Inside a GUTTED Mega Mansion in Detroit, Michigan
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- Exploring the historic 33,000 sq/ft Bishop Mega Mansion in Detroit.
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The Latin inscription above the fireplace reads, "Whether you eat or drink, or whatever else you do, do it for the glory of God."
Close enough ;)
Amen
1 Corinthians 10:31
So doing it for the "glory of God", whatever that means... apparently results in your creepy house being abandoned. Cool.
@@mistercohaagen Repent heretic
My former pastor used to own the bishops mansion. I was there when his daughter got married. A couple of their family functions was there back in the 90s the house was so beautiful and very immaculate. They kept the grounds manicured and the furniture was incredible. I have some great memories hanging out with the family
It would be great if you had any pictures to share while there.
Pastors have mansions?
@@Stephen-q1k The Righteous Gemstones ones do. Look up Wayne T Jackson of Great Faith Ministries International. Just read the beliefs and that's all ya need to know. He bought it from John Salley after the Pistons Bad Boy years.
@@nathanhall7396Righteous gemstones???
How did your pastor afford it?
I've been in this house just after it was renovated in the 80's. John Salley used to live here. He once said, "there are rooms in here I ain't never been in." It is huge.
Wow that’s a lot of rooms
What, exactly, was “renovated” at that time??
😊❤ What's the history behind this house? Th
Yeah my name is John Ledford play you want to write him a check the fish to put it up for auction and I want the fucking house
Melania tell Steve I want to buy this house now I don't know what they want for it but buying 33,000 + square feet Melania and I wanted to buy it
I work in Belvedere Mansion in Galena, Illinois. Not nearly this size. But in 1800's, the wealthy built the homes very solid. The walls were built 2-3 bricks on inside walls....4 bricks on outside walls....no lumber. The room off kitchen would have been main dining room....that gold on ceiling would have been gold leaf, not gold paint. The characters on fireplace with sheep were religious figures or saints. The multiple safes were not all used for monies! Shelving would have been in some to hold the sterling silver, candlelobras, silver serving pieces. Most of the light fixtures were old. Some of the bookcases standing were saved, thank goodness... probably torn away from walls or other rooms. Magnificent woodworks, staircases and matble or stone fireplaces! The 3rd floor was often for servants quarters, nanny and children bedrooms, playroom for children. Sometimes a open ballroom. Even if wealthy, this is so massive, very expensive to restore and then to maintain! Would be a beautiful boutique hotel...a step back in time and luxury!
This was built in 1925-28 for the Catholic Bishop of Detroit. The edifice was sold and a family lived there until it was given back to the church for a while. The Catholic Church has not got the big donors in Detroit now due to the decline of the auto industry (think NAFTA and Reagan), as well as a little issue with immoral behavior payments that has taken quite a chunk of money. So, this is obviously the house Jesus would have selected for himself.
I'm Catholic...but this was a grotesque amount of money spent to house the religious order!!! I thought priests took the vow of poverty! What did this cost the church to maintain?
@@bonnehausman2253 Nuns took the vows of chastity, poverty, and obedience. From the historical perspective, many priests took the altar boys, which is what cost the church not only millions, but also parishioners. The massive expenditure on this building is outrageous!
@@bonnehausman2253 Your 'regular' Diocesan priests only take 2 vows: obedience & celibacy (which is obviously a very difficult one). Priests who belong to an order, such as Dominican or Benedictine, or Franciscan etc., take a third vow: the vow of poverty. However, "it is also expected that diocesan priests will lead a life of simplicity consonant with the people they serve". - quoted from the website of The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Mankind was very advanced back then.
The two openings on either side of the walls in the entry weee for radiant heaters and likely covered with an ornate screen. The metal boxes sitting in there are modern replacements.
Ahhh!! Well, that makes sense.
Probably had a couple air handlers in each room on both sides of the main entrance
Check out bolt castle thousand islands Alexandra Bay, New York. That’s way more impressive than this.
Correct and that giant room in the basement with 20' ceilings, may have been the boiler room. It would have taken an enormous boiler to heat that place...maybe more than one.
They are butchering it up. Terrible ideas. It could have been a school, senior complex, A medical building and a few other things. What a waste. Such beauty being destroyed. The architect needs to go back to school for awhile if this is all he can do. Shame shame.
I wish people would understand the difference between restoration and remodeling. Restoring something puts it back the way it was..remodeling makes it new or different. The absolute best restoration is achieved when repairing /restoring with the original types of materials done with the original skills and techniques. Many, many amazing chateaux in France and English manor houses are being saved in this manner. This estate might never recover from the vicious assault that has been wrought upon it!
We arent all experts and don't need to be to like the video
This was basically a private hotel, built as such for the archdiocese of Detroit. Yes, the bishop lived there, but would have been used to host other bishops, priests and diginataries from around the country and the world. The kitchen would have been a full commercial kitchen as they existed in 1929, with large bullt in refrigerator and freezer.
That makes more sense than anything else I've heard.
The figures carved in the wooden fireplace mantle are of Jesus.
@@ninasgriccia4652 The four evangelists on top of the wooden fireplace!
@@ninasgriccia4652 all of these old world buildings that are architectural masterpieces when original details remain and still exist are a record of the Millennial Kingdom of JESUS CHRIST. That is because we are lied to about our history and we live in a false reality. Historical buildings like this, and most especially capitol buildings, cathedrals, federal and state seized 'historic' buildings were impossible to build when 'we are told' they were built and they cannot be reproduced today because they were divinely created during the Millennial Kingdom by JESUS CHRIST.
For the record, there was free energy, light and heat during this era, that is not at all from the era we are told. The buildings are ancient and were built to last forever. The destruction they have suffered has been very deliberate. The bricks in these old world buildings have iron that conduct electricity, iron found in blood as it goes. Some architectural structures from this era have bricks that number a million or more yet there has been no evidence as to where and how they were made and the bricks alone cannot be made today.
quite the cool house. The Dodge brothers built this house in the 1900s for the Archbishop. Palmer woods is one of 4 or 5 historic areas in Detroit. Palmer Woods was built as the industrialists wanted to get a bit further out of the city but still be close. For those interested, the Palmer woods historic home tours are usually during the 1st week of December. The tickets sell out fast so a person needs to grab them within a day or two when they are posted. The other Detroit historic areas are Boston-Edison, Indian Village, the university district and possibly one or two I am forgetting. The city of Detroit was afraid of losing these historic homes so gave folks who bought these homes a substantial cut on their property taxes to entire more folks to buy them.
It's very sad to let it go! Beautiful ❤️ we really must keep these old structures. Nothing is close to these buildings now 😢😢😢
It was the Fisher brothers Body by Fisher who built the house not Dodge.
The figures represented on the fireplace are The 4 Evangelists- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Symbolically represented- Matthew with the winged man or angel, Mark with the lion, Luke with an ox or bull and John with the eagle. Also linked to the 4 fixed signs of the zodiac- Aquarius, Leo, Taurus, Scorpio.
There should be historic preservation laws against destroying these architectural treasures. The fact that it was some firm from LA makes it that much worse. Whatever this house sells for will be nothing compared to the cost to restore this house to period design. Hopefully the modernization will be recersed.
The modernization should be against the law
Unless they are planning to use it for a group home. Put the thing to good use right
In some areas, there are.
Blown away by this house and great job showing every aspect of this mansion. Thanks for the tour.
Thank you for watching!! Tried not to cut much out.
The house itself is exceptional. However the modernization of the kitchen and the carriage house are despicable. When one buys a house such as this, it is to preserve the history, not destroy it. I have looked at my share of houses ( my husband’s family likes to move every 2 years) and this one is very special and should be given great care. I wonder if there are pictures in an archive somewhere to show what it looked like back in the day.
I'm certain their is
There are some that may be in the Great Faith Ministry archives. Sadly, I never took any when I was there. There may be some from when Winnie Mandela was there during a visit
Why would you want to preserve a kitchen that sucks? Nobody pays millions of dollars (and then double the price for renovation) to live in a museum with a lesser quality of life than you'd find at a condo in Royal Oak.
I just looked at pictures that showed the rooms furnished. Just query Bishops Mansion, Detroit MI and they will be there.
It is NOT in a historic district - those who buy can do to these structures whatever the F they want. 😂😂
Thanks for this video tour. It's so good. Most of us locals know this house as an icon but have no idea what it looks like inside. It's quite the relic. The amount of work it needs is terrifying. Looks like it would make a good commerical property of some sort, depending on what Palmer Woods allows. Right off Woodward--one of the best public transporation routes in Metro Detroit. Easy for workers to get to. I think anyone buying this house to live in would have to be both filthy rich and unconventional. There are many very good, bad, and ugly things that go on in the bordering neighborhoods of Palmer Woods.
Thanks for watching it! Originally the first cuts of this tour were completely edited down but I decided to keep it as raw as possible. I could see it being an amazing Airbnb or true bed and breakfast.
What a gem. I hate the renderings for the kitchen and I wish the original was still in tact. I would put in a period correct kitchen with modern appliances that match. There would have been another kitchen in the basement. I believe the openings in the entrance would have been radiators. The chapel is the jewel of the house and the sweet swan mural being covered hurts. I am a purist and would completely renovate the entire home to it's original condition. Detroit has some glorious old homes. Thank you for showing this historic masterpiece to us.
Covering up the swans; that 💔.
Hi Paul, i have always loved Detroit. I tried not once but 3xs to run a way back in the 80s, lol . I still hope to make my way and retire in Detroit. I always say I'd rather by a house built between 1850s - early 1970s. Those 🏡 were built to last. Time, patience, much consideration for what the future would be like went into those 🏡 My father built his 🏡 for my mom and family in the 1950s and it still standing with much of the original raptors in the attic and 4x4s in the walls. Unfortunately, he lost the kitchen, bath, and dining room to a 🔥 in 2011 and b4 his 🏡 was restored he passed in 2015.. miss my pops.😢
I was there working when they shut it down. I did a lot of brick and block work. Plumbing was all done in the old Boiler room. I wish we could have finished it.
Oh wow! Wish someone snapped some "before" photos.
Who stopped your work? Was it being used as residence prior to shut down? Would love to know!
@@anonynony my guess is money and difficulty managing the project from across the country.
There is no better way of showing you have no style or taste than a modern kitchen.
People should be embarrassed to ruin a classic aesthetic like that.
There is nothing finer than keeping things original, IMO. I wish they sold antique looking stoves with modern components just so we who appreciate those classic designs could have it.
I normally don't comment on videos but i was in this house after john sally left Detroit a bunch of designers each took a room and decorated it i believe john still owned the house they did a showing after there work was completed the odd shaped room after the primary bedroom was a special area for the priest before he went into the chapel what i remember is beautiful hand made oak drawers there might of been somewhere for the preist to sit i remember red carpet its sad to see that just disgarded when i got to the chaple it was 100 percent complete with johns big screen tv at the alter imagen that all the spaces they took out on the second floor were just a bunch of small rooms thanks for taking me through there to bring back a great memory 😊
OMG, I love this house!!! I wish I had the money to buy it and renovate it.
So do I! the quality of construction is amazing.
The current owners gutted too much and is the reason why the Mansion couldn't sell when it was listed. A lot of the original charm is lost for ever!
I believe a lot of it had to be gutted because of the decay, and possibly excessive water damage.
Idk how anything like that could be been left to decay. That's beyond sad.
That was so fun! Thank you for taking us through. Clearly the bishops that lived there back in the day didn’t take the vow of poverty. I’m excited to see how it all turns out and like you, I’d love for them to keep some of the integrity of the original home.
I lived near that mansion in the 60’s and 70’s. I remember in the late 60’s hippies camped out on the lawn in protest. In high school I used to park in the drive way and pretend this was my house to impress the girls from the suburbs. I love that neighborhood it’s in.
What a hoot! Something in my subconscious memory is telling me that you parking in the driveway & pretending to dates that it was your house reminds of the movie "Pretty in Pink".
Thank you for your insightful tour. My family owned the house next door to the Bishop's house for more than 50 years and I never had the opportunity to go inside. I have done limited renovation work on two modern 2,000 SF apartments that I have owned and the cost was always into six figures. I shudder to imagine what it will cost to restore the Bishop's house to its former grandeur, considering the starting point is the first phase of a gut renovation. I suspect that the real estate investors who purchased the property have elected to put the property up for auction because they realized that the cost of a full renovation would be at a level that would make it difficult to earn an appropriate return on investment. Moreover, the nature of the wealthy buyers of such homes is such that they may have different views as to how they would prefer for the renovation to be done. For the sake of posterity, I hope that the buyer preserves the historical character of the home.
Thank you for watching! I wish I could have viewed it before all of the work was done. The cost would be ridiculous but I hope someone does preserve/restore the original character.
This is not a restoration, it's a remodeling, or more precisely, a remuddling. The new work is frighteningly bad and by notion of the renderings, it's promises to only get worse. Whomever the architect is that came up with this redesign should be ashamed of themselves. I hope whoever buys this property has the incite to start over with a firm that possess the proper qualifications.
Yeah, I’ve been in construction 50 years and we don’t renovate in America. We remodel . 20:29 it was a term brought over from the Canadiens.
I agree 1000% that kitchen the want to make is way to modern for style of home its not in keeping with how it was meant to be. I hate when they try to ultra modernize a home that shouldn't be
You could not possibly be more correct. See my lengthy comment above. You know what you're talking about but the chances of someone buying an OVER 34 THOUSAND square foot home are microscopic.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 It is indeed a very large property, but not undoable...given enough time and money. They already screwed-up with the windows. They're not horrible for a 30-year glazing product, but the dirty little secret about Thermopane is that they eventually fail and fog over, more quickly than anyone desires, with the exception of manufacturers. Until such time, they kind of look okay, but they're not at all period correct. Like nearly all modern windows, they're entirely too chunky. However, being dark helps take the sting out of that effect. I certainly would have liked to have seen what they pulled out. Anyway, not my project, not my problem. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Couldn’t agree more. It makes me so sad
I’ve been in the house it’s is beautiful. I used to live in that neighborhood in the 90s. I hope someone buys it and makes it whole again right again. I was there in the 90s at an estate sale . Mostly baskets shoes.
That's awesome! Must have been John Salley's estate sale.
As a bit of construction criticism I'd suggest you edit the video more before publishing. The first 8 minutes of the exterior could've been condensed down to a minute or two. It makes the video more watchable.
Thanks! But...The original cut of the video was condensed to 20 mins total - at the last minute, I decided to leave most of it uncut and it paid off. The video has outperformed any video I've ever made and most other videos like it in this space. Over 100k views in a week on a 1 hour tour is unheard of.
I agree 👍🏼 25% of video was unnecessary. I skipped thru and gave up halfway thru. Boring 😮
I also agree. The only reason this video is so highly viewed is not because of your editing but because of the historical significance of the location. I highly suggest you look at your analytics for this video, find drop-off points, and chop off those portions of the video. That will increase view watch time and ad rev.
The place would make a great museum/ hotel. The basement would be perfect for a kitchen live in staff quarters, wine cellar,storage the first floor dining rooms, for inside and outside dining. library , bar the second floor hotel rooms and the third floor would be a great owners apartments.
Very cool! I love looking at places like this. Beautiful home.
Thanks VERY much for doing just a quiet little tour through a house without having some majestic dirge playing in the background. I hate when other people do that. This is much better.
Thank you for noticing!! Drives me crazy when I see overproduced "tours" of homes from other real estate agents. It's impossible to get a real feel for the space. This is how I record private tours for my clients here in Michigan.
Wow. I was in this house once when I was kid. It was shortly after John Sally sold it. I tell people about this house all the time. I was like 8 years old at the time so I didn’t even remember when it looked like outside (I’m 42 now) but I remember this super long table on the dinner room with with a button under the table you push for wait staff. My eyes lit up when you said this was John Salley’s house. I was like…this is the place! This is the place! lol. Thanks for this video
That's amazing!!
Since the main stair goes to the third floor in all its glory, I think the ballroom was there, as mentioned when looking at the intercom. There would have been a men's and ladies' lounge, each with a bathroom. The animal border was probably a leftover if the Salleys used it as a nursery/playroom.
The room with a half bath in the angled wing at the end of the first floor was most likely the bishop's office.
The finished room at the bottom of the main stair in the basement might have been a billiard room. The white painted brick room was probably the laundry room. It isn't unusual for store rooms like those in the basement to be connected, in addition to a door from the hall.
Definitely agree that the main staircase going all the way to the 3rd floor indicates a ballroom - or room with some significant entertainment purpose - was up there.
I love your videos! I’m new to your channel and I’m so glad I found it! 👍😊
Thank you for watching!! I appreciate it
Vandals didn't come in and screw it up but construction Crews did
That is a massive piece of history. Thankfully there are several priceless features kept intact there. Maybe a caring foundation or investor like a museum, hotel, artsy school, church with deep pockets could bring it back to its full glory and make good use of it. It could be so beautiful if managed with TLC. Thanks for the tour.
Agreed! Would be nice to see it fully restored
I think it would be helpful to research and communicate basic historical info on the house.
Knowledge of architectural terms applied to interiors would help your channel.
Research on original floor plan would be helpful.
Thanks for the tour!
It was basically a small hotel for the catholic church. Now that I've looked at the original blueprints, it all makes sense.
Moving along a little faster would be a suggestion for your vid. Great video of some great old Detroit architecture. Thanks paul.
😅 funny thing is - the number one comment I get on these tours is "go slower" and "you move too fast" 🤷♂️
It was John Sally home in 89 during his Pistons years, then in 95, he sold to Bishop Wayne T Jackson, Great Faith Ministries International, and they sold to California investors...
I love your videos and would def appreciate you showing more😊😊😊
Thank you! I appreciate that.
The basement room with pipes I believe are refrigerator rooms all of the tiled rooms have to do with the kitchen. Main kitchen back in the day would be multiple rooms each doing different task IE: meat cutter, cheese and dairy, bakery etc…
This reminds me a the Edsel Ford house on Haven hill in highland township , sadly the kids in the trailer park next to highland recreation area burned it to the ground , about 10 k sqft only thing remains is the guest quarters at 2k sqft ,pool tennis court underground utility and power room massive with model T engines powering heat and electricity .
Still amazing whats left
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Love the carriage home I’d live there now for the Bishop mission it’s massive but I love it!!
A lot of people are hating on the carriage house reno
The only other mansion I have been in that is comparable to this one is Meadowbrook Hall on the estate of Matilda Dodge Wilson, which she donated to Oakland University in Rochester Hills. That mansion is similar and its design and interior to this one. The builder in those days would travel around the world and use artisans to come and do the work. You can find this kind of craftsmanship in Meadowbrook Hall.
I remember 3 years ago delivering machinery to there and the sheer size of it was amazing
These so called renovations are happening all over Detroit. Ruining all these beautiful old houses. Makes me sick. My old house had the butler’s pantry torn out. Crown molding gone etc. This mansion you’re in was so beautiful.
Lol Detroit . It's still a mess till they lock up 75% of the animals it's no place I'd go .
This place is so beautiful. It would be awesome to renovate it and restore all the beautiful features and turn it in to an apartment complex. You would have the most amazing apartments for people to live in. I would love to live there. Definitely worth investing in this place. 😊😊😊
I grew up right around the block. In the late 70s and early 80s there was a caretaker family that lived there...the Wilkinsons (sp?). George and Eugene were the sons; I forget the daughter's name.
I heard that some of the house was devoted to a caretaker family.
I remember some of the over the top blowouts that "Spider" used to have there, back in the day. The celebration he had for the '89 championship was something that I will always remember. Way cooler than anything that Davidson, or his ilk, ever put on.
It's sad to see the place in the condition that it's currently in. Hopefully, the new owners, can stick with the current plans, and keep both the workmanship, and the finances in line, to complete the project to its planned finish.
Regarding a lot of those "hidden rooms". Most of those were service access ways. Nothing worse than someone seeing the servantry using the same grand staircase as the Lord's of the Estate. How Tacky!!!😂
There's an interview on TH-cam of John Salley and Bill Bellamy where they talk about those crazy parties at the Bishop Mansion. Must have been WILD.
I see this as a luxury B&B. I couldn't even imagine it as a residential home. However, I don't know about the zoning in that area if that would be allowed to have anything commercial. But I see it as like a restaurant downstairs, a spa and just gorgeous bedroom suites upstairs for a B&B.
Agreed! Would make a perfect b&b
Won't ever happen. Palmer Woods is Detroits' premier historic district and is strictly zoned residential.
No one wants to travel to Detroit to stay in a luxury anything lol. Maybe downtown or metro Detroit. However this is not that.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 there are homes in Palmer Woods on Airbnb. Probably can't b&b it "hotel style" but the whole place could be rented nightly.
@@PaulWolfert I’d be amazed if that happened because I’m sure the neighbors would scream bloody murder if they knew. That would be a serious downgrading of the neighborhood and the likelihood of someone spending what would have to be at least one thousand dollars a night to make it worth it is, I believe, very very slim.
The mansion was once a home where monks lived and worked in the basement was when someone would visit would stay only one night and take a meal and every room that has multiple doors in a room was parked as a sign of wealth ❤❤❤👍👍👍😊😊😊
There are a couple of mansions in the city where monks lived.
The 2 small closets that are fluting the main entryway to the home are coat checks from long ago. For large events and gatherings people would enter the home to have their coat/belongings checked by a valet attendants that were sitting down on chairs inside of the closet until the gathering was over!
Such beautiful details!!
Someone absolutely ruined this house 😢
It could be beautiful again! 🙂
@@PaulWolfert I hope someone takes it on!
It's awesome! I'm like you, always looking for secret passageways and doors. Love the dumbwaiters too! The chapel is gorgeous, i pray whoever winds up with it will historically preserve it.
This is a great tour. I would have felt the same way going around this awsome home. Unbelievable! I had no idea!❤
We have some huge houses like this in the UK too. In the 1800s when people had 10 children at least and loads of servants and lots of guests you needed a lot of space. This one is a bit too big for my liking. It might need perhaps to be a base for someone with a business working from home where a few people could come to work if zoning/planning law allowed but it would be lovely ilf it could also retain some family home element to it too.
I agree. It would have been nice to view it while still in one piece. Hopefully I'll be able to return once it's renovated.
Absolutely beautiful home.
I went inside 1 time back in 2003 when I use to Film Church services for Bishop at Great Faith
How did it look?
I was here when there was an insurance claim about 8 or so years ago. I built the osb crates with wheels on the main floor. They hold the chandeliers from the main limestone hallway and foyer and the great rooms on either side. After that loss, it had another where the pipes froze and caused water damage in the main house and carriage house. I remember the plaster under the main stairs had holes and was about to collapse, looks fixed here. The room with the platform around the 40:00 minute mark held the massive boiler and tanks that were floor to cieling. The basement supposedly was used as a target shooting range at one point. Sad to see the modern look that was done towards the end. Absolutely gorgeous original woodwork. I'm a wood refinisher, and greatly appreciate the walnut and oak throughout. I may have old pictures of the place I took during the original packout somewhere.
The big recessed room in the basement, I think, would have been for the boiler/ hot water tanks. To supply enough hot water for the entire house would require substantial sized tanks.
Thank you! That makes sense. Really hope I have a chance to check it all out after renovations.
This is very very cool.
Thank you for doing this .
The room next to the elevator should hold the mechanism for the elevator. The metal pipe sticking up thru the floor are electrical conduits.
That makes sense!!
Would make a great bed and breakfast. The location is great for visitors who want to see the sites in and around Detroit.
I agree 100% - could be amazing if the city allowed it.
designed in the Tudor Revival-style by the Boston architectural firm of McGinnis and Walsh. Construction began by the Fisher Brothers in 1925 and didn’t finish until 1928. Many of the materials for the home were shipped over from Europe, including marble pillars from Sicily and wood from the Black Forest in Germany.
Thank you! Wanted that info!
Good thing the "renovations" stopped before they destroyed anything else smh. Im sure that original kitchen was glorious.
What in the fcuk were they doing in that space that was all framed up that had the mural covered up?
Hopefully someone with some deep pockets and respect for history buys it and it doesnt end up being demolished. Its too massive and seems like its only chance is to be converted something like wedding events/ bed and breakfast/ split condos/ if these are even an option in that neighborhood....
After the tour I learned that the framed out area is intended to be some sort of "live-in-nanny" wing. Still seems like a lot of tiny rooms to me.
I’m with you on the heights thing. Every time that you walk over to an open window and look down or an open stair railing my knees get weak.
In the 1970s this place was beautiful perfect inside spotless outside beautiful too..
NOT sure why people keep saying it's the bishop mansion I've sold this property 3 times in 35 years the bishop lived there actually died there in bedroom 6 2 ND floor I remember not wanting to be a part of. Selling to a California flipper he totally misrepresented himself to me finding out afterwards this once showplace is destroyed it would take of 3 different estimates between 2.2 to 2.9 million just to get it safe and livable I've always liked john Sally but after selling it to him he only wanted to flip it cheaper than even normal repairs BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO you can't refuse selling a property to someone we can only take a person's word WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT'LL GET US , LOL LOL 😂😆
@user-bd4qy5lq2h what prices did it sell at when you sold it?
is this the old Archdicese house in Palmer woods that John Sally used own? Dennis Archer lived in the same neighborhood
That ceiling is the bomb!
there use to be a bowling alley in that house my friend lived across the street when the Bishop resided there in the early 80z
Where was it in the house!? That's awesome!
My cousins told me that there was a bowling alley when he worked on this house in the early 80s
@@stormyi90211wish it was still there!!
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The area in the basement that you said you didnt understand was probably a food storage area ie (fruit, veggies, etc). They usually would make a lower area in the basement for it where it would be good and cold.. There was the door right next to it that went outside probably for deliveries and a dumbwaiter was near and the kitchen above it. Ive seen this in a few old mansions. This mansion is beautiful....thanks for the tour
The Latin, “Sive Manducatis sive Bibiris Sive Iliud Quid Facitis Omnia In gloriam Dei Facite” translates in English to: “Whether you eat or drink, or whatever else you do, do everything for the glory of God” and is from the New Testament,
1 Corinthians 10:31.
Such a Gorgeous structure 😮
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They have been working on this house for decades. It was to be the home of a bishop and it housed numerous people. I drive pass this mansion weekly and marvel at it from a photographers eye.
It was built for the Catholic Bishop of Detroit and occupied by such for decades until sold to Sally.
Great really sturdy building. Not sure how to make that a home exactly but thank you for sharing this with us it is interesting
Auction... man I was off by one or two numbers for that 1+ Billion dollars lottery... I would get something like this... 12 people lives are changed to become distinguished people from childhood to adulthood.... that is the academy... and we keep pumping out good people... hopefully they stay good... LOL
Please come back when the place is auctioned off and let us know what the purchase price was!
According to The Hearld-Lalladium May 20, 1970 the house was built in 1910 by Fred E. Lee. He was a banker and chairman of the board of Round Oak Furnace company. In 1918 the mansion was donated to the Sisters of Mercy of Dubuque, Iowa. They ran it as a hospital. The Western-Electric inter-phone was private phone system can call up to 12 rooms. They started selling them in 1913.
I don't think any of that is true. It was built by the Fisher Brothers for the Bishop of Detroit.
@@PaulWolfert Yep, I was wrong. Apparently, there is another Bishop Mansion in Dowagiac, MI.
LoL none of it is true
I hope that when they are done with the house, they turn it into a bed and breakfast ❤ I would totally go stay the night!!
So would I! I really hope I get to see it after the transformation.
John Salley's house. I remember touring it. Must have been the 90s.
John Salley bought it for 500K back in the day and lived like the king of Detroit!
I believe he was the only bad boy piston to live in Detroit during that era of the 90's ...I remember my saying it was fifty rooms in that Mansion
I did the windows in the house and carriage house i have a giant blue print n book on the fixtures n stuff some cool very cool building
I believe it's the Bishop's Mansion, home of the Catholic diocese Bishop. Palmer woods is a beautiful place.
Yep! Built for the Bishop by the Fishers brothers. They lived across the street and could walk to church.
@@PaulWolfert I remember the fisher family were involved with this huge mansion
This is a STUNNING home. Even though it requires a lot of work and money to complete this home has what they call "good bones". Any money spent on bringing it to completion will be money well spent. This will be a home that is highly desired by anyone with the money and taste to acquire it.
Agreed! Definitely has some solid bones. Hope to tour it again after it's redone.
Probably a "silver vault" which many mansions had to lock up the silver cutlery, candelabras, bowls, etc.
That makes sense. Just strange that there is one on each floor.
@@PaulWolfert Could also be a gun safe - it is Detroit... 😁
@@spurmarks You're about as historically sharp as a spoon, aren't ya'??
Now THAT'S a lot of House would fit into my plan very well
thank you!!!
It's a beautiful house. I would love to see it renovated.
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I REALLY hope whoever buys it will let me come take another tour!
The room in the basement was used for an ice room and delivery of the milk 🥛,you called the room a secret room ❤❤❤👍👍👍😊😊😊
I can't stop thinking about the cost of heating and cooling. 😮
😂😂😂 same. All the fireplaces make sense.
The budget plan in heating mi cond gas co is 2.170.00 per month x 12 months a year there's no central air but advantage cooling is budget of 1.977.00 per month. Electric about 300.00 ish per month.
Man this mansion is beautiful and look way better with restoration i wish i could buy it i definitely would ! But hope someone buy it and fix it up periodttt ❤
Agreed! Hopefully someone makes it shine again!
Originally the basement safe would have likely held the sterling silver and alcohol backstock. Upper safes would have been owners safe plus a guest safe for any valuables guests staying the night would have wanted secured.
That makes sense! reminds me of a hotel.
The area on the second floor where you can see into third floor is probably a direct entrance into owners room for the servants
It reminds me of Rose Red❤
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I can see the similarities 😅 th-cam.com/video/7vZlrlTbudw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HaF-whSnwIuYKm-B
@ 40:00 I believe that was the old "Boiler Room". Looks like they started putting in a modern Furnace and Water Heater etc. They may have had old coal/wood furnaces and had a pile of coal to shovel into it?
That would make sense - would need a HUGE space for the old boilers.
That yellow plastic hose in the basement is for gas supply lines. Maybe the big piles of dirt were from putting in the new and improved gas lines. Can you imagine how much gas it would take to heat it?
The bills would be outrageous!
"What do we have here?"
Reads note on trim...
"Leave alone"
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When u said hidden rooms ! I would hope so in place so nice 😅
Had to be! and a safe on every floor!
It would be interesting to know the carrying and heating/ air conditioning costs of such a vast institution-like estate. To bring a place like this back to life in the grand style would cost major money, as you mentioned while taking us on the tour.
I don't think anyone really knows the true cost to heat and cool it because all the systems would be replaced.
Love brick, windows. It’s a nice mansion!