I understand inflation but, shouldn't quality 1911s still be under 1K? I mean, considering how much technology has advanced as far as manufacturing, automation and energy efficiency. If they lower the price you'll sell way more and make more money than they're currently making. I'm not talking about independent, small and specialized shops like Chambers. I'm talking about companies like Colt and Springfield.
Personally it's my opinion that one of the reasons stock 1911's are so expensive is because of the taxes on guns. Most people don't realize that manufacturers pay 10% off the top straight to .gov for the pleasure of being able to produce a handgun.
@@ChambersCustom But, if that was the reason, shouldn't we see Glocks, Sigs, M&P all being that expensive? Even bigger "custom" production companies like Wilson and Nighthawk jacked up their prices significantly before covid and they have big production facilities with machinery. Logic dictates that economics of scale lower cost for them, but somehow that saving isn't pass onto the consumers. And, that would be fine if the price maintained. But, they actually increased it. An example of it was Wilson's EDC X9, when it first came out, it was slightly under 3k, but now it's almost 5k and they are using less hands on method to produce the same results. We are clearly not paying for the extra hands-on craftsmenship. At that price point, we can have a true custom gunsmith build us our dream 1911.
@@Darren_Tay it is part of the reason. The other parts include, the cost of parts for a 1911 are typically MUCH higher than any of the other options you mention. Then there is the fact that even the semi-custom 1911s you see me review have 5-10 times (if not more) labor into them. And I could go on with other reasons but I'd probably veer off into topics that are unpleasant for others to have to ponder like the fact that many of these makers are charging the consumer as much as you are willing to pay for external cosmetics all while believing that the buyer won't shoot more than 500 rounds through it ever...and yes, that is something one company owner has told me personally several times.
Why would it not feed hps? Other than .330 being a bit shallow? Are you saying there is a better way to cut a frame ramp than 1/2 endmill at 31 degrees? Besides going to .370-.380 depth? Is there a better way to do it? BTW, love the video. Could you start poking some stuff with a Rockwell tester too maybe? Lots of people talk about slide hardness, but rarely see test results.
It won't feed them because of the angle and width. Yes, there is a better way to cut the frame ramp. No, I don't have plans of poking my NIB 1951 Colt with an RC tester.
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Great job Joe! This is nicely done and well thought out! I enjoyed the video a lot! Hope to see you all soon.
I understand inflation but, shouldn't quality 1911s still be under 1K? I mean, considering how much technology has advanced as far as manufacturing, automation and energy efficiency. If they lower the price you'll sell way more and make more money than they're currently making. I'm not talking about independent, small and specialized shops like Chambers. I'm talking about companies like Colt and Springfield.
Personally it's my opinion that one of the reasons stock 1911's are so expensive is because of the taxes on guns. Most people don't realize that manufacturers pay 10% off the top straight to .gov for the pleasure of being able to produce a handgun.
@@ChambersCustom Oh, yeah. I do remember you mentioning that previously.
@@ChambersCustom But, if that was the reason, shouldn't we see Glocks, Sigs, M&P all being that expensive? Even bigger "custom" production companies like Wilson and Nighthawk jacked up their prices significantly before covid and they have big production facilities with machinery. Logic dictates that economics of scale lower cost for them, but somehow that saving isn't pass onto the consumers. And, that would be fine if the price maintained. But, they actually increased it. An example of it was Wilson's EDC X9, when it first came out, it was slightly under 3k, but now it's almost 5k and they are using less hands on method to produce the same results. We are clearly not paying for the extra hands-on craftsmenship. At that price point, we can have a true custom gunsmith build us our dream 1911.
@@Darren_Tay it is part of the reason. The other parts include, the cost of parts for a 1911 are typically MUCH higher than any of the other options you mention. Then there is the fact that even the semi-custom 1911s you see me review have 5-10 times (if not more) labor into them. And I could go on with other reasons but I'd probably veer off into topics that are unpleasant for others to have to ponder like the fact that many of these makers are charging the consumer as much as you are willing to pay for external cosmetics all while believing that the buyer won't shoot more than 500 rounds through it ever...and yes, that is something one company owner has told me personally several times.
In the 1980's colt QC on the 1911 gm was terrible.
1985 was when the Marine Corps changed over. Great video.
My shooter now days Clark heavy slide 5 inch. Bought in 1982. $759 new from Clark.
Love his review, excellent specs and overview. But the lighting should have been better to show off that beautiful finish
Thank you for your work, Mr. Chambers!
How do you see 2020's production Colts available in shops today, generaly speaking?
They are ok. I'd take a 1951 though.
I own a 1954 National MATCH. Serial number 3 digit below 500. Lost box and papers. A shooter for many years. Bullseye shooter. Paid $350. New in 1969
It seems most shops stuggle to build, what Colt was able to do in the 1950s.
That is a cool piece of history there.
Love these by the numbers videos. Please do more of them. Maybe some Springfields, Les Baer 😆, or whatever. Good job Joe
Why would it not feed hps? Other than .330 being a bit shallow? Are you saying there is a better way to cut a frame ramp than 1/2 endmill at 31 degrees? Besides going to .370-.380 depth? Is there a better way to do it? BTW, love the video. Could you start poking some stuff with a Rockwell tester too maybe? Lots of people talk about slide hardness, but rarely see test results.
It won't feed them because of the angle and width. Yes, there is a better way to cut the frame ramp. No, I don't have plans of poking my NIB 1951 Colt with an RC tester.
very cool
Wow
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