What's Better for Seasonal Sites? Destination Trailers vs Fifth Wheels
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I love how open minded and honest your comments are. thank you!
I try to call them like i see them good and bad
I am not always right of course, but I try to be fair
This channel is gold! Kudos from Canada.
Only Josh could find a way to throw in a Sir Mix A Lot lyric in video about campers.
This is EXACTLY the video I was looking for! Thank you!
You're so welcome!
I've often wondered about this, seeing the wide variety of fifth wheels. Thank you for the very informative video. 😊👍
Glad it was helpful!
Me too! My husband and I talk about this all the time!
I’m so mad at myself for not buying a seasonal site in the spring of 2020. Now what few spots are left are up to $5000 more. I’m going to wait it out I think to see what happens once people are able to travel again. I have no intentions of towing it & have every intention of buying from Josh. I really appreciate all your hard work with these videos . Your personality really comes through & I feel comfortable making a large purchase from Haylett’s
The “Baby Got Back” reference was EVERYTHING!!! 😂 Love your videos!!
Josh, I’ve had that same thought about owning a very large 5th wheel and having it moved for me perhaps twice a year. Depending on the cost to move it vs. buying a super heavy duty truck $$$$ and then that tank becomes your everyday vehicle. If I don’t move it I can drive whatever I want or even pull a trailer with a side by side on it with me. Thanks for validating my day dreams.
Another thought -- it's WAAAAY cheaper to pay someone to move it those 1-2 times per year than paying for a truck you generally aren't using for towing.
I am a travel nurse and usually in the same place for 3 months. Maybe I can do this even though a bit more expensive with extra moves....
excellent... I'm sure a lot of people wondered about the differences!
Good point about the steps in a 5th wheel. Several older couples have traded off theirs for a destination. We went the route of a 30 foot V-lite BH. Added a roofed deck . Now we are looking to buy a 21-22 foot couples camper to do our exploring with (much to the chagrin of our grandkids).
Thank you thank you thank you for this video! Seriously helped us narrow our search!!
You are so welcome! Purely curious -- which way did you decide to go?
Great discussion, Josh. THIS is why I subscribe to your channel. Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
My parents used to tow RV's from the Mfgr to the dealerships about 20 years ago.
Thx for sharing a bit of your history with us :)
Yeah. My 5th Wheel that I live in, hasn't Traveled at all. Except when the wind blows hard, and that's it lol! I'd buy a 5th Wheel for that reason, simply because I don't Travel. At least not right now, and at least the wind isn't blowing hard lol. I've seen Nice Travel Trailers too, I just need more room. Thanks. Nice job.
Great video and you are spot on about everything. Your small details about the steps inside a Fiver vs Mobility concerns can be very important. Thank you.
My pleasure!!
Great video. I picked up a 39' Cherokee destination trailer last year at a very good price. The determining factor for me was the 8' ceiling height, bathroom layout, and most importantly ... the full-sized house style fridge. The beer supply is always abundant and cold. The bunk house with separate dinette/bed is also nice for the kids and keeps them in their own area. I don't feel as claustrophobic in this trailer nearly as much as in my friend's 5th wheel. I think it's largely due to the vast number of windows and the large sliding glass door. I have the trailer setup on my own land and use it as a "cabin" all year long. A skirting made of 1" foam board and a small utility heater under the trailer keep the pipes/tanks from freezing down to -20 F. A good quality anti-sway hitch is a must if you plan to tow the rig.
That skirting + belly heater are clutch. Electric belly heating unit?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Just a milk house heater I picked up on sale at the farm store. I have it placed under the discharge pipes facing the bathroom toilet supply line. Keeps the whole rear thawed out. I have another one at the front of the trailer under the water heater area but haven't needed to run it yet. The skirting system is tight so it stays comfortable under there. If I keep this trailer, some double pane windows would be a nice upgrade. The new trailers would be a nice upgrade as well but I think I'll wait a few years and see if I can find one gently used. The costs have gone up a bit.
This was a awesome video.
Thanks to this video I'm going to go with a destination trailer.
Glad it was helpful :)
Sir Josh, I wonder how many of your viewers pick up on these little generational Easter eggs. 1:50 😂😂😂
LOL! :) At least a few!
Great information! As always!
Hey Josh, I think you’ve opened my eyes up to considering the destination style RV for what we want it for. I didn’t realize they were less money than a FW. I really like everything you pointed out. Thanks for the tour, awesome info as always.
Glad it was helpful!
What's YOUR Plan for camping if I may ask?
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Well, we still plan to buy a FW from Haylett, as well. Probably a Cougar 30+ foot or Jayco, most likely an Eagle 30+ footer.
@@korymwoodllc Man.. you have good taste Kory :)
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LOL, why thank you, Josh‼️🥸
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Question: husband asked whether it is wood or steel constructed? Also, is wildwood destination made for full time living? Thank you.
great advice, thanks.
Great video, one of your best.
Wow, thanks!
Thanks! Trying to decided between a full time 5th wheel or fiver toyhauler. No toys,rear den design.
I don't know YOU and how you like to camp obviously, but I can say with a dozen years of experience you'll likely be FAR happier with a non-toy-hauler layout given what you just said you're looking for. Something like this perhaps?
* Cougar th-cam.com/video/S6a-RGZPwGk/w-d-xo.html
Or it's big brother if you need a little "more" th-cam.com/video/kPHaTjm4tpE/w-d-xo.html
Im a seasonal from NJ and in my opinion, destination is the way to go. Unfortunately, there's not a big market for used models in my area.
Man they VANISH over here. The regional nature of that segment of the business doesn't surprise me, though.
The local dealer doesn't even have a category on their site for destination models. We have a 5th wheel that suits our needs well but we'd like a more homey destination. Thanks for all the information and great vids!
@@msm624 I have ours bunched up right here: bit.ly/36oGEO2
I still have them categorized as "Park Models" as that's the phrase the majority of people use when seeking them.
Thank you for this informative video, I didn't know about these. They're worth considering in my situation (I'm looking for an RV trailer and I plan move it maybe 2 or 3 times the entire time I own it, over the course of maybe a decade).
Search our channel for “Lodge” and you’ll see a few good examples
On the note of destination "towing", don't most, if not all destination trailer have detachable/removable A-frame A-frame hitches? When my uncle bought a "single-wide" he called it, the A-frame was removed after the cinder blocks were set in place. He bought a "ultra bunkhouse" for a hunting cabin.
Some destination trailers have an *optional* detachable tongue. It's possible some brands do it standard -- I'm not aware of them though.
Hi Josh, I want to thank u for this video, it has lots of good information
Thank you for watching and saying something nice today Sandra!
I want to buy a destination trailer from you Josh, your videos are extremely informative and I trust you more than other dealers. I wish I wasn't so far away from your dealership, in PA...
Could actually may be worth inquiring about having us deliver one to you. Almost every destination trailer we saw we end up shipping out to a location for a client
Good advice!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video
Thanks!
This was extremely helpful. Thank you!
My pleasure :)
This was a very very informative video, u hit the nail on the head on this video big man, fantastic job!!! One question though that i don’t think u answered..... can u put an upgraded suspension system on a destination trailer or are u pretty much stuck with what comes on them? Great job Josh!!!
You could, but I question the benefit of such an upgrade. If that was the goal, then you'd likely want to gravitate to a FW initially
Do you have an idea I am not considering as to how that would work?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yeah what I was thinking is that someone could still tow it to Florida or Texas or Arizona or New Mexico or any of the southern states from central or the northern U.S. and then if they wanted to bring it back home for their summer months then they could and u would have the better suspension under it, so it wouldn’t get beat around as bad! Cause that suspension upgrade can’t be that expensive is it? Since ur only pretty much changing out two or three components on each side of the trailer correct? I’m sure u could get way more expensive stuff like doing torsion axels or something similar to that but just doing the two or three components on each side I wouldn’t figure would be that expensive. The room that one of those destination trailers gives u compared to that of a fifth wheel is about how much room, it’s a bit isn’t it? That’s just what I was thinking about. 🤔🤔
@@markmorgan5892 It really depends on exactly what sort of upgrades you're discussing, but typically things like suspension and solar seem to cost far more than a consumer expects from what I've seen.
For the type of towing you're discussing I don't know that it'd be needed really, but it boils down to individual preference and comfort.
Chances are for the cost of a suspension upfit you could likely just have someone move it for you several times
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh ok I gotcha yeah I guess that’s a possibility as well, thank u for the answer to that, keep up the awesome work big man!!!!
Thank you Josh, you have given me a lot to think about. I have been trying to figure out what I want to potentially live in when I retire. I will be stationary so I would have my RV moved to its location, set 'er up and live happily ever after... just trying to figure out now if that will be a fifth wheel or destination trailer. It's just me so been focused more on the smaller fifth wheel and since I've been doing my own podcast for the last year thought a midline or BH could be made into a small studio. So many things to think about but this video was very informative, thank you!!
I'm curious -- how does something like this strike you? th-cam.com/video/Ylxxf8W1-U0/w-d-xo.html
That rear room could be ANYTHING you wanted.
@@JoshtheRVNerd @Haylett RV Reviews, News, & More I like where you're going with that and it is nice but the bathrooms are way too small. I think that's why I'm liking the new 5th wheels, the square/rectangular showers and usually good room around the toilets.
Thank you for sharing.
“Timbuktu...wherever-Stan”...😆
It's quite maybe a real place
If you get to Timbukthree, you've missed the turn.
Great info thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
*I'm thinking about this video...(Yes, you can smell the smoke??!!!)* !! *Might work and help me, in the long run, to FIRST get some land, THEN get a destination trailer and NOT buy a BIG expensive truck* !! #HaylettRVReviewsNewsAndMore
Awesome information! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Haylett RV have you seen the new fifth wheel on one deck? I believe its a Columbus River Ranch and has about 7 or 8 steps to get into it but then is all on one deck. No steps on the inside is kinda cool but thats alot to get into it in the first place especially when they are marketing it as a full timers retirement fifth wheel. TONS of storage though.
I have. It's actually something Keystone did originally roughly 10 years ago (see here www.haylettautoandrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fuzion-Vizion.jpg)
I love whenever someone is willing to "do it differently" (or I guess re-release something). I'm not sure how enthused aging full time RVers will be about 7 steps in and out, though.
Time will tell!!
I had no idea is was a re-release. I was in one last weekend and didnt like it and im not 40 yet....i was thinking no way someone with a "hitch in their giddy up" would want this rv to live in
Thank you for all the info
very good review
Ty
I was quoted $4500 to move a 5th wheel from Cold Water to Portland from Haylett. ....that ain't cheap.
Transport rarely is, but understand factory shipping to a dealer in your area is actually a little more.
I would think that another thing to consider is resale. If you have a unit that's not designed to be moved you're limiting the number of people who want to buy it from you. Not a deal-breaker, but something to keep in mind.
It's not that they can't be moved -- it's that they aren't expected to be moved regularly. I suspect the demand for destination models varies regionally, but around here we are swimming in seasonal sites and they hold their value VERY nicely
Smaller audience, but niche audience willing to pay for what they want (which is in highly limited supply)
But you could (potentially) tow around a park model ?
Can you live full time in a destination trailer? If you buy new, will the warranties be voided if you live full-time in them? How "seasonal" are destination trailers?
There is no distinction in warranties for them, but I know it's a common practice.
Josh, I'm as green as they come to RVing, and I could use your help on the do's/don'ts of setting up a travel trailer as a temporary domicile while building a new home.
I've found a 2017 Jayco Jay Flight SLX 32BDSW for sale locally that could be a good candidate. I feel comfortable with the overall build quality & layout of the Jayco and hope it will have a better resale value once we're done with our move. Regardless of what travel trailer we go with, it'll be parked under a pole barn during our transition and have access to onsite water, power, and be plumbed to a septic system.
However, I was curious if you have any videos on how to set up a travel trailer for long term use. In particular, I'm uncertain on the best way to set up the sewage line (do I leave black/grey valves open?), power, water, etc.
Your videos are so informative and enjoyable and I would really appreciate your advice on those issues or any other tips you may have for tackling longer stays in a travel trailer (i.e. getting decent WiFi remotely).
Thanks!
First of all thank you very much for watching. I don’t currently have a video like that but hopefully it’s something I could add to the Channel later on
We are in this exact position right now. We are actually working with Bish's sales team trying to find the right fit. We have acreaage in the UP of Michigan, with electric and septic, so we would love to investigate a destination trailer. However, with the industry as it is, you cant even get one to walk through, let alone purchase one. Manufacturers just arent making them. Couple questions we have.
1. What about winter storage on a destination trailer? We store our current TT in fairground barns. Would towing it to storage and back constitute as "towing"?
2. We are looking to extend the use of our new rig into the end of December in the UP of MI. We keep getting pulled back to a Montana 5th wheel, due to its 0 to 100 ratings. We know its not a house and there are many precautions that need to be taken to even stretch any rig that far, but It doesnt seem the destination trailers are rated to get close. Thoughts?
Last I visited our Ludington store they had 2-3 on hand.. I would call to see what they may have to at least try on for size!
*TOWING:* I don’t quite follow sorry - if you’re moving it, then you’re towing it
*WEATHER RATINGS:* Cedar creeks are going to be on the level you’re seeking
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for the replys. Re: towing. Destination trailers are not designed to be towed. My question is in regards to frequency and distance. For instance. It doesn't seem logical to tow a destination trailer as a weekened warrior. But if one was to tow only twice a year for winter storage, does that change the recommendation. To simplify, is it better to leave a Destination trailer out in the Michigan winter rather than tow it to indoor storage?
@@brianmoore3988 At that point it's likely preferential. I don't think it's out of the question to move the RV for storage purposes, then back for seasonal use
Nice break down. I thought you might talk touch more on specific structure/construction and maybe insulation differences that might make one more "comfortable" for long term "living" (unless I missed it in there?🤷)
It's a good conversation point I think. For general living purposes both should be pretty similar there. I always feel like I am dancing a line between not being too overly hyper specific and not being specific enough lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd yes, I understand you are trying to do the dance the best you can. Doing a great job providing great information and in a light package. Cudos to you.👍
I love these videos from you Josh, but one thing that doesn’t seem to get talked about is insulation. Is a destination trailer good for full time living?
There's so much bad and misleading information out there in this industry about insulation. The topic is just a mess.
Destination trailers can vary like anything else but I will die on the hill that "there is no true four seasons RV"
Dude. I want to buy my next destination trailer from you! I’m only about 2000 miles from youz
That’s quite the destination..
_lol_
Are destination trailers rated for winter living?
It’s important to understand that no RV is really made for all weather conditions
Different destination brands are built differently. Cedar Creek would probably be one of the best for what you’re seeking.
Looks like a Destination trailer would have a lot of benefits for seasonal use. How does one obtain service on something that they cant tow? Does Haylett have Mobile Service Techs?
Great great question! RV Warranties typically do not cover things like service calls. They'll cover the work of course, but even in the case of a destination trailer they rarely cover the cost of dispatching a mobile service tech to a location.
We do have local mobile service as well
@@JoshtheRVNerd So warranty would cover parts and labor but not travel expense of the mobile tech?
@@snowtime01 That's *usually* how RV warranties are structured. I would always recommend investigating additional specifics that may apply to the brand in question you're seeking as individual companies _may_ have variant policies
I love the detail you provide in a language everyone can understand. Keep up the good work .. BUT ... also keep in mind the awesome Destination Travel Trailers that are great for every day towing that you also sell. LOL. Shameful plug I know LOL have a great weekend.
You mean like THIS beauty?! www.advantage1rv.com/inv/2019-Palomino-Columbus-Castaway-86FK-Advantage-1-RV-A1-2819/
Btw -- We just launched a new dedicated website specifically for our A1 inventory like yours. That broke the feed to things like RV Trader in the process (unavoidable growing pain), but we'll have that back up and running next week.
How much is a all season full time Montana rig or a artic package??
For clarity no rv - even a Montana - has “all weather” packages
Pricing will also vary by model, equipment, and shipping. Our website will have figures for you
What about full time living in Northern California. Temps from 40f to 110f. What would be better?
Hmm... I'm inclined to say FW simply because they commonly have more advanced weather packages but a solid radiant barrier and dual airs on a destination RV would likely work just fine
The X-Factor is the number and size of windows..
What would you recommend for a family of five that will be living in it full time but, would like to occasionally take it on a trip?
Not a destination trailer if traveling now and then
Either a larger bunkhouse trailer or some variety of fifth wheel would seem to be in order.
First things that popped into my head for both of those categories linked below, but know you have a WORLD of opportunities out there. Hard to provide personalized suggestions with limited knowledge of our client
* Trailer idea: th-cam.com/video/4fMMkvGs4yg/w-d-xo.html
* Fifth wheel idea: th-cam.com/video/v-SS8wGWWEQ/w-d-xo.html
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I've been told destination trailers warranty will be voided if I tow them and I'm not supposed to tow them even once a year? That kinda confused me. Basically all I wanna know is are Theese prone to falling apart and cracking on the highway? I'm not worried about handing the load it's not near the heaviest thing I've pulled.
That’s not accurate thankfully. You may tow them to their destinations without affecting your warranty
@@JoshtheRVNerd awsome thanks for the response. I'm still thinking on it lol. A 1.5 to 1.7k lb hitch weight is alot without an equalizer
What would be easier so sell, 5th wheel or destination?
In my experience used destination trailers usually go quickly
Hey Josh, I've been subscribed to your\ channel for about 2 years now. I have a question that I would like your input. In less than 3 years we will be starting our build on our next home. We plan to sell our current home and live on the building site of our new home, just over 4 acres. Our build will take approximately 18 months. We plan to buy a new RV and are seriously considering a Grand Lodge with a double loft. We currently live in West Nashville and our next house will be built just outside Nashville by 30 minutes. In your professional opinion, are destination RV's harder to sell used versus a used 5th wheel? We will have no purpose to keep the RV as it's only purpose is to temporally live on site during our build. Thank you for any input you can provide.
Regards,
Michael T
Foist
Congrats :)
Don't wanna duck in the bathroom? Drain the tub and feed them somewhere else! Bada bum . . . quack!
Love it.
I'll be here 'til Thursday. Try the veal!
Are we just going to ignore the fact that you said I take pictures of myself in the shower 🤔 😂
Josh the RV Nerd Only Fans? LOL
**Shudders**
Don’t worry, at haylett RV we clean your camper prior to delivery!
I think everyone I drove 18weelers
Do these Destination trailers vary like your height does?😂🤣😂🤣
Talk talk talk I can't listen to him.
This channel is gold! Kudos from Canada.
TY. Cheers mate :)