Now, what we need to accompany this new edition is the serious student’s modern editors’ comparative variant readings compendium. Let it be a proper desk/study size- A4. Enter for every chosen verse the variant of each of the chosen modern editions. I suppose that the initial modern editions would be ByzT/MT-RP2018 and CT-NA28. Alongside NA28, note the A-D evaluation system of UBS5. Bring in at once or later Byz/MT-FH1987 and Byz/MT-Pickering 2015 and CT-SBL and CT-TH2017. We perhaps should include Byz/Patriarchal 1904 (as currently lightly amended?). Then, a textual discussion should ensue. The model of presentation might be a tweaked version of what is being done in the ongoing BHQ series. We really do need to present, in a unified way and in the same place and in an uncramped format, to the serious student, a conspectus of the readings of the leading current editions; and we ought to include a decent discussion of important variants. The initial variants chosen might be the UBS ones with the A-D evaluations, as these are generally reckoned to be noteworthy, and perhaps some others considered to be most important. Now, personnel and costs! Why not engage competent students? How many student hours would be required, and what would be a fair hourly rate for a student? And what would be other costs? I do not envisage a glossy finished product, but a competent one, to be put on line and to be consulted or recorded or printed out by the user.
The font is good. The compact size is great. The quality of binding leaves much to be desired, for what they are charging, with shipping being extra. The Tyndale leather Greek NT iIs much nicer. Nonetheless, now I have it, I will enjoy using it.
Got mine today. It is very nice, but it is on the small side for me. The font is clear, but seems some what small compared to the older blue edition. I like it very much though. Like the gold lined pages and the leather cover. Would indeed recommend it for purchase. TBS did a great job here. I would love to see it larger and made into a reader's edition.
Boo! Too short! 😆 Looks great. The hardcover version is selling for only $10! I'll have to decide which to buy. Thanks for letting me know it was out. I checked a couple of weeks ago and it still wasn't in their store.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I got my hardcover today! Love the font. The hardcover will stay open on Matt 1 (a little off the table, but still open). Sewn binding. Dane put out his review today and the margins on the HC appear to be the same size on the leather. No ribbon, but I can add my own. Incredible value for $10+shipping! What would be most important to me is how the bible lays open when you read it. Can it stay open on Matt 1? Looking forward to your review. If you want pictures of the HC for comparison, just let me know.
This is really beautiful and a great improvement over the last version as far as typeface and readability IMO. I almost immediately impulse bought the calfskin version after seeing it, but then restrained myself and asked - Do I really need another GNT? No, not really... Do I want another GNT?... why, yes, of course! (don't have any of the TBS Scrivener editions, but only a 1906 edition of Scrivener's Stephanus text I convinced myself to buy. It would be nice to have I told myself, a piece of history!). I always think I could spend that $ on other books I want instead of 'one more' GNT. I just know I'll want a copy of whatever next edition/version comes out as well. So, I may just go for the hardback (but leather is so tempting). I imagine asking if I should get a copy (whatever version) and everyone answering in unison - YES! ;) Decisions, Decisions...
Pretty sure it is the same. But I gave my old one away. So I can’t compare it. It does have a note about why they chose Scrivener’s edition without the textual variants. I can’t remember if that was in the previous preface or not.
Exaxt same font as Tyndale House GNT. Easy on the eyes and I agree better than the old TBS font. Wish it had wide margins. And double or triple ribbons.
The Tyndale House is Adobe Text Pro, this appears to be Adobe Minion Pro (inspecting as well as I can with enlarged screencaps and not actual text in hand - definitely not Text Pro, nor even earlier Minion versions like Minion 3... which has clearly distinct Lambdas, Zetas, etc.). The Pi, Lambda, Zeta, and final Sigma are all quite distinct with Text Pro (I think the final Sigma and Pi are the most unique). I admit to spending way too many hours looking over numerous fonts for Polytonic Greek and trying to notice their nuances, judging their overall readability, look on the page, etc. I love the layout of the Tyndale House (especially the ekthesis / left indentation of paragraphs), but I'm liking the Minion Pro over Text Pro as a typeface (I think it looks cleaner, more open/less cramped, and more elegant).
This would definitely be one of "The Big Three" in my Greek New Testament collection, i.e. the Textus Receptus, Byzantine Text, and the Tyndale House Greek New Testament. The UBS-5 might've made it "The Big Four" if the committee hadn't departed from the Greek manuscripts entirely in 2nd Peter 3:10, a big step in the wrong direction for that edition.
Do you know if the hardback version has the same font style and formatting as the calfskin version? I guess either way I'm about to find out because I just ordered one lol
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews thanks for the heads up. You had mentioned before that this was coming out just didnt know when. I need to get a copy!!! Thank you, Stephen!!!!
I see they sell this at evangelical bible for $45 + shipping. Orders over $75 ship free. Tried to post link, but whenever I try to add link my post gets deleted.
Bro Stephen I just finished chpt 9 pronouns in begging Greek and man I really struggled with that chapter is that normal or am I falling short somewhere It seems there are so many rules and exceptions to sentence structure I’m getting lost
Must say: I'm disappointed in this edition. Font is better, but the verse numbers blend in too much, margins are the same, there are no blank pages in the back as opposed to the 18 or so of the previous editions, and i think it is less usable overall than the previous edition unless used for devotional reading. I think mine may just end up getting thrown into my backpack for work.
I've been watching a guy on TikTok. He says the word homosexuel is nowhere in the original texts. He said the word wasn't thought up till the 1800s. So is homosexual life style a sin?
@@Kens1966 The word, “homosexual”, is a hybrid word, made up of a Greek component, “homo =same”, and a Latin component, “sexual- = pertaining to sexual activity”. The word was indeed coined, apparently, in Germany, in 1868; so one would not expect it to appear in a Greek work of the first century of our era! But, the concept, with descriptive words, is certainly in Classical and Koiné Greek, not least at 1 corinthians 06:09-10, where two words are used : “malakoi = soft (men) = passive or submissive partner in homosexual activity”; and “arsenokoitai = male.bedder.s = active or dominant partner in homosexual activity”. Note that : 1. there is a list of sinful activities; 2. it is the activities, and not the proclivities, that are condemned; 3. the practice of homosexuality is not singled out as being worse than the other sins; 4. there is complete cleansing available for all the sins listed, so that the Kingdom of heaven may be entered.
I said “font size” when I meant “font style”
God is Good. This is my dream Greek NT. Thank you God for using TBS to do this amazing work. Just purchased one.
It does look fantastic. Got to love TBS!
Now, what we need to accompany this new edition is the serious student’s modern editors’ comparative variant readings compendium. Let it be a proper desk/study size- A4. Enter for every chosen verse the variant of each of the chosen modern editions. I suppose that the initial modern editions would be ByzT/MT-RP2018 and CT-NA28. Alongside NA28, note the A-D evaluation system of UBS5. Bring in at once or later Byz/MT-FH1987 and Byz/MT-Pickering 2015 and CT-SBL and CT-TH2017. We perhaps should include Byz/Patriarchal 1904 (as currently lightly amended?). Then, a textual discussion should ensue. The model of presentation might be a tweaked version of what is being done in the ongoing BHQ series. We really do need to present, in a unified way and in the same place and in an uncramped format, to the serious student, a conspectus of the readings of the leading current editions; and we ought to include a decent discussion of important variants. The initial variants chosen might be the UBS ones with the A-D evaluations, as these are generally reckoned to be noteworthy, and perhaps some others considered to be most important. Now, personnel and costs! Why not engage competent students? How many student hours would be required, and what would be a fair hourly rate for a student? And what would be other costs? I do not envisage a glossy finished product, but a competent one, to be put on line and to be consulted or recorded or printed out by the user.
This looks like a real improvement! It'll be good to see your full review at some stage.
I hope someone could, some day, show how this edition differs- textually- from the Scrivener editions and the past TBS editions.
This is beautiful!
No idea how this came up on my fyp, not even really sure what it is but I'm glad you like it
😂 yeah TH-cam is like that sometimes! Thanks for feeding the algorithm anyways. Blessings!
Amazing!
The font is good. The compact size is great. The quality of binding leaves much to be desired, for what they are charging, with shipping being extra. The Tyndale leather Greek NT iIs much nicer. Nonetheless, now I have it, I will enjoy using it.
Got mine today. It is very nice, but it is on the small side for me. The font is clear, but seems some what small compared to the older blue edition. I like it very much though. Like the gold lined pages and the leather cover. Would indeed recommend it for purchase. TBS did a great job here. I would love to see it larger and made into a reader's edition.
Looks like it is made well and readable.
Boo! Too short! 😆
Looks great. The hardcover version is selling for only $10! I'll have to decide which to buy. Thanks for letting me know it was out. I checked a couple of weeks ago and it still wasn't in their store.
Don’t worry. I plan to do a more thorough review. Just wanted to get this out quickly.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews YES!
Leather Greek New Testaments are hard to find. Go for leather.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I got my hardcover today! Love the font. The hardcover will stay open on Matt 1 (a little off the table, but still open). Sewn binding. Dane put out his review today and the margins on the HC appear to be the same size on the leather. No ribbon, but I can add my own. Incredible value for $10+shipping!
What would be most important to me is how the bible lays open when you read it. Can it stay open on Matt 1? Looking forward to your review. If you want pictures of the HC for comparison, just let me know.
This is really beautiful and a great improvement over the last version as far as typeface and readability IMO. I almost immediately impulse bought the calfskin version after seeing
it, but then restrained myself and asked - Do I really need another GNT? No, not really... Do I want another GNT?... why, yes, of course! (don't have any of the TBS Scrivener
editions, but only a 1906 edition of Scrivener's Stephanus text I convinced myself to buy. It would be nice to have I told myself, a piece of history!). I always think I could spend that $ on other books I want instead of 'one more' GNT. I just know I'll want a copy of whatever next edition/version comes out as well. So, I may just go for the hardback (but leather
is so tempting). I imagine asking if I should get a copy (whatever version) and everyone answering in unison - YES! ;) Decisions, Decisions...
Why not a copy of John William Burgon's Revision Revised to know about the problems with the modern versions.
Δόξα τω Θεώ
Ἀμήν τῷ ἐκείνῳ, τοῦ ἀδελφοῦ μου.
Probably going to buy my own, but what does it have in the way of prefatory material-or appendices?
No appendices. 2 or 3 pages of preface. Nothing too surprising there. You should get one though. They are well done.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Thank you! Same preface as existing edition, perhaps? (An edition I do have.)
Pretty sure it is the same. But I gave my old one away. So I can’t compare it. It does have a note about why they chose Scrivener’s edition without the textual variants. I can’t remember if that was in the previous preface or not.
Exaxt same font as Tyndale House GNT. Easy on the eyes and I agree better than the old TBS font. Wish it had wide margins. And double or triple ribbons.
The Tyndale House is Adobe Text Pro, this appears to be Adobe Minion Pro (inspecting as well as I can with enlarged screencaps and not actual text in hand - definitely not Text
Pro, nor even earlier Minion versions like Minion 3... which has clearly distinct Lambdas, Zetas, etc.).
The Pi, Lambda, Zeta, and final Sigma are all quite distinct with Text Pro (I think the final Sigma and Pi are the most unique).
I admit to spending way too many hours looking over numerous fonts for Polytonic Greek and trying to notice their nuances, judging their overall readability, look on the page, etc. I love the layout of the Tyndale House (especially the ekthesis / left indentation of paragraphs), but I'm liking the Minion Pro over Text Pro as a typeface (I think it looks cleaner,
more open/less cramped, and more elegant).
Is there a discount code? ;)
This would definitely be one of "The Big Three" in my Greek New Testament collection, i.e. the Textus Receptus, Byzantine Text, and the Tyndale House Greek New Testament. The UBS-5 might've made it "The Big Four" if the committee hadn't departed from the Greek manuscripts entirely in 2nd Peter 3:10, a big step in the wrong direction for that edition.
Do you know if the hardback version has the same font style and formatting as the calfskin version? I guess either way I'm about to find out because I just ordered one lol
Sure does
Looks like it does, text appears the same, the great think about the hardback is the binding is very good.
Hearing that the binding is good makes me even more excited I got it for under $15 including shipping!
Oh wow! Is that the "KadmosU" font? looks the same as the RP and F35 (we used KadmosU for f35)!
Unfortunately I’m not sure.
Where can they be purchased?
www.tbsbibles.org/
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I'm not seeing this on the Canadian site---only USA?
@@fr.thomas it seems so. But I bet you can access it going through the US website.
When was this released??
Just a few days ago.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews thanks for the heads up. You had mentioned before that this was coming out just didnt know when. I need to get a copy!!! Thank you, Stephen!!!!
@@TheJesusNerd40 Site says In stock (4066 left) of hardback
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Its been done for over 6 months, but was stuck in Belarus after the war broke out.
I see they sell this at evangelical bible for $45 + shipping. Orders over $75 ship free.
Tried to post link, but whenever I try to add link my post gets deleted.
Nice!!
Bro Stephen I just finished chpt 9 pronouns in begging Greek and man I really struggled with that chapter is that normal or am I falling short somewhere It seems there are so many rules and exceptions to sentence structure I’m getting lost
Totally normal. Look back a couple chapters. Does chapter 6 and 7 make sense? If they do, you are right on track
Thanks man please keep praying for me keep sending the videos their very good 😊
Must say: I'm disappointed in this edition. Font is better, but the verse numbers blend in too much, margins are the same, there are no blank pages in the back as opposed to the 18 or so of the previous editions, and i think it is less usable overall than the previous edition unless used for devotional reading. I think mine may just end up getting thrown into my backpack for work.
Really? My overall impression was just the opposite. I thought the verse numbering was far better than the old edition.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews They blend into the text too much: same as almost all paragraphed Bibles.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews the old edition has horrendous numbering. I hope this new edition corrected that.
I've been watching a guy on TikTok. He says the word homosexuel is nowhere in the original texts. He said the word wasn't thought up till the 1800s. So is homosexual life style a sin?
Yes
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews thanks
@@Kens1966 The word, “homosexual”, is a hybrid word, made up of a Greek component, “homo =same”, and a Latin component, “sexual- = pertaining to sexual activity”. The word was indeed coined, apparently, in Germany, in 1868; so one would not expect it to appear in a Greek work of the first century of our era! But, the concept, with descriptive words, is certainly in Classical and Koiné Greek, not least at 1 corinthians 06:09-10, where two words are used : “malakoi = soft (men) = passive or submissive partner in homosexual activity”; and “arsenokoitai = male.bedder.s = active or dominant partner in homosexual activity”. Note that : 1. there is a list of sinful activities; 2. it is the activities, and not the proclivities, that are condemned; 3. the practice of homosexuality is not singled out as being worse than the other sins; 4. there is complete cleansing available for all the sins listed, so that the Kingdom of heaven may be entered.