We need more black characters on screen. Increasing the number of black villains on screen is such a misunderstanding of the representation issue. Not to mention the non-solution that is race swapping.
I agree with you! And changing the race of the character completely changes the culture of the character and how he come to be who he is and the hero he becomes. Like storm for example if they changed the race of that character then it would completely change the back story and everything that makes storm who she is besides her powers
what about latinos and asian representation? why are we always talking about black people? it's weird. It's not balanced and the only swaps that ever happen are black (minus Namor)
Don't care about race-swapping unless it's... uber-important. I remember the black Kingpin from the old Daredevil movie & no one cried. Clearly, you don't race-bend _certain_ characters, I mean, that goes without saying. If some dude named Black Panther is played by a white dude, lol then ok we'll talk but usually, it's hardly even worth getting pissy. Let's be real, there aren't a lot of popular black characters that are legacy characters period. There's no popular black Superman type, no popular Latina Wonder Woman type, etc..., so when folks are like _"Why don't you make your own minority!"_ it's not like they haven't tried! For whatever reason, white heroes get all the rizz. So, I can understand race-swapping, and gender-flipping here and there. Because who wants to wait 10-20 years for a character to _maybe_ hit it big. It just doesn't worry me too much, some folks can point to the rare situations where it's gotten out of hand, but when that happens everyone is usually in agreement. Lastly, I grew up on my dad's comics and he collected a ton of stuff, but most of the stuff he prized was the more diverse heroes. And it's been 30+ years and most of those diverse heroes are still in the bargain bin. Mostly because the popular and established legacy characters take up so much space. It's well deserved of course but a lot of people seem to forget, that new characters are hard enough to make, let alone trying to bring up other characters who just never caught on for whatever reason. Call me a hippy but the race, feminine, or whatever else just doesn't bother me at all. I'm on the opposite end of it, sometimes I think a character can be *too black!* LOL, as weird as that sounds. Or the gal can be overly feminine for no reason at all. My issue is more nuanced, as I don't mind all the diversity/gender or whatever... I'm more concerned... about _"What do you do when you get there?"_ And how do you hold an audience's attention without going too overboard. I wish folks were more concerned about that, instead of some of sort Yes or No narrative.
The reason Batman is taking so long is because the writer/director is having personal issues. And before you say switch writer/director he is the same guy who wrote and directed the first one. It’s his voice. Patience.
Question: If Matt Reeves next Batman film and or next TV series is a hit, and James Gunn’s Superman flops do you think Matt should get the keys to the DCU/DCEU?
Adrian here is the watching order for all the Netflix shows for you to get caught up before March 4 DareDevil Season 1 Jessica Jones Season 1 DareDevil Season 2 Luke Cage Season 1 Jessica Jones Season 2 Iron Fist Season 1 Defenders Season 1 The Punisher Season 1 Luke Cage Season 2 Iron Fist Season 2 DareDevil Season 3 The Punisher Season 2 Jessica Jones Season 3 Also Johnny blaze has been in an episode of agents of shield. He was the one that gave Robbie Reyes, the spirit of vengeance. The only reason why I know that it is Johnny blaze is because the skull had a bullet hole in it.
Wassup Mike and Adrian!!! Happy 1st show of 2025!! So I’m sitting in my car on break engaging in Devils Lettuce activity, when I heard u say u never saw Gladiator!!! It was like Coulsin when he got stabbed in the back by Loki!!! Jus Criminal!!! Also I’ll be glad to take Godmode’s title!!! Also also I’d love to come on your podcast as a guest ANYTIME!!! Even tho I’m in Florida, ur my Brotha from Anotha Motha; two years apart! Oh, and ITS TIFFY TIME!!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@@OnlyComicsPodcast ya there is only two shows my 1 year old daughter will sit and watch the entirety of and it’s your show and gladiator so I think we need to have you do a gladiator break down on the “other stuff” part of the show
There are thousands of characters with stories that have been set I don’t understand the need to continue to give us origin films that bomb and just change the gender or race of characters that we know. I’d rather them just make new characters if they want something new like Miles Morales, which was awesome!!!
On the surface I don't mind race swaps but as Beau Demayo astutely pointed out when you start to notice that they've prioritized turning all the villains black instead of giving us actual black heroes that we've been waiting for (TChalla, Misty Knight, Luke Cage, Doctor Voodoo, etc) it starts to feel off. And notice we're always talking black swaps it's never any other race. Where's the balance? No latino love, no asian love (minus Namor). Something fishy going on over there at Disney. PS Harry looks like a total beta that's the main issue here
Just saw the trailer for Reacher season 3. And all I'm saying is the guy who plays Reacher is the perfect already established Batman and the guy who plays Ricker I think his name is, is the perfect Bane! Go watch and tell me if I'm wrong!
Hey Mike and Adrian! Always a blast listening, many people have said it, and I agree, it's like sitting down talking comics with my buddies, to prove to these people that you are most certainly not DC haters, I was wondering what your top 5 DC Villains would be? P.S. hidden gem request Daken Akihero(Wolverines son)
Happy New Year! I loved the Punisher's line in Daredevil Season 2 where he tells Daredevil "You're one bad day away from being me!". Punisher War Journal was a great series. I liked it when the disembodied Dr Strange combined himself with The Punisher. If you don't know about that storyline, ask Adrian ;)
More proof that marvel is definitely watching your show last week I asked about if you guys would like a roboot of the punisher show and by god next episode we get news the show is coming back shout out from oregon you guys are great
Race swapping is creatively redundant. Shows no creative growth for other Black characters that could be used and grow. Do you want a Black Hal Jordon, or John Stewart?
How would yall feel about Aldis Hodge or Daniel Kaluuya as the recast for Black Panther? I mean even with the multiverse stuff they could’ve just used a variant of Michael B Jordan, or gave Jonathan Majors another opportunity since they destroyed Kang lol who would you guys have recast?
I think Kaaluaya would be out because dude already played a character in Black Panther could see Michael B Jordan as a variant but I'd much rather see a new actor.
Am I the only one who’s under the impression that the delays in the Batman follow up is directly related to the success/failure of Superman…if Superman is great, I think they fold in batison to the universe.
Yo Mike and Adrian greetings from your friendly neighborhood bus driver lol. 3 great episodes back to back to back. I say that because I was that far behind because of the holiday break and I do social dextox over break. I am getting close to finishing Devils Regin after reading 2015 Secret wars. My question is this do you guys think it Devils Regin should be adapted into the MCU but as a limited mini series on Disney plus? I just think it would be a great way to tell that story the right way! Of course it has to come after secret wars.
Hey Mike & Adrian checking in every Monday now💪🏼💯 currently watching the punisher show & realized how good it truly is. Rumor has it there is a new punisher series in the works was wondering how you felt about it? & if you had seen the punisher series yourselves?
Hey Mike and Adrian, first time commenting been watching since Loki deep dive. My main in marvel rivals is winter soldier, love his special ability. I usually play arcade and haven’t tried much else, what should I try in the game? Another question since you’re watching daredevil s2 and Adrian is thinking of rewatching, you guys should do deep dives into the season getting ready for the new one.
This is hilarious to me because I feel the same exact way. It’s like am I too old to be looking forward to he-man I’m 45 but I grew up with this. This is when I was a child I should be able to look forward to it and not have to worry about am I to old for this?
wait just to point something out when you talked about pixar, they dont normally do sequels? you mean like toy story? toy story 2 was 4 years after 1, cars 1-whatever? inside out? they definitely make sequels
right but the point isn’t timeline it’s that they do make sequels, but between cars 1-2 it is 5 years, but regardless it is a reeves fault not a Gunn fault anyway he has some personal things going on so it’s a non issue to the DCU really it isn’t a DCU movie, we just have to hope it doesn’t slow down the brave and the bold movie
to be fair when the batman came out, matt reeves wanted to do more than one but the first HAD to be successful... like idk every movie you named that took 5 years like the matrix? a movie that was CLEARLY not a solo movie it didn't tell a central story... it was told in a trilogy. but if the first fails you never get a sequel thats most everything ever. but matt reeves didnt have what he wanted yet on a script and has personal things going on from what we've been told potentially but either way this batman movie isnt even a DCU movie so it matters not tbh also the 10 percent argument, very biased... what if you have cancer, got a 10 percent chance of dying, great chances to live, youre an nfl team and only LOSE 10 percent of your games, then youre going to the playoffs... if you switch the perspective you can make things as good as you want. thats all.
There were less than 5 years between the first two matrix movies too.. the point is out of 40 movie series ONLY 4 of them have a 5 year ago or more between the first two movies so it's not common.
Race Swap Suggestion. My Lex Luthor is the JL and STA show and too me i never seen him as white since the animators gave him a tan compared to the rest of the character's now in main stream media they have been white but just wanted someone else opinion if they race swapped him with any other race would it be a issue.
Snow White in the upcoming movie is played by a latina actress. Sunspot’s afro-brazilian (sorry for how short this sounds, I’m playing Xenoverse while listening 🥴)
Since we aren’t getting a Batman Film any time soon what did you guys thing of that Batman Beyond Year One Fan Film th-cam.com/video/PTUF2v6r2eQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G63DkvOX-L14-th0
I think y’all have a misunderstanding of the Batman’s delay.. James Gunn said from the moment it was announced that the Batman was going to be delayed again he said it’s because the script is not finished.. he’s not writing the script so I’m just confused on why you keep saying he’s taking forever. It’s Matt Reeves😂 make your jokes but you should probably substitute James Gunns name for Matt reeves especially since Matt had a 2 year head start and his Batman will probably come out after the brave and the bold which is actually James’s gunns 😂
@ no I get it, the jokes weren’t complicated but if you’re upset ab the delay and gonna make jokes ab it then you should probably use the right name. I get it you’re making fun of the ridiculous comments he made but the jokes were still phrased as he was the reason for the delays
Kicking off 2025 with a great one fellas! Adrian and Mike, this is the Encyclopedia you need and I have it so I can vouch for it. DK Marvel Encyclopedia New Edition- With an Introduction by Stan Lee. I don’t have many comics but I’ve learned so much from this book 📕 so much info for any Marvel fan. Let’s make a petition to get Adrian to play Rivals 😂 can’t wait for the fantastic 4 characters and season 1 to drop! Would be fun to play a few matches with you guys. Awesome as always, catch you next week! 🫡🤘🏼
What up Mike and Adrian! Love from Dallas once again!! As an extreme Thor fan with a mjolnir (mule-neer) tattoo. Do you guys see marvel being able to reconcile the atrocity they have turned this charecter into within his last 2-3 appearances on screen? I don’t think it’s too much to ask for one more kick ass hardcore Thor fight that’s all serious and no jokes.
You guys cry too much . If they race swapped magneto, Black panther, or certain characters id understand cause it wouldnt fit the story but if norman is black white asian mexican really doesnt matter lol
The only Snyder that should be allowed within 100ft of dc is Scott
The only time I care when they race swap is if their race plays a part of who they are. If it doesn't it really doesn't matter.
We need more black characters on screen. Increasing the number of black villains on screen is such a misunderstanding of the representation issue. Not to mention the non-solution that is race swapping.
I agree with you! And changing the race of the character completely changes the culture of the character and how he come to be who he is and the hero he becomes. Like storm for example if they changed the race of that character then it would completely change the back story and everything that makes storm who she is besides her powers
what about latinos and asian representation? why are we always talking about black people? it's weird. It's not balanced and the only swaps that ever happen are black (minus Namor)
Don't care about race-swapping unless it's... uber-important. I remember the black Kingpin from the old Daredevil movie & no one cried. Clearly, you don't race-bend _certain_ characters, I mean, that goes without saying. If some dude named Black Panther is played by a white dude, lol then ok we'll talk but usually, it's hardly even worth getting pissy. Let's be real, there aren't a lot of popular black characters that are legacy characters period. There's no popular black Superman type, no popular Latina Wonder Woman type, etc..., so when folks are like _"Why don't you make your own minority!"_ it's not like they haven't tried! For whatever reason, white heroes get all the rizz.
So, I can understand race-swapping, and gender-flipping here and there. Because who wants to wait 10-20 years for a character to _maybe_ hit it big. It just doesn't worry me too much, some folks can point to the rare situations where it's gotten out of hand, but when that happens everyone is usually in agreement. Lastly, I grew up on my dad's comics and he collected a ton of stuff, but most of the stuff he prized was the more diverse heroes.
And it's been 30+ years and most of those diverse heroes are still in the bargain bin. Mostly because the popular and established legacy characters take up so much space. It's well deserved of course but a lot of people seem to forget, that new characters are hard enough to make, let alone trying to bring up other characters who just never caught on for whatever reason. Call me a hippy but the race, feminine, or whatever else just doesn't bother me at all.
I'm on the opposite end of it, sometimes I think a character can be *too black!* LOL, as weird as that sounds. Or the gal can be overly feminine for no reason at all. My issue is more nuanced, as I don't mind all the diversity/gender or whatever... I'm more concerned... about _"What do you do when you get there?"_ And how do you hold an audience's attention without going too overboard.
I wish folks were more concerned about that, instead of some of sort Yes or No narrative.
I mean Marvel also race swapped one of their heroes I.e. Wonder Man. That’s coming out later this year.
The reason Batman is taking so long is because the writer/director is having personal issues. And before you say switch writer/director he is the same guy who wrote and directed the first one. It’s his voice. Patience.
Question: If Matt Reeves next Batman film and or next TV series is a hit, and James Gunn’s Superman flops do you think Matt should get the keys to the DCU/DCEU?
Absolutely
i dont believe we are in that universe tbh i believe we are in the one both go do very well
@ correct, I just think if it’s constant flop after flop Matt Reeves universe should be considered the main one if that makes sense!
We never asked for wonderman, especially before Blade. Blue Marvel would've been a great choice for a Black character
really I was thinking the same damn thang! Give it to someone who loves comics and understands them.
Adrian here is the watching order for all the Netflix shows for you to get caught up before March 4
DareDevil Season 1
Jessica Jones Season 1
DareDevil Season 2
Luke Cage Season 1
Jessica Jones Season 2
Iron Fist Season 1
Defenders Season 1
The Punisher Season 1
Luke Cage Season 2
Iron Fist Season 2
DareDevil Season 3
The Punisher Season 2 Jessica Jones Season 3
Also Johnny blaze has been in an episode of agents of shield. He was the one that gave Robbie Reyes, the spirit of vengeance.
The only reason why I know that it is Johnny blaze is because the skull had a bullet hole in it.
Superman>Spider-Man
Nooooooo 🤦♂️
Thank you so much for the Doom vs Magneto section!!!
New segment coming!! We're going to discuss different battles like Magneto vs Doom every week!!
Just the race swapped villains? Not the dozens of times they've race and gender swapped the other non villain characters? Gotta be 50+ by now.
I bet it's more villains
@OnlyComicsPodcast nah its predominantly sidekicks and love interests that are being race swapped in the comic book adaptation movies
Wassup Mike and Adrian!!! Happy 1st show of 2025!! So I’m sitting in my car on break engaging in Devils Lettuce activity, when I heard u say u never saw Gladiator!!! It was like Coulsin when he got stabbed in the back by Loki!!! Jus Criminal!!! Also I’ll be glad to take Godmode’s title!!! Also also I’d love to come on your podcast as a guest ANYTIME!!! Even tho I’m in Florida, ur my Brotha from Anotha Motha; two years apart! Oh, and ITS TIFFY TIME!!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
brooo.. sorry I let you down with Gladiator lol
@@OnlyComicsPodcast ya there is only two shows my 1 year old daughter will sit and watch the entirety of and it’s your show and gladiator so I think we need to have you do a gladiator break down on the “other stuff” part of the show
There are thousands of characters with stories that have been set I don’t understand the need to continue to give us origin films that bomb and just change the gender or race of characters that we know. I’d rather them just make new characters if they want something new like Miles Morales, which was awesome!!!
Exactly!! Miles is a perfect example of the right way to do it
On the surface I don't mind race swaps but as Beau Demayo astutely pointed out when you start to notice that they've prioritized turning all the villains black instead of giving us actual black heroes that we've been waiting for (TChalla, Misty Knight, Luke Cage, Doctor Voodoo, etc) it starts to feel off. And notice we're always talking black swaps it's never any other race. Where's the balance? No latino love, no asian love (minus Namor). Something fishy going on over there at Disney. PS Harry looks like a total beta that's the main issue here
Just saw the trailer for Reacher season 3. And all I'm saying is the guy who plays Reacher is the perfect already established Batman and the guy who plays Ricker I think his name is, is the perfect Bane! Go watch and tell me if I'm wrong!
Hey Mike and Adrian! Always a blast listening, many people have said it, and I agree, it's like sitting down talking comics with my buddies, to prove to these people that you are most certainly not DC haters, I was wondering what your top 5 DC Villains would be? P.S. hidden gem request Daken Akihero(Wolverines son)
Hey, do either of you remember a story arch where Daredevil was in Hell vs either Mephisto or Blackheart?
Much love to you every week!!!
Happy New Year! I loved the Punisher's line in Daredevil Season 2 where he tells Daredevil "You're one bad day away from being me!". Punisher War Journal was a great series. I liked it when the disembodied Dr Strange combined himself with The Punisher. If you don't know about that storyline, ask Adrian ;)
I just rewatched that Daredevil episode the other day!!
More proof that marvel is definitely watching your show last week I asked about if you guys would like a roboot of the punisher show and by god next episode we get news the show is coming back shout out from oregon you guys are great
Race swapping is creatively redundant. Shows no creative growth for other Black characters that could be used and grow. Do you want a Black Hal Jordon, or John Stewart?
People mad that they gonna make the Osborns black? They had 360 waves since the 80's... Come on now... 😂
How would yall feel about Aldis Hodge or Daniel Kaluuya as the recast for Black Panther? I mean even with the multiverse stuff they could’ve just used a variant of Michael B Jordan, or gave Jonathan Majors another opportunity since they destroyed Kang lol who would you guys have recast?
I think Kaaluaya would be out because dude already played a character in Black Panther could see Michael B Jordan as a variant but I'd much rather see a new actor.
Aldi's Hodge or Michael B Jordan, I'm fine with either one
@@tylermeyer2163 you’re right I totally forgot about that
Am I the only one who’s under the impression that the delays in the Batman follow up is directly related to the success/failure of Superman…if Superman is great, I think they fold in batison to the universe.
It's not that crazy, but I absolutely hope they get their own Batman for the DCU
What do you think about a fight between Psylocke vs Daredevil?
Yo Mike and Adrian greetings from your friendly neighborhood bus driver lol. 3 great episodes back to back to back. I say that because I was that far behind because of the holiday break and I do social dextox over break.
I am getting close to finishing Devils Regin after reading 2015 Secret wars.
My question is this do you guys think it Devils Regin should be adapted into the MCU but as a limited mini series on Disney plus? I just think it would be a great way to tell that story the right way! Of course it has to come after secret wars.
Yes I love devil's reign and I hope they adapt it!!!
Hey Mike & Adrian checking in every Monday now💪🏼💯 currently watching the punisher show & realized how good it truly is. Rumor has it there is a new punisher series in the works was wondering how you felt about it? & if you had seen the punisher series yourselves?
Btw the way Adrian explained supergirl’s origin sounds like a great movie to me with her coming to earth later on & lobo hunting her down
Hopefully it's true, we touch on it in this episode as well
@@OnlyComicsPodcast lol ik right after I commented you started talking about it
Love the hidden gem segment!! I keep saying it AXEL ASHER aka ACCESS for a hidden gem. Very crucial character to the comics universe
Hey Mike and Adrian, first time commenting been watching since Loki deep dive. My main in marvel rivals is winter soldier, love his special ability. I usually play arcade and haven’t tried much else, what should I try in the game? Another question since you’re watching daredevil s2 and Adrian is thinking of rewatching, you guys should do deep dives into the season getting ready for the new one.
This is hilarious to me because I feel the same exact way. It’s like am I too old to be looking forward to he-man I’m 45 but I grew up with this. This is when I was a child I should be able to look forward to it and not have to worry about am I to old for this?
What’s up guys. Just read that marvel considering recasting T’Challa for the next black panther movie. Someone needs to cut you guys the check !
Show me the money 🤑🤑
wait just to point something out when you talked about pixar, they dont normally do sequels? you mean like toy story? toy story 2 was 4 years after 1, cars 1-whatever? inside out? they definitely make sequels
right but the point isn’t timeline it’s that they do make sequels, but between cars 1-2 it is 5 years, but regardless it is a reeves fault not a Gunn fault anyway he has some personal things going on so it’s a non issue to the DCU really it isn’t a DCU movie, we just have to hope it doesn’t slow down the brave and the bold movie
LFG!!!! Talking about comics and ONLY comics. 🤝🏻
that's right!!! and nothing else.....
to be fair when the batman came out, matt reeves wanted to do more than one but the first HAD to be successful... like idk every movie you named that took 5 years like the matrix? a movie that was CLEARLY not a solo movie it didn't tell a central story... it was told in a trilogy. but if the first fails you never get a sequel thats most everything ever. but matt reeves didnt have what he wanted yet on a script and has personal things going on from what we've been told potentially but either way this batman movie isnt even a DCU movie so it matters not tbh also the 10 percent argument, very biased... what if you have cancer, got a 10 percent chance of dying, great chances to live, youre an nfl team and only LOSE 10 percent of your games, then youre going to the playoffs... if you switch the perspective you can make things as good as you want. thats all.
There were less than 5 years between the first two matrix movies too.. the point is out of 40 movie series ONLY 4 of them have a 5 year ago or more between the first two movies so it's not common.
@@OnlyComicsPodcast doesn’t change the fact reeves pushed it back not Gunn and we just have to hope it doesn’t hold back the brave and the bold movie
Race Swap Suggestion. My Lex Luthor is the JL and STA show and too me i never seen him as white since the animators gave him a tan compared to the rest of the character's now in main stream media they have been white but just wanted someone else opinion if they race swapped him with any other race would it be a issue.
Snow White in the upcoming movie is played by a latina actress. Sunspot’s afro-brazilian (sorry for how short this sounds, I’m playing Xenoverse while listening 🥴)
Marvel just announced t’challa will be recasted THEY ARE LISTENING TO YOU GUYS🤣
No doubt!! We knew it!!!
Since we aren’t getting a Batman Film any time soon what did you guys thing of that Batman Beyond Year One Fan Film
th-cam.com/video/PTUF2v6r2eQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G63DkvOX-L14-th0
I think y’all have a misunderstanding of the Batman’s delay.. James Gunn said from the moment it was announced that the Batman was going to be delayed again he said it’s because the script is not finished.. he’s not writing the script so I’m just confused on why you keep saying he’s taking forever. It’s Matt Reeves😂 make your jokes but you should probably substitute James Gunns name for Matt reeves especially since Matt had a 2 year head start and his Batman will probably come out after the brave and the bold which is actually James’s gunns 😂
I think you have a misunderstanding.. we were reacting to James Gunns comments
@ no I get it, the jokes weren’t complicated but if you’re upset ab the delay and gonna make jokes ab it then you should probably use the right name. I get it you’re making fun of the ridiculous comments he made but the jokes were still phrased as he was the reason for the delays
I don't remember asking anyone what I should joke about 🤷♂️
Kicking off 2025 with a great one fellas!
Adrian and Mike, this is the Encyclopedia you need and I have it so I can vouch for it. DK Marvel Encyclopedia New Edition- With an Introduction by Stan Lee. I don’t have many comics but I’ve learned so much from this book 📕 so much info for any Marvel fan.
Let’s make a petition to get Adrian to play Rivals 😂 can’t wait for the fantastic 4 characters and season 1 to drop! Would be fun to play a few matches with you guys.
Awesome as always, catch you next week! 🫡🤘🏼
I'm gonna have to buy that book now!! Thanks!!
They are notorious for that.
Let’s go! 🔁
Disney should just #RecastTChallaSenior
Exactly
“Green lantern fan” lol!!! Doesn’t even know who Kyle rayner is!!!! Love you guys
lol.. we tell you every week that we are not experts
@ I know lol. We are only fans.
I hear you, but I’m divisive. Beau is a little salty imo 😂.
Oh he's definitely still bitter about being fired
Side note I’m a hater, Zack Snyder’s dc was terrible and I’d rather watch Adam west’s Batman
I respect that
What up Mike and Adrian! Love from Dallas once again!! As an extreme Thor fan with a mjolnir (mule-neer) tattoo. Do you guys see marvel being able to reconcile the atrocity they have turned this charecter into within his last 2-3 appearances on screen? I don’t think it’s too much to ask for one more kick ass hardcore Thor fight that’s all serious and no jokes.
I think they can, and it wouldn't take much
You guys cry too much . If they race swapped magneto, Black panther, or certain characters id understand cause it wouldnt fit the story but if norman is black white asian mexican really doesnt matter lol
oh sorry we should check with you next time to see if the race swap is approved before we give our own opinions on it