Taunts: All player or pet-generated taunts now have a shared diminish category. In addition, Taunt-type effects from pets and from classes other than death knight, druid, paladin, and warrior have been set such that bosses can be made immune to them while still affected by death knight, druid, paladin, and warrior taunts... They actually did this so you couldn't pingpong bosses around without anyone taking damage. TAUNT DOES HAVE DIMINISHING RETURN
I don’t understand. The guy who’s supposedly the raid leader told the other guy to stop taking aggro by attacking. He explained it calmly without being demeaning at all. The guy he told that to, got angry and kept saying “don’t tell me what to do, do something different instead.” After trying to explain what to do multiple times in a calm way and getting nowhere, he yelled at him. When he yelled at him, this other dude started going after him saying that he’s wrong for yelling?
It's a trend I've seen develop more and more often among players, then all of a sudden when the one *trying* to explain something goes off they suddenly become the target of "oh wow...why do you have to be so aggressive wanting things only YOUR way, control issues much?" defending the person who just refuses to follow instructions. I went through this just a few days ago.
So the raid leader/ the person who had the aggro problem is in the wrong regardless of how rude the gear tank was. Don't show up to the 2nd phase raid in phase 1 pre-raid gear. The moment you need to ask someone to change the way they play because you're not prepared for the raid YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.
Usually a tank can keep aggro. except when you have a second tank that does more damage. When that happens, you have to make SURE that the main tank is doing more damage than the off tank so that the main tank can hold threat. A lot of times how this is done is by asking the off tank to dps slower. If that doesn't happen, you will be forced to burn through your taunts. Taunt is only allowed to be used a certain amount of times before becoming immune.
looked like one of the guys had really high DPS.. but ya.. even in MoP i dont remember aggro being much of an issue.. until the very end when people were full mythic SoO geared.. and you ran into a tank who just hit max level that day and was running a heroic or something.. then YOU tanked and the actual tank ran behind you waiting for the free dungeon lol
Dude with low gear is correct when he is talking about the mechanic (diminishing return), but wrong in raging. If you all really wanted to kill the boss, there would be a civilized agreement, but because people can't admit they are wrong in any shape or form, you probably wasted a long time and nobody got loot. Best part is when it is mentioned that everyone is over 20, but it's obviously a kindergarten discussion.
Ah good ole Vengence something most tanks didn't grasp when tank swapping. The new tank comes with no massive buffs and the max vengence tank would just spam all their moves thinking they wouldn't pull off...
The tank has a point, a DPS should know when to hold back. You pull threat, you'll probably die, this is something that is taught early in the game. Likewise, the DPS is right in saying he was just doing his job. In the end I think the DPS was being egotistical, if they knew the tank was undergeared they should have been prepared to work with him. Blasting something with an machine gun and expecting it to look at the guy with a handgun is just dumb.
It wasn't the dps that was pulling off the tank. It was the other tank. Which makes it so funny. Evac (the undergeared tank) was NOT having threat issues with the dps, or healers. Only with the other tank. And only because of vengeance + the higher gear score of the other tank.
@@patrickohoolihan7033 Brewmaster should just taunt when the tank swap "Eye of the Empress" goes off when it's his turn to hold the boss, so he takes the tank swap mechanic and then if the other tank pulls off him it doesn't matter. Here's a video of a tank PoV to see that Eye of the Empress has a cooldown longer than the cooldown of taunt: th-cam.com/video/juoTBVvtuyQ/w-d-xo.html
11 years later and that randome dude who came out of nowhere acting like a white knight still sound like a hue. If some dude mocks me and start to make some dumb voice ofc ima end up losing my calm, how is the main dude being "out of line" when he is not only raid lead but also being disrespected?
As someone who did WoW progression for 10 years in the past, it blows my mind how toxic people get over something that doesn't even matter in the end. No profits, no lasting value, nothing. Wow. Glad I got out of it 2 years ago. That said, that guy at 15:56 is a fucking hero 😂
This is exactly why i stopped in cata classic, Blood DK's were OP as fuck. I taunted off them, they kept mass DPS'ing and pulling off of me. then "i know how to tank" lmao
The raid leader is entirely in the wrong and anyone who thinks otherwise does NOT play world of warcraft. The raid leader is so undergeared that he is causing proplems getting a kill and is getting toxic at the dude who carried him through the rest of the raid for literally no reason. The RL needs to look at what HE can do to keep aggro, IF YOURE LOSING AGGRO TO AUTO ATTACKS YOU ARE IN THE WRONG! This RL has no business being in this raid and is the actually toxic person in this video.
If your solution to play a game is to make someone else stop playing.then thats not a real solution. The game isnt designed nor has it ever been designed with that methodology in mind.
First off hes a undergeared bm monk in pandaria, in a place where pallies were the best tanks above warriors and dks. Get better gear before trying to tank. Dont blame the other tank.
You can hear the emptiness in that kids apartment
😂
Taunts: All player or pet-generated taunts now have a shared diminish category. In addition, Taunt-type effects from pets and from classes other than death knight, druid, paladin, and warrior have been set such that bosses can be made immune to them while still affected by death knight, druid, paladin, and warrior taunts...
They actually did this so you couldn't pingpong bosses around without anyone taking damage.
TAUNT DOES HAVE DIMINISHING RETURN
Bro, you are 4 years to late with this hahahahahaahahhaha
It does have a DR and ... you can still spam taunt without triggering it to take back aggro. Learn to tank especially if you're a undergeared shitter.
@@Pellepelle14 6 years late!
I don’t understand. The guy who’s supposedly the raid leader told the other guy to stop taking aggro by attacking. He explained it calmly without being demeaning at all. The guy he told that to, got angry and kept saying “don’t tell me what to do, do something different instead.” After trying to explain what to do multiple times in a calm way and getting nowhere, he yelled at him. When he yelled at him, this other dude started going after him saying that he’s wrong for yelling?
It's a trend I've seen develop more and more often among players, then all of a sudden when the one *trying* to explain something goes off they suddenly become the target of "oh wow...why do you have to be so aggressive wanting things only YOUR way, control issues much?" defending the person who just refuses to follow instructions.
I went through this just a few days ago.
So the raid leader/ the person who had the aggro problem is in the wrong regardless of how rude the gear tank was. Don't show up to the 2nd phase raid in phase 1 pre-raid gear. The moment you need to ask someone to change the way they play because you're not prepared for the raid YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.
"That's what he's fucking saying, dude! That's what he's saying!"
I fucking cracked up when he said that. I want to raid with THAT guy. He gets it.
It's hilarious that the guy defending him is getting mad about rudeness when the kid was literally mocking him with that fucking voice.
I'm glad to only play this game with people all over 40. So much better. This is both fun and annoying to watch.
If I return to WoW ever I'll make sure I'm in a 35+ guild. Or maybe MINIMUM 30+.
They made a kick button for a reason.
Usually a tank can keep aggro. except when you have a second tank that does more damage. When that happens, you have to make SURE that the main tank is doing more damage than the off tank so that the main tank can hold threat. A lot of times how this is done is by asking the off tank to dps slower. If that doesn't happen, you will be forced to burn through your taunts. Taunt is only allowed to be used a certain amount of times before becoming immune.
I actually appreciate people who talk shit like this, it makes the night more interesting!
threat issues in mop....
looked like one of the guys had really high DPS.. but ya.. even in MoP i dont remember aggro being much of an issue.. until the very end when people were full mythic SoO geared.. and you ran into a tank who just hit max level that day and was running a heroic or something.. then YOU tanked and the actual tank ran behind you waiting for the free dungeon lol
Do they not have threat meters anymore?
These guy posted this thinking he wasn't the cringe and he was. Holy shit.
Dude with low gear is correct when he is talking about the mechanic (diminishing return), but wrong in raging. If you all really wanted to kill the boss, there would be a civilized agreement, but because people can't admit they are wrong in any shape or form, you probably wasted a long time and nobody got loot. Best part is when it is mentioned that everyone is over 20, but it's obviously a kindergarten discussion.
Ah good ole Vengence something most tanks didn't grasp when tank swapping. The new tank comes with no massive buffs and the max vengence tank would just spam all their moves thinking they wouldn't pull off...
JUST PRESS ESCAPE, IS THAT SO HARD? made me lol'd
The tank has a point, a DPS should know when to hold back. You pull threat, you'll probably die, this is something that is taught early in the game. Likewise, the DPS is right in saying he was just doing his job. In the end I think the DPS was being egotistical, if they knew the tank was undergeared they should have been prepared to work with him. Blasting something with an machine gun and expecting it to look at the guy with a handgun is just dumb.
It wasn't the dps that was pulling off the tank. It was the other tank. Which makes it so funny. Evac (the undergeared tank) was NOT having threat issues with the dps, or healers. Only with the other tank. And only because of vengeance + the higher gear score of the other tank.
So the other tank (Felia) and the idiot defending him, are both wrong
@@patrickohoolihan7033 Brewmaster should just taunt when the tank swap "Eye of the Empress" goes off when it's his turn to hold the boss, so he takes the tank swap mechanic and then if the other tank pulls off him it doesn't matter.
Here's a video of a tank PoV to see that Eye of the Empress has a cooldown longer than the cooldown of taunt: th-cam.com/video/juoTBVvtuyQ/w-d-xo.html
cocabuttes is now 26 yrs old.
I mean we all act a litlle more immature than we would like to but you seem like a great leader
11 years later and that randome dude who came out of nowhere acting like a white knight still sound like a hue. If some dude mocks me and start to make some dumb voice ofc ima end up losing my calm, how is the main dude being "out of line" when he is not only raid lead but also being disrespected?
"SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT THIS GAME EITHER!" --rofl
I really don't understand.....how most of these Guilds or Groups just keep having the person.. I had to keep skipping...
As someone who did WoW progression for 10 years in the past, it blows my mind how toxic people get over something that doesn't even matter in the end. No profits, no lasting value, nothing. Wow. Glad I got out of it 2 years ago.
That said, that guy at 15:56 is a fucking hero 😂
How do you guys wipe on adds?
cinema
This was funny af
Let’s come in here and eat food 😂
Bit of an odd request but any chance you've got an elvui export from mop? :)
The real question is did they down the boss though?
This is exactly why i stopped in cata classic, Blood DK's were OP as fuck. I taunted off them, they kept mass DPS'ing and pulling off of me. then "i know how to tank" lmao
"U MAD CUZ U BAD"
Credibility vanished at that point... that is if there was any remaining.
Bro...every single one of these kids is so bad, this is great hahaha
The raid leader is entirely in the wrong and anyone who thinks otherwise does NOT play world of warcraft. The raid leader is so undergeared that he is causing proplems getting a kill and is getting toxic at the dude who carried him through the rest of the raid for literally no reason. The RL needs to look at what HE can do to keep aggro, IF YOURE LOSING AGGRO TO AUTO ATTACKS YOU ARE IN THE WRONG! This RL has no business being in this raid and is the actually toxic person in this video.
Hmm, dunno who's winning....Still entertaining as hell!
If your solution to play a game is to make someone else stop playing.then thats not a real solution. The game isnt designed nor has it ever been designed with that methodology in mind.
If you can't press esc on a tank swap you shouldn't be tanking 😊
looking at this in 2024 the dude in the blues is in the wrong, if he cant do his job properly he shouldnt be there. its not the geared persons fault.
Nah, if you do more threat during these tank swaps, you should stop building threat. It's tanking 101.
So many feels.
Maybe he should just learn how to hold aggro better, this was in mop...tanking was not difficult.
Why not just fucking press escape? Is it really that hard?
also paladin tanks pulled massive threat compared to monks, but I assume you knew that being the master player you think you are =)
The tank was in blues.. did you not hear him?
So does Taunt have DMs?
U JUS GOTTA BE RESPECTFUL AN PRESS DA BUTTON
Holy fuck this is awkward lol
What you gotta realize from these mmos is most of them dont know what it feels like to be punched in the face.😂
First off hes a undergeared bm monk in pandaria, in a place where pallies were the best tanks above warriors and dks. Get better gear before trying to tank. Dont blame the other tank.
Man wow was so fun lol
Did you end up killing the boss?
i used to be in seraph :P
casuals trying to tell evac what to do... clearly they dont understand he is the best #bangbang
tHe wAy hE sAiD iT wAs dISrEsPeCtFuL mfer!!!! why are we so soft now a days lol
This 11 years old ma boy
@@stetv928_8 still holds people are soft lol
LMFAO this guy ...
Hahahahaha omg you make me miss WoW hahaha!
I can't believe this made youtube lmfao! I get mad at 15:53 haha! This is awesome.
look at rizlos' shit dps
Evao is literally garbage.
@7:00 lmao
Hahaha, subbed
subscribed!! lol
Why you're acting like that?
lol
LOL
Latin pretty girl
Cringe af
Evac is king!
the funniest thing about this clip is the bad tank uploading this thinking he is looking good in this