Hybe and source music should give them vocal training instead of giving them hard choreographies. The choreography is like they are going to be dead after performing. I did not expect like this from such a big company.
@@Blink4everr- Or have a balance of songs with harder vocal and easier dances & some with harder choreo and easier vocal, that would also let them train both without having to only have easy choreo
@@-karma-2426 Not that easy by easy I meant something which will give them break in between song & they can stable their breath & take oxygen...............Its so hard to sing while dancing also I don't mind if groups lipsync ....they can use backtrack to support vocals yk but kpop fans will hate them on that too ....even on easy dancing
They are a performance based group. The members that can sing well are the vocal line and the members that don’t are literally not The Vocal line of the group💀
@@ashakiamira5775 lmao, like seriously, no hate but, there are many talented ppls who couldn't be idols bec of their face or age. These days companies go for beauty than talent,
@@La-PetitMortWhat does racism has ANYTHING to do with this lol?! Have a look at how idols are chewed up by Knetz with bad Korean pronounciations It should go both ways Good pronounciations are expected if you're a singer and especially chose a English phrase
Sakura was trained in Japan for most of her life and they don’t train vocals in AKB or to the standards in kpop. So it’s difficult or impossible for her to change her habits like her nasally sound.
Quote from Xiumin to the trainees at SM : To be honest , Dancing is not that important.Singing is the most important. If u cant sing well , no matter how good u are at dancing you won't look talented.
@@indefenseoflesserafimyeah lol I always say this... SM stans are delulu on next level😅 they have tried to shove down this false narrative about their so called SM idols' vocals who don't even dare to sing live😅 you just say a good vocalist name from any gen then a delulu SM stan will come to you blabbering nonsense about how that one SM vocalist from that gen is better than the whole gen lol😅 But seems like now people are seeing through the reality
@@indefenseoflesserafim that was like one cover she messed up in her TEN YEAR career. theres also videos of her singing love on top w/o messing it up. even predebut wendy outsings entirety of lsfm lmao🤷♀️
@@m.ismineallmineWow, you must be comfortable living in this world. You are satisfied with this. They are not dancing or singing properly. Their job is not to do volunteer work, but to sing well.
@@user-lz7dt4br4o Their singing and dancing are perfect but you are jealous, Most likely your voice will be ugly and not suitable for singing, so it is better for you to remain silent
Well Sakura has the heaviest accent out of them all. Despite being in Korea so long she revealed she still speaks more Japanese than Korean and because of this I think that she likely will always have a hard time pronouncing anything because her specific accent is very hard to talk around. For context she basically has the Japans equivalent of a USA thick Slow country accent. She sounds allot better when she can speak slowly or sing slowly, and she also sounds even better when she can sing slowly in her native language. The faster paste of Korean leaves her struggling with pronunciation, pitch, and key. It’s much harder to learn to sing in another language than it is to sing in your native
@@xdinaryrain thinking someone’s ponunciation is cute or just funny isn’t racism.Racism is pretty different and you shouldn’t even be thinking we’re serious.
How is it a accomplishment… most idols sing a dance the fact her company has her lip sync is crazy and when she does sing live it’s terrible.. people criticize alot of pointless things when it comes to idols but vocals should be one thing criticized new jeans , ive , itzy, aespa all have members with amazing vocal abilities Le serrafim is lacking that they shouldve kept garam in all honesty
Yes, not really that amazing but at least she's more confident and stable. And whats more, she has only 2 years of experiences yet so obviously she has more rooms for improvements in the future. Meanwhile sakura has debuted 3 times with the overall 10 years of experiences but she still sings horribly. Looks like there is almost no hope for her anymore 🙃
Hybe is allergic to vocal training Edit: I haven’t read the replies but judging from the amount of replies and likes I’m gonna assume I probably hurt some stans’ feelings
@@indefenseoflesserafimur so mad for no reason?? no one even talked bad about the group its js the company needs better vocal training so they can do better when live singing
@@itzxxrikuxxwho said they don’t get vocal training what’s wrong with u that’s Sakura voice she needs an hiatus to rest and do masters class the rest girls are pretty okay nothing bad here
Why can't Hybe give them songs that fit their vocal range/voice YUNJIN IS NOT FOR LOW NOTES SAME WITH CHAEWON, because if you'll listen to the song that Yunjin wrote herself she sounds so good why? Because she knows her vocal range but Le Sserafims agency seems to ignore that just to have a catchy song
@@YangGatchaliannot to this extent, 10x better than her. Remember Momo's mistake during encore? after that there wasn't a problem anymore because of discipline and hardwork. Sakura just throw all the criticism/advice to her because she said she don't want to mind the negativity hah😂 that's good if it's in the good side but this? She just want the 💰 no improvement because at the end of the day she have 💰
if people say oh she improved a lot, she got better, but this is what they say improve a lot? that means indirectly whether the standard of kpop idols is this bad now, as if even a back dancer can be an idol, or maybe just because you are beautiful you can be called a "singer" , Be realistic, they have already debuted, which means they should be ready, not still at the learning stage, they are no longer trainees
When Sakura was in iz*one there was nothing wrong with her vocals. What happened to Sakura in Le Sserafim? I hope our beloved Kkura can stabilize her vocals! We love her!
In izone she don't have much line bc of alot of members and izone have one of the best vocal line so it cover her mistakes and even I check there encore in izone her most line are so less and even easy to sing
They always sing lives in concert. In studio, they rarely sing live and we still don't know why even some of the members are really stable. As for Sakura, after IZ*ONE disband, she went to Japan and graduated from HKT48. She sang a song from IZ*ONE, Yume wo Miteiru Aida, she sang it with Nako and both of them did the highnote part. Sakura seems a lil bit struggle but still, she handled it well. But it was better when she's in IZ*ONE and HKT48 compared to Le Sserafim in terms of vocal. In Le Sserafim, I guess she focus more on dancing skills. Soumu really need to train them vocally since I heard they'll perform at coachella😢@@lilliz12
@@WonysVicky gurl I'm not bullying her nor do I hate her I'm a genuine fan of lesserafim but this is true she needs vocal lessons this didn't happen once nor twice 😭😭 at least other members are getting better but Sakura needs vocal lessons asap and you can't defend her with this one
Kazuha seems more comfortable in this lower range than the other girls. Of course shes standing still, but shes improved from her last encore stage a ton
@@user5c33fvjfua theyre idols. they are expected to dance and sing live at the same time and yet when they are STANDING they dont even sound good. have you heard kazuha in mr removed videos?? most of the time she isnt even trying to sing! just syncing along
Ok, now i'll ask you. Have you ever learn english? Are you good in english or your pronounciation in english is good? If you're not, just keep quiet. Your comment is suck and sakura working hard for this song
@@bornblink6448 아뇨 아직 발전이 없어요 아이즈원으로 데뷔했는데 아직 보컬 실력이 많이 부족한 것 같아요. 그 점에서는 발전이 없고 춤만 좋아진 것 같아요! 그녀는 BIG4에 속해 있어요. 그보다 더 좋을 거라고 기대해요 i’m sorry but come on now She Needs improvement fr it’s not even a joke
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ즐거우세요? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아 즐거우시냐고요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 무대 찢으실 수 있죠? ㅎ
This coment! HAHAHAHA all the fans are praising them despite the VERY BAD SINGING TALENT. Hahaha. Sometimes the world becomes so hard to live in, the right seems wrong, the wrong seems right, norma becom abnormal and crazier the better, you get lost around it.. HAHAHA.. lesserefam Living the privilige life to the fullest! Although they are really beautiful and sexy and good dancers.. 😅
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Hybe and source music should give them vocal training instead of giving them hard choreographies. The choreography is like they are going to be dead after performing. I did not expect like this from such a big company.
Company should give groups easy Cherograpy so they can focus on both singing & dancing
@@Blink4everr- Or have a balance of songs with harder vocal and easier dances & some with harder choreo and easier vocal, that would also let them train both without having to only have easy choreo
@@-karma-2426 Not that easy by easy I meant something which will give them break in between song & they can stable their breath & take oxygen...............Its so hard to sing while dancing also I don't mind if groups lipsync ....they can use backtrack to support vocals yk but kpop fans will hate them on that too ....even on easy dancing
@@Blink4everr- Oooh okay, I completely agree 👍
They are a performance based group. The members that can sing well are the vocal line and the members that don’t are literally not The Vocal line of the group💀
Rip vocals even if they're not dancing
So true like they are not even dancing man 🕺 😔
(No hate)
LOUDER!! 😂
@@ashakiamira5775 lmao, like seriously, no hate but, there are many talented ppls who couldn't be idols bec of their face or age. These days companies go for beauty than talent,
@@user-zz5zx5gd5l this is mr removed
SAY IT LOUDER
해외팬들도 드디어 심각성을 알기시작한건가
Yes
@@HAMKA96아니요 그건 르세라핌 소속사에서 돈을 썼기 때문입니다. 비리입니다. 대중들과 회사가 싸우고 있습니다. 멋대로 판단하지 마세요 한국인들도 화가 나있습니다.
@@HAMKA96ㅋㅋ 그투표가 공정하다고 믿는 사람이 몇이나 될까... 오디션 프로그램 '프로듀스'에서 순위조작한거 걸려서 pd고발 당한 사건도 있는 나라인데ㅋㅋㅋ
@@HAMKA96IZ*ONE, where Kim Chae-won and Sakura belonged, also had vote rigging. Fans' votes are meaningless
@@HAMKA96 해외팬들도 투표합니다. 항상 한국인 탓 하는 거 지겹지 않나요?
Sakura's English pronunciation really made me cry☠️
LOL
What a weird thing to say .
Racism is so cute😍😍
KEKQKMFKWNFKQMFJWKFNKWFNKWNFNWNDJDJDJKDJD
@@La-PetitMortWhat does racism has ANYTHING to do with this lol?!
Have a look at how idols are chewed up by Knetz with bad Korean pronounciations
It should go both ways
Good pronounciations are expected if you're a singer and especially chose a English phrase
zuha sounds quite good here, i wonder why we barely heard her live during performances lately
she CANT sing while dancing, thats the answer.
The dance is very hard!
@@Ellaum no, easy is one of their slightly better choreographies. Granted, its not THAT easy but still.. Don't use the hard choreo excuse.
@@viclusivshe cant sing*
@@pinkcattoits not hard but its more jumpy and groovy, lots of hops and body rolls.
They need to go back to having the idols in these camps for 8 years because 😭
HELP
FRRR
Sakura was trained in Japan for most of her life and they don’t train vocals in AKB or to the standards in kpop. So it’s difficult or impossible for her to change her habits like her nasally sound.
@@alexandrahuangoh it’s possible, she just needs a good vocal coach and discipline. She won’t be a great vocalist but at least she will be in key.
@@alexandrahuang nasality is one of the easiest things to fix if u anatomically understand it tbh
끝말 다같이 큰소리로 부르는거 진짜 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Quote from Xiumin to the trainees at SM : To be honest , Dancing is not that important.Singing is the most important. If u cant sing well , no matter how good u are at dancing you won't look talented.
kazuha seems like such a fast learner😮 between improving alot in singing, learning korean so quickly, dancing professionally, girls a multi-threat
Ikr wish she had waited and trained she LITREALLY would have been so much better than she is right now
i sometimes forget shes japanese🧍♀️
She is not Korean?
@@indefenseoflesserafimyeah lol I always say this... SM stans are delulu on next level😅 they have tried to shove down this false narrative about their so called SM idols' vocals who don't even dare to sing live😅 you just say a good vocalist name from any gen then a delulu SM stan will come to you blabbering nonsense about how that one SM vocalist from that gen is better than the whole gen lol😅
But seems like now people are seeing through the reality
@@indefenseoflesserafim that was like one cover she messed up in her TEN YEAR career. theres also videos of her singing love on top w/o messing it up. even predebut wendy outsings entirety of lsfm lmao🤷♀️
Even Chaewon was laughing when Sakura said "Yeah aruu maki rook easyy"💀
I thought they were joking around lol
Chaewon is over her members singing skills loll
UAHAHAHAHAH
Maki rook😭😭😭🤣
Can't defend that 😂😂😂😂
가수라는건 노래를 잘 하는 직업입니다
سمعينا صوتك؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
يعني انتي عاجبك اللي سمعتيه؟@@m.ismineallmine
@@laila3651 ايوا صوتهم مو بهذيك البشاعة، بس الكوارية مايعجبهم العجب! يدمرون الفنان!
@@m.ismineallmineWow, you must be comfortable living in this world. You are satisfied with this. They are not dancing or singing properly. Their job is not to do volunteer work, but to sing well.
@@user-lz7dt4br4o Their singing and dancing are perfect but you are jealous, Most likely your voice will be ugly and not suitable for singing, so it is better for you to remain silent
사쿠라는 뭐라 하는 거여? 일어여 영어여?
에아루이루메키루이즤
다른 멤버들은 모르겠고 사쿠라는 노래말고 발음 먼저 연습해야할 듯
Well Sakura has the heaviest accent out of them all. Despite being in Korea so long she revealed she still speaks more Japanese than Korean and because of this I think that she likely will always have a hard time pronouncing anything because her specific accent is very hard to talk around. For context she basically has the Japans equivalent of a USA thick Slow country accent. She sounds allot better when she can speak slowly or sing slowly, and she also sounds even better when she can sing slowly in her native language. The faster paste of Korean leaves her struggling with pronunciation, pitch, and key. It’s much harder to learn to sing in another language than it is to sing in your native
@@Bunnybunny5656그럼 꼬우면 한국에서 데뷔말고 일본에서 하던가 ㅋㅋ 욕심은 많아가지고 ㅋㅋ 노력은 안하고 ㅋㅋ
알겠습니다,
Racist.
@@j.m_jlee wdym???
어떻게 단 한명도 음정이 맞질 않냐
관두라고.. 백댄서 좋잖아...
누가 그러던데,
르세라핌은 보결트레이너는 없구
멘탈트레이너 있다고
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
스우파 나가서 성공할 수 있는데..
Honestly Kazuha isn’t even that bad she improved a lot imo
I have to agree! She's good actually.
she’s a fast learner
yea i agree
I agree!
Who said shes bad???😾
Sakura's pronunciation got me rolling 😂
@@sappyzapnot knowing a language very well ≠ racism
@@sappyzapthat ain’t racism bro-
It's not racism the commenter is mocking her prononciation
@@xdinaryrain thinking someone’s ponunciation is cute or just funny isn’t racism.Racism is pretty different and you shouldn’t even be thinking we’re serious.
@@xdinaryrain racism is a serious thing and not even funny
드디어 해외팬들도 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 뽀록
Sure they need seriously vocal training.
아이돌하기 참 easy 하쥬?
"무시마 내가걸어온 커리어"
무시마 내가 걸어온 커리어(당시1년도 안됨)
탈부착식 커리어
탈부착 커리어 ㅇㅈㄹ ㅋㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋ
"무시마 방시혁이 깔아준 아우토반"
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ아 개웃기네 탈부착 커리어
kazuha's vocals are really stable when she's not dancing
edit: guys calm down in the comments I was just making an observation 😭😭
its supposed to be stable when they are standing bro😭 she cant sing while dancing
That's not an accomplishment
she is the only lsfm member lip syncing while dancing, she knew she would sound horrible but atleast others are trying
How is it a accomplishment… most idols sing a dance the fact her company has her lip sync is crazy and when she does sing live it’s terrible.. people criticize alot of pointless things when it comes to idols but vocals should be one thing criticized new jeans , ive , itzy, aespa all have members with amazing vocal abilities Le serrafim is lacking that they shouldve kept garam in all honesty
WHAT???
이건 너무 충격인데
I can't 😂😂this comment is Soo funny 😂😂
@@veealexWhy-
물론 저 보단 노래도 잘 부르고 인물도 좋겠지만...
가만히 서가지고 부르는데 시발 어케 저러냐ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 맨날 ㅈㄴ 열심히 준비 했다면서 할말이없음
사쿠라 시발진짜 뭐하는데 ㅋㅋㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㄱㅋㄱㅋㅋㄱㅋㅋ아오
Lmao😭
예아 루이루 메큐 루 이지~~~~
아니 연습생도 아닌데 지금 늘고있다는건 뭐얒ㅋㅋㅋㅋ연습생때는 놀았나
Kazuha improved so much!!
lets be honest and not lie, she did not for sure improve she’s still very bad and maybe became even worse than before
@@esterrviix i dont think shes gotten worse but she definitely needs to improve some more
@@esterrviixbeing honest it's the best mr removed of her I have listened to. Not the best but she did improve a lot
@@esterrviixi wouldnt say that she’s still very bad but i do agree that she needs to kinda improve some more
@@esterrviixgirl she did improve
독기 광고했으면서 공주처럼 대해주니까 열정, 파워, 독기, 영어 실렼ㅋㅋ 모든 게 없다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
sakura doesnt seem like the type to take critiques seriously / willing to improve.
or maybe she doesn't have the ability to up her vocal game so... 😞
she said that at least we had fun and concert was supposed to be fun right? to her fans after coachella disaster so yeah
she would rather do crochet and I'm so sick of it like....I've been a fan of her since PD48...
@@mewsao i guess ‘fun with amazing performance’ would be good tho
허윤진이 메인보컬이란게 놀라울 따름..
와 진짜요...?
윤진게이야 페미니스트 책 읽을 시간에 노래 연습이나 해라 ㅋㅋ
진심 개못하는데
@@Sungerum885근데 그 책은 이미 외국에서 젊은 여자들이 많이 읽는 틱톡감성 책임 틱톡에 제목만 쳐도 엄청 나옴
ㄴㄴ 르세라핌에 공식적인 포지션은 없습니다!! 그저 허윤진이 그나마 잘 해보인다고 메보라고 시청자들이 그런거죠 😂😅
카즈하가 사쿠라보다 노래 잘하는거 실화냐..😮
Of course!😊
He's more confident and more stable.
@@SweetJNNshe*
Yes, not really that amazing but at least she's more confident and stable. And whats more, she has only 2 years of experiences yet so obviously she has more rooms for improvements in the future. Meanwhile sakura has debuted 3 times with the overall 10 years of experiences but she still sings horribly. Looks like there is almost no hope for her anymore 🙃
사쿠라는 영어를 향상시켜야합니다
진짜 진심으로 내가 불러도 저거보다 잘부를자신이있다
oh god I don't understand how they win awards for singing so badly. I am from IU and Taeyeon Generation. and these girls just make me cry 😔
They didn't won awards for their vocal they won for their song
아니 사쿠라 너무한거 아닌가 딴건 모르겠고 카즈하도 이 영상에서 양소리 안나는데 사쿠라 양소리는 진짜 못들어주겠다
양소리 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
하하하하 그건 사실이야 가끔 그렇게 들리는데
중딩들이 코노가서 부르는거 옆방에서 듣는느낌 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
중딩도 저정도로 부르면 코노 안 간다;;;
중딩 무시하노
걔네가 더 잘부를수도
😂😂😂😂
베이비몬스터로 갈아탄다 ㅋㅋ
너의 문제.
@@akdns 응 그러던 말던 대히트쳤쥬 ㅋㅋ
@@akdns나도 레세라핌은 보컬이 똥이라서 보지도 듣지도 않는다😂
@@akdns 지랄하네
지금 멜론 16위 ㅉ
Jyp쪽 아이돌로 ㄱㄱ
슈화가 이그룹 가면 최고실력자되겠네
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 슈화는 심지어 개연습해서 보완하던데 진짜 슈화보고 배워라 얘들아 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
팀내 하위권에서 중위권정도는 갈 수 있을듯
그건 씹소리고 사쿠라만 이김
슈화가 발음이 문제지 노래는 잘 부름… 한국어로 부르면 톤도 안 맞고 발음에 신경쓰느라 노래를 잘 못하는듯… 저번에 자국어로 노래하는거 듣고 진짜 깜짝 놀람… 슈화 아닌줄 알았음…
@@whyranomynickname잘부르긴 개뿔
Hybe is allergic to vocal training
Edit: I haven’t read the replies but judging from the amount of replies and likes I’m gonna assume I probably hurt some stans’ feelings
@@indefenseoflesserafimBro said "slash" like those two are interchangeable
@@indefenseoflesserafimur so mad for no reason?? no one even talked bad about the group its js the company needs better vocal training so they can do better when live singing
FRRR like cmon give them some training 😭
@indefenseoflesserafim THE FACT ur singers can't sing, ur artist charts are like a made up joke. curse me now
@@itzxxrikuxxwho said they don’t get vocal training what’s wrong with u that’s Sakura voice she needs an hiatus to rest and do masters class the rest girls are pretty okay nothing bad here
사쿠라 발음 너무 웃김ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 약간 할머니 스타일이야
Why can't Hybe give them songs that fit their vocal range/voice YUNJIN IS NOT FOR LOW NOTES SAME WITH CHAEWON, because if you'll listen to the song that Yunjin wrote herself she sounds so good why? Because she knows her vocal range but Le Sserafims agency seems to ignore that just to have a catchy song
Blah Blah!!!
격한 춤 추면서 노래가 심각한건 좀 힘들수 있다고 생각은 했어도 좀 그랬는데 가만히 서서도 노래실력들이 저 정도면 너무 심각하네.. 아이돌 어떻게된건지 궁금해지는 실력이네
You can go to see BABYMONSTER’s live stage.
@@sukanjira5409Baby Monster sings very well
요즘 아이돌 다 이러더라 ㅋㅋㅋ
외국인들도 사쿠라보고 놀란 거 웃기다ㅋㅋ 사쿠라는 무려 데뷔한 지 10년 넘은 아이돌인데 저러니 놀랍긴 하겠지
Los extranjeros nos sorprendemos por ver a Sakura cantando muy mal a pesar de haber debutado hace 10 años.😂😂😂
Not only sakura, they all sound terrible
@@Imsanieits not
@@Imsanie i agree, the only hope is yunjin and chaewon. in pd48 yunjins voice is really good, but idk why in her new group she sounds so unstable
@@honeymoonavenue20while your grown self is hating she’s still making that bag 💀
개콘보다 꿀잼이누ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Vocal training ❌
abs training ✅
so true..😂
어케 카즈하가 사쿠라보다 잘 부르냐? ㅋㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋ 커리어 어따 팔아먹었냐…
Gosh sakura’s vocals even when standing still 💀😭Hybe needs to get them vocal trainers ASAP.
FR😭
what sad about this is that we know every studio version of her part probably got much editing, feels like a scam honestly :(
and kinda unfair
Of course they have trainers. Shes probably not trying hard enough or hopeless
Not defending Hybe but ain't every kpop company have vocal trainings?
@@YangGatchaliannot to this extent, 10x better than her. Remember Momo's mistake during encore? after that there wasn't a problem anymore because of discipline and hardwork. Sakura just throw all the criticism/advice to her because she said she don't want to mind the negativity hah😂 that's good if it's in the good side but this? She just want the 💰 no improvement because at the end of the day she have 💰
사쿠라 어떡하냐… 영어부분 진짜 ㅜㅜ
How they became idols even if they can't sing while standing still !!????
예아루유메큐룩? 뭔말이에요..?
아니 그래도 카즈하는 서 있으니까 좀 부르는 거 괜찮은데 사쿠라는 그냥 가만히 서있어서 부르는 노래가 저러면……에바
카즈하 사쿠라가 문제가 아니라 그냥 아이돌의 90퍼는 가창력이 안되는데 뭘 비교를 하노…김세정 왈 : 아이돌은 가창이력이 떯어져도 된다 대신 들켜선 안된다. 으휴
@@user-fz6jt3tj8n들켰잖아
@@user-fz6jt3tj8n 맞긴 함 사실 나도 그 생각이긴 한데 너무 까기만 하면 르세라핌 팬들 몰려올까봐 저렇게 쓴 ..ㅋㅋㅋ
14년차가 연습생 반년한테 지는게에바
Todos se oyen con problema porque solo atacan a zakura... es envidia?
MV: 💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
Vocal : sorry I’m leaving …..
You are talking about kazuha, chaewon, yunjin?
@@al_issawy
only vocal 🤣🤣🤣
Vocal is important 💯
@@user-qi4fd2ni6j i think you deaf.. i agree with Sakura but not the others
아이고ㅠㅠ 코첼라도 그렇고 이제 공중파에서 앵콜무대 할때마다 계속 신경쓰면서 부르겟내ㅠㅠ
idk they make me want to cry 😢
카즈하는 금방 늘겠다 애초에 혼자만 음역대가 맞는 것도 있는 것 같지만
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
도대체 금방이 언제임? 데뷔때부터 금방 는다 했는데
@@user-tm5ey2ti8hwhat??
@@user-tm5ey2ti8h데뷔 초때보다 확실히 늘었음 ㅇㅇ.. 사쿠라는 가망이없고
@@user-kv8zn3gj8jㅇㅈ
ㅅ바 이게 4세대 케이팝을 대표하는 아이돌이라고..?? 진짜 너무 쪽팔려..코첼라 어떡하냐 진짜ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
얘네 코첼라 감?
@@la8955
하하..최근에 처참하게 다 뽀록났죠..
내 릴스 알고리즘 르세라핌 mr제거에 스며들음 어카노
버츄얼아이돌가수가 나와서 노래부르고 1등할때 세상말세라고 생각햇는데. 애내 하는꼬라지보니까 이세돌이 진짜가수임. 그리고 르세라핌같은 핵폐기물들은 일본에서 Jpop딱지 붙여서 활동하는게 맞는거같음.
바둑왕 이세돌 ㄷㄷ
and sakura says she feels sad when people say she can’t sing!! ok. gurl!! 💀💀
LMAOOOO Sakura is a dancer but she sounds fine here
절대로 춤 때문에 그런다는 핑계는 못하게 되는 영상
😂😂
Can't believe they disbanded gfriend just to debut these clowns
사쿠라는 도대체 몇년차인데도.. 실력이 저래..? 모카 염소?보다 심한데..
카즈하는 늘었네
사쿠라는 적어도 음정만 이라도 맞춰라..
저실력으로 코첼라라니….진짜 국격이 떨어진다…
아니 걍 처참함 ㅈㄴ
미친.. 코첼라? 아 진짜 대리 수치 오진다.. 케이팝 다 망치네
기획사 빨 아니었으면 이정도까지 뜨지도 못했을 실력들..
요즘은 코첼나도 다 ar 깔고 함 ar 깔아놓고 잘했다고 빨아주겠지ㅋㅋ
괜찮아 일본에 뒤집어씌우자.
as far as I can hear, the only ones whose songs are in tune only Kazuha😢
if people say oh she improved a lot, she got better, but this is what they say improve a lot? that means indirectly whether the standard of kpop idols is this bad now, as if even a back dancer can be an idol, or maybe just because you are beautiful you can be called a "singer" , Be realistic, they have already debuted, which means they should be ready, not still at the learning stage, they are no longer trainees
학교에서 장기자랑할 때도 저것보다는 더 잘부르는 애들 꼭 있었는데...
😂😂
걔네 올리는게 차라리 나을 정도…
저거보다 못부르기 힘듬.. 발음도 엉망 음정도 엉망.. 잼민이들이 코노에서 불러도 80프로는 저것보다 잘부름
When Sakura was in iz*one there was nothing wrong with her vocals. What happened to Sakura in Le Sserafim? I hope our beloved Kkura can stabilize her vocals! We love her!
In izone she don't have much line bc of alot of members and izone have one of the best vocal line so it cover her mistakes and even I check there encore in izone her most line are so less and even easy to sing
She was the rapper there
Izone barely sang live
They always sing lives in concert. In studio, they rarely sing live and we still don't know why even some of the members are really stable. As for Sakura, after IZ*ONE disband, she went to Japan and graduated from HKT48. She sang a song from IZ*ONE, Yume wo Miteiru Aida, she sang it with Nako and both of them did the highnote part. Sakura seems a lil bit struggle but still, she handled it well. But it was better when she's in IZ*ONE and HKT48 compared to Le Sserafim in terms of vocal. In Le Sserafim, I guess she focus more on dancing skills. Soumu really need to train them vocally since I heard they'll perform at coachella😢@@lilliz12
She barely sang in izone but you’re kind of right..
Why don't they understand that in any music video...vocals are the most important part.
Sounds like those performances in America got talent when the judges are too shocked to even make a facial expression.
사쿠라 중간에 발음 예루룩 메잌룩 이지 이거머냐...??
Sakura 💀💀 what are you doing gurl
Poor baby 😂
Just bc she didn't do good means you get to bully and hate on her? She was probably tired
@@WonysVicky gurl I'm not bullying her nor do I hate her I'm a genuine fan of lesserafim but this is true she needs vocal lessons this didn't happen once nor twice 😭😭 at least other members are getting better but Sakura needs vocal lessons asap and you can't defend her with this one
@@WonysVicky how the hell is that hate?
@istolejisoofromdalgom I misunderstood, can I not? Also I agree I just thought you were hating. Sorry
Kazuha seems more comfortable in this lower range than the other girls. Of course shes standing still, but shes improved from her last encore stage a ton
Kazuha improved so muchhh
사쿠라 음치아냐 …..
ㄹㅇ 내 친구보다 못 부르는거 같음..
아니요, 그녀는 귀머거리가 아닙니다! 그냥 실수야 세상이 끝난 것처럼 말하지 마 발음이 틀려 🤦♀️
@@keenzzenwhat r u even saying💀
@@keenzzen발음이야 고치면 된다하지만 저 흔들리는 음정들은 어떡하죠..😢 사쿠라는 분명 노래 연습이 적었던것도 아닐텐데
@@user-pw4pr7yg2v 브로커가 나쁘면 내 잘못이 아닙니다.
but they are not dancing while singing the encore but still sound like,???......
kazuha is actually getting better at live vocals, Im proud of her!!
Zuha’s vocals improved so much!!
근데 카즈하는 좀 노력하는게 보인다 발레를 해서 그런가? 근데 사쿠라는.. 답이 없는듯 노력도 안하는거같음 그냥 안무나 겨우 숙지하는 듯 딴 거 할 시간에 노래 연습이나 했으면 좋겠음 사쿠라나 은채나..
카즈하는 많이 연습하고 실력도 는 게 보이는데 사쿠라는 아이돌 경력만 몇 년인데 왜 실력은 그대로인거야......
사쿠라성대가 애초에 말할때도 떨리는 약한성대여서 연습이 문제가 아님... 춤도 처음춤추던거보면 혹독하게 연습한거티날정도로 장족의발전을했는데 노래라고 연습을 안했을까싶음 개인적으로 사쿠라는 많이 안타까울정도임 웬만한사람보다 어릴때부터 노력엄청하고 다녔는데
저게 많이 늘은 거죠 ㅋㅋㅋ
사쿠라가 노력 안했을 리는 없고 그냥 타고나길 음치인 것 같음
존나심각하다 ㅋㅋ
팩트 개슬프넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 노력은 했다고ㅠㅠ@@user-pz3li9rv7d
The amount of vocal experts in every thread about lesserafim is astonishing
Taeyeon - Fine : totally not fine😭 (the lyrics)
Le sserafim - Easy : totally not easy🙂 (for them to sing)
Kazuha really improved she sounds solid and supported here
Sakura
cause she isnt dancing 💀
@@formithicappl are hating on sakura for not sounding good while standing. this video is them singing while standing…that’s the point
@@formithica Cause the choreography has a lot of jumping movements so it's obviously gonna be hard.
@@user5c33fvjfua theyre idols. they are expected to dance and sing live at the same time and yet when they are STANDING they dont even sound good. have you heard kazuha in mr removed videos?? most of the time she isnt even trying to sing! just syncing along
Sakura's japanese accent hit at the wrong time 🫡😭😭😭
This is not Japanese accent.
Just her original🌸Sakura accent😂
soooo terrible🧟
@@___cea6903 "her" japanese accent, doesn't sound terrible, just messed up the way it was supposed to be sung haha.
완벽한 음치~
They don't deserve bullying but i also didn't deserve getting my ears bleed because of this singing 😭
다른건 몰라도 적어도 박자 음정은 맞춰 줘야 가수 아니냐....?
예에ㅔ루리메킨루 이즤~~ 이러네 사쿠라 ㅅㅂㅋ ㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ똑같다 ㅁㅊㅋㅋㅋ
사쿠라는 영어발음도 좀 연습해라.... 진지하게 뜨개질 할 시간에 미드를 보거나 영어사전을 읽어
😭😭
예리룰루매키루이지~
true
@@user-sjqkqsl ㅁㅊ ㅋㅋㅋ 개똑같누 ㅋㅋ
@@user-sjqkqslㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ개웃기네
I just feel like how did no one not notice for this long 😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
Kazuha IMPROVED, or maybe she sounds better when she is relaxed
"yeah i ruli make it look easy" 💀
Do it better🙀🙀
Perfect english😍😭
rook
ruli 😂😂
out of all things you chose to criticise her accent............. says a lot about you!
카즈하는 는 것 같은데??? 사쿠라는 발음부터 좀 ㅜㅜ연습해야 할 듯
ㄹㅇ
Sakura has been long in this industry but she hasn't improved yet
Sakura's debut was 13 years ago...
사쿠라 다른것도 문제지만 영어발음 진짜.....
노래는 못해도 발음은 제대로 할 수 있는거아니야...?
Ok, now i'll ask you. Have you ever learn english? Are you good in english or your pronounciation in english is good? If you're not, just keep quiet. Your comment is suck and sakura working hard for this song
카즈하는 ㅋㅋㅋ 데뷔초보다 나아진것같은데
한국데뷔 6년차된 사쿠라는 도대체 ㅋㅋㅋ 언제 나아지는거냐 저정도면 노래연습자체를 안한거고
아니면 그냥 진짜노래에 소질이없는거거나 연습을 안하는건데
저 실력으로 데뷔했다는것자체가 의문이다진짜
말할때만 봐도 연습으로 어떻게 될 발성이 아님....
she's knitting bruh
예아 루키 루 이지
@@bornblink6448 아뇨 아직 발전이 없어요 아이즈원으로 데뷔했는데 아직 보컬 실력이 많이 부족한 것 같아요. 그 점에서는 발전이 없고 춤만 좋아진 것 같아요! 그녀는 BIG4에 속해 있어요. 그보다 더 좋을 거라고 기대해요
i’m sorry but come on now She Needs improvement fr it’s not even a joke
Kazuha and yunjin's vocals are so stable they IMPROVED ALOT
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ즐거우세요? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아 즐거우시냐고요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 무대 찢으실 수 있죠? ㅎ
다른애들은 그렇다치는데 사쿠라는 미칠 것 같음
Hybe privilege is real life
Hybe privilege is having good songs, but not be able to sing them
Of public*
lmao all their groups but this one sing amazingly live and give top tier performances
@@SisipipoEh. Nwjns are inconsistent but ig they get the bod bc they haven’t been in the industry for over 10 years.
This coment! HAHAHAHA all the fans are praising them despite the VERY BAD SINGING TALENT. Hahaha. Sometimes the world becomes so hard to live in, the right seems wrong, the wrong seems right, norma becom abnormal and crazier the better, you get lost around it.. HAHAHA.. lesserefam
Living the privilige life to the fullest! Although they are really beautiful and sexy and good dancers.. 😅
kazuha isn’t even that bad, she’s improved a lot but SAKURA.. HELP SHE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO BEING A TRAINEE😔
카즈하는 그나마 연습하는거 같은데..사쿠라는 점점 실력이