I went to a very early "Tea Party" event when it was just a couple of guys who'd organized a thing for an upcoming election. They'd laid all of the issues and what both sides said about each issue. People were going from table to table, discussing and debating politely. It was the single best political experience of my life. I was a truck driver at the time who didn't pay much attention to politics. I spent about a year telling people how awesome the Tea Party was and how I'd never vote again without going to another event like that. About a year later, the guys were hosting another event and I went and it was bat-sh*t insane. The friend that I brought turned to me and asked if I'd brought him to a Klan rally
If the tea party had the modern social media platforms back then, the american political atmosphere would have looked exactly like itis now. Rascism, anti-gay/ LGBTQ+, anti-immigrant ideology of the far right has always existed in the US. They know being a bigot is wrong and most hid it. Modern social media gave the movement instant recruiting and vindication to thise likeminded.
This clip is over 10 years old, yet if you told me it was released last month, I would believe you. Even after all these years, it's still *THAT* relevant.
The sad thing is that if released last month, the Tea Party would be the moderate wing of the Republican party. It's crazy to think, but the whole party shifted three time as far right as the Tea Party was when this clip first aired.
The whole clip is basically McAvoy in 2012 describing his fear of what has actually happened by 2022. It’s both crazy and depressing that this was written during what he’s talking about and not after the fact
@@ThrashyThrash The Tea Party began as a Libertarian movement (Ron Paul), but was quickly hijacked by racist elements in Texas...because Obama was only half-white.
@@ThrashyThrash What I hadn't realised prior to watching the show, about a year after it aired, was that the Tea Party originated with some good messages. By the time they were known over here, it was for a lot of the wrong reasons. I don't think though that the whole party has shifted that much, but it was a defining time for the fringe to become the noisiest.
@@fenrisulven5324 yea you're right.. thank God for that lone hero in Vega.. wait... I know, the good guy with the gun in that mall shooting was a cop... that shot the good guy w a gun while the actual bad guy gets away... Hmm.. I'm sure there's an exception that makes the rule.. oh? That's not how it works? Shiiiiit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this show ended to damn early. I would kill to have more of this smart writing and insight. Especially during the epic known as 2020. Will would have gone epiplectic in 2016 and be damn near insane now.
I’d say even if we don’t have a continuation, at least some show which is inspired by the Newsroom. And yes, I’d say it is left ‘liberal’ ( half the people who call themselves liberal don’t know what that means, in my personal experience and I could be wrong)propaganda and what not, but hey! If there is one thing s that has let us down more than anything it is the media-regardless if left,right ,center*
Aaron Sorkin got scared by his elitist democratic friends in media who kept asking "Well, how would you have done it?" so that was the end of that. Even a last attempt of trying to appeal to the "good old American values" couldn't save the show.
@@Gowidafloman If you push a really big building, you move it. Just not very far. Not that I'm surprised liberal progressives don't understand how physics works.
Keep telling the blue collar guy who comes home after working two jobs with a bad back and no money to pay his bills, that he has white male privilege. Tell him that his is to blame for everything that has happened over the last few thousand years and you hate him for it. You wonder why he doesn’t vote for Democrat and longer?
@@fedcoin1602 it's not that he stopped voting Democrat. It's that he started voting for ultra right wing race baiters for whom the GOP used to have no time for, warping the GOP from the principles on which it used to stand: equal opportunity in the workplace, government non interventionism in the economy, and a government that paid its bills. Isolationists could be found in both Democrat and Republican circles. Now it has turned to an open race-baiter, a man openly profiting from public office, a man who cut taxes but increase federal deficits tenfold. Claiming to be a law and order president while seeing increased rioting and violence on his watch and whose Covid 19 policy has been to largely do nothing and pretend that it's not a problem while the death toll spirals. What Trump represents is the death of the Party of Lincoln and the rebirth of the Dixicrats in new garb. The meaning of being a Republican has changed.
Aaron Sorking knew exactly what he was doing when he took on the Teaparty. And he was right. Americans should be scared shitless about whats happening right now. Not only have the extremists taken over the republican party, they are cementing their power by rigging and gerrymandering the shit out of the US election system and putting their people on the supreme court so that whenever they get busted, they get a free pass from their buddies in the judical branch. 11/3 might be the last chance you get to stop that shit. I'm from germany and believe me, we know that shit like nobody else does because we've been through it before.
No, the writers realized it. Literally every Democrat saw it coming before the Republicans realized what was happening with their own party. The left has become the new middle. That’s dangerous in today’s politics because when we should be voting for one solution over another instead we are voting for sane versus insane.
@@xplayman I would just campaign on the issue's that have over 51% in this country. That would be a left populist. If something was lower than 50%, I wouldn't touch it.
What they are talking about with the SDS is in "The Trial of The Chicago 7" with Hoffman and Hayden. Nice to see it has come full circle for Aaron Sorkin. Even same reasoning for how the SDS movement got hijacked by Hoffman and history forgetting.
@@mikecostigan9913 I’m not even a huge fan of Sorkin in general, but idk why you would say that here when everything in this clip came true basically exactly how his characters said it would
@@akorn9943 I hate people who like to smell their own farts...and Sorkin loves his own farts. It's all smug horseshit and people do not speak the way he writes.
@@akorn9943 Because his character is your typical holier than thou liberal that fails to see the fruits of his beliefs. America IS the manifestation of radical Liberalism. America has no identity any longer, no common culture etc. America is a giant playground for financial elites. You clowns sit here & worry about the radical right meanwhile this country is owned by transnational interests that are far more concerned about keeping the empire afloat. Why can't we ever get legitimate border control? Why can't we get universal healthcare? Why can we ever get decent wages? Why are we always involved in some type of war?
“That’s how the progressive movement would be painted for the next 40 years, by passing out daisies to soldiers and trying to levitate the Pentagon” That line is literally used word for word in Trial of the Chicago 7, Sorkin can use his writing in multiple screenplays it’s so good
When I saw Chicago 7 I thought it sounded familiar, I had to find Newsroom to be sure. Sorkin has used a few lines in multiple media "This isn't blank camp (tv camp, government camp), it's not important that everyone gets to play" but this is rather specific line.
Genius or really lazy? Also if you read the transcript of the Trial of the Chicago 7 you’ll realize how boring and toned down the movie was, literally just a liberal lecturing progressives about how because he personally doesn’t find their arguments compelling that means they’re bad arguments without ever countering them in any way.
The whole "view of the progressive movement" part is paraphrased in the movie. I genuinely laughed trying to picture Hoffmann and Rubin working for the government
It's a shame this show only lasted for a couple of seasons...It was very prophetic to American culture and brutally honest on topics real life media didn't want to touch. Great writing that was unbiased and argued both sides well. Very rare that you find a show that was as intellectually stimulating as this one
I'm not an American and not specially familiar with political system there BUT The Newsroom series really had a huge impact on me. It is one of the best TV series I've ever watched. The Sorkin dialogue, the subjects they took up, the way the actors deliver the lines AND THE CAMERAWORK....*chef's kiss
Eh it's like Star Trek or The Expanse or House....it's competency porn. Reality is pretty fucking removed from this in certain circles, and instead of disecting the likes of Richard Spencer or Steve Bannon they give million dollar fundraisers instead of being forced to panhandle on the N-line around 23rd Street Station because their ideas suck so bad, the panhandlers at 34th and Penn Station ( who relatively have their shit together) force them to get lost.
You mean the Democrat party because the Republican party is not a right wing zealot group I think you're understanding of history theology and responsibility need a little fine tuning
Our media networks made sure we didn’t. Besides, you know as well as I do that we are better off fighting about race and gender than discussing what if anything can be done about a billionaire class that owns the politicians and runs the media.
@@RegularSizeRick No. That's just stupid. For two reasons. 1. Neither of those groups consume mainstream media 2. The differences between those two groups would prevent an alliance of common ground. To think otherwise is to be naive.
This program is completely american,I am a non-american. Most of the things they talk about i dont understand it. But still i love this program, i dont know why. Maybe because i want news channel like this so bad.
***** As an American, I want news channels like this so bad. Our news is so bad, so bias and so fear mongeringly directed, that our most reliable news source comes from a news satire show on Comedy Central! Tho now Last Week Tonight has added to it as well. But yea, the 'big network' news just isnt trust worthy.
lyianx LWT is just indulging into the depths of their own, left insanity, endorsing third wave feminist lies and whatnot... it's sad to witness! - see the segment about "online harassment" last week acknowledging well debunked lies by feminist bubble-heads, and this weak, playing the shame-game against anyone who dares point out, that a man dressing up as a woman, is not a woman, no matter how much makeup and plastic surgery is invested into the illusion... or when they repeated the wage gape myth!
***** agreed, we need a Center news channel, where they look at both sides of the spectrum and tell us what is exactly is going on with both parties and with the world, and just present facts. Problem with some of the news these days is that it is way to opinionated now that it just reporting as to what people either want to hear or what meets their criteria.
Good Lord this scene sent a chill down my spine. It explains dead on the cataclysm happening to America and the Republican Party over the past 12+ years.
And that continues to happen. Further and further right, off the deep end. Denying themselves life-saving vaccines and simply ignoring reality all together. Not even rightwing spin anymore, just flat making shit up. All in the service of trying to establish a fascist dictatorship.
@@zenmastermtl Except the Tea Party was captured by the cooperate right...not the "far right" or whatever that means in todays world...I think Glenn Greenwald is called a fascist these days by people who absolutely are not using a emergency to transfer themselves more power and wealth......cool club.. don't think I will join with you.
@@justing7631 Fascism would be far more preferable than this faux Democracy we have now. I'd take 1 clear leader over a financial oligarchy like we have now.
DAMN. What Will says here is so prophetic it's actually scary. I need to go back and watch the entire series. It was such a great show, everything about it was exemplary.
"How is there room to Right of Bob Bennett???" Oh there's plenty of room. Like Ronald Reagan being to the Right of Barry Goldwater back in the 70s and of course when he was President. Goldwater actually became the voice of reason for the GOP in the 90s, especially when it came to the Religious Right which he loathed and frequently spoke out against in his later years. He also was for gays serving in the Military.
You'd be surprised, and my memory is a little hazy, but I've read "The Making of the President 1964" (yeah, the one 4 years before the really famous one) and Goldwater was against the religious right even back then if I recall correctly
@@cucinare-da-zero Goldwater was basically just your standard Conservative with libertarian elements. The issue was he was principled to a fault. Which is weird to say in an era where most politicians have no principles. But yeah Goldwater wasn't actually pro-racism no segregation but thought the Federal Government couldn't force states to integrate it had to be local. So similar to this video clip by the time Goldwater is campaigning many of his surrogates are southern segregationists. Later on, yeah, Goldwater was just a standard conservative who always warned about the religious right. Who sadly may be fellow Children of Christ but forgot that politics corrupts everything it touches, including religion
Really? Because I remember the first people talking about the Tea Party were Glenn Beck and Penn Jillette. Mostly joining forces as a result of Obama being elected and a vague fear of vague socialism. Penn jumped off when Glenn started preaching Christianity as a fundamental part of the Tea Party.
Damn, Sorkin! You proved to be a prophet!!! And impressive job, Jeff Daniels, for interpreting McAvoy so -- "well" doesn't do it justice. I'm at a loss for words here.
I like the scene when someone start to talk deep into an issue with chilling facts and passionate about it. This remind me 1991 JFK where is the scene about Mr. X explaining to Jim Garrison. I don't care about the facts are true or not but the mood set in. Good god. Mind blowing.
Aaron Sorkin went to the trouble of writing this and many other great dialougs for the single purpose of sitting around years later and reading the TH-cam comments for his own entertainment. Pure Genious. (Ginger, get the popcorn.)
It's like they predicted Donald Trump. I still blame the Tea Party for DT, even though I know he wasn't their candidate, because they created the environment of fear, anger, and panic that made his candidacy and presidency possible. If it wasn't for the Tea Party, there might have actually been a decent choice for a Republican presidential candidate. Instead we got stuck with a bunch of hacks who all became punchlines for the living joke that is Donald Trump.
Jason Wooster so what did Hilary do? Not claim half the country as racists? I was just sitting around minding my own business and then all of a sudden, I’m a bigot. How could I not vote for that man?
Goran Mihajlovic umm no, she was referring to half the country, the ones who are on the right or who didn’t vote for her. She’s said this multiple times.
Goran Mihajlovic to say Trump supporters are racist is just a cop out to your own ignorance. I wouldn’t make the claim Hilary voters are immoral, sjw, intersectional thot police, just because I don’t like Hilary.
It's a testament to Aaron Sorkin's style of writing and choices of cinematography that I can be engaged by this without knowing who any of these people are, as well as having a very dim idea of political leanings and what they mean.
Wild how good this show was in describing the TP, now MAGA movement. The Tea Party got forgotten in the shuffle but the motivations and consequences are still there.
First let my say two things 1. i'm a liberal 2. I am well aware that despite the modern misconception there were and still are some members of the tea party who are trying to achieve something good in the country. The problem I have with the party is that despite this there are still and rather large amount of people in the tea party who are not as honest or noble in there intentions. Some examples: 1. Many members of the tea party go out in public to basically bash the president on issues like gun control without any basis and are using it to simply gain popularity and diminish his approval rating.(If similar things are happening across the aisle then please tell me and give me an example. 2. The tea party advocates that its supported by small donors only,when it is supported mainly by the Koch Brothers who are both billionaire's so it puts a damper on their image. 3.As pointed out by in The Newsroom many politicians are ignorant to what there really advocating for such as on the 2010 congress election episode where a newly elected tea party member advocated no to raise the debt ceiling when he was completely ignorant to what the debt ceiling really is. 4. And I believe this is the most commonly known some supporters of the tea party do so simply out of spite or racial prejudice toward the president. Now I will state again I don't believe that this represents all of the Tea party, but these are the kind of issues very well known by the media, so I think the tea party wouldn't get nearly as much hate if the people who I just describe weren't involved with the party. (P.S. Please give me rebuttals to my arguments, but minimize the cussing i'm not trying to be an asshole.)
Sam Waterston's character illustrates what I feel to be a fatal flaw of both ends of the spectrum. The inability to look at your own and ascribe malignant purpose. Jeff Daniels' character is able to do this. Which is why he recognized the problem. This, unfortunately, is a rarity.
I have to agree with you. I really get annoyed when people say their country (and I use mine as a prime example) is the "the best". Anyone who actually believes that, is either wholly misinformed or simply self deluded. Every nation has great points and every one has problems. Pride can be a wonderful motivator. However false pride and inaction to improve problems goes far beyond simple politics. In the end, it sets up generational problems. Just my opinion. Thanks for your thoughts. :)
We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs-expansion of social security-broadened coverage in unemployment insurance -improved housing-and better health protection for all our people. We are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people. The Republican Party Platform of 1956. Hard to believe...
It was just their way of manipulating people to vote republican. President Theodore Roosevelt was probably the best republican democratic president of the 20th century!
Nicholas A. Teddy and Ike would be considered socialist in today's world. None of the Republicans today mention neither person. Hell they don't even mention Richard Nixon or Nelson Rockefeller, Barry Goldwater, George Romney, Henry Cabot Lodge, Gearld and Betty Ford, Charles Percy, Mark Hatfield, Edward Brooke, Pete McCloskey, Jacob Javits, Margaret Chase Smith and Prescott Bush. Yes Grandpa Bush was a progressive Republican and many more of the old school Republicans. The hatred for Abraham Lincoln by today's Dixecrats in Republican clothing is huge but they are in his party. They still long for slavery or segregation because it's what they grew up on.
How sad of them for the radical right to take over the center of their party. Then the Democrats have to acting like moderate Rebpublicans pre 1970s (Neo-Liberal or put it this way. Republican light.) Here's what Truman said in 1952. “I’ve seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the Fair Deal, and says he really doesn’t believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don’t want a phony Democrat. If it’s a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don’t want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.” Any Democrat governing like LBJ/FFDR/Truman would seem as "radical" I doubt after last years primaries.
I had a client from England, and one of the first things she asked me when I started working with her was "Do you know how much Europeans laugh at Americans who call themselves 'liberals'?"
That's funny because I have spent my life traveling the world and the only people they seem to laugh at are Republicans. In fact, the only time the US gets mocked is when we have a republican. Kennedy, Clinton, and Obama were absolutely loved by Europe and almost every non-China/non-NK Asian country. Reagan, Bush Jr, and Trump are literally laughing stocks of most first world nations.
@Ragnar Sims And yet it is an accurate account. Because, simply put, when we put a corrupt ass, an idiot, or a combination of the two in charge we end getting mocked by the first world. Just as we occasionally mock other countries for their unfortunate choices/forced to deal with (Putin, Xi Jinping, Gadafi).
That's ok. Do Europeans understand just how much we laugh at them? Europeans don't think we have a left wing. But they also think that their far left and their far right actually stand for different principles. The Europeans think we barely have a political spectrum, but the truth is the Europeans themselves barely have a political spectrum. Behind their veneer of ideology, European politics are about one thing and one thing only - my community gets mine. All the ideology and philosophy that they cloak that in doesn't change the fact that the far left and the far right in European politics are united with their middle in one thing - naked self-interest. Which is why when the European political pot boils over, it always results in bloody civil strife. Americans are individuals. We kill each other as individuals. Europeans are all collectivists of one sort or another. National Socialist. International Socialist. Christian Democrat. All their parties are just, "I want what's mine."
@@ShredPenguins that's funny because I have literally been to every country in the world and they all told me the only time they laugh the US is when we have a democrat in charge
My party was hijacked. Now everyone's party is hijacked in response. They said fight fire with fire and now it's spiraling. I wish Will could have really stopped the little shop of horrors.
The tea party, even the ron paul tea party, always had a disconcerting level of xenophobia as part of its domestic politics. I'm in the middle class and there is no way I could ever support them.
that and even from the get go, their co-opting of the tea party was fallacious. The ACTUAL tea party was about taxation WITHOUT representation. well guess what..we won that fight. we have representation now. But guess what, not every vote goes your way and they were claiming the gov't was tyrannical simply because they didn't win the election. which is BS. Meanwhile the right actually try to overturn an election and they get upset when we call them treasonous or seditious. oh the irony.
Its fucking hilarious that people on the right show up here to say this is what happened to the left. You straight up disassociated from the entire clip.
Except it conquered America and is currently trying to escape the box we _barely_ put it in. Biden-Harris isn't good governance it's 'better than the lunatic' - that ain't fair.
I actually never thought about that. That nobody from the STS would have a chance of getting nominated for anything but many Tea Partiers have been nominated and ELECTED to public office and just look at what they're doing to this country.
And no one from the ACTUAL Republican Party had the stones to stand up to the Tea Party because they knew if they did, they'd be carried out of office. Notice how people like Boehner and Romney only started talking sense when they no longer had an election to win or a seat to keep.
I'm not entirely sure if anyone is reading these comments, because it's been a very long time, and I've just discovered the Newsroom myself, a very good show, by the way. In any case, what I'd like to point out is that in the beginning of the United States, there were no parties until after George Washington. Second, I'd like to point out that today's parties are inversed back then; Democrats were for the elite, hence why the held as Donkeys for the symbol, because donkey's are infertile, anyone that owned one was primarily just because they could. Republicans were far more for the middle class, because they represented the people that could amass together to accomplish goals for the people, the elephant signified this as to show that when people amass in large numbers, they could achieve even the impossible. Note, that this is actually a speculation on my part, and I may be wrong. Either way, this is at 3:27 in the morning, and I'd like to say hello to any fellow insomniacs out there. Thank you for reading the huge paragraphs of words if you got this far, and I bid you good day.
monokhem Ah. Thank you. I honestly didn't expect any to reply to a comment that was made off of half-made thoughts. Yes, I'm wrong, but at least I learned something I suppose. Knowledge is Power, after all. Although, if I remember correctly, the Republican Party did reform it's values after a split down in the middle because of Lincoln, which formed the right-wing portion of the party we know today. At least, that's as much as I could recall. I could still be wrong, but, meh. Life is all about making mistakes, and acknowledging that they were made, and then to move on, to bigger and brighter things. Thanks for the correction. :)
A Guy Who cares. Knowledge is Power only between well educated and open mind people. It does not work in US right now where gossip and reporters sold to the 1% have access to popular media.
Almost every actor/producer who has made it famous started in some form of musical or Broadway type production. It's in a theater nerd's blood. If you remember, there was a whole episode argument in The West Wing over "Pirates of Penzance"..;)
I agree with Will to a degree except the SDS was not organized in 1968. It was organized in 1960, and Hoffman wasn't about giving the finger to anyone over 30. He was over 30. The Yippies had a purpose; stopping the war and cultural revolution, and the SDS was focused more on organized protest. I guess you could say the SDS was more "mainstream" and the Yippies were more non-conformist.
I went to a very early "Tea Party" event when it was just a couple of guys who'd organized a thing for an upcoming election. They'd laid all of the issues and what both sides said about each issue. People were going from table to table, discussing and debating politely. It was the single best political experience of my life.
I was a truck driver at the time who didn't pay much attention to politics. I spent about a year telling people how awesome the Tea Party was and how I'd never vote again without going to another event like that. About a year later, the guys were hosting another event and I went and it was bat-sh*t insane. The friend that I brought turned to me and asked if I'd brought him to a Klan rally
It’s hard to believe in things here in America. I’m sorry something u loved got infected….with just hate speech.
If the tea party had the modern social media platforms back then, the american political atmosphere would have looked exactly like itis now. Rascism, anti-gay/ LGBTQ+, anti-immigrant ideology of the far right has always existed in the US. They know being a bigot is wrong and most hid it. Modern social media gave the movement instant recruiting and vindication to thise likeminded.
That same sort of crazy turned into MAGA which turned into QAnon.
Fucking Koch Brothers. They knew what they were doing. Will's "American Taliban" monologue in the show is extremely accurate.
yeah I remember the bit about repealing the 14th amendment, which I was not on board. Not a good look.
This clip is over 10 years old, yet if you told me it was released last month, I would believe you.
Even after all these years, it's still *THAT* relevant.
The sad thing is that if released last month, the Tea Party would be the moderate wing of the Republican party. It's crazy to think, but the whole party shifted three time as far right as the Tea Party was when this clip first aired.
The whole clip is basically McAvoy in 2012 describing his fear of what has actually happened by 2022. It’s both crazy and depressing that this was written during what he’s talking about and not after the fact
You think that’s crazy, go and rewatch The West Wing and see how much of that is still relevant and that went off the air over 15 years ago.
@@ThrashyThrash The Tea Party began as a Libertarian movement (Ron Paul), but was quickly hijacked by racist elements in Texas...because Obama was only half-white.
@@ThrashyThrash What I hadn't realised prior to watching the show, about a year after it aired, was that the Tea Party originated with some good messages. By the time they were known over here, it was for a lot of the wrong reasons.
I don't think though that the whole party has shifted that much, but it was a defining time for the fringe to become the noisiest.
Mac: "You're the one who faxed him the Utah polling data, right?"
Charlie fuckin' Skinner: *nuds smugly*
This show literally predicted and gave the exact reason why Trump got elected.
That's what happens when you have a smart show with writers who know their shit!
Yup. I loved this show. Rewatched it last year.
Barry Wood. Twat
@@fenrisulven5324 yea you're right.. thank God for that lone hero in Vega.. wait...
I know, the good guy with the gun in that mall shooting was a cop... that shot the good guy w a gun while the actual bad guy gets away...
Hmm.. I'm sure there's an exception that makes the rule.. oh? That's not how it works? Shiiiiit.
@@johnturner4400 Atta Boy John. Anyone who disagrees with your point of view needs to be insulted, and shouted down. Who's really the fascist?
"No it didn't. The Pentagon is a really big building. You can't levitate it."
That line gets me every time.
I like how it kind of implies that you could levitate a smaller building
The obvious implication being that if the Pentagon were The Square it would have been yeeted into orbit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this show ended to damn early. I would kill to have more of this smart writing and insight. Especially during the epic known as 2020. Will would have gone epiplectic in 2016 and be damn near insane now.
I’d say even if we don’t have a continuation, at least some show which is inspired by the Newsroom. And yes, I’d say it is left ‘liberal’ ( half the people who call themselves liberal don’t know what that means, in my personal experience and I could be wrong)propaganda and what not, but hey! If there is one thing s that has let us down more than anything it is the media-regardless if left,right ,center*
Aaron Sorkin got scared by his elitist democratic friends in media who kept asking "Well, how would you have done it?" so that was the end of that. Even a last attempt of trying to appeal to the "good old American values" couldn't save the show.
Thier will be no continuation because it was a show about issues and politics today is about slandering
Newsroom ended too early and West Wing went about 3 seasons too long.
The botched the second season
"The Pentagon is a really big building. You can't levitate it." ROFL!
You can levitate anything if you have enough electromagnets.
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He was there, they damn near dead it. The pollen from daisies probably helped. :p
@@Gowidafloman anything will fly if you throw it hard enough
@@Gowidafloman If you push a really big building, you move it. Just not very far.
Not that I'm surprised liberal progressives don't understand how physics works.
"How is there more room to the right?!"
*starts sad crying uncontrollably*
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if someone has challenged Mike Lee from his right.
"Why do I hear German marching music?"
@@jeffc5974 Further to the right of Mike Lee is the Qanon people. Yep.
Keep telling the blue collar guy who comes home after working two jobs with a bad back and no money to pay his bills, that he has white male privilege. Tell him that his is to blame for everything that has happened over the last few thousand years and you hate him for it. You wonder why he doesn’t vote for Democrat and longer?
@@fedcoin1602 it's not that he stopped voting Democrat. It's that he started voting for ultra right wing race baiters for whom the GOP used to have no time for, warping the GOP from the principles on which it used to stand: equal opportunity in the workplace, government non interventionism in the economy, and a government that paid its bills. Isolationists could be found in both Democrat and Republican circles. Now it has turned to an open race-baiter, a man openly profiting from public office, a man who cut taxes but increase federal deficits tenfold. Claiming to be a law and order president while seeing increased rioting and violence on his watch and whose Covid 19 policy has been to largely do nothing and pretend that it's not a problem while the death toll spirals. What Trump represents is the death of the Party of Lincoln and the rebirth of the Dixicrats in new garb. The meaning of being a Republican has changed.
Jesus Christ, it's cyclical. He's describing the future without even realizing it.
He's fundamentally misunderstanding the Tea Party by painting it as an organic movement instead of an astroturf front for very wealthy lunatics
@@SamM-lv8hr They do go on later in the show to explain it though. They show the Koch Brothers are funding it
Aaron Sorking knew exactly what he was doing when he took on the Teaparty. And he was right. Americans should be scared shitless about whats happening right now. Not only have the extremists taken over the republican party, they are cementing their power by rigging and gerrymandering the shit out of the US election system and putting their people on the supreme court so that whenever they get busted, they get a free pass from their buddies in the judical branch.
11/3 might be the last chance you get to stop that shit. I'm from germany and believe me, we know that shit like nobody else does because we've been through it before.
No, the writers realized it. Literally every Democrat saw it coming before the Republicans realized what was happening with their own party. The left has become the new middle. That’s dangerous in today’s politics because when we should be voting for one solution over another instead we are voting for sane versus insane.
@@xplayman I would just campaign on the issue's that have over 51% in this country. That would be a left populist. If something was lower than 50%, I wouldn't touch it.
What they are talking about with the SDS is in "The Trial of The Chicago 7" with Hoffman and Hayden. Nice to see it has come full circle for Aaron Sorkin. Even same reasoning for how the SDS movement got hijacked by Hoffman and history forgetting.
But Hoffman was so right.
far more honest than the likes of Mike Lee ever could be
Correct, it even points out the deabte they have in one of the climaxes of the movie between Hoffman and Hayden
This show was so smart. It saw 2016 coming long before most of us did.
Smart, but only to mid-wits. This show was moronic as is Sorkin.
@@mikecostigan9913 'I am very smart'
@@mikecostigan9913 I’m not even a huge fan of Sorkin in general, but idk why you would say that here when everything in this clip came true basically exactly how his characters said it would
@@akorn9943 I hate people who like to smell their own farts...and Sorkin loves his own farts. It's all smug horseshit and people do not speak the way he writes.
@@akorn9943 Because his character is your typical holier than thou liberal that fails to see the fruits of his beliefs. America IS the manifestation of radical Liberalism. America has no identity any longer, no common culture etc. America is a giant playground for financial elites. You clowns sit here & worry about the radical right meanwhile this country is owned by transnational interests that are far more concerned about keeping the empire afloat.
Why can't we ever get legitimate border control? Why can't we get universal healthcare? Why can we ever get decent wages? Why are we always involved in some type of war?
“That’s how the progressive movement would be painted for the next 40 years, by passing out daisies to soldiers and trying to levitate the Pentagon” That line is literally used word for word in Trial of the Chicago 7, Sorkin can use his writing in multiple screenplays it’s so good
I noticed that too! And I went all excite to tell some friends and now I am the weird one. So glad someone else appreciated it.
It’s a hell of a line! Sorkin is a genius
A lot of lines from the West Wing were recycled on this show as well.
When I saw Chicago 7 I thought it sounded familiar, I had to find Newsroom to be sure. Sorkin has used a few lines in multiple media "This isn't blank camp (tv camp, government camp), it's not important that everyone gets to play" but this is rather specific line.
Genius or really lazy?
Also if you read the transcript of the Trial of the Chicago 7 you’ll realize how boring and toned down the movie was, literally just a liberal lecturing progressives about how because he personally doesn’t find their arguments compelling that means they’re bad arguments without ever countering them in any way.
Sorkin just wrote (and directed) a whole movie about this. The Chicago 7 on Netflix. Great movie.
Yeah I just realized
Gonna check it out after I'm done with the Night Stalker.
Not a great movie
The whole "view of the progressive movement" part is paraphrased in the movie. I genuinely laughed trying to picture Hoffmann and Rubin working for the government
Es una película de mierda con ideales yankis vomitados encima de la realidad. Da asco esa película
It's a shame this show only lasted for a couple of seasons...It was very prophetic to American culture and brutally honest on topics real life media didn't want to touch. Great writing that was unbiased and argued both sides well. Very rare that you find a show that was as intellectually stimulating as this one
The Newsroom went away because Sorkin wanted to focus on other projects.
I'm not an American and not specially familiar with political system there BUT The Newsroom series really had a huge impact on me. It is one of the best TV series I've ever watched. The Sorkin dialogue, the subjects they took up, the way the actors deliver the lines AND THE CAMERAWORK....*chef's kiss
Same here.
Congratulations, you were effectively propagandized by progressive media.
Eh it's like Star Trek or The Expanse or House....it's competency porn. Reality is pretty fucking removed from this in certain circles, and instead of disecting the likes of Richard Spencer or Steve Bannon they give million dollar fundraisers instead of being forced to panhandle on the N-line around 23rd Street Station because their ideas suck so bad, the panhandlers at 34th and Penn Station ( who relatively have their shit together) force them to get lost.
@@proadmin1 Bro, genuinely, what the fuck are you talking about?
One of the most underrated and underappreciated shows on TV.
This show was 10 years too early for most Americans
Too bad this show thinks it’s smarter than it actually is.
It’s a dumb lefty’s version of intelligent television.
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@@Zieg_GamesDid you just call Aaron Sorkin a lefty? How fucking right wing are you bro? Are you a literal time traveling Nazi or something?
Man... this clip just keeps gaining new dimensions.
8 years ago and he saw the future of the Republican Party
Or the writers saw it?
You mean the Democrat party because the Republican party is not a right wing zealot group I think you're understanding of history theology and responsibility need a little fine tuning
@@buellboy007 word salad
There is a lot of dumb on this thread.
@pillcarSmelly how? No I'm serious how are they neo nazi? Even fascist?
Please give this show a new life. Aaron Sorkin is one hell of a genius to see things before they would unfold years later.
Meanwhile you watch TYT. Ok bud.
The tragedy of this century is that the Tea Partiers and the Wall Street Occupiers never asked each other what they had in common.
Our media networks made sure we didn’t. Besides, you know as well as I do that we are better off fighting about race and gender than discussing what if anything can be done about a billionaire class that owns the politicians and runs the media.
Well, for a start, I never filled a public park with human feces
@@RegularSizeRick That, and all the money the Koch brothers were pouring into the Tea Party. They saw political expediency in that.
@@RegularSizeRick
No. That's just stupid. For two reasons.
1. Neither of those groups consume mainstream media
2. The differences between those two groups would prevent an alliance of common ground. To think otherwise is to be naive.
This program is completely american,I am a non-american. Most of the things they talk about i dont understand it. But still i love this program, i dont know why. Maybe because i want news channel like this so bad.
***** As an American, I want news channels like this so bad. Our news is so bad, so bias and so fear mongeringly directed, that our most reliable news source comes from a news satire show on Comedy Central! Tho now Last Week Tonight has added to it as well. But yea, the 'big network' news just isnt trust worthy.
lyianx LWT is just indulging into the depths of their own, left insanity, endorsing third wave feminist lies and whatnot... it's sad to witness! - see the segment about "online harassment" last week acknowledging well debunked lies by feminist bubble-heads, and this weak, playing the shame-game against anyone who dares point out, that a man dressing up as a woman, is not a woman, no matter how much makeup and plastic surgery is invested into the illusion... or when they repeated the wage gape myth!
***** agreed, we need a Center news channel, where they look at both sides of the spectrum and tell us what is exactly is going on with both parties and with the world, and just present facts. Problem with some of the news these days is that it is way to opinionated now that it just reporting as to what people either want to hear or what meets their criteria.
@@PyrrhoVonHyperborea - ... OK, it's been 3 years ... but "wage gap myth"?
Its the news channel we need. . . . But don't deserve right now 😄
Good Lord this scene sent a chill down my spine. It explains dead on the cataclysm happening to America and the Republican Party over the past 12+ years.
And that continues to happen. Further and further right, off the deep end. Denying themselves life-saving vaccines and simply ignoring reality all together. Not even rightwing spin anymore, just flat making shit up. All in the service of trying to establish a fascist dictatorship.
@@zenmastermtl Except the Tea Party was captured by the cooperate right...not the "far right" or whatever that means in todays world...I think Glenn Greenwald is called a fascist these days by people who absolutely are not using a emergency to transfer themselves more power and wealth......cool club.. don't think I will join with you.
With you right up until "fascist dictatorship". Do you REALLY believe this? Say why.
@@justing7631 You might want to rethink that.
@@justing7631 Fascism would be far more preferable than this faux Democracy we have now. I'd take 1 clear leader over a financial oligarchy like we have now.
“I was there, damn near worked.” Sorkin’s dialogue and Waterson’s delivery, miraculous! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is something very alluring about McKenzie....I don't know if it's her confidence, accent or personality.....or a combination of the three.
+Morpheus She works with pens, you know.
And being an 11 on the beautiful scale certainly doesn't hurt matters.
Be careful if she shows up in a red dress.
There’s just something about pretty actresses that’s attractive. Don’t know what it is.
Sought this scene up after watching Sorkin’s new movie about the Chicago 7. Finally have a better understanding about the 60s part
Cool story bro
i would love to see charlie trying to levitate the pentagon :D
This scene was a perfect warning that we didn't pay attention to. The Tea Party later became MAGA which is a serious issue for us right now.
Yeah…like the “normal” are running the nation into the ground.
The look on Waterson's face at the of the scene.
"Dance Puppet; Dance." LOL.
1:54 Something about the cheeks-blowing-out pronunciation of "obliterated" has always been really satisfying to me.
DAMN. What Will says here is so prophetic it's actually scary. I need to go back and watch the entire series. It was such a great show, everything about it was exemplary.
Not really prophetic. The things that were happening then have continued to today.
This show needs a reboot, with as many of the original cast as possible…
If they reboot it, it'll be dumbed down. Hijacked, if you will.
it will also be targeted by groups who would want to change the narrative into their own sphere of influence.
Not a reboot, just a reairing. Change nothing, let it be and show its message again.
America needed this series. We still need it. How did Aaron Sorkin not get the biggest megaphone in the planet to keep us going?
Because he claims a group is radical without explaining why they are radical?
Because he was taking so much shit for this show. Also, you couldn'tkeep up with the crap happening IRL on this show if you tried.
@@dfmrcv862 Watch the show they went into great detail. And even if you disagree I still recommend it.
@@dfmrcv862 We know why they're radical.
@@pw1576 no you don't. if you did you could explain it.
Yes a bunch of hippies went to the Pentagon and seriously thought they could levitate it.
If this show still ran, it'd just be 40 minutes of Will in a padded room with a straight jacket, repeatedly muttering "what the fuck is going on"
"How is there room to Right of Bob Bennett???" Oh there's plenty of room. Like Ronald Reagan being to the Right of Barry Goldwater back in the 70s and of course when he was President. Goldwater actually became the voice of reason for the GOP in the 90s, especially when it came to the Religious Right which he loathed and frequently spoke out against in his later years. He also was for gays serving in the Military.
You'd be surprised, and my memory is a little hazy, but I've read "The Making of the President 1964" (yeah, the one 4 years before the really famous one) and Goldwater was against the religious right even back then if I recall correctly
@@cucinare-da-zero Goldwater was basically just your standard Conservative with libertarian elements. The issue was he was principled to a fault. Which is weird to say in an era where most politicians have no principles. But yeah Goldwater wasn't actually pro-racism no segregation but thought the Federal Government couldn't force states to integrate it had to be local. So similar to this video clip by the time Goldwater is campaigning many of his surrogates are southern segregationists. Later on, yeah, Goldwater was just a standard conservative who always warned about the religious right. Who sadly may be fellow Children of Christ but forgot that politics corrupts everything it touches, including religion
Goldwater would probably a centrist Democrat in today's America. And if not a centrist Democrat, at the very least he'd be an independent.
If scripted television shows were always this good, I'd never leave the house.
You are getting your wish...about leaving your home that is. Try reading a fucking book.
@@mikecostigan9913 I have and I do.
@@tomsurber2293 I did not mean Danielle Steele, John Grisham or Stephen King...LOL!
@@mikecostigan9913 Gee, thanks for the advice. Please, tell me more ... 😁
@@tomsurber2293 I don't run a fucking Book Club, but if you want a few recommendations, let me know.
Really? Because I remember the first people talking about the Tea Party were Glenn Beck and Penn Jillette. Mostly joining forces as a result of Obama being elected and a vague fear of vague socialism. Penn jumped off when Glenn started preaching Christianity as a fundamental part of the Tea Party.
Damn, Sorkin! You proved to be a prophet!!! And impressive job, Jeff Daniels, for interpreting McAvoy so -- "well" doesn't do it justice. I'm at a loss for words here.
Sorkin used the exact same line from :45-:50 in Trial of the Chicago Seven. This must be a really consistent belief of his...
Or sorkin is a hack who actually doesn't have any real message
@@cm9241 How deliciously reductive and unfounded of you to assert
@@kyleway8513 he's a centrist who cannibalizes his own scripts. Idk how this is unfounded. Just watch any 2 of his works.
Chasing Tea Party candidates with Elvis playing in the background.
Yes please.
I loved this show. It still surprises me how prescient it was.
I like the scene when someone start to talk deep into an issue with chilling facts and passionate about it. This remind me 1991 JFK where is the scene about Mr. X explaining to Jim Garrison. I don't care about the facts are true or not but the mood set in. Good god. Mind blowing.
+kf160k160 What facts? His summarization of the Tea Party is pure comedy.
+kf160k160 Great insight; I forgot all about that scene and re-watched it.
it's a nice story, but the tea party was astroturfed by the koch brothers right from the very beginning.
Sister Numpsie hahahahaha
Source? Not to be a dickhead, but if this is the case, I'm curious to read on....
@@bengaltiger96 It's always good to ask for a source
Watch the show. They don't leave that out.
In the show, in this same episode I think, they discuss the Koch ties with the Tea Party.
Where in the “F” was Sorkin and this level of writing for more Newsroom the past four years!! Tens of millions would have tuned in every week!
Newsroom
And now, we have Mike Lee saying democracy is overrated. “Room to the right” turned out to be fascism!
democracy is overrated and it's how fascists got elected
@Judo Ichidai fascism liberated working people it just did it in a way you don't like
And what exactly has conservatism done to give power back to the working class?
@@vicwaters87 bro are you calling me or hitler a conservative right now because either way it's insulting
@@Lthethird He didn’t bring up Hitler, you did.
I guess the Little Shop of Horrors plant wasn't put down and is alive and well after having consumed Boehner and Cantor. Next on the menu: Ryan.
now what do you think?
Aaron Sorkin went to the trouble of writing this and many other great dialougs for the single purpose of sitting around years later and reading the TH-cam comments for his own entertainment. Pure Genious. (Ginger, get the popcorn.)
I see what you did there. Nice.
It's like they predicted Donald Trump. I still blame the Tea Party for DT, even though I know he wasn't their candidate, because they created the environment of fear, anger, and panic that made his candidacy and presidency possible. If it wasn't for the Tea Party, there might have actually been a decent choice for a Republican presidential candidate. Instead we got stuck with a bunch of hacks who all became punchlines for the living joke that is Donald Trump.
Yep, Tea Party stoked the racist fears and hatred angle till it overloaded the GOP.
Jason Wooster so what did Hilary do? Not claim half the country as racists? I was just sitting around minding my own business and then all of a sudden, I’m a bigot. How could I not vote for that man?
@@jessie801000 By not voting for him? She said half of Trump's supporters, not half the country. And I don't like Clinton, but she ain't wrong.
Goran Mihajlovic umm no, she was referring to half the country, the ones who are on the right or who didn’t vote for her. She’s said this multiple times.
Goran Mihajlovic to say Trump supporters are racist is just a cop out to your own ignorance. I wouldn’t make the claim Hilary voters are immoral, sjw, intersectional thot police, just because I don’t like Hilary.
"They were about giving the finger to anyone over 30, generically hating the american establishment, dropping out, and getting high."
*oof...*
Excellent script and acting all the way around, especially Jeff Daniels.
Aaron Sorkin, time traveler! He had similar insight with West Wing, just incredible
It's a testament to Aaron Sorkin's style of writing and choices of cinematography that I can be engaged by this without knowing who any of these people are, as well as having a very dim idea of political leanings and what they mean.
My favourite TV show of all time. I'm 24 from the UK but god it's wonderfully made.
I never heard of this show. Now I have to find it and watch. This clip sounds like it came from "Morning Joe."
Oh dear… this predated everything.
Tea Party: we are the radical right
MAGA: Hold my beer
QAnon: amateurs
I love how he lets Will talk and doesn't take over the conversations
really happy to see Charlie was the mastermind behind all this
Wild how good this show was in describing the TP, now MAGA movement. The Tea Party got forgotten in the shuffle but the motivations and consequences are still there.
I really do wish this show was still on the air....could you imagine how it would play today? Let alone the last 5 years?!?
Please, please, please, please bring back this show with as much of the original cast and writers as follows - please, please.
First let my say two things 1. i'm a liberal 2. I am well aware that despite the modern misconception there were and still are some members of the tea party who are trying to achieve something good in the country. The problem I have with the party is that despite this there are still and rather large amount of people in the tea party who are not as honest or noble in there intentions.
Some examples:
1. Many members of the tea party go out in public to basically bash the president on issues like gun control without any basis and are using it to simply gain popularity and diminish his approval rating.(If similar things are happening across the aisle then please tell me and give me an example.
2. The tea party advocates that its supported by small donors only,when it is supported mainly by the Koch Brothers who are both billionaire's so it puts a damper on their image.
3.As pointed out by in The Newsroom many politicians are ignorant to what there really advocating for such as on the 2010 congress election episode where a newly elected tea party member advocated no to raise the debt ceiling when he was completely ignorant to what the debt ceiling really is.
4. And I believe this is the most commonly known some supporters of the tea party do so simply out of spite or racial prejudice toward the president.
Now I will state again I don't believe that this represents all of the Tea party, but these are the kind of issues very well known by the media, so I think the tea party wouldn't get nearly as much hate if the people who I just describe weren't involved with the party. (P.S. Please give me rebuttals to my arguments, but minimize the cussing i'm not trying to be an asshole.)
don't forget Fox news. They always tried to paint the Tea Party as this grass roots movement, but they too supported and coached them.
This holds up like it was just a moment ago
I would like acknowledge and thank the writers of this Series. Your words allow me to consider my world. Take care
Sam Waterston's character illustrates what I feel to be a fatal flaw of both ends of the spectrum. The inability to look at your own and ascribe malignant purpose. Jeff Daniels' character is able to do this. Which is why he recognized the problem. This, unfortunately, is a rarity.
I have to agree with you. I really get annoyed when people say their country (and I use mine as a prime example) is the "the best". Anyone who actually believes that, is either wholly misinformed or simply self deluded. Every nation has great points and every one has problems. Pride can be a wonderful motivator. However false pride and inaction to improve problems goes far beyond simple politics. In the end, it sets up generational problems. Just my opinion. Thanks for your thoughts. :)
We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs-expansion of social security-broadened coverage in unemployment insurance -improved housing-and better health protection for all our people. We are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people.
The Republican Party Platform of 1956. Hard to believe...
It was just their way of manipulating people to vote republican. President Theodore Roosevelt was probably the best republican democratic president of the 20th century!
Then it would be ike Kathleen.
Nicholas A. Teddy and Ike would be considered socialist in today's world. None of the Republicans today mention neither person. Hell they don't even mention Richard Nixon or Nelson Rockefeller, Barry Goldwater, George Romney, Henry Cabot Lodge, Gearld and Betty Ford, Charles Percy, Mark Hatfield, Edward Brooke, Pete McCloskey, Jacob Javits, Margaret Chase Smith and Prescott Bush. Yes Grandpa Bush was a progressive Republican and many more of the old school Republicans. The hatred for Abraham Lincoln by today's Dixecrats in Republican clothing is huge but they are in his party. They still long for slavery or segregation because it's what they grew up on.
How sad of them for the radical right to take over the center of their party.
Then the Democrats have to acting like moderate Rebpublicans pre 1970s (Neo-Liberal or put it this way. Republican light.) Here's what Truman said in 1952.
“I’ve seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the Fair Deal, and says he really doesn’t believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don’t want a phony Democrat. If it’s a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don’t want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.”
Any Democrat governing like LBJ/FFDR/Truman would seem as "radical" I doubt after last years primaries.
Nicholas A. Yeah that's true.
2:00-Oh Will, we're well beyond scared shitless.
"Get there!" . "I didn't even know you were there!" "Get there" lol
"Until the plant from The Little Shop of Horrors goes back to Mar-a-Lago".
Welcome to today's installment of "I know exactly why this is in my recommended right now."
Well....this aged well.....
And the words of the prophets are written op the subway walls...
And tenement halls...
This is literally how I felt about the Tea Party at the time.
Pentagon Line was the best "No it didn't the pentagon's a really big building you can't levitate it". lol
+HeeroYuy911 I gave you a thums u for having Squid Girl with eyeglasses.
mundotaku Why thank you :D
I had a client from England, and one of the first things she asked me when I started working with her was "Do you know how much Europeans laugh at Americans who call themselves 'liberals'?"
That's funny because I have spent my life traveling the world and the only people they seem to laugh at are Republicans. In fact, the only time the US gets mocked is when we have a republican. Kennedy, Clinton, and Obama were absolutely loved by Europe and almost every non-China/non-NK Asian country. Reagan, Bush Jr, and Trump are literally laughing stocks of most first world nations.
@Ragnar Sims And yet it is an accurate account. Because, simply put, when we put a corrupt ass, an idiot, or a combination of the two in charge we end getting mocked by the first world. Just as we occasionally mock other countries for their unfortunate choices/forced to deal with (Putin, Xi Jinping, Gadafi).
That's ok. Do Europeans understand just how much we laugh at them?
Europeans don't think we have a left wing. But they also think that their far left and their far right actually stand for different principles. The Europeans think we barely have a political spectrum, but the truth is the Europeans themselves barely have a political spectrum. Behind their veneer of ideology, European politics are about one thing and one thing only - my community gets mine. All the ideology and philosophy that they cloak that in doesn't change the fact that the far left and the far right in European politics are united with their middle in one thing - naked self-interest.
Which is why when the European political pot boils over, it always results in bloody civil strife. Americans are individuals. We kill each other as individuals. Europeans are all collectivists of one sort or another. National Socialist. International Socialist. Christian Democrat. All their parties are just, "I want what's mine."
@@ShredPenguins that's funny because I have literally been to every country in the world and they all told me the only time they laugh the US is when we have a democrat in charge
European "liberals" aren't real liberals because they don't believe in freedom of speech or the right to bare arms.
My party was hijacked. Now everyone's party is hijacked in response. They said fight fire with fire and now it's spiraling. I wish Will could have really stopped the little shop of horrors.
Unreal how this all is true and how damaging it has become.
The sad thing is, if this show was done today, they wouldn't change anything.
I love that this scene was the scene that became "Trial of The Chicago Seven"!
The tea party, even the ron paul tea party, always had a disconcerting level of xenophobia as part of its domestic politics. I'm in the middle class and there is no way I could ever support them.
that and even from the get go, their co-opting of the tea party was fallacious. The ACTUAL tea party was about taxation WITHOUT representation. well guess what..we won that fight. we have representation now. But guess what, not every vote goes your way and they were claiming the gov't was tyrannical simply because they didn't win the election. which is BS. Meanwhile the right actually try to overturn an election and they get upset when we call them treasonous or seditious. oh the irony.
Sorkin never disappoints.
I think I'm going to start watching this show.
And years later Aaron Sorkin released The Trial of The Chicago 7
Its fucking hilarious that people on the right show up here to say this is what happened to the left. You straight up disassociated from the entire clip.
After this passed presidential term, Sorkin is going to smelling another Emmy
Thanks for sharing, O Koch Bros. mouthpiece.
A+ to the 'Little Shop of Horrors' reference.
Except it conquered America and is currently trying to escape the box we _barely_ put it in. Biden-Harris isn't good governance it's 'better than the lunatic' - that ain't fair.
I like how this scene foreshadows The Trial of the Chicago 7.
I actually never thought about that. That nobody from the STS would have a chance of getting nominated for anything but many Tea Partiers have been nominated and ELECTED to public office and just look at what they're doing to this country.
That's because the followers of The Tea Party actually go out and vote.
And no one from the ACTUAL Republican Party had the stones to stand up to the Tea Party because they knew if they did, they'd be carried out of office. Notice how people like Boehner and Romney only started talking sense when they no longer had an election to win or a seat to keep.
I'm not entirely sure if anyone is reading these comments, because it's been a very long time, and I've just discovered the Newsroom myself, a very good show, by the way. In any case, what I'd like to point out is that in the beginning of the United States, there were no parties until after George Washington. Second, I'd like to point out that today's parties are inversed back then; Democrats were for the elite, hence why the held as Donkeys for the symbol, because donkey's are infertile, anyone that owned one was primarily just because they could. Republicans were far more for the middle class, because they represented the people that could amass together to accomplish goals for the people, the elephant signified this as to show that when people amass in large numbers, they could achieve even the impossible. Note, that this is actually a speculation on my part, and I may be wrong. Either way, this is at 3:27 in the morning, and I'd like to say hello to any fellow insomniacs out there. Thank you for reading the huge paragraphs of words if you got this far, and I bid you good day.
monokhem Ah. Thank you. I honestly didn't expect any to reply to a comment that was made off of half-made thoughts. Yes, I'm wrong, but at least I learned something I suppose. Knowledge is Power, after all. Although, if I remember correctly, the Republican Party did reform it's values after a split down in the middle because of Lincoln, which formed the right-wing portion of the party we know today. At least, that's as much as I could recall. I could still be wrong, but, meh. Life is all about making mistakes, and acknowledging that they were made, and then to move on, to bigger and brighter things. Thanks for the correction. :)
A Guy Who cares. Knowledge is Power only between well educated and open mind people. It does not work in US right now where gossip and reporters sold to the 1% have access to popular media.
It's 4:19am where I am now.
You do understand that if you own a computer you're part of the 1% right? The cutoff line for the top 1% income worldwide is a measly $32,400.
No that's not how that works.
Well, the plant from little shop of horrors just ate the American presidencyand the Senate and I'm scared shitless
the good old days when the tea party was the biggest problem w the republicans
What does she say at 1:45? I replayed it several times and all I can hear is something like "GAT THA"
“Get there”! As in get to your point
One cannot express dismay when the enemy chooses the same weapons as his opponent.
I love the ridiculous number of musical theatre references they threw in this show.
Almost every actor/producer who has made it famous started in some form of musical or Broadway type production. It's in a theater nerd's blood. If you remember, there was a whole episode argument in The West Wing over "Pirates of Penzance"..;)
Well Sorkin is a huge fan of musical theatre.
Hah. This leads us to Trump.
That's terrifying... who still uses fax?
Speaking as a librarian, a great many people. People bring faxes to us a dozen times a day.
- Medical
- Legal
- Timesheets
- Death Certificates
This was set a decade ago.
It's a period piece :v
I agree with Will to a degree except the SDS was not organized in 1968. It was organized in 1960, and Hoffman wasn't about giving the finger to anyone over 30. He was over 30. The Yippies had a purpose; stopping the war and cultural revolution, and the SDS was focused more on organized protest. I guess you could say the SDS was more "mainstream" and the Yippies were more non-conformist.
"How is there more room to the right?!"
Me: You've heard of Nazi Germany, right?