerative disease, so he created a cage (simulation) for her mind in which he tries to cure her. Daniel may be the creator of this simulation trying to "wake up" Maura, but the simulation makes it difficult for him because it has become an AI and it won't let him take Maura out and unplug it.
I liked this show but I'm definitely getting tired of the current show drop model of 10 episodes of world building and setting up season 2. It's like we get half a season at a time. They are so worried about making a way for season 2 that they try to make confusing twists which don't help the story.
Olek's trauma- the landscape are early paraffin/kerosene mines. The taller structures in the back are precursors of today's oil wells. The place he emerges from is called 'kopanka' and it was a primitive shaft that was used to manually extract parrafin. It could be shallow but also quite deep. Olek speaks German- back then that would suggest he comes from southern part of Poland which was under Austrio-Hungarian rule - most likely Galicja, where paraffin/kerosene mining began in 19th century (it was after local man, Jan Józef Ignacy Łukasiewicz discovered its properties, and invented kerosene lamps). If you google 'wydobycie nafty XIX wiek' and look at images they are uncannigly similar to the scene we saw. He could also be from Bieszczady which could add interesting layers to his story. It is an area covering part of Carpathian mountains and has fascinating stories of a place where many cultures and historical groups coexisted peacefully until the end of 19th century so, well 1899...
@@ayushsrivastava1672 olek polish and speak German so he’s from polish people but not polish nation and that same place is where the oil stuff was found
@Trent Walker Well thats not what I said. I said that season two COULD!!! be a totally different genre and still be the same show. They COULD for example make it a Sci-Fi season without any/almost any mystery.
@Trent Walker Again. I'm not saying that it WILL be a different genre. I'm saying it COULD be a different genre. They COULD (potentially) totally skip the mystery part. Make it a Space sci fi season, and it would be totally different.
@Trent Walker the intention of my post was simply to mention, that it would be possible. And it would still make sense. Which is something a TV show usually couldn't to. It would be kind of ground breaking / revolutionary. I don't think, that they will do it either though.
As a fan of Dark , I really hope 1899 gets a second season so we can keep deep diving into what’s actually happening ang all the simulations . I love every episode, but episode 5 is my fav
Honestly even without a second season this first season perfectly concludes the story. It doesn't need another season. It's like Westworld where the first season is perfection but they kept adding more seasons cause the show was a hit but every season is worse than the last because there's no story left to tell and it's just serving refried beans.
@@bartbobo007 agreeed , while the first season would be great on its own the creators have said they already have a story planned out so I doubt it would turn into a shit show
When I watched “Making 1899” and realized how many different languages they where speaking I was AMAZED. They couldn’t understand each other but somehow it seemed like they could from their body language. This is the type of show I love. Sci-fi/ thriller/ mind bending show!! There are tons of hidden meanings and symbolisms in the show, this is the type of show you can watch twice and still catch things you didn’t notice the first time
I use subtitles a lot, and it was very helpful with this, but did you notice how they got kind of lazy with languages in the middle and all began speaking in English? Then it kind of came back towards the end. Weird.
One thing I noticed was the book "The Awakening" by Kate Chopin in Maura's room. I believe there were two insert shots in episode 6 where Maura goes into the tunnel and later Sebastion, Henry's servant. For those who don't know, this Novel is a feminist novel about rejecting marrital and parental life. There were more layers of it shown when Clemence rants about her dissatisfaction towards her marrital life then procedes to put on her husbands pants. In the novel, the main character ends up seeking freedom, by drowning herself in the ocean. Could this play a larger role in future seasons?
Yes, good catch!! The creators are a fan of feminist themes, if you’ve seen their other show Dark they also incorporated a few feminist literary elements including the Ancient Greek myth of Adriane, a story which, in the fictional universe of that show, had been turned into a stage play performed by one of the main female characters and was also basically played out onscreen in a very literal sense.
The Awakening was originally called A Solitary Soul and explored different ways a person could be in solitude because of the expectations of motherhood, ethnicity, marriage, social norms, and gender.
oh yes, because putting on pants and eventually sleeping with a man of a different race than you and not getting married with him is very feminist indeed
Nice! plus, they made him become one of the main characters just to kill him off so easily like that....quite odd i think. I think in the next season, he will have another huge roll.
Maura is 1899's version of HG Tannhaus. They both couldn't deal with the pain of loss then decided to create worlds where their sons could exist. But all they were successful at creating were cycles of pain and suffering.
@@AK.__ 1. How is inception similar to dark/1899? 2. This is just a theory, you prob didnt watch the show but at the end Maura woke up and relize that the real puppet master was her brother all along, not her not her father.
@@grossartus I actually watched the show. Why it as Inception - at the end we see Maura woke up in the space ship after some kind of sleep / dream / simulation / experiment . All what we saw previously - was fake / not real. All her memories and other's people - are fake / implanted memories. We even do not know, if such thing as "Elliot" existed or again, it fake. Maura's brother? We again have no idea if it something real, or implanted memories by some IA, which has same name. It's up to show creators now, to think how they want continue all thing.
It’s a good theory but why would she make the simulation on a boat and also with other people in it and in the beginning Elliot wasn’t even there until they found the prumitious
@@AK.__ wrong. Inception happens inside someone elses dream, and it can go deeper if the paricipants go inside other participants dream. Here is a similation the same for everyone, there is no "this is your dream/subconcious" each individual have their own implanted visions, it's not Mauras "dream"
You missed that Elliot is dead. According to Henry, the reason Maura created the simulation was so that she could live with her dying son forever. That's what the grave with the cross represented, and that's why Elliot hid there. It was his grave. In the simulation it was a bedroom/hiding spot.
I was wondering how many other people caught that. It’s a pretty important part of the story. It might be possible that Maura’s husband is also dead or non-existent, but he exists in the simulation. That’s why neither of them were there when she awoke and they both seem discolored and almost “grayish” compared to the other characters.
So what did that have to do with this crazy dramatic story and all the characters? Not just the main ones but the 1000 others? Couldn't she create a simulation that's like a damn beautiful island where she can enjoy it with her son forever? Why this constricted ship with random weirdos and all of these side stories that have nothing to do with her or her son
The story is mostly Jantje Friese's mind, the infiniteness of which is aptly described by the quote at the start of the series. Baran bo Odar's genius is in the cinematography and in getting exceptional performances out of his actors.
This one of the most mind-twisting series I've ever seen. And not in a bad way. Thanks for the explanations, I've been scrambling for any answers since I finished the season 1 yesterday. I also love the multi-lingual aspect. It's especially cool when you realize that you can kinda understand bits and pieces of another language even without reading the subtitles.
I loved how olek & ling yi could basically understand each other perfectly the entire time even tho they were speaking polish & Cantonese & this was used to represent human love & connection which transcends cultural barriers. It may have been due to one of the many subtle glitches or bad translations of reality that were present in the simulation they were all stuck inside of…. But it was still so romantic and sweet!!
I really love the multilingual aspect as well, especially when they respond to each other and say completely unrelated stuff, but yet through nonverbal communication can still understand each other somewhat on an emotional level
Please put the popcorn a side while watching. Things will be clearer without "mind bending". Then read some books , believe me , they are smarter than Netflix show.
This show is literally Inception on CRACK. I hope that this show gets a second season because it has so much potential! I also really love how diverse the cast was and how they incorporated all their languages into it as well.
I think it will definitely get a second season. I heard the creators are basically setting it up the same way they did DARK, doing 3 maybe 4 seasons. Definitely a lot of story to tell.
It also blends in Titanic, Matrix and Dark City where they inject memories by syringe 💉 into people's neck. I watched this having no clue what it's about thinking it's gonna be like Titanic then thought it was a haunted ghost ship, a plague, vampires or zombies, Bermuda triangle but so glad it turned into a brilliant sci-fi mystery.
Notice in the end, Moura’s son is missing on the space ship. This could mean he was conceived inside the simulation. Moura created the ship simulation so she can stay close to her son and never wake up. But her father interferes and repeatedly makes her forget during each resets. Which causes her to use the key and wake up. Now her son only exists as a memory.
My interpretation was that her son died which is why they created that room where Daniel hides him and why Maura wanted to erase her memories with the simulation. He's not a real physical person, he only exists in the simulation.
Elliot is dead. According to Henry, the reason Maura created the simulation was so that she could live with her dying son forever. That's what the grave with the cross represented, and that's why Elliot hid there. It was his grave. In the simulation it was a bedroom/hiding spot.
If she created the stimulation to stay close to her son , then why dont she remember him even not a single bit ?? Calm down guys the season 2 will explain something till final season comes an we get it all
I think the point of the ship loop is to push humanity to evolve to make decisions out of logic and not emotion. Potentially emotion (love, hate, anger, jealousy…etc) is what pushed humanity to its downfall and now as they all travel to another planet, the ultimate goal is to evolve humanity away from that by changing how we think, perceive, and respond to the situations we are faced with. Maybe the only way out of the simulation is to make the correct decision and sink the ship, as they are told to do. This is the ultimate logical decision free of emotion. Henry says our emotions are what hold us back. I think it’s all a big experiment for humans to be better than we were before, and those who succeed can move on and colonize a new livable planet and not destroy it like we did earth.
Damn I've been thinking about your comment for a while, it's so well explained. The only thing I don't understand though is why would sinking the ship be the logical decision to make, for everyone? What's the purpose of sinking the ship? Also, _how_ do you even sink a ship that big?
The computer that Daniel programs in the 8th episode, drives down from the hatch in the ceiling in the machine room is a quantum computer - they look like this. They can calculate different realities simultaneously in superposition. For long space journeys it is assumed that it is best to put the crew in a twilight state (dream state) - in a kind of simulation, because otherwise they can not endure the long journey mentally and quantum computers would be suitable to calculate the dream state in real time. Only then ethical questions arise or what is real, what is simulated. Maybe the quantum computer is not working properly and has to be restarted or has not switched off in time. This would also explain why the passengers don't want to go back. Maybe the Earth doesn't exist anymore? Is it a generation spaceship? Or is everything only a simulation of a simulation...? I'm curious about the explanation in the 3rd season.
Holy crap, this is a fantastic analysis and explanation of this show. I've been clicking on so many "explained" videos for this show that don't actually explain ANYTHING. This video is great man. THANK YOU!!
I think your 'review'/breakdown is the best I've seen regarding "1899", at least here on TH-cam. The only thing you didn't mention was the other modern meaning for the word Kerberos. Wherein, "Kerberos is a computer network security protocol that authenticates service requests between two or more trusted hosts across an untrusted network, like the internet. It uses secret-key cryptography and a trusted third party for authenticating client-server applications and verifying users' identities." I'd argue the creators are certainly pointing to this meaning as well as the Greek Myth. Your pointing to Prometheus' punishment and the connection regarding the liver and emotions by the Ancient Greeks was brilliant and adds depth to the story being told by the film-makers.
After watching the trailer, I thought that they were stuck in the Bermuda triangle lol. Sucks they weren't, but the show was amazing. I watched it all in one setting, had to know what was going to happen next. Simply the best show on Netflix history.
I went into this blind but thought it was gonna be a cool Titanic kinda story. Then with each episode I thought oh it's a haunted ghost ship, oh wait it's a plague, oh maybe vampires or zombies (that gothic looking hubby seriously could pass for a vampire), gotta be Bermuda triangle, oh it's time travel or portal to other dimensions. Turns out I got it all wrong. I like a show that subverts expectations. LoL
So glad you guys made a video about 1899!! I LOVED it and I loved how slowly each characters backstory was introduced. I really didn’t see the end coming ❤
A nice little Easter egg they dropped is Olek coming out all covered in oil and in the background you can see the oil rigs. This suggests Olek is going to America with dreams to join his brother and get rich working in the booming oil industry which started around 1860 and by 1899 it was a huge growth industry where fortunes are made. Did anyone else pick up on this?
My first thought watching this scene was the scene in the first season of Dark when Jonas saw his father covered in black oil in the forest... I never understood what was it. I'm confused about this whole episode of 1899... what did they all see? Olek was at that point dead in the Kerberos simulation, so it was not his memory, right? So was it a glimpse of his "life" in one of the previous simulations that Ling Yi got to see because Daniel messed up connections between some simulations?
The scene should represent Olek's past (with someone he murdered and put into that oil bath), not his future. The landscape is definitely not Texas. It is likely Bóbrka, an early oil drilling site which now belongs to Poland but was part of Austria-Hungary back then.
I agree with you that the simulation's purpose is to awaken them based on a goal; but not when they leave emotions behind. I believe that the simulation aims to heal the traumas of humanity's survivors and that the show's based on sth like the triune brain theory (Dark was also obsessed with trinities). So, in a nutshell: Henry represents the logical part of the brain, he scorns emotion, can affect the simulation directly, stays in the control room where he observes everything and gives orders. Daniel represents emotion. He is constantly driven by it, regrets hurting others, affects the simulation through tricks and hacks, desperately wants Maura to wake up and to never forget some things. Elliot represents instinct, he speaks and acts only when Maura feels threatened. Logic and emotions try to manipulate him for their own goals and he is the one holding the pyramid which can actually wake up Maura. So, maybe the crew did horrible things to survive Earth's catastrophe and Maura may be behind the scientific discovery which led to it. Or perhaps pursued it because she could not let go of her deceased child (only Logic acknowledges this). Many interactions between Maura, Henry, Elliot, and Daniel make sense if you follow this line of thought. I fail to see where it could lead in season 2, apart from it beginning again on the ship, but from another character's perspective.
3 things: 1)I think that the people who received a letter are actually real people, while all the others are just AI Characters. 2) Also, I think this whole thing is a Humanity Rescue mission. I think that the space ship wants to bring all those people to a destination to start all over again. 3) I think Daniel and Elliot arent humans. They are also AI programms and I think Maura placed them there on purpose to help her to stay on track and to wake up at a certain point. What I ask myself the most is: 1) Why did Daniel use his device to "kill" the little Danish girl? 2) Why do all those people get mind controlled to jump from the ship?
I thought the mass self killing is maybe a point where all the not real people go out of program. And only the people with letters and traumas stay. Or it show that Daniel is more like a virus, spreading bugs
I think the show is about lost explorers trying to find earth again. The alchemical symbol for earth is an upside down pyramid with a line drawn across it. That symbol is all over the show. Also every passenger is written a letter telling them what is lost will be found again. Them crawling inside those dark holes represent how many times the ship(s) have entered black holes and now they are lost. The ships main quantum computer AI needs everyone’s brain linked in a simulation to form a hive mind so that it can figure out how to navigate the black holes the ship has gone through to find a pathway home to earth. The different simulations are just the number of times the AI has tried to find that path. I say ships because there will be a Kerberos space ship as well as a third space ship we have not been shown yet. Maybe Prometheus and Kerberos made it through one black hole while the third ship is either lost or left behind. Or maybe it’s the other way around and the third ship is the key. The villain doesn’t want them to find earth again for what reason I have not figured out yet. Daniel is definitely not Maura’s husband. He might be the brother and the captain is the husband. Or Daniel might be the AI represented as the father/husband/child Or maybe the space ships are just the next simulation 🤣 I need season 2, need to know what happens.
I think the simulations in season 1 were to find the prometheus (in sim), which gives the kerberos in reality the coordinates to find the prometheus in reality. The prometheus in reality was lost in space, Maura and everyone else was on it. Maura, from the prometheus, entered sim to the kerberos to locate themselves. Which is why in the sim Maura and Captain Eyk found their names on the prometheus passenger list. (This makes Eyk the captain of the real prometheus btw). The Villain is more than likely Maura's brother Ciaran. He usurped Maura while she was in sim and wiped her memory. I don't think Daniel is Ciaran but it's possible I guess.
Agreed with your Daniel point...he is definitely not a husband of her... because at the end of the series when she woke up in the space shuttle... They at one point mentioned that Daniel is no more...he was created by the one to awake Maura from simulation world
So. The Scarab is a symbol of resurrection and life and death. The pyramids and triangles can be a symbol of “opening your third eye” and seeing reality. The pods they are in also look like an Egyptian sarcophagus… this is very interesting! Thanks for the video.
I think the captain might be Elliot. Also love how the realistic approaches been taken by adding cost number from different countries and learn how to speak their own language truly awesome.
I like that theory, but what speaks against it is the different eye and hair colours. On other shows this wouldn't matter, but we're talking about the creators of Dark here, a show with meticulous casting for characters in their different ages. I'd be incredibly surprised if they paid so little attention to the details. On the other hand they don't got Simone Bär for the casting this time around, so who knows.
Eliot is clearly dead and only lives in the simulation. His mother and father created the simulation to cope with the loss. His room in the simulation is under a grave. It was also the first room his mother and father created. The line the old man used(cant remember his name): "She will always choose him(his father) over you". Because Eliot is not real
But if Elliott is already dead, why would the old man need to inject him to have him remember something his mother did in the past? An injection would suggest that Elliott is alive. Idk, I'm honestly confused. Lol Some things seem to be part of the physical world. Like the fact that they could physically peal part of a screen to reveal the ship's hull.
@@dcool2u2 Why would anyone need any injection or medical care. They are not really there, it's all in their head. Maybe they managed to extract his conscious, so that he is just like anyone else connect to the simulation
I have a feeling Elliot, Daniel and Henry are all the same person in the sense that it is the AI who encompasses all 3 personas in the simulation, and that the Mauras brother was actually real and the person who escaped...
I have a similar suspection that Elliot is not a real human child. Maybe he is the newest self-learning program created by both, Maura and Daniel... Maybe all other characters are also programs, with Henry being the oldest, prototype kind. I'm not sure about Maura. Daniel seems very human to me.
@@thenewkhan4781 I may be confused, but i thought Henry and Maura were the same person. Maura said she's Maura Henriette so her brother calle her henry. Why are you refering to them as different characteres. Am I lost?
Something tells me that Ciaran's "Welcome to reality" is lie. The simulation got hacked from inside and maybe Maura got transferred to another simulation. Jantje Friese said they want to do 3 seasons, so I guess in season 2 they won't arrive in the real world yet.
Same. I don't know who's Ciaran but it's pretty clear that Daniel is an outside player who's trying to achieve something in the simulation that wasn't programed in it initially. The space ship must be another simulation imo.
@@thenewkhan4781 another dark outside player was the vice captain, he used the same device like Daniel and also manipulated the ship simulation codes, but everyone here skipped about him 😑
@@thenewkhan4781 I dont think Daniel is an outside player at all, I think he and also Elliot are not human, I think they are AI programs just like all the other device users like Henry and Sebastian as well. Daniel's and Eliott's purpose is helping Maura. Ciaran is the main AI on the space ship.
Of course its a lie.. also why "Welcome to reality".. and not Welcome "back" to reality. (Were they never there?) And why they use the same old CRT monitors on a spaceship in 2099... Of course its not Real in the End. She also still has the Triangle in her Eye in the last shot.
I think that her having the key on her but not knowing what it does is meant to be subconsciously planting the escape, in the same way that someone would destory something without deeply thinking about it.
Random, but for some reason i think that Sebastian is actually Maura’s brother (the captain’s second hand that we found out is helping Maura’s father). They’re both red head and the actor and character are and speak german. When Daniel resets everything and Maura puts the ring in the pyramid, notice that Sebastian, Elliot and Maura’s father are the only ones who are not in the spaceship.
The date Maura exits simulation is the last day of the simulation I.e day 8 and that was Oct 19.. which means day 1 was October 11, I.e 1011, her room number.
Think story I truly look forward to your videos I think you are extremely silent and witty with how you introduce humor into your breakdowns. Continue to thrive can't wait to watch more!!! thank you
I think is wierd that the voice that says " wake up" everytime a character wakes up from they're dreams/ memories is Maura's voice. Tbh idk what it could mean. For me with this director and write I always expect the unexpected.
A really interesting fact I learned on line is that the ship's name "Kerberos" is not the "Cerberos" the three headed Greek hound of Hades. Kerberos is instead a computer term for authentication protocol. It requires a trusted third party to mutually authenticate both a user and a server's identity.
No, Kerberos IS the Greek hound of Hades. That's EXACTLY how it is written (ok, transliterated to be precise), and that is EXACTLY how it pronounced. It might come as a shock to you but the people in Greece speak Greek language, not English.
@@U99DrunkDinosaur It might come as a shock to you it is also a computer term spelled with a "k". This was not my observation but one of a film critic who explored in depth the whole plot and all it's hidden meanings. The ship is a simulation thus the computer interpretation is better suited for it than the hound of hell with three heads which in German is actually spelled "Zerberus". It's a German ship company so you would expect it to be spelled like that for this series unless they in fact wanted to imply a more modern meaning as a computer term. I watched almost 3 hours of break downs about this series and shared this comment to help other people think of new ways to see the plot not to act superior and belittle random strangers I don't know on line. Both my parents are German so maybe we could forgo the belittling of Americans.
I swear reading all of these comments and digging into the comments of comments and hearing everyone’s theories and interpretations are taking my mind into different simulations😂😂 what videos would you recommend to help explain this as simple as it can be ?
Very interested in how Elliot and Daniel move around in the simulations and what they have been doing for all of the dozens of them, hope they go more into it during Season 2
I have a hypothesis.. The ship is a "prison" and the passengers are being subjected to conditioning similar to the "phantom zone" in Superman. I remember reading an article about the possibility of people serving their prison sentences in a virtual reality that makes them FEEL like a certain amount of time has passed.
Sorry to copy, but I just LOVE what I read here: Friese and bo Odar have ideas for two more seasons, with increased complexity compared to season 1.[2] The planned three-season structure stems from Friese's and bo Odar's film background, where films have three acts.[7] The first season served to establish the theme and characters and pose big questions.[7] If ordered by Netflix, the second season would explain the symbology of the triangles, and Maura's brother would be an important character.[7] bo Odar described this second act as "all about the fun and games, where you play with the theme, and maybe get a little bit more megalomaniacal and crazy, and then resolve it in the third season into a hopefully satisfying resolution."[7] SOOOOO HYPED for the next seasons, no question Netflix ordering them ! 🎉🎉😂
Completing your theory of her brother not being a person and being AI, I think the survival mission is to send passengers of many different nationalities like a Noah’s ark for humans. And also I believe that there’s a slight possibility of Elliot and Henry being the same person or being both Characters created by AI as both dress similarly and are the ones that show the fewer emotions (almost zero) during all season 1.
When Daniel had his hand held gizmo attached to the wires just before the Big fella hit him with a shovel. The Big man seemed astonished when he seen the Obviously very modern torch 👀😬
I think there were just too many loose ends in this show. They tried to do a million things, and it ended up so confusing. Everyone has a different take and explanation for this show. Each episode introduced a new twist before explaining/solving the one before it. For example: Why did Daniel kill the little girl in the beginning?
I think that's because its meant to be a 3 season arc. The writers have already mapped out all the seasons and the ending of the story, which is why they didn't want to answer all the questions in the first season itself. It's similar to how the story was told in Dark which is by the same people and also had a 3 season arc. There's a lot of questions and confusion and suspense throughout. When some questions are answered, immediately new ones arise and not every answer is given in the same season. You'll notice they also didn't explore the backstories of Angel, Ramiro, Clemence, and Olek. It's all to create intrigue for what comes next and by the end of the last season, every single thing will make sense.
I'm thinking Daniel killed the girl to set the events in motion that would eventually lead to mutiny. Seeing the dead girl was kinda the last straw for the bald guy with scars on his face (I forget his name), who was already doubting Captain's decisions. And it also angered the Danish people in 3rd class, so they were easier to convince to revolt. What I don't get is why does Daniel need to maintain the sequence of events? Why does it all need to happen that way? What if they didn't revolt and followed the Captain?
My Theory: I think we arrived in 2099 and the next Season will be called that! So I think it will just be another Simulation! So where does the Simluation lead after that? I think I have it! There is some Music in the show that doesn't fit the 1899 or 2099 timeline... but it would fit right into the 70ies of the 19th century hence 1999! (Someone grewing up with them would be 20-30 in 1999) So I think it will ultimately end in a triology, making 1999 the last season! The Song examples: White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane 1967 Child in Time -Deep Purple 1969 Killing Moon - Echo and the Bunnymen 1984 The Reaper - Blue Öyster Cult 1976 The Wizard - Black Sabbath 1970 Adding on top of that! the episode names are so vague! I wonder if the episode names just repeat with a different meaning! I mean in the first Episode of Season 2 we will start again with "The Ship", because we are on a Spaceship! So maybe in Season 3 1999 we will Land of a Modern Boat (or a flying ship?) on the Ocean again!
I agree with you. The technical equipment is from the seventies, the computers in Henry's room and the computerdisplay and type of letters in the spaceship also. 1423 passengers plus 550 crew is 1973. So 1973 could be the real date.
Personally I think it’s more likely that “daniel” or “eyk” are hiding something rather than Henry. Loved the video and speculation! Fascinating show overall and I am gonna have to be patient for season 2! (it will come don’t worry!)
ciaran being an ai makes a lot of sense! Since, we never (as far as we know) see Ciaran in the simulation. And when Maura confronts her father and asks "where is Ciaran", he says, "that hardly matters" Would be a very nice season 2 twist.
Possible, but I don't think so. He said he was the last person she should worry about. If what Daniel says is true. That Cairan hijacked the simulation, then what the Father said makes sense. The whole time Maura has thought her Father has done something to her brother, when all along, her brother is the one that has them trapped. He does refer to Cairan as her brother more then once. When talking about Seekers and Avoiders, he said contrary to her brother, Maura was born a Seeker.
All of the passengers memories also can't be their own memories, which I find strange. The simulation put them on a ship in 1899 then made them revisit the past traumas that the simulation created.
Is it just me? like why this reminds me so much of sucker punch? after finishing the series, I was like 'this is sucker punch meets 13th floor!' I'm really excited for season 2!
Even first season of dark seems to not have a perfect ending but following seasons are very good.. I hope this series also will be blockbuster like dark.. I never thought I could ever get those glimpse again I had when I was watching dark..
Two things - 1) was the weird meat thing on the platter in the first episode liver? 2) Anyone else think the roses on Clemente’s dress was another nod to Titanic?
So, Henry is played by the same actor who played Qyburn in Game of Thrones. Qyburn is an unethical former maester who was thrown out of the order for conducting illegal human experimentation. I know actors don’t want to be “type-cast” but he really plays creepy mad scientist really well.
Also check him out in Andor where he plays the head of the Empires Imperial Security Bureau. The actor is just really good at playing terrifying sophisticated villains.
I've just Bingewatched the serie, waiting for the moment that they all suddenly could understand each other while speaking their own language. Thanks for the explaining though. Also a reason i din't get off the "1899 Ship" was because a great cliffhanger at the end of every episode. And ... the soundtrack!!
when the captain mentioned about humans been to the highest mountains and havent explored the depth of the ocean it was like what the hell the year was around 1899 and there isnt anyone who has climbed the top mountains at the time but after the season finale it was clear....
One thing that makes me question the spaceship being just another simulation are the 'Pods' that were holding everyone. That could be seen as just another 'inception device' like the Chair that Henry kept strapping Maura into in the other simulation. We see Maura waking up in the pod (along with everyone else being in one) so, obviously they had to also be put into them at some point. This is just like the function of the chair in the asylum simulation----i think it's just another conduit.
No, thats def. not the case imho. I think that her whole family (dad, husband, child) plus all other device users like Sebastian are AI programs. Also Ciaran is not her brother, its just the Space ship AI overlooking this whole space mission.
1899, is very like a series called Life on Mars. The final episode of Life on Mars is the same, in a rocket to mars, awakening from a simulation. This situation is different, but there are similitudes like the conflict between father and son. Also the UK version of 2006, the soundtrack is from David Bowie, as the final episode of 1899. The multiple plots in 1899, suspense, each character with their traumas, and all the unanswered themes are an improvement in this story. Visually beautiful, some steampunk elements, are very phenomenal. So, I wish to see a continuation.
A few things: 1) she says the letter is addressed to her using her middle name, Henry, and then her father turns out be Henry? Hmmmm 2) At the beginning, she says that the year is "19..." hesitates and then says "1899" Maybe one season will have them in 1999? Since they jump from 1899 to 2099? Hopefully these are answered but please throw any theories my way
Maybe her father Henry was actually programmed to be in her place and she programmed herself to be at the control room with the many desktops.. and somehow her dad managed to twist their places. Then it would have make sense that she programmed the simulation herself. Because she thought she would have the control
I personally think the final scene was part of another simulation. The computer screen Maura recieved the message from her brother on seemed a little... Off. Didn't look that futuristic... No doubt 1899 will get a second season because it's apparently a huge hit right now Overall 1899 was quite enjoyable and pretty mental but it's not on Dark's level though. I don't think these creators will ever be able to match that masterpiece.
What do you mean by Titanic?? The only common thread here I can see is that they were both young, blonde, pregnant, with abusive parents. And that’s only Tove’s character in the simulation lol it has nothing to do with her real life as a passenger asleep on the spaceship
Olek emerging from tar pit - Poland didn't exist at that time. Russia, Prussia and Austria/Hungary occupied teritory of Poland. Polish people from russian part were send to gulags, mosly in Siberia, for "crimes" against regime. Tar pit was one of the punishments in gulags for criminals.
Why did Maura's husband kill the Danish girl, the first person, who died on the ship? It was heavily implied that he did it, he apologized to her first. Which means all the other people dying later could be because of him as well. And we never find out how they died exactly or how the hell it could have benefited him.
He didn't kill her, he unplugged her. When Maura touched the girl in the first episode she had a flashback of a scarab. Imo Ada was not a real person, but some kind of key opening/activating something in the simulation. That or Daniel did it to cause the mutiny.
@@Ira__L Daniel mentioned to Elliot at various points that they have never come this far, in the simulation. They have done it many times over (before the events of the show) and therefore Daniel knew what he had to do - Ada is the spark that ignites the mutiny.
About the number of Maura's room, 1011. Can it be a code? Like Morse code? When 1 is a dot and 0 is a dash? Then her room probably has letters AI(or ED, RE and other), maybe Maura is AI?
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Am I the only one thinking this is a weird prequel to Prometheus/Alien????
I think the key to understand it is the story Maura tells the captain about her parents. It can be interpreted in two ways: either 1. her father is actually the creator of the simulation where he put her and her brother and everyone else in because he was obsessed with the human mind (I don't think so, there's some clues that Cairan is not her brother at all); OR 2. Maura is the program into which the creator's wife's mind has been transferred. Her "father" wanted to save her "mother" from some neurodegenerative disease, so he created a cage (simulation) for her mind in which he tries to cure her. Daniel may be the creator of this simulation trying to "wake up" Maura, but the simulation makes it difficult for him because it has become an AI and it won't let him take Maura out and unplug it.
@@Themuskychannel yes
Does any one else think her brother is actually artificial intelligence computer running the ship
I liked this show but I'm definitely getting tired of the current show drop model of 10 episodes of world building and setting up season 2. It's like we get half a season at a time. They are so worried about making a way for season 2 that they try to make confusing twists which don't help the story.
Olek's trauma- the landscape are early paraffin/kerosene mines. The taller structures in the back are precursors of today's oil wells. The place he emerges from is called 'kopanka' and it was a primitive shaft that was used to manually extract parrafin. It could be shallow but also quite deep. Olek speaks German- back then that would suggest he comes from southern part of Poland which was under Austrio-Hungarian rule - most likely Galicja, where paraffin/kerosene mining began in 19th century (it was after local man, Jan Józef Ignacy Łukasiewicz discovered its properties, and invented kerosene lamps). If you google 'wydobycie nafty XIX wiek' and look at images they are uncannigly similar to the scene we saw. He could also be from Bieszczady which could add interesting layers to his story. It is an area covering part of Carpathian mountains and has fascinating stories of a place where many cultures and historical groups coexisted peacefully until the end of 19th century so, well 1899...
This should have more likes.
Plus the first mining shaft was discovered in Poland
Can you explain this in layman terms?
@@ayushsrivastava1672 olek polish and speak German so he’s from polish people but not polish nation and that same place is where the oil stuff was found
Thanks. I knew the seen was important. But sadly dont know enough of history. To full understand the scene.
I love, that season two could be a totally different genre and still be the same show. That's kinda amazing.
@Trent Walker Well thats not what I said.
I said that season two COULD!!! be a totally different genre and still be the same show. They COULD for example make it a Sci-Fi season without any/almost any mystery.
Jokes on you. This show is gonna get cancelled. 🤣
@Trent Walker Again. I'm not saying that it WILL be a different genre. I'm saying it COULD be a different genre. They COULD (potentially) totally skip the mystery part. Make it a Space sci fi season, and it would be totally different.
@Trent Walker the intention of my post was simply to mention, that it would be possible. And it would still make sense. Which is something a TV show usually couldn't to. It would be kind of ground breaking / revolutionary.
I don't think, that they will do it either though.
@Trent Walker within the same show? Hm I would. Are there any shows that did that? I honestly don't know.
so bummed there will NOT be a season 2! Dying to know what the heck is happening. Thanks Netflix!
Nothing happened. It was a simulation. Nothing actually happens in reality during a computer simulation
It was boring
This show is like the matrix, inception, and interstellar had a baby. It’s phenomenal, mind bending, and exceptional. I hope there’s a season 2!
and Maniac!
add shutter island, especially with last image of intro being lobotomy to maura :)
and Lost
And a little bit of Titanic!
Reminded me of manifest and lost
As a fan of Dark , I really hope 1899 gets a second season so we can keep deep diving into what’s actually happening ang all the simulations . I love every episode, but episode 5 is my fav
Honestly even without a second season this first season perfectly concludes the story. It doesn't need another season. It's like Westworld where the first season is perfection but they kept adding more seasons cause the show was a hit but every season is worse than the last because there's no story left to tell and it's just serving refried beans.
@@jonfreeman9682 If you watched Dark, then you can safely assume the creators have a story ready that is well thought IF they make additional seasons
@@bartbobo007 agreeed , while the first season would be great on its own the creators have said they already have a story planned out so I doubt it would turn into a shit show
Me too!
@@jonfreeman9682 worst take ever
When I watched “Making 1899” and realized how many different languages they where speaking I was AMAZED. They couldn’t understand each other but somehow it seemed like they could from their body language. This is the type of show I love. Sci-fi/ thriller/ mind bending show!! There are tons of hidden meanings and symbolisms in the show, this is the type of show you can watch twice and still catch things you didn’t notice the first time
Watch this twice? Well.... you'll find additional triangle somewhere.
@@AK.__ you’ll find more than that 😉
watch with subtitles lol
@@AK.__ by watching it twice they are continuing the loop 😳
I use subtitles a lot, and it was very helpful with this, but did you notice how they got kind of lazy with languages in the middle and all began speaking in English? Then it kind of came back towards the end. Weird.
One thing I noticed was the book "The Awakening" by Kate Chopin in Maura's room. I believe there were two insert shots in episode 6 where Maura goes into the tunnel and later Sebastion, Henry's servant. For those who don't know, this Novel is a feminist novel about rejecting marrital and parental life. There were more layers of it shown when Clemence rants about her dissatisfaction towards her marrital life then procedes to put on her husbands pants. In the novel, the main character ends up seeking freedom, by drowning herself in the ocean. Could this play a larger role in future seasons?
Yes, good catch!! The creators are a fan of feminist themes, if you’ve seen their other show Dark they also incorporated a few feminist literary elements including the Ancient Greek myth of Adriane, a story which, in the fictional universe of that show, had been turned into a stage play performed by one of the main female characters and was also basically played out onscreen in a very literal sense.
Yes they point out that book twice I think there's def a reason behind it knowing the director's
Was also published in 1899
The Awakening was originally called A Solitary Soul and explored different ways a person could be in solitude because of the expectations of motherhood, ethnicity, marriage, social norms, and gender.
oh yes, because putting on pants and eventually sleeping with a man of a different race than you and not getting married with him is very feminist indeed
has anyone noticed that Eyk's name can be rearranged to the word KEY? It's been driving me insane since i noticed.
nicely watched!!!
Nice! plus, they made him become one of the main characters just to kill him off so easily like that....quite odd i think. I think in the next season, he will have another huge roll.
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yeah, and "Daniel" is an anagram of "Denial", with his surname being "Solace"... strong indication he is not who he says he is.
And the name Ling Yi could also be interpreted as 01 in Chinese, which is binary for computer codes
Maura is 1899's version of HG Tannhaus. They both couldn't deal with the pain of loss then decided to create worlds where their sons could exist. But all they were successful at creating were cycles of pain and suffering.
You right, the imagination of show's authors not very rich. They took it from "Inception" (2010).
@@AK.__ 1. How is inception similar to dark/1899?
2. This is just a theory, you prob didnt watch the show but at the end Maura woke up and relize that the real puppet master was her brother all along, not her not her father.
@@grossartus I actually watched the show. Why it as Inception - at the end we see Maura woke up in the space ship after some kind of sleep / dream / simulation / experiment . All what we saw previously - was fake / not real. All her memories and other's people - are fake / implanted memories. We even do not know, if such thing as "Elliot" existed or again, it fake. Maura's brother? We again have no idea if it something real, or implanted memories by some IA, which has same name. It's up to show creators now, to think how they want continue all thing.
It’s a good theory but why would she make the simulation on a boat and also with other people in it and in the beginning Elliot wasn’t even there until they found the prumitious
@@AK.__ wrong. Inception happens inside someone elses dream, and it can go deeper if the paricipants go inside other participants dream. Here is a similation the same for everyone, there is no "this is your dream/subconcious" each individual have their own implanted visions, it's not Mauras "dream"
You missed that Elliot is dead. According to Henry, the reason Maura created the simulation was so that she could live with her dying son forever. That's what the grave with the cross represented, and that's why Elliot hid there. It was his grave. In the simulation it was a bedroom/hiding spot.
I was wondering how many other people caught that. It’s a pretty important part of the story. It might be possible that Maura’s husband is also dead or non-existent, but he exists in the simulation. That’s why neither of them were there when she awoke and they both seem discolored and almost “grayish” compared to the other characters.
That as obvious tho.
Am kinda really sad reading that. I really hope Elliot still has some chance to live in season 2 pls. 🥲
So what did that have to do with this crazy dramatic story and all the characters? Not just the main ones but the 1000 others? Couldn't she create a simulation that's like a damn beautiful island where she can enjoy it with her son forever? Why this constricted ship with random weirdos and all of these side stories that have nothing to do with her or her son
@@nawal10 maybe that’s the only part she understood haha 😂 only hanna
Jantje Friese and Baran bo Odar minds are a fucking gift to humanity. Thank you for telling us great stories 😁
The story is mostly Jantje Friese's mind, the infiniteness of which is aptly described by the quote at the start of the series. Baran bo Odar's genius is in the cinematography and in getting exceptional performances out of his actors.
Not really. Check Black Silence Comic
@@iLucianDiaconescu its fucking fake
@@iLucianDiaconescu I'm sorry to the author but the black pyramid and the triangles in the eyes are the only similarities.
This one of the most mind-twisting series I've ever seen. And not in a bad way.
Thanks for the explanations, I've been scrambling for any answers since I finished the season 1 yesterday.
I also love the multi-lingual aspect. It's especially cool when you realize that you can kinda understand bits and pieces of another language even without reading the subtitles.
I loved how olek & ling yi could basically understand each other perfectly the entire time even tho they were speaking polish & Cantonese & this was used to represent human love & connection which transcends cultural barriers.
It may have been due to one of the many subtle glitches or bad translations of reality that were present in the simulation they were all stuck inside of…. But it was still so romantic and sweet!!
@@g.h.7661 It's almost like they knew each other... from previous simulations?
I really love the multilingual aspect as well, especially when they respond to each other and say completely unrelated stuff, but yet through nonverbal communication can still understand each other somewhat on an emotional level
Please put the popcorn a side while watching. Things will be clearer without "mind bending". Then read some books , believe me , they are smarter than Netflix show.
This show is literally Inception on CRACK. I hope that this show gets a second season because it has so much potential! I also really love how diverse the cast was and how they incorporated all their languages into it as well.
@@hfm2599 I assumed so since Dark was also a 3 season epic too.
I think it will definitely get a second season. I heard the creators are basically setting it up the same way they did DARK, doing 3 maybe 4 seasons. Definitely a lot of story to tell.
It's 3 seasons planned
It also blends in Titanic, Matrix and Dark City where they inject memories by syringe 💉 into people's neck. I watched this having no clue what it's about thinking it's gonna be like Titanic then thought it was a haunted ghost ship, a plague, vampires or zombies, Bermuda triangle but so glad it turned into a brilliant sci-fi mystery.
Notice in the end, Moura’s son is missing on the space ship. This could mean he was conceived inside the simulation. Moura created the ship simulation so she can stay close to her son and never wake up. But her father interferes and repeatedly makes her forget during each resets. Which causes her to use the key and wake up. Now her son only exists as a memory.
My interpretation was that her son died which is why they created that room where Daniel hides him and why Maura wanted to erase her memories with the simulation. He's not a real physical person, he only exists in the simulation.
i understood that something happpened to him (died) so she trapped his consciousnes in the simulation
Elliot is dead. According to Henry, the reason Maura created the simulation was so that she could live with her dying son forever. That's what the grave with the cross represented, and that's why Elliot hid there. It was his grave. In the simulation it was a bedroom/hiding spot.
@@FieryFlamingFajitas 💯... Elliot exists only in simulation and i think Daniel too...he is'nt real
If she created the stimulation to stay close to her son , then why dont she remember him even not a single bit ?? Calm down guys the season 2 will explain something till final season comes an we get it all
I think the point of the ship loop is to push humanity to evolve to make decisions out of logic and not emotion. Potentially emotion (love, hate, anger, jealousy…etc) is what pushed humanity to its downfall and now as they all travel to another planet, the ultimate goal is to evolve humanity away from that by changing how we think, perceive, and respond to the situations we are faced with. Maybe the only way out of the simulation is to make the correct decision and sink the ship, as they are told to do. This is the ultimate logical decision free of emotion. Henry says our emotions are what hold us back. I think it’s all a big experiment for humans to be better than we were before, and those who succeed can move on and colonize a new livable planet and not destroy it like we did earth.
Yes! Like the ones who actually wake up from the reality will be the ones that get to recolonize
This totally make sense
Paramount could buy it from Netflix and turn it into a Star Trek origin story: They all end up colonizing the planet Vulcan. 😁
Damnnnn sis thas a good ass theory
Damn I've been thinking about your comment for a while, it's so well explained.
The only thing I don't understand though is why would sinking the ship be the logical decision to make, for everyone? What's the purpose of sinking the ship?
Also, _how_ do you even sink a ship that big?
The computer that Daniel programs in the 8th episode, drives down from the hatch in the ceiling in the machine room is a quantum computer - they look like this. They can calculate different realities simultaneously in superposition. For long space journeys it is assumed that it is best to put the crew in a twilight state (dream state) - in a kind of simulation, because otherwise they can not endure the long journey mentally and quantum computers would be suitable to calculate the dream state in real time. Only then ethical questions arise or what is real, what is simulated. Maybe the quantum computer is not working properly and has to be restarted or has not switched off in time. This would also explain why the passengers don't want to go back. Maybe the Earth doesn't exist anymore? Is it a generation spaceship? Or is everything only a simulation of a simulation...? I'm curious about the explanation in the 3rd season.
Daniel is like Hall I think. This kind of computer or AI.
I, too can't wait for the final explanation in season 4
@@the_nows Me too. Very excited for the explanation in the 5th season
Good catch, i should have realized this.
Holy crap, this is a fantastic analysis and explanation of this show. I've been clicking on so many "explained" videos for this show that don't actually explain ANYTHING. This video is great man. THANK YOU!!
I think your 'review'/breakdown is the best I've seen regarding "1899", at least here on TH-cam.
The only thing you didn't mention was the other modern meaning for the word Kerberos. Wherein, "Kerberos is a computer network security protocol that authenticates service requests between two or more trusted hosts across an untrusted network, like the internet. It uses secret-key cryptography and a trusted third party for authenticating client-server applications and verifying users' identities." I'd argue the creators are certainly pointing to this meaning as well as the Greek Myth. Your pointing to Prometheus' punishment and the connection regarding the liver and emotions by the Ancient Greeks was brilliant and adds depth to the story being told by the film-makers.
After watching the trailer, I thought that they were stuck in the Bermuda triangle lol. Sucks they weren't, but the show was amazing. I watched it all in one setting, had to know what was going to happen next. Simply the best show on Netflix history.
Why does everyone says it sucks it’s not in the Bermuda triangle? How would that be more interesting?
they are instead stuck in the space lol
@@medou2161 because unreal things would be real,where in this case unreal is just "dream"..
I went into this blind but thought it was gonna be a cool Titanic kinda story. Then with each episode I thought oh it's a haunted ghost ship, oh wait it's a plague, oh maybe vampires or zombies (that gothic looking hubby seriously could pass for a vampire), gotta be Bermuda triangle, oh it's time travel or portal to other dimensions. Turns out I got it all wrong. I like a show that subverts expectations. LoL
@@ulrickkamdem9728 the spaceship is probably another simulation...
I was in awe throughout all 8 episodes. Didnt want it to end
So glad you guys made a video about 1899!! I LOVED it and I loved how slowly each characters backstory was introduced. I really didn’t see the end coming ❤
A nice little Easter egg they dropped is Olek coming out all covered in oil and in the background you can see the oil rigs. This suggests Olek is going to America with dreams to join his brother and get rich working in the booming oil industry which started around 1860 and by 1899 it was a huge growth industry where fortunes are made. Did anyone else pick up on this?
Great analysis right there mate, absolutely did not think of that😊
Except those were all memories, not dreams of the future
My first thought watching this scene was the scene in the first season of Dark when Jonas saw his father covered in black oil in the forest... I never understood what was it. I'm confused about this whole episode of 1899... what did they all see? Olek was at that point dead in the Kerberos simulation, so it was not his memory, right? So was it a glimpse of his "life" in one of the previous simulations that Ling Yi got to see because Daniel messed up connections between some simulations?
Yeah I mean in the false memories that were created for him, that could definitely be the case.
The scene should represent Olek's past (with someone he murdered and put into that oil bath), not his future. The landscape is definitely not Texas. It is likely Bóbrka, an early oil drilling site which now belongs to Poland but was part of Austria-Hungary back then.
I think u r the only one who explained every doubt which really come to our mind after watching this series
I agree with you that the simulation's purpose is to awaken them based on a goal; but not when they leave emotions behind. I believe that the simulation aims to heal the traumas of humanity's survivors and that the show's based on sth like the triune brain theory (Dark was also obsessed with trinities). So, in a nutshell:
Henry represents the logical part of the brain, he scorns emotion, can affect the simulation directly, stays in the control room where he observes everything and gives orders.
Daniel represents emotion. He is constantly driven by it, regrets hurting others, affects the simulation through tricks and hacks, desperately wants Maura to wake up and to never forget some things.
Elliot represents instinct, he speaks and acts only when Maura feels threatened. Logic and emotions try to manipulate him for their own goals and he is the one holding the pyramid which can actually wake up Maura.
So, maybe the crew did horrible things to survive Earth's catastrophe and Maura may be behind the scientific discovery which led to it. Or perhaps pursued it because she could not let go of her deceased child (only Logic acknowledges this). Many interactions between Maura, Henry, Elliot, and Daniel make sense if you follow this line of thought. I fail to see where it could lead in season 2, apart from it beginning again on the ship, but from another character's perspective.
3 things:
1)I think that the people who received a letter are actually real people, while all the others are just AI Characters.
2) Also, I think this whole thing is a Humanity Rescue mission. I think that the space ship wants to bring all those people to a destination to start all over again.
3) I think Daniel and Elliot arent humans. They are also AI programms and I think Maura placed them there on purpose to help her to stay on track and to wake up at a certain point.
What I ask myself the most is:
1) Why did Daniel use his device to "kill" the little Danish girl?
2) Why do all those people get mind controlled to jump from the ship?
I thought the mass self killing is maybe a point where all the not real people go out of program. And only the people with letters and traumas stay. Or it show that Daniel is more like a virus, spreading bugs
@@saint8354 Nope, because Ling Yi's mother and Crester also jumped overboard.
@@markmauk8231 but did they have letters? Ling Yis Mom was just the memory of Ling Yi and Creste was the memory of the pregnant woman.
@@saint8354 Crester was in the Space Ship in the end
@@markmauk8231 good point. Then I better stick maybe with the theory that the suicide mass thing is virus based
I think the show is about lost explorers trying to find earth again. The alchemical symbol for earth is an upside down pyramid with a line drawn across it. That symbol is all over the show. Also every passenger is written a letter telling them what is lost will be found again.
Them crawling inside those dark holes represent how many times the ship(s) have entered black holes and now they are lost.
The ships main quantum computer AI needs everyone’s brain linked in a simulation to form a hive mind so that it can figure out how to navigate the black holes the ship has gone through to find a pathway home to earth. The different simulations are just the number of times the AI has tried to find that path.
I say ships because there will be a Kerberos space ship as well as a third space ship we have not been shown yet. Maybe Prometheus and Kerberos made it through one black hole while the third ship is either lost or left behind. Or maybe it’s the other way around and the third ship is the key.
The villain doesn’t want them to find earth again for what reason I have not figured out yet.
Daniel is definitely not Maura’s husband. He might be the brother and the captain is the husband. Or Daniel might be the AI represented as the father/husband/child
Or maybe the space ships are just the next simulation 🤣
I need season 2, need to know what happens.
I think the simulations in season 1 were to find the prometheus (in sim), which gives the kerberos in reality the coordinates to find the prometheus in reality. The prometheus in reality was lost in space, Maura and everyone else was on it. Maura, from the prometheus, entered sim to the kerberos to locate themselves. Which is why in the sim Maura and Captain Eyk found their names on the prometheus passenger list. (This makes Eyk the captain of the real prometheus btw).
The Villain is more than likely Maura's brother Ciaran. He usurped Maura while she was in sim and wiped her memory.
I don't think Daniel is Ciaran but it's possible I guess.
Cool theory but I hope Daniel is not the brother or else the kiss would be awkward haha
Thats quite a jump
Agreed with your Daniel point...he is definitely not a husband of her... because at the end of the series when she woke up in the space shuttle... They at one point mentioned that Daniel is no more...he was created by the one to awake Maura from simulation world
@@elamathikrishnamoorthy5967 damn good catch
So. The Scarab is a symbol of resurrection and life and death. The pyramids and triangles can be a symbol of “opening your third eye” and seeing reality. The pods they are in also look like an Egyptian sarcophagus… this is very interesting! Thanks for the video.
I think the captain might be Elliot. Also love how the realistic approaches been taken by adding cost number from different countries and learn how to speak their own language truly awesome.
I like that theory, but what speaks against it is the different eye and hair colours. On other shows this wouldn't matter, but we're talking about the creators of Dark here, a show with meticulous casting for characters in their different ages. I'd be incredibly surprised if they paid so little attention to the details. On the other hand they don't got Simone Bär for the casting this time around, so who knows.
Eliot is clearly dead and only lives in the simulation. His mother and father created the simulation to cope with the loss. His room in the simulation is under a grave. It was also the first room his mother and father created. The line the old man used(cant remember his name): "She will always choose him(his father) over you". Because Eliot is not real
But if Elliott is already dead, why would the old man need to inject him to have him remember something his mother did in the past?
An injection would suggest that Elliott is alive.
Idk, I'm honestly confused. Lol
Some things seem to be part of the physical world. Like the fact that they could physically peal part of a screen to reveal the ship's hull.
@@dcool2u2 Why would anyone need any injection or medical care. They are not really there, it's all in their head. Maybe they managed to extract his conscious, so that he is just like anyone else connect to the simulation
How do we know it's the first room his parents created in the simulation?
@@lolacariad They mentioned it in the last episode, before she turned the key
It gives me huge Westworld vibes and I can't wait to see more if it! TY so much for covering season 01! XX
I have a feeling Elliot, Daniel and Henry are all the same person in the sense that it is the AI who encompasses all 3 personas in the simulation, and that the Mauras brother was actually real and the person who escaped...
I have a similar suspection that Elliot is not a real human child. Maybe he is the newest self-learning program created by both, Maura and Daniel... Maybe all other characters are also programs, with Henry being the oldest, prototype kind. I'm not sure about Maura. Daniel seems very human to me.
My theory is that Eliott, Daniel and father are respectively the personification of Maura’s id, ego and superego according to Freud's theory.
@@thenewkhan4781 I may be confused, but i thought Henry and Maura were the same person. Maura said she's Maura Henriette so her brother calle her henry. Why are you refering to them as different characteres. Am I lost?
I'm stupid, Henry is also the father hahahah.
I think Ciarán is Sebastian, the crew member who helps Henry Singleton.
Something tells me that Ciaran's "Welcome to reality" is lie. The simulation got hacked from inside and maybe Maura got transferred to another simulation. Jantje Friese said they want to do 3 seasons, so I guess in season 2 they won't arrive in the real world yet.
Same. I don't know who's Ciaran but it's pretty clear that Daniel is an outside player who's trying to achieve something in the simulation that wasn't programed in it initially. The space ship must be another simulation imo.
@@thenewkhan4781 another dark outside player was the vice captain, he used the same device like Daniel and also manipulated the ship simulation codes, but everyone here skipped about him 😑
Dude this is really next level inception lol
@@thenewkhan4781 I dont think Daniel is an outside player at all, I think he and also Elliot are not human, I think they are AI programs just like all the other device users like Henry and Sebastian as well.
Daniel's and Eliott's purpose is helping Maura.
Ciaran is the main AI on the space ship.
Of course its a lie.. also why "Welcome to reality".. and not Welcome "back" to reality. (Were they never there?) And why they use the same old CRT monitors on a spaceship in 2099... Of course its not Real in the End. She also still has the Triangle in her Eye in the last shot.
2nd loop start in the space ship and the captain is the real husband of maura because when they came together they can feel affection
Agreed
I wonder if Maura's father ever mentions Ciaran as Maura's brother or, at all.
If he didn't then Ciaran being an AI makes a lot of sense.
When Maura asked him where Ciaran was, her father said that "it doesn't matter". That's it.
He actually says that Ciaran is the last person she should concern herself with right now. Just finished episode 10 and loved the series.
@@lunesterv5802 ep 10?
@@jonascarlo7920 lol
@@jonascarlo7920 yea 10
The ending to this series reminds me a lot of “I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream”, particularly if Ciaran turns out to be AI.
Just finished this one, this show struck me as a love child of Matrix, Inception with a hint of Event Horizon
Interesting hearing your take, heard some others with a different view . That’s the signs of a great show and writer
I think that her having the key on her but not knowing what it does is meant to be subconsciously planting the escape, in the same way that someone would destory something without deeply thinking about it.
Random, but for some reason i think that Sebastian is actually Maura’s brother (the captain’s second hand that we found out is helping Maura’s father). They’re both red head and the actor and character are and speak german. When Daniel resets everything and Maura puts the ring in the pyramid, notice that Sebastian, Elliot and Maura’s father are the only ones who are not in the spaceship.
But Maura is not German though.
The date Maura exits simulation is the last day of the simulation I.e day 8 and that was Oct 19.. which means day 1 was October 11, I.e 1011, her room number.
Lol and?
ooh didnt catch that
Think story I truly look forward to your videos I think you are extremely silent and witty with how you introduce humor into your breakdowns. Continue to thrive can't wait to watch more!!! thank you
I think is wierd that the voice that says " wake up" everytime a character wakes up from they're dreams/ memories is Maura's voice. Tbh idk what it could mean. For me with this director and write I always expect the unexpected.
She is the creator. that's why its her voice.
A really interesting fact I learned on line is that the ship's name "Kerberos" is not the "Cerberos" the three headed Greek hound of Hades. Kerberos is instead a computer term for authentication protocol. It requires a trusted third party to mutually authenticate both a user and a server's identity.
No, Kerberos IS the Greek hound of Hades. That's EXACTLY how it is written (ok, transliterated to be precise), and that is EXACTLY how it pronounced. It might come as a shock to you but the people in Greece speak Greek language, not English.
@@U99DrunkDinosaur It might come as a shock to you it is also a computer term spelled with a "k". This was not my observation but one of a film critic who explored in depth the whole plot and all it's hidden meanings. The ship is a simulation thus the computer interpretation is better suited for it than the hound of hell with three heads which in German is actually spelled "Zerberus". It's a German ship company so you would expect it to be spelled like that for this series unless they in fact wanted to imply a more modern meaning as a computer term. I watched almost 3 hours of break downs about this series and shared this comment to help other people think of new ways to see the plot not to act superior and belittle random strangers I don't know on line. Both my parents are German so maybe we could forgo the belittling of Americans.
I swear reading all of these comments and digging into the comments of comments and hearing everyone’s theories and interpretations are taking my mind into different simulations😂😂 what videos would you recommend to help explain this as simple as it can be ?
Very interested in how Elliot and Daniel move around in the simulations and what they have been doing for all of the dozens of them, hope they go more into it during Season 2
amazing! cant wait for season 2! i didnt expect any less from the makers of dark. 🤯🤯🤯
I love that they went from a ship on water to now a space ship
I have a hypothesis.. The ship is a "prison" and the passengers are being subjected to conditioning similar to the "phantom zone" in Superman. I remember reading an article about the possibility of people serving their prison sentences in a virtual reality that makes them FEEL like a certain amount of time has passed.
You'd love Black Mirror. Or already do.
@@focalized I do like Black Mirror. I also like the Show Severance.
I actually thought this too from the beginning. it makes sense. and yes Black mirror rules!
Sorry to copy, but I just LOVE what I read here:
Friese and bo Odar have ideas for two more seasons, with increased complexity compared to season 1.[2] The planned three-season structure stems from Friese's and bo Odar's film background, where films have three acts.[7] The first season served to establish the theme and characters and pose big questions.[7] If ordered by Netflix, the second season would explain the symbology of the triangles, and Maura's brother would be an important character.[7] bo Odar described this second act as "all about the fun and games, where you play with the theme, and maybe get a little bit more megalomaniacal and crazy, and then resolve it in the third season into a hopefully satisfying resolution."[7]
SOOOOO HYPED for the next seasons, no question Netflix ordering them ! 🎉🎉😂
Completing your theory of her brother not being a person and being AI, I think the survival mission is to send passengers of many different nationalities like a Noah’s ark for humans. And also I believe that there’s a slight possibility of Elliot and Henry being the same person or being both Characters created by AI as both dress similarly and are the ones that show the fewer emotions (almost zero) during all season 1.
When Daniel had his hand held gizmo attached to the wires just before the Big fella hit him with a shovel. The Big man seemed astonished when he seen the Obviously very modern torch 👀😬
I think there were just too many loose ends in this show. They tried to do a million things, and it ended up so confusing. Everyone has a different take and explanation for this show. Each episode introduced a new twist before explaining/solving the one before it. For example: Why did Daniel kill the little girl in the beginning?
I think that's because its meant to be a 3 season arc. The writers have already mapped out all the seasons and the ending of the story, which is why they didn't want to answer all the questions in the first season itself. It's similar to how the story was told in Dark which is by the same people and also had a 3 season arc. There's a lot of questions and confusion and suspense throughout. When some questions are answered, immediately new ones arise and not every answer is given in the same season. You'll notice they also didn't explore the backstories of Angel, Ramiro, Clemence, and Olek. It's all to create intrigue for what comes next and by the end of the last season, every single thing will make sense.
Sounds like lazy writing :)
I'm thinking Daniel killed the girl to set the events in motion that would eventually lead to mutiny. Seeing the dead girl was kinda the last straw for the bald guy with scars on his face (I forget his name), who was already doubting Captain's decisions. And it also angered the Danish people in 3rd class, so they were easier to convince to revolt. What I don't get is why does Daniel need to maintain the sequence of events? Why does it all need to happen that way? What if they didn't revolt and followed the Captain?
@@mihaiavram74 this is anything but lazy writing
Did you watch Dark? You'd be kinda expecting questions in season 1 to be answered in season 3, and vice versa
Great video! Thanks for putting it together so quickly. I had so many questions after binge watching and You’ve answered and given me more to chew on!
One thing I thought was strange that was never brought up was Clements earring being the triangle symbol
I noticed that, also the synchronized sip in the first episode tipped me off
I always thought that Daniel and Elliott were the same person from different times.
Incredible Vid!! Take a bow.
I guess I gotta check out Dark now bc 1899 spit fire! Matrix meets Titanic meets Westworld. Tick tock to season 2 now.
My Theory:
I think we arrived in 2099 and the next Season will be called that! So I think it will just be another Simulation! So where does the Simluation lead after that? I think I have it! There is some Music in the show that doesn't fit the 1899 or 2099 timeline... but it would fit right into the 70ies of the 19th century hence 1999! (Someone grewing up with them would be 20-30 in 1999) So I think it will ultimately end in a triology, making 1999 the last season!
The Song examples:
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane 1967
Child in Time -Deep Purple 1969
Killing Moon - Echo and the Bunnymen 1984
The Reaper - Blue Öyster Cult 1976
The Wizard - Black Sabbath 1970
Adding on top of that! the episode names are so vague! I wonder if the episode names just repeat with a different meaning! I mean in the first Episode of Season 2 we will start again with "The Ship", because we are on a Spaceship! So maybe in Season 3 1999 we will Land of a Modern Boat (or a flying ship?) on the Ocean again!
I agree with you. The technical equipment is from the seventies, the computers in Henry's room and the computerdisplay and type of letters in the spaceship also. 1423 passengers plus 550 crew is 1973. So 1973 could be the real date.
Personally I think it’s more likely that “daniel” or “eyk” are hiding something rather than Henry. Loved the video and speculation! Fascinating show overall and I am gonna have to be patient for season 2! (it will come don’t worry!)
Rooting for Maura and Eyke to get together!
I think actually they were real couples in reality...
What?
That would be the least interesting thing to do.
Why are you shipping people so obsessed with relationships?
ciaran being an ai makes a lot of sense!
Since, we never (as far as we know) see Ciaran in the simulation.
And when Maura confronts her father and asks "where is Ciaran", he says, "that hardly matters"
Would be a very nice season 2 twist.
Possible, but I don't think so. He said he was the last person she should worry about. If what Daniel says is true. That Cairan hijacked the simulation, then what the Father said makes sense. The whole time Maura has thought her Father has done something to her brother, when all along, her brother is the one that has them trapped. He does refer to Cairan as her brother more then once. When talking about Seekers and Avoiders, he said contrary to her brother, Maura was born a Seeker.
All of the passengers memories also can't be their own memories, which I find strange. The simulation put them on a ship in 1899 then made them revisit the past traumas that the simulation created.
Is it just me? like why this reminds me so much of sucker punch? after finishing the series, I was like 'this is sucker punch meets 13th floor!' I'm really excited for season 2!
Even first season of dark seems to not have a perfect ending but following seasons are very good.. I hope this series also will be blockbuster like dark.. I never thought I could ever get those glimpse again I had when I was watching dark..
Two things -
1) was the weird meat thing on the platter in the first episode liver?
2) Anyone else think the roses on Clemente’s dress was another nod to Titanic?
The upside down triangle with a line through it seen throughout the show is the Alchemical symbol for Earth.
So, Henry is played by the same actor who played Qyburn in Game of Thrones. Qyburn is an unethical former maester who was thrown out of the order for conducting illegal human experimentation. I know actors don’t want to be “type-cast” but he really plays creepy mad scientist really well.
Also check him out in Andor where he plays the head of the Empires Imperial Security Bureau. The actor is just really good at playing terrifying sophisticated villains.
Finish watching I was just shocked this story have a bigger brain to create this
The flashlight was invented in 1899.
I just *knew* on every level this was from the creators of Dark… they realllly like to fuck with our heads 😂
The last shot we see Maura's eye the triangle 🔻 so she is in another simulation. And the real ship or a simulation? This 1899 series is amazing
There must be 3 simulations because its all about the triangle.
And in the end, there is no reality. Only the construct of it, the simulations. Because they are all AIs.
I watched the series in german and i didnt notice they were speaking in different labguages i will give it a second watch. I loved it
I think Angel scars on his back are "punishment" he received from his mother for being gay in a time where you can't.
The spaceship is another simulation.
Why did they all sip their tea at the same time in episode 1
Glitch in the matrix?
simulation has patterns and a glitch, if you look closely at ling yis hand when she is sipping the tea, there was a quick flashing glitch
@@soogieharto739 damn how did you catch that?!
Bc they’re in a simulation & it is not always a good representation of what reality is actually like
@@soogieharto739 seriously, how did you even catch that ? I had to go back to episode 1 to confirm after seeing your comment.
I just saw the last episode and I am devestated to learn that the show is cancelled
On the topic of the beetle and ancient Egypt, the scarab is often associated with life, death and rebirth.
I've just Bingewatched the serie, waiting for the moment that they all suddenly could understand each other while speaking their own language. Thanks for the explaining though. Also a reason i din't get off the "1899 Ship" was because a great cliffhanger at the end of every episode. And ... the soundtrack!!
when the captain mentioned about humans been to the highest mountains and havent explored the depth of the ocean it was like what the hell the year was around 1899 and there isnt anyone who has climbed the top mountains at the time but after the season finale it was clear....
Golden age of alpinism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_alpinism
One thing that makes me question the spaceship being just another simulation are the 'Pods' that were holding everyone. That could be seen as just another 'inception device' like the Chair that Henry kept strapping Maura into in the other simulation. We see Maura waking up in the pod (along with everyone else being in one) so, obviously they had to also be put into them at some point. This is just like the function of the chair in the asylum simulation----i think it's just another conduit.
Can't wait for season 2
Dark is THE BEST SHOW EVER !! Netflix pls have season 2 of 1899, IMMEDIATELY PRETTY PLS
I know right. I hate waiting years for next seasons of great shows. It's ridiculous, and ruins it in a way.
I can definitely sense a plot twist where the man working for Maura's father is her brother and she just doesn't remember.
Or her brother and her family is not real
But why does he speak German like a native then
No, thats def. not the case imho.
I think that her whole family (dad, husband, child) plus all other device users like Sebastian are AI programs.
Also Ciaran is not her brother, its just the Space ship AI overlooking this whole space mission.
I knew this show is gonna be like an inception theme since episode 2 bcoz they always started the episode with 'wake up' scene
Just finished watching this show. Went into it blind. WOW !!👌
Always remember that Pythagoras said that the universe is made in 3's.. hence pyramid!
1899, is very like a series called Life on Mars. The final episode of Life on Mars is the same, in a rocket to mars, awakening from a simulation. This situation is different, but there are similitudes like the conflict between father and son. Also the UK version of 2006, the soundtrack is from David Bowie, as the final episode of 1899. The multiple plots in 1899, suspense, each character with their traumas, and all the unanswered themes are an improvement in this story. Visually beautiful, some steampunk elements, are very phenomenal. So, I wish to see a continuation.
Not the original. Original was about a man in a coma
Where it's heading in Season 2? Well, nod to Titanic, Netflix became the iceberg. Sorely disappointed they aren't going forward.
Best logical explanation which could be given🔥🙌
A few things: 1) she says the letter is addressed to her using her middle name, Henry, and then her father turns out be Henry? Hmmmm
2) At the beginning, she says that the year is "19..." hesitates and then says "1899"
Maybe one season will have them in 1999? Since they jump from 1899 to 2099?
Hopefully these are answered but please throw any theories my way
Maybe her father Henry was actually programmed to be in her place and she programmed herself to be at the control room with the many desktops.. and somehow her dad managed to twist their places. Then it would have make sense that she programmed the simulation herself. Because she thought she would have the control
Charon was the ferryman who transported the souls of the dead into afterlife through the river of Styx.
The ending reminded me of 2001 Space Odyssey quite a bit. I feel like Ciaran is Hal 9000
Damn so much for season 2 playing out.
I personally think the final scene was part of another simulation. The computer screen Maura recieved the message from her brother on seemed a little... Off.
Didn't look that futuristic...
No doubt 1899 will get a second season because it's apparently a huge hit right now
Overall 1899 was quite enjoyable and pretty mental but it's not on Dark's level though. I don't think these creators will ever be able to match that masterpiece.
Let's just appreciate 1899 tho, it's still 10/10 , nothing compared to this exists on any platform except Dark itself
I was in a perpetual state of "HUH?"
All throughout the show there was hidden triangles( exemple: Clemence’s earrings)
The upside down triangle with a line through it is the Alchemical symbol for Earth
Almost looked like she had a beetle on her neck collar too!
Apart from the titanic, both 1899 and Lost have a blond pregnant chick dealing with (kinda) similar stuff.
What do you mean by Titanic?? The only common thread here I can see is that they were both young, blonde, pregnant, with abusive parents. And that’s only Tove’s character in the simulation lol it has nothing to do with her real life as a passenger asleep on the spaceship
the black smoke became solid, there's a priest, toying with symbols, characters' back stories spanned across seasons, now, we need desmond hume
Great show. We need season 2 before this "simulation" ends :P
Olek emerging from tar pit - Poland didn't exist at that time. Russia, Prussia and Austria/Hungary occupied teritory of Poland. Polish people from russian part were send to gulags, mosly in Siberia, for "crimes" against regime. Tar pit was one of the punishments in gulags for criminals.
Why did Maura's husband kill the Danish girl, the first person, who died on the ship? It was heavily implied that he did it, he apologized to her first. Which means all the other people dying later could be because of him as well. And we never find out how they died exactly or how the hell it could have benefited him.
He didn't kill her, he unplugged her. When Maura touched the girl in the first episode she had a flashback of a scarab. Imo Ada was not a real person, but some kind of key opening/activating something in the simulation. That or Daniel did it to cause the mutiny.
@@thenewkhan4781 Thanks! I thought about the mutiny, but it seemed a bit too brutal.
@@Ira__L Daniel mentioned to Elliot at various points that they have never come this far, in the simulation. They have done it many times over (before the events of the show) and therefore Daniel knew what he had to do - Ada is the spark that ignites the mutiny.
About the number of Maura's room, 1011. Can it be a code? Like Morse code? When 1 is a dot and 0 is a dash? Then her room probably has letters AI(or ED, RE and other), maybe Maura is AI?