The suspension system is exactly what makes Audio Technica headphones like these preferable to other brands. Every other type I've tried hurts the top of my head after a while. That "clamping force" = crushing headache, with the pain concentrated right in the top middle of your skull, precisely where the gap between the "wings" on these is. Now you know why there's a gap. I wish it had some manual adjustment options to get a better individual fit, but I can wear them far longer than other headphones without pain.
I got these 2 weeks ago. At first I was disappointed, especially with the lower freq range. However they sort of opened up. Sounds amazing now. Definitely a pair to own. I drive them from an XDUOO TA-01 amp.
I have mine for 5 years and love them. Be careful with the cord connection at the phones... it is not hacked, and fails if stressed or pulled on too much. My wife's set failed there.
Great review as always. bought my first open back of these. Cant wait to get it. im still impressed that you answer almost all comments. you really really deserve more than 4.5k subscribers. Would love to hear your review of the ath ad900x.
+Halim I still have it. The short version of the AD900X is that it has no bass and huge 4k and 10k peaks but also a very good soundstage for gamers. Useful for first person shooters but much too lean and bright and harsh sounding for music IMO and also a very weird fit since the earcups don't swivel
metal571 yes, i hear u, i know bout the fit :) im gonna see if i have to bend it a little bit or not, But a hell of a price that i cant ignore, less than 100usd here and only 1 is left. i just have to take :), btw still have the m50x if this proves to be that bad a choice
Great videos I dont know how you don't have thousands of subscribers you get so many views well I subscribed on both my TH-cam accounts because you deserve every single subscriber.
I guess I have a tall/big head. I've tried many different headphones from Sennheiser HD6xx, 598 SE, Meze 99, Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro, and these didn't feel comfortable. Either too much clamping force (HD6xx), or it didn't extend enough (DT770). The Meze 99 extended just enough, but could have used one more click, and the ear cups were too small. For me, the right fit has been the Audio Technica ATH-AD700x (900x, 1000x). The wings allow for proper resting without the clamp down force of tight headbands for bigger and taller heads. If you have a small head, then it will droop down. This even happens to me and I have a large head. Because it rests on my ears comfortably and light as any headphones can get, I don't feel discomfort. There's zero clamping. And I just find it extremely challenging to find any headphones that are more comfortable. I've tried!
Have you tried the open back Ath-ad1000x or 2000x? If so how'd you like them? I'm looking for some nice open back cans for music and gaming (I primarily listen to Metal, Rap, and Alternative, and I play mostly fps or rpg games). I have been heavily been leaning towards the ad1000x's or the Fedelio x2, could you provide some guidance?
I just bought them and I must say you're more then right, the sound is so great AMAZING! Unbelievable enjoyable, rich and full bodied, and not just the treble but the bass as well feels full with a nice punch. Thanks so much for ur recommendation! One question: Which replacement earpads would you recommend?
Glad you enjoy them as much as I do. I haven't tried any myself but I recommend against getting any of the pads for the open back AD series as they can change the sound drastically from what I've read. Apparently the Clarino pads used for the A1000X and A2000X are a good upgrade.
+metal571 Can U pls tell me where can I get those pads? Btw forgot to mention they simply blown away my HFI-580 (going to sell them). Also - a very interesting fact with this cans - I can listen to them at high volume and it won't be too sharp to my ears because of its "creamy" sound, which means I can easily be taken over from my music at high volume in high moments..:) Super Fantastic! Thanks Again!!
Aroma Katz They're tough to find but you can get them on eBay here for example www.ebay.com/itm/AUDIO-TECHNICA-HP-A2000X-Earpads-for-ATH-A2000X-Replacement-Accessory-Headphones-/261999444495?hash=item3d0062420f
I recently got the AD900X and I am one of those skinny-headed people you mentioned. They fit and sit quite fine for me, but they do have a fairly big weight difference from the closed backs that you're reviewing here. A small work around for those with issues of these headphones slipping down is to unscrew the wings, and loop a hair-band around the arm (from underneath) to try to aid the clamping a bit or add a bit more support at the top of the head. A small and simple mod that doesn't damage the headphone. AD900X has an unbraided cord and also the 3.5mm jack is rather unimpressive next to this. I feel a bit cheated at that.
Wow, interesting. I thought AT used that kind of cable and jack on all their higher end stuff. Yep, the hairband mod is a pretty good way to overcome the light clamp from the wings.
I was a bit disappointed that it was just a regular, plastic, un-threaded jack, even though the 6.3mm adapter has an internal thread. Still, it's a rather small gripe and certainly doesn't detract from the quality of the headphones. They weigh only 265grams compared to the 330g of the A900X, so I haven't even needed to do that hair-band mod due the light construction, however it's an easy option if the need comes along.
To all who complain about the fit, that it's not tight enough and sound is leaking out. I would like to share what I did to fix that. I connected the two Wings of the headphone together (from above) with a rubber from "Goody ouchless" rubbers (their rubbers are surrounded with fabric so it wont scratch or stick to anything) and they hold together very nicely, not too much, just perfectly. Enjoy
The A900X sounds amazingly similar to my studio monitor speakers which is exactly what I was looking for in a headphone. Now I can listen to superb quality sound without causing my neighbours any problems. Despite my neighbours house being detached from mine by over 50 feet , they can't hear my audio system but they complained that the bass travelling through the ground makes their house shake and vibrate.
Yeah as someone who has to deal with apartment life I don't have much of a choice but to use headphones. These are still my primary closed headphones and I use them at work
+metal571 I have recently discovered that Audio Technica have brought out improved versions of the 500X, 700X and 900X. They are now the 500Z, 700Z and 900Z. Will be interesting to find out what improvements they have achieved. Lastly, your reviews are technically superb. Please keep them coming.
I've "had" these, and they did sound OK. They were a step above the A700X model I had a few years back. The reason I say "had", is because they broke. The hing is made of cheap plastic, and so I would note rank these as durable. My A700X cans broke in the same location, go figure. They did sound OK, but nothing spectacular. The bass on these was a bit reserved, but you are right, the mid range is were these shined. I did burn them in, and they did sound better after 20 or so hours of use. Sadly, they are not durable. I have decided I will not pursue a replacement of these. I'm going to buy some beyerdynamic DT-770 Pros ( 80ohm), Audio Technica ATH-M40X and a Pair of Sony MDR-7506. So far, the Sony's are bright and childish ( I like that ), the M40x's are a bit reserved and mature. There tonal quality is very nice and flat. I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50, and they are great for movies, but can be a little over bearing ( low end ) for detailed music listening. I like bass, but these are like having a mini sub on your head. For Hip-hop-R&B, Pop, they sound great, but for Classical, World, or New age, not really recommended!!! For Rock / Medal genre, its a toss up. The M50s are like the Sony 7506, but in the teenage years, with more low end and not quite as bright. To clarify, I like the M50's, but they are not for all "my" listening purposes. I'm still waiting on the 770 pro's in the mail, so I can't speak for them just yet.
Thanks a lot for the great review Is it amp/dac dependent? If so, which amp/dac would you recommend for these headphones? Would you say it's a decent upgrade from ATH M-50? Thank you in advance.
Definitely an upgrade over the M50, definitely. I don't really own any serious DACs or amps right now, but I'm sure you can bring out the best in this with a Modi 2 and Magni 2.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Thank you for your reply! I think I will try these without amp first (I bought these two days ago) and if I think I need amp and dac I will consider getting modi 2 and magni 2
I couldn't figure out how to expand them for my big head. They were too tight unlike my old Audio Technica AD500s, which fit nice and loose. I had to return mine.
Excellent precise review, I have both the A900X and DT770 and love them too. Hard to beat for the price. The 770s are my daily users because of the comfort and I like the Beyer sound. I am trying to decide if I want to upgrade to either the T1 or LCD2, lots of coin..!
Thank you for your opinion. Sounds like the T1 is for me, I like the forward sound. Seems like most of Headfi tend to agree too. Any comments if Audeze headphones are really worth the price compared to Senn/Beyer, do you really get that much more?
I meant I like the semi forward Beyer sound :) Something like the LCD3, $1.5K more than DT770 is crazy to me. Welp, only way to find out is demo! Thanks, I really appreciate your opinion judging by your reviews.. subbed!
I have a small head and they work well with me. Idk why some people have so much trouble with them. Maybe they move around a lot? I definitely wouldn't recommend them for exercise or anything but that seems obvious. Great for sitting at the desk.
Great reviews very melo easy to watch. Appreciate it. Wanted to ask would you say the soundstage is comparable to some open backs? I need a closed can specifically for gaming and nothing else. I can't make up my mind because I want the best soundstage I can get for a closed back style. Any advice would help. Thanks
i bought the A900Z (not sure what's the difference with the X) but the difference between my current 990Z's and the ATH-A700X is a lot! i was not expecting to be so pleased!
sky Thanks I still use these quite a bit whereas sometimes I've changed my mind in terms of personally liking or not on some of the other headphones I review here. These are difficult to hate IMO.
Nice review! I've never owned an Audio-Technica headphone, but I'll consider one whenever I make another headphone purchase. What headphone do you plan on reviewing next? Or is that perhaps a secret? :P
I still haven't talked about my HD595 modded HD555 or my PortaPro yet. The rest I've covered. I'm actually sending this guy back cause of the channel imbalance issue. It's pretty bad and I just don't want to take a chance on another one. Also compared to the DT770 it just lacks details because the treble is relaxed. I guess I've become a treble detail head of sorts. Still recommended though at this price, but I doubt people like you would find it exceptional ;) What I need next is a Schiit Magni 2, and then I plan on buying a TOTL by the end of the year. Probably the HD800 or T1.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Well yeah, I probably won't buy the AD900X, but I'd certainly like to hear it. :) From what I've heard and read, it's a great value for what it's going for ($144.95 currently on Amazon), and I think it's always great to have at least one mid-fi headphone in everyone's collection. You mentioned that the volume from one of the Audio-Technica's earcups noticeably decreased. This piqued my interest because I've read accounts of STAX owners having this problem. One possible culprit is dust, so I've tried to always keep my SR-009 on a stand where the earcups are sealed. I think I'm even going to buy a dust cover to put on top of that just to be safe than sorry. I already noticed that the left earcup is just a hair louder (when I turn the volume all the way down on my amp and then turn it up very slowly), but it's unnoticeable at normal listening levels (I just hope it doesn't get worse). I know there are a host of other issues that can cause channel imbalance, I'm just curious if that's what happened in this case too.
Jacks Kelly With dynamic drivers I don't think that's usually what causes any issues, that's more of an estat thing having dust on the driver. In this case it was simply from the factory, mismatched in volume between the two drivers. Sometimes it can happen, but for some headphones it is just the way they are designed so I'm not really sure but according to other people with the A900X I might just have a faulty one. I've never heard this problem on any Sennheisers, AKGs, or Beyers, which tend to come with very well matched driver responses. Also BTW this is the closed back A900X not the AD900X, which is open.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Oh, my mistake, I meant the A900X. If you have to choose between getting either the HD800 or T1, I would choose the HD800 personally (having owned both), but they're both great.
Hi from México Congrats. You do great reviews. I am watching an old video 😀 after watching your fostex TX X00 review. Wich one of these 2 have the Best sound stage and bass for metal music, but at the same time great for jazz? Thanks bro for you exelent reviews
Hello, thank you for the review! I am considering buying either these headphones or the Beyerdynamic COPs, however, I am not sure which ones to go for. Which headphones do you prefer for listening to music (I listen to a mixture of rock and electronica). Thanks!
That's a tough question. While I love the A900X, I haven't heard the COPs. But from what I've read either would be a great choice for music enjoyment. I listen to a mix of EDM and metal the A900X works perfectly for those genres. That, I can tell you.
Thanks for the review. I've been on the fence with these for a while. Would you say they're the best closed headphones for metal in a moderate price bracket - $300 and below? I'm looking for something with decent isolation that can also provide that airy guitar sound of opened cans. Ever come across good semi-open cans with some isolation that don't allow you to hear every single noise from your neighbors yard? Or is isolation simply a lost cause in anything other than a fully closed back?
In my experience anything semi-open is essentially 90 percent open back and leaks almost as much. If you want some slam to your bass check out my DT770/80 ohm review. The K550 is a very neutral option but is a bit rough with metal guitar distortion in the upper mids and the bass extends well but isn't strong. The A900X is more colored and has warm mids and not a ton of bass impact either, but its mids are never fatiguing with metal and guitars sound awesome on it. Take your pick, I got reviews on all 3.
+metal571 I still haven't decided. Was actually leaning towards the Beyer T70, but eh, I think it's probably overkill - too detailed and pristine for my purposes(metal/old jazz/gaming). The driver imbalance of the 900x keeps putting me off, as well as perhaps some minor veiling that I've seen described. Also I keep flipping between open or closed cans. Ultimately I'm trying to find something that has an aggressive guitar sound that is upfront, while not removing the mid presence of vocals like the m50 does. The 900x apparently is great with vocals, but maybe not always upfront with guitar, as you say guitar sometimes gets pushed back in the mix. Seems headphones are either relaxed/warm or hollow/bright for the most part.
+metal571 Prob would have to be the 598 as I'm not really looking to get an additional amp for the 600. The 598 can almost be said to be the open version of the 900x - 900x having more bass and 598 being more open and refined with similar sound signature? The drivers don't seem to match all that well on the graph of those either but I've never read any complaints about that for the 598. Seems it's just more noticeable on the 900x for some reason.
Nah they sound somewhat different now that I've been using them a while. A900X is smoother through the mids and still has a prominent spike at 10k. 598 has a more even response but rolls off the bass earlier
Do you still consider these as your favorite closed-back in around sub-$300 range ? Just bought dt770 80ohm based on your video and wonder if these ( intended for vocals, J-pop, and string OST ) would complement well with 770 ( using primarily for movie and anime now )
Right now I've been using the 380 a lot. But the A900X is a special sauce kind of headphone. Yes very different from the 770s so would be a good addition for you I think.
Sounds like you like a900x sound a bit more than hd380. Why the switch ? It's a little hard to get my hands on a900x. Any alternative in mind with similar signature ? Comfort level which do you prefer ?(dt770 fits my head comfortably for long period of listening if that says anything.) Thanks a lot for the instantaneous response :-)
Chia Dai 380 is a bit more comfortable, larger pads but higher clamp. The only reason I use the 380 is that I really only use closed backs at work that have the highest isolation I can find, and the A900X only has average isolation. It leaks too much to really use where I do in an office with an officemate
+KairosSecond I think both are good for music but the A900X is more fun to listen to, however it doesn't have the soundstage of the 598 that you need for first person shooter multiplayer
I would like to ask you for your opinion. I'm thinking about the ATH-A990Z and would like to ask if they sound the same as the A900X? Are the upgrade version of the ATH-A900X? Are they completely different headphones? I ordered an ATH-A990Z from amazon and noticeably the left earphone plays louder than the right one. The seller said that this model is like that, while the website says that it is not possible. At 500Hz the difference is about 2-3dB, while at 1000Hz it reaches up to 5dB. I'm afraid this is not a manufacturing defect of this model. Regards.
They do not sound the same. 990z is a downgrade to the 900x. Not surprised about the problem you're having with them. Audio-technica usually screws something up. I have the 990z here now. Can't wait to return them. They make me sick just looking at them. Maybe I will trade them in for a pair of beats.
I sincerely hope that the pair I might buy has a driver mis-match ... my application is digital piano, and this issue would over-emphasize either the high or low notes..... Is the cable detachable? Looks like it isn't. Great review!
@@metal571 Thanks! I have AKG 271 Mk. ii for 11 years, totally shot but just ordered replacement parts. Looking for another closed can set for digital piano (Jazz) playing, recording (sax, piano) and mixing. Noisy surroundings. I have horrible TMJ (jaw joint) issues. Bought and returning BD DT 7709 Pro - 5 minutes was all my jaw could stand. My 271's don't hurt. Read somewhere that the A900X have higher clamping = bad for me. Considering Senn 598Cs; supposedly really low clamping. Don't really want a duplicate of my 271s; seeking variety. Any thoughts?
This video made me decide to buy this headphone, and it's the first headphone that gave me the transparent feeling when listening to asian vocal songs.
I usually like open cans, or at least I'm on the hunt for that. I have my closed can/bass monsters, I have M Audio Q 40, V Moda M 100, Sony XB 500 and Ultrasone Pro 900.. I recently have been craving open-back clarity inducing headphones. I started with the Grado SR80e as I got to test it out at a local audio store. I have to say I know this in your face sound is not for everyone, but I personally love it for most musics with traditional instruments. I try to EQ the highs down a bit as they can get a little harsh. My next cans will be another open-back. Debating between the Grado 325 i, since I seem to like the Grado sound, and the AT AD900x
+Keith Scull keep the Q701 in mind as it also has forward mids but super clear upper highs and an ultra wide soundstage... if you like flavor cans like the 80e it's also worth a listen
Dear sir! I listen to music everyday , its one of the things that really makes me feel good (all genres from zappa to synthwave , to tribal jazz and pure heavy metal with some fat rap beats in the middle! lol ), but my understanding of the specifics of sound and headphones is very limited. the way you explain it tho , it makes me really understand what you are talking about, and that's very pleasing! My last headphones just broke, and I'm looking for a new pair. the way you talked about this ones, makes me really thing they are the ideal ""fit"" for me! I want a sound that is not very "histerical" , a "sweet" sound with good detail , that respects the original sound created by the artists, and since I also game (and that's very important for me too) , I want good directional input. This are the ideal "fit" for me , and not just the ideal fit , because I don't have a large head , my face is thin! Is there any headphones u recall that suit those parameters? this kind of sound and directional input, made for smaller heads? if u do , great! id u don't , great| its very pleasing to listen to you talking about sound, good job!
Definitely better because the cups give your ears a lot more room in terms of depth. I wear glasses myself and haven't had an issue with any of the cans I've owned, but the 271 is hard for me to deal with over long periods without taking out the foam in front of the drivers to give my ears more room.
metal571 Unfortunately, my brother will be using either an MSI laptop or an iPod, so no amping. So the DT770 32 ohm would work if they're still considered good. Thanks.
Smaller? Are you sure you didn't buy the AD900X, which is the open back version of this headphone? It's completely different. This is the closed version and since I have both, I can tell you that the AD900X has only thin square head pads. That's normal.
+metal571 Yeah they are the closed back for sure. I could take a picture but maybe its just my eyes deceiving me because the head pads just look thinner like the ad900x, but without the gaps of course. I also got them used so maaaybe they we're replaced or something. Or again it could jsut be me being tricked.
First off I want to thank you for your review, I have watched many of your video reviews and like them a lot, unfortunately I am not quite as satisfied with my headphone purchase, these Audio Technica ATH-A900x. My issues are numerous and quite serious, really deal-breaking unfortunately as I was super excited and looking forward to getting these headphones and really, really wanted to like them, but I just don't. 1. It is definitely an issue, and I personally consider it very serious; the driver matching is terrible, my right earcup is significantly louder than the left. If I am going to pay $100+ on a pair of headphones this should not happen, it is simply unacceptable to me. I know it's an easy fix, and I did "fix" it on both my stereo amp and my computer, but again, this simply should not happen with a $100+ pair of audiophile headphones. 2. This might sound strange, but in spite of their lightweight build and supposedly light clamping force(according to all that I've read and heard), I find them physically uncomfortable because there is too much pressure on the side of my head. The wings work fine for me, I have no issue with them as the headphones don't slip off my head or anything, but the force around my ears is simply uncomfortable and not easily tolerated. And like you say, these cans are quite isolating, which while not a huge issue, I don't especially like. 3. Well, I could go on and on and on, but I'm not giving my own review here, just hoping someone could recommend something else. I don't like the sound of these, I'd say they're maybe a bit fuller, but I personally don't find them much better than my Sony MDR V6s, which unfortunately broke recently, one side, as the wire got frayed, hence the purchase of these AT A900xs. I don't have anything to compare these to(except my Sonys), but I don't hear an expansive soundstage at all, certainly nothing that extends much beyond the earcups. I also wish things were clearer, with greater instrumental separation and detail, more nuance and openness/airiness. Personally, I feel the sound of these are very homogeneous(obviously with different timbres of course) like a large mass/blob of sound, not necessarily bloated, but definitely not refined either. I don't think I would use the word lush to describe them, but that's me. I guess I'd say that I think I tend to prefer a "brighter" sound. I like the idea of a neutral monitor headphone that's "balanced" but I don't especially like laid back, but I don't want in your face and strident either. I don't know if this is an apt analogy, but while I certainly don't like someone yelling/screaming at me, I don't want to have to lean in to hear someone whispering either. I want someone to speak up, I guess speak forward, loudly and clearly, then I will be actively engaged in listening to them. I listen mostly to classical music and am definitely not crazy about bass, but that's not to say that bass is not important to me, it is, but I'm okay with it being a bit understated and in the background. I guess it's most important that it not interfere with the rest of the sound/music, and be pretty quick and tonally accurate. The reason I didn't go with the Sennheiser HD 600s is because, I didn't want to spend an extra $100, ie. over $200, $240+ for a pair of headphones, and I don't really like the idea of open headphones either. I want to be able to listen to my music privately without disturbing others. So are there any suggestions that you can make, for a closed back headphone less than $200, meeting many of the criteria I laid out above? And while I haven't heard them, I don't think I'm going to be a Beats guy, as I certainly don't give a darn about the marketing hype or popularity. I suppose this may be an impossible task, but hopefully someone is up to the challenge. Finally, again, this isn't personal, I really did like and appreciate your review Metal571, I watched the video numerous times actually, but I I just want to say how disappointed I am that these headphones are not all I've seen and heard them made out to be by so many people/online reviewers.
Oh I don't blame you, I never would have recommended something like this for classical. Yes, the channel imbalance is well known but isn't bad enough for me to be bothered by it since I enjoy the rest of the sound so much for the genres I tend to listen to. No, I don't have any recommendations under 200. SAVE up, and buy the HD 600. It is dead neutral and was specifically designed as a classical music reference headphone. That's what you want, as well as some source powerful enough to drive it like a headphone amp.
I bought these after my DT770's died. My god they are frail. Not at all fatiguing. I was unable to pick which I liked better back when I had both. Cost me double than what you're paying though.
So I'm coming from M50's. I loved them, but I'm giving them to a buddy and I wanna try something different this time. I cant decide between these A900x, or Beyerdynamics DT-770 Pro 80. I dont want to be using any amps. I'll be using them on my phone(galaxy s5) and for desktop gaming. AD900x variant are also on the list. Thoughts? I've watched your video for the 770-80 and I'm still torn between them
A900X is easier to drive than the 770, and the AD900X open back is also easier to drive but sounds quite different than the A900X. Depends on if your priority is music or gaming. Also you definitely won't be able to use the AD900X in public as they are wide open
+metal571 Sound wise, which would you recommend, A900x's or DT770-80's? I listen to too many genres to say I need a headphone to specialize in one. Since I dont plan on using an amp(just inconvenient), would I still be able to enjoy the Dt770-80's. I hear mixed comments everywhere regarding not using an amp. Thank you for replying so quick haha
TalmidimAlex DT770 is more colored so I'd get the A900X and it's much easier to drive. Amps make almost no difference in sound quality most of the time unless your source is extremely bad. The 770 is not effortless to drive with simple sources like phones and motherboard audio
Hi! As always I like your review, nice and detailed! But now comes the part where I completely disagree with you. Yesterday I auditioned the A990z, which supposed to be the upgrade of the A900x. If they bear any resemblance, than I think we are never gonna love the same headphones. It has this kind of hifi sound that I was moving away from the very first moment I heard the M50x. Its bass is sloppy and it is exaggerrated in the midbass region, but the lowpoint is really the missing upper midrange. Vocals - particulary female ones - sound distant and without definition, because everything is missing between 1k and 8k. I already know very precisely that this area is what you find fatiguing, so I understand why you like them. This is the area that is missing on the Momentum and to some extent on the M40x and the MDR-1A. And that is what made me buy the M50x instead of them. The treble is nice though, and it helps to bring back some sparkle. I have read that this is the area where they improved, and removed some sibilance (aka a 8-10k peak). It has this really awkward hifi V-shape, that just never really made me happy. And although I think it is a forgiving sound, and I can see why people prefer over the M50x-representation I always wonder why they call this kind of sound signature more neutral. Hell no! It is less neutral in every way. If you really want neutral in the mastering sense of the word, than stick with the Harman curve. And these are way further than the M50x! Add to that the huge pads make it not really over ear, as they sit on the boundary of my ears, and I find it highly disturbing. The M50x pads are not big and comfy, but at least my ears fit in the hole. Overall for me it is way behind the M50x in every sense. For the current price of the A900x (150$) I would say it could be good for some people, but even considering its sound signature I would go for the MDR-1A as it is more comfortable and portable. But for the asking price of the A990z (260$), no way I would buy it!
metal571 That is totally possible, so take my words with a grain of salt. However I still feel from your review that I would have problem with the missing upper midrange. The problem is also there on the A1000x when you see Tyll's graphs. And the comfort also did not convince me. Anyway it is always worth trying something else. It would be good if you could test the A990z, I am really curious about your oppinion about them.
Like night and day. These have a smooth V-shaped sound (quite strong bass and sprakling treble, but nice laid back in the middle), the MSR7 is upper mid forward (vocals are very much in your face, but bass is quite missing). The MSR7 is compact and portable, folds flat, and come with removable short cables and one with a mic. These are more home hifi headphones, bulky and the cables are attached. Comfortwise I prefer the MSR7, although they have a stronger clamping force. I dont like the form of the pads on these, they are just not big enough to squeeze my ears inside - which is odd consindering the huge housing. I dont have that issue with the MSR7. Anyway they are built for different purposes. Both of them are good in their categories.
I'm not listening to lots of music but I do watch lots of movies and those are action packed. So you can guess I'm in love with sound effect. I was just one step away from buying M50X till I have seen your review. I was actually considering between M50X, V-moda 100, DT770 Pro. Would you please suggest me a good headphone for my movie experience in that price range.
Seems like these are discontinued :( I've been looking around for a pair and there are some used ones for between $180 and $240. Think that is worth it? What about the ATH-A900Z or the 1000Z? Have you tried those?
The 900Z or 990Z is very similar, perhaps a bit warmer according to people who have heard it. I still wouldn't pay much more than 150. 180 is not too bad. The 1000Z could be very different, especially with fit since the 1000 and 2000 series models don't have hinged ear cups.
I've got the limited edition of these particular cans. I don't know what to think about them actually. It feels like there's something missing. I've got a pre-amp inbetween my macbook/pc/audio-source in general and the headphones even though it's only 80Ohm impandance, but that doesn't really fix the problem. It feels like there's a thin piece of paper inbetween the cans and my ears. Like everything is a bit in the background instead of sparkly and clear.
So im very new to quality headphones but ive been doing some research and ath a900x vs dt 770 seems to be a very common topic and i was wondering if either preform well on an iphone 6. i have a hp laptop capable of gaming if they dont but i was hoping to just be pointed in the right direction
+Harpyjack both are enormous and have cables too long for them to be portable. The 770 is harder to drive to loud levels but depends on how loud you listen. The A900X is a better bet for getting loud from most sources but also sounds totally different.
I honestly don't know a lot about portable stuff. Us audiophiles tend to focus mostly on large over ear headphones that only work well from home sources. Maybe a K545? Should sound about the same as the 553
I've got the a900s from about 5 years back. Right side has stopped working so am in the market for a new pair of headphones. Lots of options. Not sure if I want these a900xs, the limited edition of these (an extra $50), the 598s from sennheiser, or this new z range ive never seen, the 990z? Are the 990z the upgraded version of the a900x? $309 AUD is quite steep but I love my current a900s theyve been great...So I guess the question is 990z vs 598s?
Recently I compared it with m50x, DT700 pro x, DT177x go. I thinks A900X has the widest soundstage. DT177x has the deepest bass but narrower soundstage. DT700 has wider soundstage than DT177x, but similar bass as A900x. M50x is not at the same level as these 3. So I sold it. Overall, A900X is very good among these 3, maybe the best all arounder. But one thing might be the deal breaker, is that DT700 and DT177x use Beyerdynamic Tesla technology, which is much easier to drive although the have 48ohm and 32 ohm respectively, they are noticably louder than A900x. If you use mobile or laptop without amp a lot, go for Beyerdynamic. But these two are more expensive.
Never thought to compare all of those, but I still have the A900X and DT 770 80 ohm and use the latter mostly because of the super comfortable velour pads
I own HD600 and K551 (quite flat cans) and I’m looking for a more musical pair to complete my collection. Headphones with thight and punchy bass, amazing mids, airy treble and wide soundstage... Something bringing emotion from the music... I’ve heard good things about Grado SR325e and ATH-Axxx series, but what would be your top pick(s)?
+Dominic Boucher can't stand Grados, the mids are anything but smooth and there's no sub bass. A 250 ohm DT770 has very punchy bass, a wide stage, and quite bright and lively highs with lots of extension if you want to give that a try.
Thanks, I should probably give them a try (I always be afraid of Beyer's piercing highs...). Do you think A900x will be too warm and relax considering that I'm used to listen to HD600/K551? Do you think K712 or Q701 may worth a try in terms of "musicality increase" from my actual cans?
+Dominic Boucher idk about musicality with the open AKGs. They are still not very bassy and have somewhat aggressive weird midrange coloration. Totally depends on what you listen to
i am looking at buying my first pair of quality headphones and these are currently $185 (aud) which are cheaper than the m50x's. I listen to metal core/ post hardcore and also listen to alot of edm. I was wandering since i dont have the chance to audition any headphones, if buying the a900x's wouls be a good purchase or should i look elsewhere
Hey metal my a900x just stopped working in one ear :( i now need to find a replacement what would you reccomend i get i still listen to metal music i was thinking of the byerdynamic dt 770s but really not sure i want to see what you think because i loved these and i dont want to get anything worse as a replacement
How do these stand up in 2022. Wanting to pair these with a ifi zen dac V2 or Schiit hel 2. Hoping in a year or Two to mod it with the removal cable. Will be trying the open back version with PC games, music, and record collection from 60s-80s
@@metal571 I've also wondered if they will be a big improvement to just try and double the amount for sundara. I heard some other videos say certain size ears/heads sit weird with the sundaras.
I'm on a quest for closed-back headphones that are as comfortable as my Astro A40 headset. The ear cups on these A900X's look pretty large. I don't want my ears to touch the driver fabric. Would this be a contender for what I'm looking for?
Your ears will definitely touch the fabric, but the fabric on these is very soft and the drivers are way back in the earcups, and angled. So your ears never rub against anything except a very thin fabric. If you're looking for ultra comfortable closed-backs I recommend the DT770. I have a review on that as well.
Ah yes. I've been eyeballing the DT770 as well. (The 32 ohm version.) Drivers deep in the cups is what I'm looking for. So the DT770s are deeper than these Audio Technicas? I'll watch your review for them right now.
M50X are NOT for listening to music or gaming, but nobody cares, they still buy headphones for the wrong reasons. Also, A900X are $450-$500 in my country and that means I will never buy. Maybe MSR7 is a better option for $250.
+GraveNoX yeah I got lucky with the A900X, they were 150 over here in the US before being discontinued on Amazon so now are only available for import and have shot up in price considerably. I wouldn't pay much more than 150 for them.
Yeah i was wanting to get a pair today just not sure what is better for me been reading for a while and posted in a avs forum with no luck, i'd like to get the best neutral sounding closed headphones i can with a very open sound stage. I found only 3 i think the 770, K550, and these. Could you give me some quick help?
***** 770 is super colored, A900X is also a flavor headphone, and the K550 is quite neutral but I didn't find its soundstage expansive. No closed headphone will be able to match the stage of an open back, but the K550 at least doesn't sound as in your head as an M50
Hello. I think I'd like to pull the trigger on these now but I have some reservations. So, I hope you can address these issues. 1. You're not the only person who has complained about one of the drivers being louder than the other. I can, at least, remember reading two such complaints on head-fi. Do you think that's something to worry about ? 2. The con that most people list for these headphones is the wing support design. They claim that it's only suited for those with large heads. Now, its difficult to know what constitutes a large head. If these cans can properly rest on your head, it means that they will properly rest on my head if the circumference of my head is equal to or larger than that of yours. The problem is I can't discern from the video the circumference of your head. Mine is 59cm. I know this sounds ridiculous, would you mind reporting yours ? 3. Where can I buy these ? I heard they went for $150 in the past. I wouldn't mind buying refurbished. Thanks.
+medwatt I would get a pair from Amazon, that way you can always easily return them if you don't like them. The wing supports work for me but I know others with smaller heads that don't have much of an issue. As far as the channel imbalance, yeah, that's definitely a thing, but is easily fixable by either using the Windows balance controls or an EQ program. It's about 0.5-1 dB off so nothing major, but noticeable.
metal571 I know. It was also on buydig. Now, only the open version of these cans are available with prime. Its a bit risky buying from a seller in Japan and its also a little more expensive. Given the state of the Japanese Yen, shouldn't the price have gone lower ?
medwatt maybe the fact that they're "discontinued" in the US has driven up the price. Looks like the A700X is still available on prime though. It should be somewhat similar as I have the A500X as well and it has a very similar sound as the 900 just not as refined. But I couldn't tell you for sure how the 700 sounds.
I saw that you use the ATH-A900X + E10k at work and at home Schiit Modi 1 + Magni 2. Would you say that it's worth upgrading my E10k to a Modi 2 Uber, if we're talking just about the DAC and line out capabilities? I just use the E10k as a DAC for the moment. I will mention that i did test the E10k vs Fiio X5, X5 mk2 and can't hear any difference on Sennheiser Momentum M2 over the ear and my stereo sistem wich is pretty good. The speakers are 3 way DIY's and i have put them in some A/B tests with commercial ones, and are in the 3-4k area sound wise. Love to hear your opinion as i like your view on things. Keep it up!
+Ionescu George Alexandru Magni 2 Uber will give you much more power for higher impedance headphones. I don't think it's worth it if your headphones are already getting loud enough though
+Ionescu George Alexandru lol even my HD 600 sounds great from just about anything. I will never understand the level of perfectionism that plagues the likes of Head-Fi
Hey metal571/Term1naLFurY I know you know your audio and I wanted your opinion on some headphones. I found someone selling sennheiser HD 598 for $150, is it a good buy? How do they sound? Do I need a dedicated sound card to use them? If not my motherboard supports 7.1 audio.
Well, they're going for 150 right now new on Amazon, so might as well get them brand new. It's a good price for the quality they deliver, yes. You won't need a dedicated sound card, but most motherboards don't support virtual surround effects like Dolby Headphone if that's what you want to use with them. They're very low impedance so will run just fine with onboard sound. Their sound is pretty flat, with a slight edge in the upper mids, decent treble detail, and good but not excellent bass extension. I've heard them once. A good all around headphone that can be used for gaming or music alike.
DarkZennen they do but it's a pretty neutral bass. Open headphones are seldom to never bass heavy. That's for fun closed back headphones. If you really must have your bass but also a soundstage, get a DT770.
metal571/Term1naLFurY so with dt770 could i hear someone trying to sneak up on me in battlefield or say hear gun fire from a mile a way? since i wont be able to afford an amp for a while, probably until next year which ones should i get 80 ohm or the 250 ohm?
The problem is, it's better to get a headphone that's more flat for hearing details like that. Bassy headphones like the 770 can obscure fine details at times. They do also need a decent amount of power. The 32 ohm is what I would recommend as that one has less of a bass boost than the 80 ohm which has the most boost.
HI. How do you compare AD900X to AKG 712, that you have reviewed recently? I mostly listen to soft/mellow rock, classical, a bit of pop. What would you recommend? waiting for your review on AD900X :)
Both, and I'm serious. The A900X is way more laid back and much better for loud listening and just enjoyment in general, whereas the DT770 is a V shaped monster bass headphone with a shining treble. It depends on the genre. If I had to pick only one, it would be the DT770 for comfort reasons though. I have an AKG K550 coming in tomorrow so expect a review on that one as well soon.
metal571/Term1naLFurY I have a FiiO x1 and Sennheiser Momentum On Ear . Soon get an headphone amp and I plan to buy a headphone for home use but closed back type because I need a decent bass response for my music . My musical tastes are varied, alternative rock, hard rock, heavy metal, guitar instrumental , pop , hip hop, smooth jazz , funky , chill out , house and techno.
juan luis Quiroz guevara DT770 will cover all genres but will always have a bassy response. If you're gonna get an amp setup like a Magni 2 and Modi 2, get the 250 ohm DT770 which will be easily driven by that.
I noticed I listen to a lot of the same music I also listen to a lot of melodic Punk bands like Pennywise, Bad Religion as well as Heavier stuff like Beartooth, Lionheart,Faith No More, etc but I also like my 80s classics like The Cars and Tom Petty etc lol....My question is what 2 or 3 headphones would you recommend for a great sound for rock,metal,punk etc with nothing over the 300 dollar range....would appreciate any suggestions and thanks.
What are you looking for, flat, a little extra bass, treble? What headphones have you had before and what did you like about them? Since sound is so relative, that would help.
im actually now just getting into better sound......I have played music for a long time and have opened for Misfits etc but at that point a simple cheap headset done the job and DRI or Dead Kennedys was good lol.....But here lately I have got my hands on Audio Technica ATH M50X's and like them but wanted to see if I would be able to find something a little better. I am wanted a well rounded sound to where it is crisp but still yet has a punch on a good breakdown but when i mean punch i dont mean like a over bearing sloppy bass sound you would get from a pair of beats....I mean like a nice thump but meaningful. I want my highhats to stand out and the snares to ring...I jsut want a ALL AROUND solid ass heatphone that works great with all rock etc but yet is nice enough for something on the range of Oingo Boingo or Gary Newman lol......If all my rambling made since to you lol...Sorry its harder for me to get what I mean when I am just getting into this.
You said you would put these up there with DT770?? how is the bass compared to DT770? Im now interested in these especially since its low ohms so I dont have to spend extra money on amp/dac.. But yeah you said mids and highs were good and my only questions how are the bass on these compare to DT770.. Thanx
Do you think I will be satisfied overall with bass and everything with the genres of music I listen to? I been really trying to find how is the bass on these? btw have you ever used Bose QC15?
haha so question now DT770s vs A900x lol.. maybe ill get A900x and get amp with a bass booster ? Also what about AD900x? I heard they are even better when it comes to bass and quality?
These headphones are exactly what I'm looking for, the perfect sound signature, look, everything. I need a second headphone ( closed ) beside my k 702 so I looked up a lot of stuff and couldnt find anything like that. So I'm about to buy them but it troubles me that the price is now up to 210€, and I wonder if I can buy something better for the same price range, maybe you can help me. I want one like that and nothing else. I think that's what the ATH-A990Z is but it's 279,00 € in my country, and that's a little too much.
Just be aware that these are way different than the 702. I find them a little bass light without EQ now but the mids are super smooth and relaxed. There is a prominent 10k spike actually that I probably didn't understand at the time I filmed this. Still syrupy mids and enjoyable for sure. I don't know of any headphone that gives the same kind of audiophile Audio-Technica sound, which is a "romantic" Japanese signature.
Yes I know that they are different from the k 702 and it's the main reason why I want another one hahaha. I'm just confused to see that it was cheaper before, and if putting an extra 60€ would be worth ( or getting something better at the same price).
It doesn't, but those specs mean nothing and you should never look at them. Unfortunately I don't think anyone has actually made frequency response and CSD graphs for the 990.
I think that I'll just go for the one you reviewed here. I could reduce the costs and go for ath-a550z at 160€ which is pretty cheap, but 220€ seems like the sweet spot. I just was affraid of it being too old, but when you look at the K 702 that kind of concern is bullshit :D. It really is weird though. There are like 6/7 headphones, in a similar price range, and with almost the same specs. there are ath-A, ath-AX, and ath-aZ, with the 500, 700, and 900 series.
those wings are awful, best is leather strap, and that damn cable is also shit, I believe that sound is good but overall Audio technica make same mistakes maybe it is to lower the price, probably
Another detailed, fair, easy to watch review. Thank you and keep it up.
Thanks and I will
I’ve also got a pair and found them fantastic, the sound is very smooth it’s not over powering just a smooth not over punchy tone. Luv them dearly. 👌👌
Val Fotevski Agreed.
The suspension system is exactly what makes Audio Technica headphones like these preferable to other brands. Every other type I've tried hurts the top of my head after a while. That "clamping force" = crushing headache, with the pain concentrated right in the top middle of your skull, precisely where the gap between the "wings" on these is. Now you know why there's a gap. I wish it had some manual adjustment options to get a better individual fit, but I can wear them far longer than other headphones without pain.
I got these 2 weeks ago. At first I was disappointed, especially with the lower freq range. However they sort of opened up. Sounds amazing now. Definitely a pair to own. I drive them from an XDUOO TA-01 amp.
+David Farrugia actually they don't have a ton of bass so you can always EQ them
I have mine for 5 years and love them. Be careful with the cord connection at the phones... it is not hacked, and fails if stressed or pulled on too much. My wife's set failed there.
Great review as always. bought my first open back of these. Cant wait to get it. im still impressed that you answer almost all comments. you really really deserve more than 4.5k subscribers. Would love to hear your review of the ath ad900x.
+Halim I still have it. The short version of the AD900X is that it has no bass and huge 4k and 10k peaks but also a very good soundstage for gamers. Useful for first person shooters but much too lean and bright and harsh sounding for music IMO and also a very weird fit since the earcups don't swivel
metal571 yes, i hear u, i know bout the fit :) im gonna see if i have to bend it a little bit or not, But a hell of a price that i cant ignore, less than 100usd here and only 1 is left. i just have to take :), btw still have the m50x if this proves to be that bad a choice
Great videos I dont know how you don't have thousands of subscribers you get so many views well I subscribed on both my TH-cam accounts because you deserve every single subscriber.
Thanks so much I really appreciate it
For me the fit is the best out there. It feels light on your head and you can wear them for extended period. The sound is awesome aswell
I guess I have a tall/big head. I've tried many different headphones from Sennheiser HD6xx, 598 SE, Meze 99, Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro, and these didn't feel comfortable. Either too much clamping force (HD6xx), or it didn't extend enough (DT770). The Meze 99 extended just enough, but could have used one more click, and the ear cups were too small. For me, the right fit has been the Audio Technica ATH-AD700x (900x, 1000x). The wings allow for proper resting without the clamp down force of tight headbands for bigger and taller heads. If you have a small head, then it will droop down. This even happens to me and I have a large head. Because it rests on my ears comfortably and light as any headphones can get, I don't feel discomfort. There's zero clamping. And I just find it extremely challenging to find any headphones that are more comfortable. I've tried!
Awesome review...you know a lot about music. Awesome just awesome.
Great review. All the info I wanted and more
Have you tried the open back Ath-ad1000x or 2000x? If so how'd you like them? I'm looking for some nice open back cans for music and gaming (I primarily listen to Metal, Rap, and Alternative, and I play mostly fps or rpg games). I have been heavily been leaning towards the ad1000x's or the Fedelio x2, could you provide some guidance?
I just bought them and I must say you're more then right, the sound is so great AMAZING! Unbelievable enjoyable, rich and full bodied, and not just the treble but the bass as well feels full with a nice punch. Thanks so much for ur recommendation!
One question: Which replacement earpads would you recommend?
Glad you enjoy them as much as I do. I haven't tried any myself but I recommend against getting any of the pads for the open back AD series as they can change the sound drastically from what I've read. Apparently the Clarino pads used for the A1000X and A2000X are a good upgrade.
+metal571 Can U pls tell me where can I get those pads?
Btw forgot to mention they simply blown away my HFI-580 (going to sell them). Also - a very interesting fact with this cans - I can listen to them at high volume and it won't be too sharp to my ears because of its "creamy" sound, which means I can easily be taken over from my music at high volume in high moments..:) Super Fantastic! Thanks Again!!
Aroma Katz They're tough to find but you can get them on eBay here for example www.ebay.com/itm/AUDIO-TECHNICA-HP-A2000X-Earpads-for-ATH-A2000X-Replacement-Accessory-Headphones-/261999444495?hash=item3d0062420f
+metal571 You are so helpful. Thanks a million
I recently got the AD900X and I am one of those skinny-headed people you mentioned. They fit and sit quite fine for me, but they do have a fairly big weight difference from the closed backs that you're reviewing here.
A small work around for those with issues of these headphones slipping down is to unscrew the wings, and loop a hair-band around the arm (from underneath) to try to aid the clamping a bit or add a bit more support at the top of the head. A small and simple mod that doesn't damage the headphone.
AD900X has an unbraided cord and also the 3.5mm jack is rather unimpressive next to this. I feel a bit cheated at that.
Wow, interesting. I thought AT used that kind of cable and jack on all their higher end stuff. Yep, the hairband mod is a pretty good way to overcome the light clamp from the wings.
I was a bit disappointed that it was just a regular, plastic, un-threaded jack, even though the 6.3mm adapter has an internal thread. Still, it's a rather small gripe and certainly doesn't detract from the quality of the headphones.
They weigh only 265grams compared to the 330g of the A900X, so I haven't even needed to do that hair-band mod due the light construction, however it's an easy option if the need comes along.
To all who complain about the fit, that it's not tight enough and sound is leaking out. I would like to share what I did to fix that. I connected the two Wings of the headphone together (from above) with a rubber from "Goody ouchless" rubbers (their rubbers are surrounded with fabric so it wont scratch or stick to anything) and they hold together very nicely, not too much, just perfectly. Enjoy
+Katz yeah rubber bands holding the wings together is the classic trick
The A900X sounds amazingly similar to my studio monitor speakers which is exactly what I was looking for in a headphone. Now I can listen to superb quality sound without causing my neighbours any problems. Despite my neighbours house being detached from mine by over 50 feet , they can't hear my audio system but they complained that the bass travelling through the ground makes their house shake and vibrate.
Yeah as someone who has to deal with apartment life I don't have much of a choice but to use headphones. These are still my primary closed headphones and I use them at work
+metal571 I have recently discovered that Audio Technica have brought out improved versions of the 500X, 700X and 900X. They are now the 500Z, 700Z and 900Z. Will be interesting to find out what improvements they have achieved. Lastly, your reviews are technically superb. Please keep them coming.
Thanks much appreciated. For sure if I get some of those in for review I'll talk about them.
I've "had" these, and they did sound OK. They were a step above the A700X model I had a few years back. The reason I say "had", is because they broke. The hing is made of cheap plastic, and so I would note rank these as durable. My A700X cans broke in the same location, go figure. They did sound OK, but nothing spectacular. The bass on these was a bit reserved, but you are right, the mid range is were these shined. I did burn them in, and they did sound better after 20 or so hours of use. Sadly, they are not durable. I have decided I will not pursue a replacement of these. I'm going to buy some beyerdynamic DT-770 Pros ( 80ohm), Audio Technica ATH-M40X and a Pair of Sony MDR-7506. So far, the Sony's are bright and childish ( I like that ), the M40x's are a bit reserved and mature. There tonal quality is very nice and flat. I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50, and they are great for movies, but can be a little over bearing ( low end ) for detailed music listening. I like bass, but these are like having a mini sub on your head. For Hip-hop-R&B, Pop, they sound great, but for Classical, World, or New age, not really recommended!!! For Rock / Medal genre, its a toss up. The M50s are like the Sony 7506, but in the teenage years, with more low end and not quite as bright. To clarify, I like the M50's, but they are not for all "my" listening purposes. I'm still waiting on the 770 pro's in the mail, so I can't speak for them just yet.
Thanks a lot for the great review
Is it amp/dac dependent? If so, which amp/dac would you recommend for these headphones?
Would you say it's a decent upgrade from ATH M-50?
Thank you in advance.
Definitely an upgrade over the M50, definitely. I don't really own any serious DACs or amps right now, but I'm sure you can bring out the best in this with a Modi 2 and Magni 2.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Thank you for your reply! I think I will try these without amp first (I bought these two days ago) and if I think I need amp and dac I will consider getting modi 2 and magni 2
Peter Yi My sound quality review on here is straight out of motherboard audio. These are real good even unamped.
I couldn't figure out how to expand them for my big head. They were too tight unlike my old Audio Technica AD500s, which fit nice and loose. I had to return mine.
Excellent precise review, I have both the A900X and DT770 and love them too. Hard to beat for the price. The 770s are my daily users because of the comfort and I like the Beyer sound. I am trying to decide if I want to upgrade to either the T1 or LCD2, lots of coin..!
Those two are way different. LCD2 very smooth and T1 much brighter like a typical Beyer
Thank you for your opinion. Sounds like the T1 is for me, I like the forward sound. Seems like most of Headfi tend to agree too. Any comments if Audeze headphones are really worth the price compared to Senn/Beyer, do you really get that much more?
LCD2 2016 version is supposed to be really good. I wouldn't jump on the T1 until hearing it
I meant I like the semi forward Beyer sound :) Something like the LCD3, $1.5K more than DT770 is crazy to me. Welp, only way to find out is demo! Thanks, I really appreciate your opinion judging by your reviews.. subbed!
LCD2 is a lot cheaper and might be better at this point, not LCD3. Good luck
I have a small head and they work well with me. Idk why some people have so much trouble with them. Maybe they move around a lot? I definitely wouldn't recommend them for exercise or anything but that seems obvious. Great for sitting at the desk.
Great reviews very melo easy to watch. Appreciate it. Wanted to ask would you say the soundstage is comparable to some open backs? I need a closed can specifically for gaming and nothing else. I can't make up my mind because I want the best soundstage I can get for a closed back style. Any advice would help. Thanks
+lDWEllA take a look at my dt770 80 ohm review. That's probably the best soundstage I've found in a closed headphone
Good replacement for some aging ATH-A700's?
i bought the A900Z (not sure what's the difference with the X) but the difference between my current 990Z's and the ATH-A700X is a lot! i was not expecting to be so pleased!
Yeah all signs point to the 900X, 900Z, and 990Z being a solid step up over the classic A500 and A700
Great review, agreed completely on all points.
sky Thanks I still use these quite a bit whereas sometimes I've changed my mind in terms of personally liking or not on some of the other headphones I review here. These are difficult to hate IMO.
Nice review! I've never owned an Audio-Technica headphone, but I'll consider one whenever I make another headphone purchase. What headphone do you plan on reviewing next? Or is that perhaps a secret? :P
I still haven't talked about my HD595 modded HD555 or my PortaPro yet. The rest I've covered. I'm actually sending this guy back cause of the channel imbalance issue. It's pretty bad and I just don't want to take a chance on another one. Also compared to the DT770 it just lacks details because the treble is relaxed. I guess I've become a treble detail head of sorts. Still recommended though at this price, but I doubt people like you would find it exceptional ;) What I need next is a Schiit Magni 2, and then I plan on buying a TOTL by the end of the year. Probably the HD800 or T1.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Well yeah, I probably won't buy the AD900X, but I'd certainly like to hear it. :) From what I've heard and read, it's a great value for what it's going for ($144.95 currently on Amazon), and I think it's always great to have at least one mid-fi headphone in everyone's collection.
You mentioned that the volume from one of the Audio-Technica's earcups noticeably decreased. This piqued my interest because I've read accounts of STAX owners having this problem. One possible culprit is dust, so I've tried to always keep my SR-009 on a stand where the earcups are sealed. I think I'm even going to buy a dust cover to put on top of that just to be safe than sorry. I already noticed that the left earcup is just a hair louder (when I turn the volume all the way down on my amp and then turn it up very slowly), but it's unnoticeable at normal listening levels (I just hope it doesn't get worse). I know there are a host of other issues that can cause channel imbalance, I'm just curious if that's what happened in this case too.
Jacks Kelly With dynamic drivers I don't think that's usually what causes any issues, that's more of an estat thing having dust on the driver. In this case it was simply from the factory, mismatched in volume between the two drivers. Sometimes it can happen, but for some headphones it is just the way they are designed so I'm not really sure but according to other people with the A900X I might just have a faulty one. I've never heard this problem on any Sennheisers, AKGs, or Beyers, which tend to come with very well matched driver responses. Also BTW this is the closed back A900X not the AD900X, which is open.
metal571/Term1naLFurY Oh, my mistake, I meant the A900X. If you have to choose between getting either the HD800 or T1, I would choose the HD800 personally (having owned both), but they're both great.
Hi from México
Congrats. You do great reviews. I am watching an old video 😀 after watching your fostex TX X00 review.
Wich one of these 2 have the Best sound stage and bass for metal music, but at the same time great for jazz?
Thanks bro for you exelent reviews
Hello, thank you for the review! I am considering buying either these headphones or the Beyerdynamic COPs, however, I am not sure which ones to go for. Which headphones do you prefer for listening to music (I listen to a mixture of rock and electronica). Thanks!
That's a tough question. While I love the A900X, I haven't heard the COPs. But from what I've read either would be a great choice for music enjoyment. I listen to a mix of EDM and metal the A900X works perfectly for those genres. That, I can tell you.
+metal571 Thank you for the prompt reply!
brilliant review, man. how would rate the isolation? is it close to DT770 or much worse?
Thanks for the review! Would you say these are the widest-sounding closed backs in your collection?
That would go to the DT 770 which I still have
@@metal571 Thanks
Thanks for the review. I've been on the fence with these for a while. Would you say they're the best closed headphones for metal in a moderate price bracket - $300 and below? I'm looking for something with decent isolation that can also provide that airy guitar sound of opened cans. Ever come across good semi-open cans with some isolation that don't allow you to hear every single noise from your neighbors yard? Or is isolation simply a lost cause in anything other than a fully closed back?
In my experience anything semi-open is essentially 90 percent open back and leaks almost as much. If you want some slam to your bass check out my DT770/80 ohm review. The K550 is a very neutral option but is a bit rough with metal guitar distortion in the upper mids and the bass extends well but isn't strong. The A900X is more colored and has warm mids and not a ton of bass impact either, but its mids are never fatiguing with metal and guitars sound awesome on it. Take your pick, I got reviews on all 3.
+metal571 I still haven't decided. Was actually leaning towards the Beyer T70, but eh, I think it's probably overkill - too detailed and pristine for my purposes(metal/old jazz/gaming). The driver imbalance of the 900x keeps putting me off, as well as perhaps some minor veiling that I've seen described. Also I keep flipping between open or closed cans. Ultimately I'm trying to find something that has an aggressive guitar sound that is upfront, while not removing the mid presence of vocals like the m50 does. The 900x apparently is great with vocals, but maybe not always upfront with guitar, as you say guitar sometimes gets pushed back in the mix. Seems headphones are either relaxed/warm or hollow/bright for the most part.
***** HD 600 will do what you are looking for, or if you can't afford that the 598 or 558 has almost the same sound signature
+metal571 Prob would have to be the 598 as I'm not really looking to get an additional amp for the 600. The 598 can almost be said to be the open version of the 900x - 900x having more bass and 598 being more open and refined with similar sound signature? The drivers don't seem to match all that well on the graph of those either but I've never read any complaints about that for the 598. Seems it's just more noticeable on the 900x for some reason.
Nah they sound somewhat different now that I've been using them a while. A900X is smoother through the mids and still has a prominent spike at 10k. 598 has a more even response but rolls off the bass earlier
Do you still consider these as your favorite closed-back in around sub-$300 range ? Just bought dt770 80ohm based on your video and wonder if these ( intended for vocals, J-pop, and string OST ) would complement well with 770 ( using primarily for movie and anime now )
Right now I've been using the 380 a lot. But the A900X is a special sauce kind of headphone. Yes very different from the 770s so would be a good addition for you I think.
Sounds like you like a900x sound a bit more than hd380. Why the switch ? It's a little hard to get my hands on a900x. Any alternative in mind with similar signature ?
Comfort level which do you prefer ?(dt770 fits my head comfortably for long period of listening if that says anything.) Thanks a lot for the instantaneous response :-)
Chia Dai 380 is a bit more comfortable, larger pads but higher clamp. The only reason I use the 380 is that I really only use closed backs at work that have the highest isolation I can find, and the A900X only has average isolation. It leaks too much to really use where I do in an office with an officemate
It is always nice review.
This is more 3d sounding right? these are worst than ath msr7? can you record vocals with these? or they sound too 3d?
Are those headphones good for gaming? How is the soundstage? Should I get the Sennheiser 598 or the ATH-900x
do you also need an amp with those headphones?
+KairosSecond I would get the 598 because they definitely have a better soundstage
+metal571 which headphones are better for listening to music?
+KairosSecond I think both are good for music but the A900X is more fun to listen to, however it doesn't have the soundstage of the 598 that you need for first person shooter multiplayer
I would like to ask you for your opinion. I'm thinking about the ATH-A990Z and would like to ask if they sound the same as the A900X? Are the upgrade version of the ATH-A900X? Are they completely different headphones?
I ordered an ATH-A990Z from amazon and noticeably the left earphone plays louder than the right one. The seller said that this model is like that, while the website says that it is not possible. At 500Hz the difference is about 2-3dB, while at 1000Hz it reaches up to 5dB.
I'm afraid this is not a manufacturing defect of this model. Regards.
No a990z are dogshit
They do not sound the same. 990z is a downgrade to the 900x. Not surprised about the problem you're having with them. Audio-technica usually screws something up. I have the 990z here now. Can't wait to return them. They make me sick just looking at them. Maybe I will trade them in for a pair of beats.
I sincerely hope that the pair I might buy has a driver mis-match ... my application is digital piano, and this issue would over-emphasize either the high or low notes..... Is the cable detachable? Looks like it isn't. Great review!
Cable is not detachable. I still have my pair, it's a pretty special headphone
@@metal571 Thanks! I have AKG 271 Mk. ii for 11 years, totally shot but just ordered replacement parts. Looking for another closed can set for digital piano (Jazz) playing, recording (sax, piano) and mixing. Noisy surroundings. I have horrible TMJ (jaw joint) issues. Bought and returning BD DT 7709 Pro - 5 minutes was all my jaw could stand. My 271's don't hurt. Read somewhere that the A900X have higher clamping = bad for me. Considering Senn 598Cs; supposedly really low clamping. Don't really want a duplicate of my 271s; seeking variety. Any thoughts?
Do you think the ATH-A900X would be a good choice for podcast recording/editing?
Too colored. K553 would be better for that if you need a closed solution
This video made me decide to buy this headphone, and it's the first headphone that gave me the transparent feeling when listening to asian vocal songs.
Glad I noticed this vid. I have fit issue with my big head. These may work. Thx!
Question why do some of the 900x models look opened and some have a closed back ??
+Keith Scull because the A900X is closed and the AD900X is open. The AD models are open and A models are closed. They are different model numbers
AHH SHIT didn't even realize! Thanks buddy !
+Keith Scull yeah it's a common mistake. Don't get the idea that they sound similar either because the open and closed ones are very different as well
I usually like open cans, or at least I'm on the hunt for that. I have my closed can/bass monsters, I have M Audio Q 40, V Moda M 100, Sony XB 500 and Ultrasone Pro 900.. I recently have been craving open-back clarity inducing headphones. I started with the Grado SR80e as I got to test it out at a local audio store. I have to say I know this in your face sound is not for everyone, but I personally love it for most musics with traditional instruments. I try to EQ the highs down a bit as they can get a little harsh. My next cans will be another open-back. Debating between the Grado 325 i, since I seem to like the Grado sound, and the AT AD900x
+Keith Scull keep the Q701 in mind as it also has forward mids but super clear upper highs and an ultra wide soundstage... if you like flavor cans like the 80e it's also worth a listen
Hi! Is this headphone comparable to the k7xx since they are on the same price bracket?
+PacMac totally different sounds
Dear sir! I listen to music everyday , its one of the things that really makes me feel good (all genres from zappa to synthwave , to tribal jazz and pure heavy metal with some fat rap beats in the middle! lol ), but my understanding of the specifics of sound and headphones is very limited. the way you explain it tho , it makes me really understand what you are talking about, and that's very pleasing! My last headphones just broke, and I'm looking for a new pair. the way you talked about this ones, makes me really thing they are the ideal ""fit"" for me! I want a sound that is not very "histerical" , a "sweet" sound with good detail , that respects the original sound created by the artists, and since I also game (and that's very important for me too) , I want good directional input. This are the ideal "fit" for me , and not just the ideal fit , because I don't have a large head , my face is thin! Is there any headphones u recall that suit those parameters? this kind of sound and directional input, made for smaller heads? if u do , great! id u don't , great| its very pleasing to listen to you talking about sound, good job!
How would you compare this with the AKG K271 MK II? Particularly comfort with glasses.
Definitely better because the cups give your ears a lot more room in terms of depth. I wear glasses myself and haven't had an issue with any of the cans I've owned, but the 271 is hard for me to deal with over long periods without taking out the foam in front of the drivers to give my ears more room.
Does impedance affect how fast a headphone is? I’m thinking yes.
I'm researching cans for my metal-head brother. How are these for metal / rock?
They're not bad but I'd go with the DT770 80 ohm
metal571 Unfortunately, my brother will be using either an MSI laptop or an iPod, so no amping. So the DT770 32 ohm would work if they're still considered good. Thanks.
ExtremelyTastyBread that would be a tough decision. Probably M40x then.
You mean Audio Technica M40x?
ExtremelyTastyBread yep
Can you share your EQ for a900x please, would really appreciate it?
I love these headphones!
I just got this pair off amazon and I noticed the head pads for mine are alot smaller then the ones in this video... is that normal?
Smaller? Are you sure you didn't buy the AD900X, which is the open back version of this headphone? It's completely different. This is the closed version and since I have both, I can tell you that the AD900X has only thin square head pads. That's normal.
+metal571 Yeah they are the closed back for sure. I could take a picture but maybe its just my eyes deceiving me because the head pads just look thinner like the ad900x, but without the gaps of course.
I also got them used so maaaybe they we're replaced or something. Or again it could jsut be me being tricked.
Yeah could be used who knows lol. The pads aren't supposed to be that thick, just enough to have some give to the foam
thanks for the review.
The headphones are amazing but the cable is getting bad. What’s a good headphone replacements?
First off I want to thank you for your review, I have watched many of your video reviews and like them a lot, unfortunately I am not quite as satisfied with my headphone purchase, these Audio Technica ATH-A900x.
My issues are numerous and quite serious, really deal-breaking unfortunately as I was super excited and looking forward to getting these headphones and really, really wanted to like them, but I just don't.
1. It is definitely an issue, and I personally consider it very serious; the driver matching is terrible, my right earcup is significantly louder than the left. If I am going to pay $100+ on a pair of headphones this should not happen, it is simply unacceptable to me. I know it's an easy fix, and I did "fix" it on both my stereo amp and my computer, but again, this simply should not happen with a $100+ pair of audiophile headphones.
2. This might sound strange, but in spite of their lightweight build and supposedly light clamping force(according to all that I've read and heard), I find them physically uncomfortable because there is too much pressure on the side of my head. The wings work fine for me, I have no issue with them as the headphones don't slip off my head or anything, but the force around my ears is simply uncomfortable and not easily tolerated. And like you say, these cans are quite isolating, which while not a huge issue, I don't especially like.
3. Well, I could go on and on and on, but I'm not giving my own review here, just hoping someone could recommend something else.
I don't like the sound of these, I'd say they're maybe a bit fuller, but I personally don't find them much better than my Sony MDR V6s, which unfortunately broke recently, one side, as the wire got frayed, hence the purchase of these AT A900xs.
I don't have anything to compare these to(except my Sonys), but I don't hear an expansive soundstage at all, certainly nothing that extends much beyond the earcups. I also wish things were clearer, with greater instrumental separation and detail, more nuance and openness/airiness. Personally, I feel the sound of these are very homogeneous(obviously with different timbres of course) like a large mass/blob of sound, not necessarily bloated, but definitely not refined either. I don't think I would use the word lush to describe them, but that's me. I guess I'd say that I think I tend to prefer a "brighter" sound. I like the idea of a neutral monitor headphone that's "balanced" but I don't especially like laid back, but I don't want in your face and strident either. I don't know if this is an apt analogy, but while I certainly don't like someone yelling/screaming at me, I don't want to have to lean in to hear someone whispering either. I want someone to speak up, I guess speak forward, loudly and clearly, then I will be actively engaged in listening to them.
I listen mostly to classical music and am definitely not crazy about bass, but that's not to say that bass is not important to me, it is, but I'm okay with it being a bit understated and in the background. I guess it's most important that it not interfere with the rest of the sound/music, and be pretty quick and tonally accurate.
The reason I didn't go with the Sennheiser HD 600s is because, I didn't want to spend an extra $100, ie. over $200, $240+ for a pair of headphones, and I don't really like the idea of open headphones either. I want to be able to listen to my music privately without disturbing others.
So are there any suggestions that you can make, for a closed back headphone less than $200, meeting many of the criteria I laid out above?
And while I haven't heard them, I don't think I'm going to be a Beats guy, as I certainly don't give a darn about the marketing hype or popularity.
I suppose this may be an impossible task, but hopefully someone is up to the challenge.
Finally, again, this isn't personal, I really did like and appreciate your review Metal571, I watched the video numerous times actually, but I I just want to say how disappointed I am that these headphones are not all I've seen and heard them made out to be by so many people/online reviewers.
Oh I don't blame you, I never would have recommended something like this for classical. Yes, the channel imbalance is well known but isn't bad enough for me to be bothered by it since I enjoy the rest of the sound so much for the genres I tend to listen to. No, I don't have any recommendations under 200. SAVE up, and buy the HD 600. It is dead neutral and was specifically designed as a classical music reference headphone. That's what you want, as well as some source powerful enough to drive it like a headphone amp.
+metal571 Thanks!
I bought these after my DT770's died. My god they are frail. Not at all fatiguing. I was unable to pick which I liked better back when I had both. Cost me double than what you're paying though.
So I'm coming from M50's. I loved them, but I'm giving them to a buddy and I wanna try something different this time. I cant decide between these A900x, or Beyerdynamics DT-770 Pro 80. I dont want to be using any amps. I'll be using them on my phone(galaxy s5) and for desktop gaming. AD900x variant are also on the list. Thoughts? I've watched your video for the 770-80 and I'm still torn between them
A900X is easier to drive than the 770, and the AD900X open back is also easier to drive but sounds quite different than the A900X. Depends on if your priority is music or gaming. Also you definitely won't be able to use the AD900X in public as they are wide open
+metal571 Sound wise, which would you recommend, A900x's or DT770-80's? I listen to too many genres to say I need a headphone to specialize in one. Since I dont plan on using an amp(just inconvenient), would I still be able to enjoy the Dt770-80's. I hear mixed comments everywhere regarding not using an amp. Thank you for replying so quick haha
TalmidimAlex DT770 is more colored so I'd get the A900X and it's much easier to drive. Amps make almost no difference in sound quality most of the time unless your source is extremely bad. The 770 is not effortless to drive with simple sources like phones and motherboard audio
Hi! As always I like your review, nice and detailed! But now comes the part where I completely disagree with you.
Yesterday I auditioned the A990z, which supposed to be the upgrade of the A900x. If they bear any resemblance, than I think we are never gonna love the same headphones. It has this kind of hifi sound that I was moving away from the very first moment I heard the M50x. Its bass is sloppy and it is exaggerrated in the midbass region, but the lowpoint is really the missing upper midrange. Vocals - particulary female ones - sound distant and without definition, because everything is missing between 1k and 8k. I already know very precisely that this area is what you find fatiguing, so I understand why you like them. This is the area that is missing on the Momentum and to some extent on the M40x and the MDR-1A. And that is what made me buy the M50x instead of them. The treble is nice though, and it helps to bring back some sparkle. I have read that this is the area where they improved, and removed some sibilance (aka a 8-10k peak). It has this really awkward hifi V-shape, that just never really made me happy. And although I think it is a forgiving sound, and I can see why people prefer over the M50x-representation I always wonder why they call this kind of sound signature more neutral. Hell no! It is less neutral in every way. If you really want neutral in the mastering sense of the word, than stick with the Harman curve. And these are way further than the M50x!
Add to that the huge pads make it not really over ear, as they sit on the boundary of my ears, and I find it highly disturbing. The M50x pads are not big and comfy, but at least my ears fit in the hole.
Overall for me it is way behind the M50x in every sense. For the current price of the A900x (150$) I would say it could be good for some people, but even considering its sound signature I would go for the MDR-1A as it is more comfortable and portable. But for the asking price of the A990z (260$), no way I would buy it!
From what I've heard the A990Z is not supposed to be the same as this at all, much worse actually overall
metal571 That is totally possible, so take my words with a grain of salt. However I still feel from your review that I would have problem with the missing upper midrange. The problem is also there on the A1000x when you see Tyll's graphs. And the comfort also did not convince me. Anyway it is always worth trying something else.
It would be good if you could test the A990z, I am really curious about your oppinion about them.
Like night and day. These have a smooth V-shaped sound (quite strong bass and sprakling treble, but nice laid back in the middle), the MSR7 is upper mid forward (vocals are very much in your face, but bass is quite missing). The MSR7 is compact and portable, folds flat, and come with removable short cables and one with a mic. These are more home hifi headphones, bulky and the cables are attached. Comfortwise I prefer the MSR7, although they have a stronger clamping force. I dont like the form of the pads on these, they are just not big enough to squeeze my ears inside - which is odd consindering the huge housing. I dont have that issue with the MSR7.
Anyway they are built for different purposes. Both of them are good in their categories.
A900X much smoother. MSR7 is lean and bright
I'm not listening to lots of music but I do watch lots of movies and those are action packed. So you can guess I'm in love with sound effect. I was just one step away from buying M50X till I have seen your review. I was actually considering between M50X, V-moda 100, DT770 Pro. Would you please suggest me a good headphone for my movie experience in that price range.
+نور العالم 770 80 ohm
+metal571 Thanks man for the prompt response. Keep it up. 👍
Seems like these are discontinued :( I've been looking around for a pair and there are some used ones for between $180 and $240. Think that is worth it? What about the ATH-A900Z or the 1000Z? Have you tried those?
The 900Z or 990Z is very similar, perhaps a bit warmer according to people who have heard it. I still wouldn't pay much more than 150. 180 is not too bad. The 1000Z could be very different, especially with fit since the 1000 and 2000 series models don't have hinged ear cups.
@@metal571 Could you publish your eq settings on these?
btw, how would you compare these with q701?
Not as detailed, not as large a soundstage, more bass, less fatiguing low treble, slightly more recessed mids, not as comfortable
Any difference between msr7 vs a900x? Can't decide between these two
Lots of difference, depends on the sound you're looking for
+metal571 more on classical, jazz and female vocal
I would go with the A900X then as the MSR7 can be a bit too bright and lacks midrange warmth
+metal571 Thanks for the advice! Was abit skeptical as a900x didn't get recommended that much but I will give it a try :)
Big Boss Yeah it's kind of a hidden gem but I'm trying to popularize it as it sounds excellent for its price range
I've got the limited edition of these particular cans. I don't know what to think about them actually. It feels like there's something missing.
I've got a pre-amp inbetween my macbook/pc/audio-source in general and the headphones even though it's only 80Ohm impandance, but that doesn't really fix the problem. It feels like there's a thin piece of paper inbetween the cans and my ears. Like everything is a bit in the background instead of sparkly and clear.
+TAO9's Labratory And compared to the AKG 612K pro the treble is def fatigueing
Are these way better than the m50x's?
+Luke Rideout Definitely, closer to neutral and much less closed in sounding
does it eq well? i remember listening to them and them motherfuckers are darker than LCDs
So im very new to quality headphones but ive been doing some research and ath a900x vs dt 770 seems to be a very common topic and i was wondering if either preform well on an iphone 6. i have a hp laptop capable of gaming if they dont but i was hoping to just be pointed in the right direction
also, if you dont mind, could you provide a rating on portability and size. thanks
+Harpyjack both are enormous and have cables too long for them to be portable. The 770 is harder to drive to loud levels but depends on how loud you listen. The A900X is a better bet for getting loud from most sources but also sounds totally different.
in that case is there a smaller equivalent you could recommend?
I honestly don't know a lot about portable stuff. Us audiophiles tend to focus mostly on large over ear headphones that only work well from home sources. Maybe a K545? Should sound about the same as the 553
thanks those look nice and really love the style of the whites, they look pretty well rounded and good for vocals too. i appreciate the help :)
dang it i hope my order goes through *fingers crossed*
I've got the a900s from about 5 years back. Right side has stopped working so am in the market for a new pair of headphones. Lots of options. Not sure if I want these a900xs, the limited edition of these (an extra $50), the 598s from sennheiser, or this new z range ive never seen, the 990z?
Are the 990z the upgraded version of the a900x? $309 AUD is quite steep but I love my current a900s theyve been great...So I guess the question is 990z vs 598s?
+Paul Spiccia have not tried the new AT and the 598 sounds like an HD 600 but slightly less refined
Don't buy the z model. They are too bass heavy. Just buy beats. The z model is a downgrade.
Recently I compared it with m50x, DT700 pro x, DT177x go.
I thinks A900X has the widest soundstage. DT177x has the deepest bass but narrower soundstage. DT700 has wider soundstage than DT177x, but similar bass as A900x. M50x is not at the same level as these 3. So I sold it.
Overall, A900X is very good among these 3, maybe the best all arounder. But one thing might be the deal breaker, is that DT700 and DT177x use Beyerdynamic Tesla technology, which is much easier to drive although the have 48ohm and 32 ohm respectively, they are noticably louder than A900x. If you use mobile or laptop without amp a lot, go for Beyerdynamic. But these two are more expensive.
Never thought to compare all of those, but I still have the A900X and DT 770 80 ohm and use the latter mostly because of the super comfortable velour pads
@@metal571 I used DT770 32 ohm for around 7 years. Great one. I changed pads on A900X, otherwise DT770 is more comfortable
Do you have an opinion on the ATH-MSR7s?
I own HD600 and K551 (quite flat cans) and I’m looking for a more musical pair to complete my collection. Headphones with thight and punchy bass, amazing mids, airy treble and wide soundstage... Something bringing emotion from the music... I’ve heard good things about Grado SR325e and ATH-Axxx series, but what would be your top pick(s)?
+Dominic Boucher can't stand Grados, the mids are anything but smooth and there's no sub bass. A 250 ohm DT770 has very punchy bass, a wide stage, and quite bright and lively highs with lots of extension if you want to give that a try.
Thanks, I should probably give them a try (I always be afraid of Beyer's piercing highs...). Do you think A900x will be too warm and relax considering that I'm used to listen to HD600/K551? Do you think K712 or Q701 may worth a try in terms of "musicality increase" from my actual cans?
I'm also looking for great midrange headphones. I'm afraid that DT770 doesn't have the kind of midrange I'm looking for...
+Dominic Boucher idk about musicality with the open AKGs. They are still not very bassy and have somewhat aggressive weird midrange coloration. Totally depends on what you listen to
+Dominic Boucher DT770 midrange is very uncolored, it's just a bit buried behind the bass and treble peaks
I have owned these for over two years and I never even considered these having driver mismatching. LOL. But I dont think they do.
How do thy sound for gaming?
I would get a K553 instead - larger soundstage
are they honestly just as good tho. Have you tried them
Haven't tried the 990Z personally but it's basically the same headphone with slightly different pads that make it a bit warmer, says people I trust
i am looking at buying my first pair of quality headphones and these are currently $185 (aud) which are cheaper than the m50x's. I listen to metal core/ post hardcore and also listen to alot of edm. I was wandering since i dont have the chance to audition any headphones, if buying the a900x's wouls be a good purchase or should i look elsewhere
Perfect for that, go for it
Hey metal my a900x just stopped working in one ear :( i now need to find a replacement what would you reccomend i get i still listen to metal music i was thinking of the byerdynamic dt 770s but really not sure i want to see what you think because i loved these and i dont want to get anything worse as a replacement
+Shakarone there's really nothing else like it out there. Could upgrade to the A990Z or try to RMA the A900X if it's under warranty
How do these stand up in 2022. Wanting to pair these with a ifi zen dac V2 or Schiit hel 2. Hoping in a year or Two to mod it with the removal cable. Will be trying the open back version with PC games, music, and record collection from 60s-80s
Completely, entirely different from the open back, which is thin and aggressively bright, if you mean the AD900X instead of the A900X
@@metal571 it's on sale for $150 on Amazon. And I'm mostly eager to listen to my Final Fantasy 7 remake vinyls.
@@metal571 I've also wondered if they will be a big improvement to just try and double the amount for sundara. I heard some other videos say certain size ears/heads sit weird with the sundaras.
Huge improvement with Sundara without a doubt
@@metal571 comfort is a factor. Wish I had a local place to test drive fit, so I don't have to pay or spent time with S&H
my a900x broke and i need new i was wondering if Audio-Technica ATH-AG1X or the 990z are similar. I need them for gaming/movies/music
990Z
I'm on a quest for closed-back headphones that are as comfortable as my Astro A40 headset. The ear cups on these A900X's look pretty large. I don't want my ears to touch the driver fabric. Would this be a contender for what I'm looking for?
Your ears will definitely touch the fabric, but the fabric on these is very soft and the drivers are way back in the earcups, and angled. So your ears never rub against anything except a very thin fabric. If you're looking for ultra comfortable closed-backs I recommend the DT770. I have a review on that as well.
Ah yes. I've been eyeballing the DT770 as well. (The 32 ohm version.) Drivers deep in the cups is what I'm looking for. So the DT770s are deeper than these Audio Technicas? I'll watch your review for them right now.
watts300 well the pads are a lot deeper.
M50X are NOT for listening to music or gaming, but nobody cares, they still buy headphones for the wrong reasons.
Also, A900X are $450-$500 in my country and that means I will never buy.
Maybe MSR7 is a better option for $250.
+GraveNoX yeah I got lucky with the A900X, they were 150 over here in the US before being discontinued on Amazon so now are only available for import and have shot up in price considerably. I wouldn't pay much more than 150 for them.
Do you think this is a better buy then a AKG 550?
+jd gaming Nah. Just a different flavor of a headphone.
Yeah i was wanting to get a pair today just not sure what is better for me been reading for a while and posted in a avs forum with no luck, i'd like to get the best neutral sounding closed headphones i can with a very open sound stage. I found only 3 i think the 770, K550, and these.
Could you give me some quick help?
***** 770 is super colored, A900X is also a flavor headphone, and the K550 is quite neutral but I didn't find its soundstage expansive. No closed headphone will be able to match the stage of an open back, but the K550 at least doesn't sound as in your head as an M50
nice thanks
So i guess i'll be ordering the AKG's then
Hello. I think I'd like to pull the trigger on these now but I have some reservations. So, I hope you can address these issues.
1. You're not the only person who has complained about one of the drivers being louder than the other. I can, at least, remember reading two such complaints on head-fi. Do you think that's something to worry about ?
2. The con that most people list for these headphones is the wing support design. They claim that it's only suited for those with large heads. Now, its difficult to know what constitutes a large head. If these cans can properly rest on your head, it means that they will properly rest on my head if the circumference of my head is equal to or larger than that of yours. The problem is I can't discern from the video the circumference of your head. Mine is 59cm. I know this sounds ridiculous, would you mind reporting yours ?
3. Where can I buy these ? I heard they went for $150 in the past. I wouldn't mind buying refurbished.
Thanks.
+medwatt I would get a pair from Amazon, that way you can always easily return them if you don't like them. The wing supports work for me but I know others with smaller heads that don't have much of an issue. As far as the channel imbalance, yeah, that's definitely a thing, but is easily fixable by either using the Windows balance controls or an EQ program. It's about 0.5-1 dB off so nothing major, but noticeable.
metal571 I don't think you can buy them from Amazon; only from 3rd party sellers from Japan meaning returning things will require quite an effort.
+medwatt I guess I got lucky cause when I bought my pair, the US version was still available with prime and everything.
metal571 I know. It was also on buydig. Now, only the open version of these cans are available with prime. Its a bit risky buying from a seller in Japan and its also a little more expensive. Given the state of the Japanese Yen, shouldn't the price have gone lower ?
medwatt maybe the fact that they're "discontinued" in the US has driven up the price. Looks like the A700X is still available on prime though. It should be somewhat similar as I have the A500X as well and it has a very similar sound as the 900 just not as refined. But I couldn't tell you for sure how the 700 sounds.
I saw that you use the ATH-A900X + E10k at work and at home Schiit Modi 1 + Magni 2. Would you say that it's worth upgrading my E10k to a Modi 2 Uber, if we're talking just about the DAC and line out capabilities? I just use the E10k as a DAC for the moment. I will mention that i did test the E10k vs Fiio X5, X5 mk2 and can't hear any difference on Sennheiser Momentum M2 over the ear and my stereo sistem wich is pretty good. The speakers are 3 way DIY's and i have put them in some A/B tests with commercial ones, and are in the 3-4k area sound wise. Love to hear your opinion as i like your view on things. Keep it up!
+Ionescu George Alexandru Magni 2 Uber will give you much more power for higher impedance headphones. I don't think it's worth it if your headphones are already getting loud enough though
+metal571 You got things confused. I am talking about Modi, the DAC, not Magni, the amp. I am interested in a DAC upgrade.
Ionescu George Alexandru oh definitely, definitely not worth it lol. DACs make extremely subtle differences, if at all
+metal571 Glad to know i'm not the only crazy person that doesn't hear those "huge" improvements dac's make. Even my HTC M8 sounds great.
+Ionescu George Alexandru lol even my HD 600 sounds great from just about anything. I will never understand the level of perfectionism that plagues the likes of Head-Fi
Better than m50x?
+Teemo4Life of course
Hey, how would you eq those?
Hey metal571/Term1naLFurY I know you know your audio and I wanted your opinion on some headphones. I found someone selling sennheiser HD 598 for $150, is it a good buy? How do they sound? Do I need a dedicated sound card to use them? If not my motherboard supports 7.1 audio.
Well, they're going for 150 right now new on Amazon, so might as well get them brand new. It's a good price for the quality they deliver, yes. You won't need a dedicated sound card, but most motherboards don't support virtual surround effects like Dolby Headphone if that's what you want to use with them. They're very low impedance so will run just fine with onboard sound. Their sound is pretty flat, with a slight edge in the upper mids, decent treble detail, and good but not excellent bass extension. I've heard them once. A good all around headphone that can be used for gaming or music alike.
metal571/Term1naLFurY haha yeah I just now looked on amazon. Do they have any bass at all? I'm more of a bass head than treble.
DarkZennen they do but it's a pretty neutral bass. Open headphones are seldom to never bass heavy. That's for fun closed back headphones. If you really must have your bass but also a soundstage, get a DT770.
metal571/Term1naLFurY so with dt770 could i hear someone trying to sneak up on me in battlefield or say hear gun fire from a mile a way? since i wont be able to afford an amp for a while, probably until next year which ones should i get 80 ohm or the 250 ohm?
The problem is, it's better to get a headphone that's more flat for hearing details like that. Bassy headphones like the 770 can obscure fine details at times. They do also need a decent amount of power. The 32 ohm is what I would recommend as that one has less of a bass boost than the 80 ohm which has the most boost.
Have you heard the open back versions of these?
Yes I have the AD900X. Very different headphone. Still have to review them
HI. How do you compare AD900X to AKG 712, that you have reviewed recently? I mostly listen to soft/mellow rock, classical, a bit of pop. What would you recommend?
waiting for your review on AD900X :)
If you had to choose between ath a900x and DT770 Pro 80ohm, fast would you choose and Why? By the way, Big videos!
Both, and I'm serious. The A900X is way more laid back and much better for loud listening and just enjoyment in general, whereas the DT770 is a V shaped monster bass headphone with a shining treble. It depends on the genre. If I had to pick only one, it would be the DT770 for comfort reasons though.
I have an AKG K550 coming in tomorrow so expect a review on that one as well soon.
metal571/Term1naLFurY
I appreciate your feedback!
metal571/Term1naLFurY I have a FiiO x1 and Sennheiser Momentum On Ear . Soon get an headphone amp and I plan to buy a headphone for home use but closed back type because I need a decent bass response for my music . My musical tastes are varied, alternative rock, hard rock, heavy metal, guitar instrumental , pop , hip hop, smooth jazz , funky , chill out , house and techno.
juan luis Quiroz guevara DT770 will cover all genres but will always have a bassy response. If you're gonna get an amp setup like a Magni 2 and Modi 2, get the 250 ohm DT770 which will be easily driven by that.
metal571 Which one is better for gaming?
Do this headphone isolate noise well?
+Vincentius Snow It's not bad at it but it's not quite as good as a studio monitor type "pro" headphone though
I noticed I listen to a lot of the same music I also listen to a lot of melodic Punk bands like Pennywise, Bad Religion as well as Heavier stuff like Beartooth, Lionheart,Faith No More, etc but I also like my 80s classics like The Cars and Tom Petty etc lol....My question is what 2 or 3 headphones would you recommend for a great sound for rock,metal,punk etc with nothing over the 300 dollar range....would appreciate any suggestions and thanks.
Closed back or open?
either...Suggestions for both would be fine I have amps to push them
Which ever would give the music a great sound and drive
What are you looking for, flat, a little extra bass, treble? What headphones have you had before and what did you like about them? Since sound is so relative, that would help.
im actually now just getting into better sound......I have played music for a long time and have opened for Misfits etc but at that point a simple cheap headset done the job and DRI or Dead Kennedys was good lol.....But here lately I have got my hands on Audio Technica ATH M50X's and like them but wanted to see if I would be able to find something a little better. I am wanted a well rounded sound to where it is crisp but still yet has a punch on a good breakdown but when i mean punch i dont mean like a over bearing sloppy bass sound you would get from a pair of beats....I mean like a nice thump but meaningful. I want my highhats to stand out and the snares to ring...I jsut want a ALL AROUND solid ass heatphone that works great with all rock etc but yet is nice enough for something on the range of Oingo Boingo or Gary Newman lol......If all my rambling made since to you lol...Sorry its harder for me to get what I mean when I am just getting into this.
You said you would put these up there with DT770?? how is the bass compared to DT770? Im now interested in these especially since its low ohms so I dont have to spend extra money on amp/dac.. But yeah you said mids and highs were good and my only questions how are the bass on these compare to DT770.. Thanx
Bass response is passable. I EQ it up myself since it isn't as strong as the 770 but the mids and highs are better to me
Do you think I will be satisfied overall with bass and everything with the genres of music I listen to? I been really trying to find how is the bass on these? btw have you ever used Bose QC15?
Works for me. And yeah definitely more refined than the 15
haha so question now DT770s vs A900x lol.. maybe ill get A900x and get amp with a bass booster ? Also what about AD900x? I heard they are even better when it comes to bass and quality?
LifeGiven Nah those have less since they're open backs. Get the E10K and the A900X, it has a bass boost and works well with them
I buy it today!!
These headphones are exactly what I'm looking for, the perfect sound signature, look, everything. I need a second headphone ( closed ) beside my k 702 so I looked up a lot of stuff and couldnt find anything like that. So I'm about to buy them but it troubles me that the price is now up to 210€, and I wonder if I can buy something better for the same price range, maybe you can help me. I want one like that and nothing else.
I think that's what the ATH-A990Z is but it's 279,00 € in my country, and that's a little too much.
Just be aware that these are way different than the 702. I find them a little bass light without EQ now but the mids are super smooth and relaxed. There is a prominent 10k spike actually that I probably didn't understand at the time I filmed this. Still syrupy mids and enjoyable for sure. I don't know of any headphone that gives the same kind of audiophile Audio-Technica sound, which is a "romantic" Japanese signature.
Yes I know that they are different from the k 702 and it's the main reason why I want another one hahaha.
I'm just confused to see that it was cheaper before, and if putting an extra 60€ would be worth ( or getting something better at the same price).
Just checked and it's
Réponse en fréquence : 5 Hz à 40 kHz
Puissance admissible : 2000 mW
Sensibilité : 100 dB /mW
Impédance : 42 Ohms
vs
Réponse en Fréquences : 5 - 42 000 Hz
Puissance admissible : 2000 mW
Sensibilité : 100 dB/mW
Impédance : 44 Ohms
( hope the french doesn't bother you.)
It doesn't, but those specs mean nothing and you should never look at them. Unfortunately I don't think anyone has actually made frequency response and CSD graphs for the 990.
I think that I'll just go for the one you reviewed here.
I could reduce the costs and go for ath-a550z at 160€ which is pretty cheap, but 220€ seems like the sweet spot.
I just was affraid of it being too old, but when you look at the K 702 that kind of concern is bullshit :D.
It really is weird though.
There are like 6/7 headphones, in a similar price range, and with almost the same specs.
there are ath-A, ath-AX, and ath-aZ, with the 500, 700, and 900 series.
Are these pretty much the ATH-A990Z?
+匚尺ㄚㄗ匕工Ｋ乙 extremely similar from what I've heard
those wings are awful, best is leather strap, and that damn cable is also shit, I believe that sound is good but overall Audio technica make same mistakes maybe it is to lower the price, probably