I’m getting my undergrad in philosophy and I have ADHD. This was very helpful. Naturally the dialogues are easier to read than other texts in general, but having this audio saved me a lot of time and helped me focus.
Thats awesome Clayton! I find having the audio and text together is the best and most intense way of focussing on the dialogues. Its super clear if you have lost attention and you can rewind and go back a bit. Happy to hear that this had helped you in your studies. :)
Clayton, if you can read and understand Plato, even you have to read 100 times, you don't have ADHD. Majority of people can't understand Plato in depth. Those are much worse than ADHD problem. Paideia Society
I was doing my undergrad in Philosophy and I too suffer from ADHD, but after a semester in it, I decided to switch my major to Psychology and my minor to Philosophy.
0:05 Introductory Dialogue 15:25 The Speech of Phaedrus 21:12 The Speech of Pausanias 37:27 The Speech of Eryximachus 47:36 The Speech of Aristophanes 1:03:09 The Speech of Agathon 1:15:48 Socrates Questions Agathon 1:21:49 Diotima Questions Socrates 1:26:21 The Speech of Diotima 1:51:43 Alcibiades' Entrance 1:59:59 The Speech of Alcibiades 2:20:53 Final Dialogue
I just wanted to say how much my family appreciates your audiobooks! They are among the most engaging and charming we have ever found, and we have them in our listening rotation two or three times each week. Your work is a wonderful gift.
I am very pleased to hear that you and your family enjoy the readings. Did you know about my other channel, Book Club where I am more active and have a huge library of readings? Here is the link: youtube.com/@bookclub5291?si=SpMrNgVeHj8au5PT Enjoy 😊🙏
I teared up at Alcibiades speech. He's just so hapless and genuine. Like everybody else gives these ordered, almost rehearsed orations (to the point where their overly pure ideals of love almost seem fake) then he brashly tumbles in and spills his guts about how much pain he's in because Socrates doesn't love him back. Its just kinda moving. Like it is beautiful, sad and funny.
Many thanks to Mr. Lewis Kirt for posting these Plato's classical Dialogue. This is a treasure of teaching far beyond than many could imagine, a lifetime study and training for humanity and many others. Paideia Society
1:55 Setting of Socrates' dialogue on love 3:08 Apollodorus throwing shade on businessmen 15:25 Phaedrus initial speech about love: What is love? (Baby don't hurt me) 17:22 Phaedrus explains why a city/army of men who love one another would be the most powerful (they share shame/pride in one another) 21:20 Phaedrus states that love gets the highest honor 22:28 Common vs Heavenly love-- everything is either noble or shameful (including love). Depends on how it is performed 26:38 Athens and Sparta have simple understandings of the complex idea of love. Elis and Boeotia are inarticulate and lust-driven. Iona and the Persian Empire ban Love, Sport, and Philosophy bc they are tyrannical states. This weakens the citizens (27:47) 31:12 Love is not inherently good/bad but depends solely on the behavior in its reaction 33:29 Honorable love is the only acceptable way of love, for the sake of wisdom and virtue 37:33 Eryximachus takes Aristophanes’ turn bc he has the hiccups lol 38:00 According to Eryximachus’ study of science, love is a diety that occurs in all forms of life, including plants and the Gods. Not just humans. 43:34 Synopsis of Eryximachus' speech: Love is the harmony from balancing good and bad, or opposites. Similar to yin and yang. 48:25 Aristophanes begins his speech, explaining that there was a 3rd gender, which was a combo of male and female (androgynous) 53:03 According to Aristophanes, humans reproduce with one another because our love derives from us wanting to be in our natural state, combined together. The womb, genitals, navel, etc are all reminders of our separation which was a punishment by Zeus 58:06 Love is our pursuit to be whole/complete with someone else 1:03:20 Agathon begins his speech 1:06:25 Love is the youngest/most energetic of the Gods. It also is the most powerful, over-powering pleasures and passions, which makes it moderate 1:11:00 Agathon views love like Christians view Jesus, a "savior". Source of all positive and drains negativity 1:20:02 Socrates proves that love can't always be good and beautiful because it is what it desires 1:21:50 Socrates begins his speech which is one he heard from Diotima 1:23:00 Philosopher's mean 1:29:02 Explanation of the lovers of wisdom* 1:33:04 According to Diotima- Love is the desire to possess anything good. Not just a companion but sport, philosophy, etc 1:36:52 Love is eternal. It is the reproduction (pregnancy) of desiring beautiful/good. This is the immortality of mortal things 1:41:58 *Important monologue* Diotima explains the differences of pregnancy in body vs. soul 1:52:50 The correct way to show up to a party 😂 2:00:00 Alcibiades begins his speech- a praise (and critique) of Socrates
Hello, I am currently doing research on Aphrodite nd Eros. The Symposium is a necessary stop along the way. However, I've always struggled with classical writing. Thank you so much for the pace that you set for the reading 🤝 has helped me a bunch.
starting my For the love of wisdom class next week and listening to this is going to be gruesome! Taking the clas because I have to....keep me in yor prayers!
I remember going to school in West London with kids who would speak weLL like that with the double L sounds. It's nice to hear local accents sometimes.
You are most welcome. Just to let you know, we will begin a study of Plato’s Republic over on my other channel Book Club today. Here is the link: th-cam.com/channels/9L6KBc0AKe2mL5Yli0AtyQ.html
This is excellent. I am a PhD student in London, working on Plato at the moment, and finding these very useful. Thank you. Do you plan on recording the Laches and Alcibiades Part II with accompanying texts as well? It will be very helpful.
Hey, happy to hear that you are finding the Platonic dialogues helpful! I do plan to get round to all of the dialogues at some stage. Thanks for the comment, and good luck in your studies!
Your welcome. I feel that even for people with English as a first language, having the audio and text together is the best way to take in the information.
Thank you for making these. I listened to your theaetetus, sophist and statesman. I'm going back through several of Plato's works and audio with text is great. how many of these are you planing on making? are you planing on doing Parmenides?
I haven't tackled the Parmenides myself yet, and will be leaving that till last, but yes, I will be doing more. Philebus is coming next. I'm really glad you find them valuable. Thanks for letting me know.
There are 49 pages in the dialogue Symposium. But the text is very small and compacted. It's quite a long dialogue, so maybe you could try breaking down into manageable chunks, say 30/40 minutes.
33:32 that is subjugation for the sake of virtue 184c I’m just making bookmarks to help me finish reading the book. I’m learning this passage in my university. Thank you for your great recital. Gracias, merci, adios.
You should check out the bock saga...you are in for quite the shock if you ever leave the US.....there is a ton of shit about young boys in here, think elecromagnetically.....think of young or fresh as potent and pure. A literal interpretation sells it short.
Not all of platos works are authentic. There’s some corruption and people have added stuff in that isn’t authentic and the word of Socrates. It’s like any document that over 2000 years old. It’s not entirely authentic most of is but they’re a defiantly some corruption.
Athenians had a different conception of love, and homosexuality in the way that it is currently conceived (being an identity)would not be socially acceptable. They were certainly pederasts, but to them it was, in addition to a sexual relationship, a way of tutoring a young man, as the older man took the boy under his wing and trained him in the various duties and arts of civic duty and warfare. As far as historical accounts go this wasn't apparently a universal thing, but a phenomenon that was mainly prolific in Athens. Though in time, considering that Athens was a central focal point of Greek culture, the practice spread.
I’m getting my undergrad in philosophy and I have ADHD. This was very helpful. Naturally the dialogues are easier to read than other texts in general, but having this audio saved me a lot of time and helped me focus.
Thats awesome Clayton! I find having the audio and text together is the best and most intense way of focussing on the dialogues. Its super clear if you have lost attention and you can rewind and go back a bit. Happy to hear that this had helped you in your studies. :)
glad to see im not the only ADHDer that simply cant stand to read a book on its own! :D
Clayton, if you can read and understand Plato, even you have to read 100 times, you don't have ADHD. Majority of people can't understand Plato in depth. Those are much worse than ADHD problem. Paideia Society
I was doing my undergrad in Philosophy and I too suffer from ADHD, but after a semester in it, I decided to switch my major to Psychology and my minor to Philosophy.
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0:05 Introductory Dialogue
15:25 The Speech of Phaedrus
21:12 The Speech of Pausanias
37:27 The Speech of Eryximachus
47:36 The Speech of Aristophanes
1:03:09 The Speech of Agathon
1:15:48 Socrates Questions Agathon
1:21:49 Diotima Questions Socrates
1:26:21 The Speech of Diotima
1:51:43 Alcibiades' Entrance
1:59:59 The Speech of Alcibiades
2:20:53 Final Dialogue
Thanks. Great time stamps 👍
I just wanted to say how much my family appreciates your audiobooks! They are among the most engaging and charming we have ever found, and we have them in our listening rotation two or three times each week. Your work is a wonderful gift.
I am very pleased to hear that you and your family enjoy the readings. Did you know about my other channel, Book Club where I am more active and have a huge library of readings? Here is the link:
youtube.com/@bookclub5291?si=SpMrNgVeHj8au5PT
Enjoy 😊🙏
I teared up at Alcibiades speech. He's just so hapless and genuine. Like everybody else gives these ordered, almost rehearsed orations (to the point where their overly pure ideals of love almost seem fake) then he brashly tumbles in and spills his guts about how much pain he's in because Socrates doesn't love him back. Its just kinda moving. Like it is beautiful, sad and funny.
Many thanks to Mr. Lewis Kirt for posting these Plato's classical Dialogue. This is a treasure of teaching far beyond than many could imagine, a lifetime study and training for humanity and many others. Paideia Society
1:55 Setting of Socrates' dialogue on love
3:08 Apollodorus throwing shade on businessmen
15:25 Phaedrus initial speech about love: What is love? (Baby don't hurt me)
17:22 Phaedrus explains why a city/army of men who love one another would be the most powerful (they share shame/pride in one another)
21:20 Phaedrus states that love gets the highest honor
22:28 Common vs Heavenly love-- everything is either noble or shameful (including love). Depends on how it is performed
26:38 Athens and Sparta have simple understandings of the complex idea of love. Elis and Boeotia are inarticulate and lust-driven.
Iona and the Persian Empire ban Love, Sport, and Philosophy bc they are tyrannical states. This weakens the citizens (27:47)
31:12 Love is not inherently good/bad but depends solely on the behavior in its reaction
33:29 Honorable love is the only acceptable way of love, for the sake of wisdom and virtue
37:33 Eryximachus takes Aristophanes’ turn bc he has the hiccups lol
38:00 According to Eryximachus’ study of science, love is a diety that occurs in all forms of life, including plants and the Gods. Not just humans.
43:34 Synopsis of Eryximachus' speech: Love is the harmony from balancing good and bad, or opposites. Similar to yin and yang.
48:25 Aristophanes begins his speech, explaining that there was a 3rd gender, which was a combo of male and female (androgynous)
53:03 According to Aristophanes, humans reproduce with one another because our love derives from us wanting to be in our natural state, combined together. The womb, genitals, navel, etc are all reminders of our separation which was a punishment by Zeus
58:06 Love is our pursuit to be whole/complete with someone else
1:03:20 Agathon begins his speech
1:06:25 Love is the youngest/most energetic of the Gods. It also is the most powerful, over-powering pleasures and passions, which makes it moderate
1:11:00 Agathon views love like Christians view Jesus, a "savior". Source of all positive and drains negativity
1:20:02 Socrates proves that love can't always be good and beautiful because it is what it desires
1:21:50 Socrates begins his speech which is one he heard from Diotima
1:23:00 Philosopher's mean
1:29:02 Explanation of the lovers of wisdom*
1:33:04 According to Diotima- Love is the desire to possess anything good. Not just a companion but sport, philosophy, etc
1:36:52 Love is eternal. It is the reproduction (pregnancy) of desiring beautiful/good. This is the immortality of mortal things
1:41:58 *Important monologue* Diotima explains the differences of pregnancy in body vs. soul
1:52:50 The correct way to show up to a party 😂
2:00:00 Alcibiades begins his speech- a praise (and critique) of Socrates
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James you absolute legend!
1st audio book that was beautiful to hear .✨️✨️
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
I can feel how passionate you are as you read. Thank you for your devotion
You’re welcome. I’m glad it comes through. 😀
Wow, just discovered this, I’m blown away. No wonder these are classics.
Enjoy working your way through all of the dialogues on the channel in the Plato playlist 👍
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Enjoy 👍
I can’t help being a fan of the Alexander and Paul translation, and I can’t help but commend your reading of my most favorite plato. Thank you
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Glad you enjoyed the reading.
Hello, I am currently doing research on Aphrodite nd Eros. The Symposium is a necessary stop along the way. However, I've always struggled with classical writing. Thank you so much for the pace that you set for the reading 🤝 has helped me a bunch.
Happy to help! Glad you found it valuable. Can you say more about your research ? It sounds most interesting!
You just saved me on assignment I had to do thank you omg I was last minute on my assignment and didn’t have the book thank you 🙏🏻
You are welcome. Happy to help.
Good luck with your philosophy studies, and I’m always here if you want to discuss. 🙏
starting my For the love of wisdom class next week and listening to this is going to be gruesome! Taking the clas because I have to....keep me in yor prayers!
God bless you for making this!
Thanks!!
God bless you for watching it! You're very welcome. 🙏
I remember going to school in West London with kids who would speak weLL like that with the double L sounds. It's nice to hear local accents sometimes.
Where abouts in West London? I grew up in North West London. A place called Harrow, or Arra to speak in the local dialect. 😉
Beautifully read. Thank you Mr. Kirk!
You are most welcome. Just to let you know, we will begin a study of Plato’s Republic over on my other channel Book Club today. Here is the link:
th-cam.com/channels/9L6KBc0AKe2mL5Yli0AtyQ.html
This is excellent. I am a PhD student in London, working on Plato at the moment, and finding these very useful. Thank you. Do you plan on recording the Laches and Alcibiades Part II with accompanying texts as well? It will be very helpful.
Hey, happy to hear that you are finding the Platonic dialogues helpful! I do plan to get round to all of the dialogues at some stage. Thanks for the comment, and good luck in your studies!
This is my favorite nightly listen! 🙏🏼 ty
Glad to hear that. You are very welcome 🙏
Same lol
Very thankful for the audiobook with text! My English is weak so this is super helpful.
Your welcome. I feel that even for people with English as a first language, having the audio and text together is the best way to take in the information.
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Thank you so much for making this!
You're welcome!
If you enjoyed the Symposium then be sure to check out the Platonic Dialogue playlist to find many more of Plato's works!
Wow Symposium is beautiful. Thank you so so much my brother. 🎉🎉🎉
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I really enjoyed your reading, thank you for making this video :) Keep it up!
Thanks Christine. Happy to hear that you enjoyed it! 🙏
1:03:16 Agathon's Speech time marker
Thank you for making these. I listened to your theaetetus, sophist and statesman. I'm going back through several of Plato's works and audio with text is great. how many of these are you planing on making? are you planing on doing Parmenides?
I haven't tackled the Parmenides myself yet, and will be leaving that till last, but yes, I will be doing more. Philebus is coming next. I'm really glad you find them valuable. Thanks for letting me know.
This is very well read.
Thanks. Appreciate it! 🙏
❤ This was amazing. Thank you
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Jesus! this was good 😉 thank you
You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
1:26:22 The Speech of Diotima
#180degreetheseries brought me here😊 #เส้นลองจิจูดที่180องศาลากผ่านเรา such a real masterpiece
I have autism and this helps me emote during class
Glad to hear that, and happy to help 🙏
Very good reading, what is you personal favorite Plato dialogues? I would like to read it next
I would say the Phaedo. Glad you are enjoying the Platonic Dialogues 😀👍
Auidomark - 1:26:22
Which translation are you reading from?
It's the Hackett complete works translation.
The Hackett Symposium is translated by Nehamas and Woodruff. It's a lively translation. And this is an excellent reading.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
thank you soooo much friend lewis!
You are very welcome! 🙏
Thank you very much :) well read and nice voice
You're welcome! I'm glad you like it. 🙏
27:03 beginning of page 12
Great reading... Thanks Brother 👌👌
It’s my pleasure, you are welcome 🙏
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Really nice video! Could you maybe re-upload the pdf of this translation?
Send me an email and I will forward it on to you 👍
1:15:54 Socrates Questions Agathon
How many pages is this book? I feel like i couldn’t read this in 24hrs because thats what it feels like when I try to read a 100 pages
There are 49 pages in the dialogue Symposium. But the text is very small and compacted. It's quite a long dialogue, so maybe you could try breaking down into manageable chunks, say 30/40 minutes.
@@lewiskirk8289 thankyou!
You're welcome! 👍
Man. I knew these guys were gay but I was not prepared for just how gay.
Thank you
You're most welcome
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️✨🎄Good job
Thank you so much
You're welcome! I'm glad youike it! 👍
25:25 to move quickly to someone else. As a matter of fact 181d
33:32 that is subjugation for the sake of virtue 184c
I’m just making bookmarks to help me finish reading the book. I’m learning this passage in my university.
Thank you for your great recital.
Gracias, merci, adios.
34:43 Only in this case 184e
41:00 Indeed, this may have been just what Heraclitus had in mind, though his mode of expression certainly leaves much to be desired 187a p325
48:25 Aristophanes speech
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This is my first time listening to this, it is reqllt beautiful. Also i did not realize that the ancients had such devoloped thoughts on lgbtq issues.
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thanks for hearting my timestamp :)
Anyone that hearts Plato, has a place in my heart. 🙏
I want to listen to this but this is so boring. How do people read these books? Any tips?
Go slow and be consistent. It’s not fun, or entertaining. See it like going to the gym for your mind.
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Um i was just looking for info on the androgynous race. Is there something some treasure here?
Besides, no one will die for you but a lover, and a lover will do this even if she's a woman.
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Someone please tell me if I heard this wrong but..... did this man just tell everyone that loving young boys (Children) is ok? 🤨😟 umm... no.
You should check out the bock saga...you are in for quite the shock if you ever leave the US.....there is a ton of shit about young boys in here, think elecromagnetically.....think of young or fresh as potent and pure. A literal interpretation sells it short.
Not all of platos works are authentic. There’s some corruption and people have added stuff in that isn’t authentic and the word of Socrates. It’s like any document that over 2000 years old. It’s not entirely authentic most of is but they’re a defiantly some corruption.
Athenians had a different conception of love, and homosexuality in the way that it is currently conceived (being an identity)would not be socially acceptable. They were certainly pederasts, but to them it was, in addition to a sexual relationship, a way of tutoring a young man, as the older man took the boy under his wing and trained him in the various duties and arts of civic duty and warfare. As far as historical accounts go this wasn't apparently a universal thing, but a phenomenon that was mainly prolific in Athens. Though in time, considering that Athens was a central focal point of Greek culture, the practice spread.
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So THAT's where the stereotype comes from...
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THIS SUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKSSSS
Man gahhh damn 🙄
Kinda gay...
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Sorry but Phaedrus was a batty man. 😂 talking bout himself
Why do they always go on about pederasts and gayness?
anyone got a discord invite
There is a patreon link. Come and join.
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