DESTINATION RV COMPARISON Wildwood Lodge vs Grand Lodge
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This video is so helpful as we are trying to decide between a 5th wheel and a destination model. Thank you!
Our pleasure
“Head room in the bedroom” That’s what she said 😂🤣. You’re adorable Josh. This is why I’m watching a destination rv video when I’m not even in the market for one. I really love that you talk about logistics of where you’re putting the model and insurance issues etc. I would have never even considered those things. Your videos are informative AND entertaining.
We try. Some places see it as the customer's responsibility to have pre-checked stuff like that, but the way we see it there's no way most clients would even know to look into potential problems like insurance/detachable tongue. It's OUR job to make sure they're getting the right one the first time
I'd really like to see the destination trailers come with an option for heat pumps. Having the option to heat with electric is nice on a trailer that is always hooked to shore power.
That makes a terrible amount of sense... love that input. TY so much!
Mine did
Great comparison video! Learned things about destination RV's that I didn't know before.
Great to hear! Our goal is always to provide the most information/education possible!
Was there something new that really "stuck out" to you?
@@JoshtheRVNerd
To be honest, I have to claim ignorance where destination RV's are concerned. So, the contrasts that you made against 5th Wheel RV's really stuck out.
You really do give a lot of great info in your videos, Josh. Useful info, too! Maybe you should rebrand this channel, or start a parallel channel named "RV 411 w/ Professor Josh R.V. Nerd" or just "Haylett R.V. University".
;)
Man....these are exciting. Ive been living in a smaller rv at different parks around town full-time..as i get more into the lifestyle i look forward to getting something like this
Josh, I appreciate ALL your info. Good and bad. The best surprise is no surprise.
The Grand Lodge is awesome!
Ty :)
Even though I do not plan on purchasing a destination trailer, I really like your comparison videos. Nice job Josh!
I appreciate that! Thanks so much for watching :)
Great video and awesome explanation on so many topics! Not only was it a triple comparison but all full of great information that, as you said Josh, many other dealers may not fully explain to a buyer. These videos are priceless to most any buyer, rather a first time purchase or a 2nd, 3rd, etc. I appreciate your hard work, explaining the details, and the time you put into all of your videos. The Nerf Battle Fort had me sold. 😎
"Nurph" so we don't get sued LOLOL
Thanks Josh and team! I learn a lot from all your videos!!!
We just bought a Grand Lodge last week. The second air conditioner was a must for us.
Yeah on the grand series I couldn’t imagine anything otherwise. I’ve been told on the standard larges some people prefer one AC for the cost savings. But it seems penny wise and pound foolish
Long winded? You? I don't believe it. A nerf battle fort would be pretty cool.
LOL -- hush hahaha
LOL. "Now" was the password.
"Now" was always the password..
Yes I am very interested in the Wildwood Grand Lodge and look forward to seeing you about one in the very near future. Thanks for the comparison really helped with decision making.
Awesome, thank you!
2nd Air Conditioner FOR SURE!
Really like your Videos and your presentation, thanks for taking the time. We are definitely going to buy our trailer from you guys.
Thanks for watching!
Hmmmm. We live in southwestern Florida, just south of Tampa. We are looking for a weekend/getaway place to use in a resort/RV park just north of Tampa, in Pasco County. We don't have grandkids and our kids are late 30's so no need for the loft(s) however the upgrades intrigue us and we would like them. With the unit being a Florida based unit, there is NO DOUBT that the 2nd A/C unit, and more preferable would be heat pumps for the 2 weeks of winter, would be a requirement. Your videos are super helpful, thanks for your honest and complete reviews.
This is the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. TY.
We had a seasonal site back in the 90's but we went with a 5th wheel because 1 or 2 times a year we would pull it out to go on vacation.
That really is a hard dividing line. If you really plan to move it almost "at all," then FW feels like the way to go
*LOVE both the Lodge and Grand Lodge* !! *FAB that the Grand Lodge comes standard with TWO A/C units* !! *Can be HOT in North Carolina for 10 months out of the year, so TWO A/C units are a MUST HAVE* !! *Wonderful to see side-by-side comparison* !! *Happy to see REGULAR plumbing is an option* !! #HaylettRVReviewsNewsAndMore
Thanks for the regional input, Susan! We'd like the putting dual A/C on everything given the feedback we've seen. Sometimes I think a client just needs to see what's actually available and we apparently offer a little more info that in regard.
Yes absolutely agree with your comment about two air conditioners. I'm from Louisiana, and it does get hot and humid in the summer. So two air condition would be a must!
I don't remember you saying anything about the washer and dryer hook up. That is absolutely a must have for my needs as full-time living. What price range are we looking at?
Wondering. I would like to replace the dining room seating with my personal one. And most probably the couch. Could they be removed and moved out through the door? Very important also if the refrigerator needs replacing can it be removed and pass through the door to the outside.. Thank you.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I know the question for you Josh. I would need a little bit more counter space in the kitchen for sure, need to put a dish train beside the sink. Is it possible to have this addition in?
Thank you 🙏🏼 for this detailed explanation I loved 🥰 it and your funny lol password lmfao😂❤
Glad you liked it!!
Can't even compare both. The Grand Lodge is superb, and even though I absolutely hate the loft, a second bedroom in this would be perfection!
There's definitely a VERY clear and obvious division between them.
They used to have an in-between series, but folks either really liked simplicity or ALL OF THE THINGS lol
OMGosh Josh, Good information to have about parks and sales. I love the versalounge furniture. They should just make that first loft into a closed attic or get rid of it. The second loft makes for attic space since it is so small it only fit's teenagers.
I like this guy.
Ty!
love your character.. cheers .. PS. now I want a Grand Lodge.
Well Thank you :)
First time,and laughing at you Mr. Now!
That big should be standard 2 a.c.
See.. that's how I felt
And it's how we'll be bringing ours in moving forward
Thank you, this was so helpful in knowing what would meet our family needs!
Glad it was helpful!
By far my favorite review of any rv! Great job bud..
Well ty
This was really really informative to me.
Good deal! I'm hoping to get back to doing more of these comparisons as the weather warms up, but I was also thinking we'd be able to keep more RVs on hand. Going to be a weird year for sure
Yes, I'd like the dual air conditioner standard
I Love the Grand Lodge... Wish I could find something like that, with the Lofts that I could tow a Couple times a Season.
Maybe something like this? m.th-cam.com/video/6vxzN8zB8Do/w-d-xo.html
Dude!! 16 minutes before we see the inside?? You know how hard it is to get my wife to sit through that?? Still a great video!!
I live in Maryland and this bay area humidity makes the summers hotter than Satan's toenails. 95 degrees with 90% humidity feels like 1000 degrees. Gimme that 2nd AC all day every day.
So shall it be done!
Thanks Josh, a gentleman and RV nerd.
Also I'm loving the build quality on the underbelly, no odd clumps or ragged connections.
hahahaha
Thanks
As always love the video. Great information. I am not a destination camper and I learned alot. If it is possible I would like to see a comparison between a 5th wheel Hideout and a Cougar half-ton.
We're not a Hideout dealer currently (Though that is a solid camper) so it's not likely something we'll be putting together
Easiest way I can say it is the Cougar will basically do everything the Hideout does, then go to the next level (sort of like comparing a Montana High Country to a Montana... which is ANOTHER video we have coming soon!)
While not my sort of thing. It was very informative. I always thought destination trailers, were a very small market. If someone has a seperate plant for them. Obviously, bigger than I thought.
There's more of them out there than I think folks realize. Much smaller market vs. common trailer/fw's, but plenty still.
You don't tend to SEE them as much (ie on the road) since once they're parked they tend to just... stay there
Many seasonal campgrounds actually sell the site+trailer as one "property" sort of like a house+land
i agree and have said that there’s a lot of seasonals buying fivers
There's certainly advantages to FWs as well for seasonal use -- basement storage is chief among them I think
Please...
2AC Standard from the Factory !!
You got it!
How’s my favorite Rv guy? Nobody can explain an Rv as good as you can. If I want to know something about a travel trailer I come to your channel before anybody else’s.
Thanks man :)
Great tips your great josh
Ty Debbie
I wish I could buy a trailer from you. .when I was in limousine service I use to buy NY cars from US . With the dollar eate now not see if it's worth it .
I just wish these trailer manufacturers would figure out how to make room for walk around beds. It’s nearly impossible to make a bed that is tucked into a wall
Hi Josh, great video! Is it cheaper to have the factory install the second A/C? I know I would definitely want it. Also, how does service work get done on something that is permanently parked hundreds of miles away from the dealership? Thanks!!
Factory 2nd air is usually cheaper, though we'll do our best to try to balance that for a client.
RV Warranties typically do require the RV to be at a dealership. We offer local mobile RV service, but understand factory warranties do not usually cover the cost of service calls
So basically.. it's something you need to budget/consider before the purchase.
My wife and I are seriously considering a destination trailer like the Grand Lodge. It has everything we need for full-time living, except a heat pump. Does the builder offer an option for a heat pump?
Hi John! Not at this time
Josh we purchased a 2020 Cedar Creek Cottage 40CCRS, made by Forest River. It is similar to the Grand Lodge, but even a step up above it in luxury. We have tent camp, had 2 Jayco pop up campers, and a Jayco Designer 5th wheel, which all of them were nice, but each was a step up. We have a lot on the river and bought this one for our last camper. We love this camper and it is a second home. Everybody that drives by compliments it and is amazed of the luxury and cost. A 5th wheel equivalent was the Cedar Creek Champagne for 30,000 more since these are made by Forest River I just wonder why are you not carrying them. Thanks
Cedar Creek is a beautiful rig. We've looked at them *very* closely & have great respect for them. The short answer is we basically already have RVs within their category doing a great job for us.
Great info👍
Thanks for watching!
Another super informative vid. We are considering replacing our 23 RB with a destination trailer on farmland. I think I want front a kitchen with large window(s) but not required. It would be by far the most bang for the buck in our situation. Any brands or models to stay away from?
Thanks Josh
The brands with which I personally have experience with layouts like those are generally viewed as solid/premium class. I don't really have an idea of who to "avoid" I guess. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
Thanks Josh!
Can you do the same for travel trailers? Same brand, same or similar floorplan, an entry model vs top of the line model. They look the same but why the prime model cost much more? Materials, better construction?
Working on it. If we had more in stock right now, then I'd have more of them out. I have a comparison playlist started & adding to it steadily. I squeeze these videos in "When I have time" which is almost laughable lol
You can see a few others I've been able to record so far at th-cam.com/play/PLUT5NkY-l88zukyiKhrCNqdwawrbltxl4.html and remember we have more coming!
I'm trying to get to about one a week... but with my schedule even that's tricky.
Great video! A lot of useful information. I do have a couple of questions about the grand Lodge. Have they done away with the rear living area/front master bedroom area? I prefer that over having the front living area because it seems more open. Do you have options on color schemes or is it you get what you get?
This one? bit.ly/3swu7Co
No other color schemes available btw.
The Salem Grand Villa is identical to this with a different exterior color btw
When you remove the tongue what happens to the battery? Do you need it to operate the camper even on shore power or can it be eliminated ?
Still best to keep a battery hooked up. You’ll need to place it below the camper. Folks sometimes make their own little storage box for them
NOW is the password for the Grand Lodge!
It worked when my mom said it at least... lol
That would be cool if there was a sunroom option from the onning to create more living space if you're going to put it on private land and not a campground.
There are typically local 3rd parties around park-heavy areas who offer things exactly like that!
Great info. Never thought of it that way
Thanks for watching and having an open mind!
good education
Ty! This is a bit dated now but mostly holds up
I enjoy these head to head comparisons. Could you do the same for similar floor plans from different manufacturers?
I likely won't be able to get to that level of specificity for a while. For now it'll be some brand-to-brand stuff. Eventually ... who knows
Thank you so much that was very informative. Which was necessary for me to know exactly what I should have for my needs. A destination RV is the way to go. For me as a senior and a full-time living. Question does it come in a different floor plan? Thank you. I wouldn't want to purchase from anywhere or anybody else. Do you have another Outlet closer to the South of the United States?
Longview Texas has a Bish’s!!
Josh, I love watching you and all your videos I’m especially interested in a destination trailer but my one pet peeve about these are they don’t have good space closet for hanging your clothes, can you recommend one that does I mean these are destination trailers you need a lot of room for your clothes please help
It can vary by model but a lot of them ARE lacking that way for sure. Something like this came to mind: th-cam.com/video/Vmv6ezBFro8/w-d-xo.html
My guess is the majority of women buying a destination trailer are heading or in menopause (vs younger women). TWO air conditioners. No need to survey. TWO 🤣😂😅
Cottage slide topper video
that size trailer MUST come with 2.....im in the south.....1 wont cut it.
Looks like the inventory is getting back to normal... (?)
It's two steps forward / one step back right now. We won't be at "normal" volumes for about a year I predict. And that's assuming no other shut downs take place
Josh we love these comparisons! Can you compare 2023 Cedar Creek Cottage with your destination trailer? We’re looking at 2023 Cedar Creek 40cck, 40cbar or 40ckf2
Thank you!
Sorry… Could you clarify? Cedar Creek cottage is a destination trailer.
Here’s one of those I’ve been able to get my hands on
m.th-cam.com/video/RSf6l6w-lv4/w-d-xo.html
Yes it’s a destination trailer. We would really like your opinion on them
Josh is Haylett doing anything about the light switch and thermostat behind the door in the master bedroom. I think they are building them with the door opening to the wrong side. Please respond. Thanks.
Wildwood has since moved the switches so they aren’t blocked
How about a battle royal between the all new 2022 Jayco Bungalow 40DLFT and the 2022 Wildwood Grand Lodge 42DL? Looks like a great cage match, Ding! Ding! Seriously though how about a comparison video... even if you have to use still photos to show the similarities, differences, pros, cons, etc.
I had bungalow vs. lodge in my comparison list but had to put that entire series on hold until we can start getting units on the grounds again. Hard to do one of these comparisons when I have nothing to show folks
@@JoshtheRVNerd i here ya... wifey and i wanted to see both the FR 42DL and the Jayco 40DLFT in person before deciding which one to purchase and we cant find either anywhere in MI with the covid shortages and build schedules. Did find pics of the new floorplan online (www.rvtrader.com/listing/2022-Jayco-Jay-Flight-Bungalow-40DLFT-5016125083) We can't even find a sales person who has answers on when they will start building or how long it would take to get one if we order. took it upon myself to contact the manufacturers and Jayco Rep said bungalows will build starting in January and would take between 10 and 12 weeks to get to me. FR rep finally got back to me last week and said no delays on 42DL and it would be 16 weeks. That would mean our campground would be closed for the winter before we get one. :(
@@snowtime01 Man I wish I had the answers for you myself but I really don' tknow :(
At my seasonal site it only has 30 watt capability. Would a 50 watt trailer even be allowed?
Yeah no worries there. They make 50 to 30 reducers so you can plug in. You just won’t be giving the RV full power needed for stuff like dual airs
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you. I have been wondering that for a while now.
Does the wildwood grand lodge have a macerator? I have two black tanks and the second one is full. I can't find any info to drain it out. Can you u help?
They do not. It’s all gravity based
Standard air-conditioning
Surprising. Ty for sharing. That's why I ask!
Do you think they're better than the Salem Grand Villa? I have to say, never realized the difference between Lodge & Grand Lodge....they both looked the same to me until you pointed out the differences.
Neither is better. They are *quite literally identical to one another!*
* Here's a video on specifically this topic th-cam.com/video/Xu4vsgMpWOo/w-d-xo.html
* And a tour of one of the Wildwood/Salem production facilities where you can see them both on the production line at the same time as confirmation th-cam.com/video/6_aut9MF6iA/w-d-xo.html
Is there outside storage or storage for black/grey tank dump pipes
This video doesn’t specifically relate to individual floor plans, so I don’t really have an answer for you. Will cover that kind of thing on a specific RV Reviews.
DW and I discussed these
Order Lodge with 2 AC, nobody hates being cool when it's hot out !
Makes sense to me!
I would move the trailer twice a year possibly and rarely 3 is that justified for a destination trailer? Or would a fith wheel be a better option?
It’s really a personal / subjective kind of thing Dusty. There’s no WRONG answer here - just the one that works best for you.
In that case I would lean to fifth wheel, but that’s me
My question is does adding second air at the dealership void the manufacturer warranty or should you order the rv or destination trailer from the manufacturer that way. cause if for some reason there is a problem I don't want to be stuck between the manufacturer and the dealer.
This is a great question and I'm surprised nobody has ever asked it before!
So you know there's never a case where you straight "Void your warranty" -- it's not an "all or nothing" kind of thing. Modifying an RV in one area or another may affect *that area* of the warranty
So the answer to your question really depends on what is deemed the source of the defect. We back all our work here for a year, so either way you're covered.
How do they compare to say the Cedar Creek Cottages?
Cedars are a true luxury FW on a flat deck. They will definitely be a trim package above but the pricing will reflect accordingly
I don't own a permanent site, but I do own 54 acres of hunting land. Are either of them, off grid capable?
In that regard they're no different than a common travel trailer or fifth wheel. You'll need to supply power/water
Great video… wonder what it cost to have a Grand delivered to TN?
Our team at 800-256-5196 can assist with that for sure. I am not sure what the going delivery rate may be
Do you carry Crossroads Hampton? If so, could you do a walkthrough on a 375dbl?
We do not at this time
@@JoshtheRVNerd Do you know if any of the brands you carry have a double loft, yet are less than 40' box length and less than 400 square feet set up (not counting the lofts)?
@@NateLeePhillips Apologies - in our current lineup I am not aware of one fitting that description
Another ❓I see that Wildwood Lodge offers the 4002Q model the 2 full room and bath, exactly what I need yet I did not see that design offered in the grand Lodge floorplan would that 4002Q be offered in the grand Lodge designation floorplan and well.
Lodge and Grand Lodge have separate layouts. We're unable to have a lodge model built with a grand lodge trim package or vice versa unfortunately.
Ok no problem just thought I'd ask thanks.
But the fit and finish on the destination trailers are shoddy
2nd air conditioner for sure
👍🏻 TY Phil
I need to know the actual price bro I don’t want know 30k less than a 5th wheel... I need to know full price for the grand lodge please and yes 2nd A/C from the factory.
This isn't a walk thru of specific models so I'm not sure which one you're referencing. You can see pricing on in-stock models here: bit.ly/2GX987M
We don't add dealer fees. Just taxes and tags as it applies to your purchase.
TY or the A/C Feedback!
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you I didn’t mean to sound like a rude jerk I should’ve reread what I typed lol 😂 but thank you for responding and so forth.
@@trucker_rob No worries my man! Thank you for watching and joining in on the discussion!
Keep it coming!!
Do you guys carry Surveyor legend brand or can you get them?
We do not at this time. What model are you seeking? Chances are we have something similar among our lineup.
@@JoshtheRVNerd surveyor legend 296qble we love the TT just would rather drive the 6 hours to do business with Haylett!
@@ShadowTek777 We have several that are *really* similar to that one you can browse at www.haylettautoandrv.com/inventory/?keyword=30qb
Our inventory on those is still currently wiped out, but we have multiple copies of all of those on order!
@@JoshtheRVNerd We have looked at the 30QB just really worried about the weight there. Using a 1/2 ton truck that I dont want to go crazy with overloading.
Question & Comment ...
Question: Is an 'on demand water heater' a possible option on either model?
Comment: My personal opinion is that any unit capable of two A/C's should actually have two. Regardless whether it will be in a very hot climate or not. One, it will allow the sharing of the workload, especially in extreme heat and .. Two, it will still keep you somewhat comfortable if 'one' decides to quit working.
*WATER HEATER:* No factory on-demand options available, but we can handle that here at the store. Swapping out the Grand Lodge's XL water heater for the On-Demand model might be a bit trickier since it's not set up for something remotely similar currently
*A/C SYSTEM:* TY for the feedback. I agree completely
I generally really love your reviews, but this time I was frustrated by the fact that, out of a 24 minute review, you spent the first 10 minutes talking before we even saw then inside of the review. This was meant to be a comparison; not a discussion on the pros and cons of removeable tongues!
I respect what you're saying, but it's also our job to make sure customers are proactively notified of potential pitfalls as well.
I sometimes need to trust a viewer to skip about with the trackbar if they are only interested in specific aspects/areas of the RV.
#nerfbattlefort at any age!
Yes.
Enough talk let's see insidenof RV