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After a three year ministry of demonstrating who he is, then being crucified & mocked for claiming to be the Son of God, Jesus directed them to Psalm 22 saying, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"

Some other videos suggest that the writers of the Masoretic text not only noticed "emendations' to their present-day scriptures but also had an agenda to write Jesus out of them.

jesus is not the messiah jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies the bible says the messiah will gather the exiles in deuteronomy 30:3 isaiah 11:11-12 jeremiah 30:3, 32:37 ezekiel 11:17, 36:24 the bible says the messiah will rebuild the temple in isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20 ezekiel 37:26-27 malachi 3:4 zechariah 14:20-21 the bible says when the messiah comes there will be world peace and a complete end to war in micah 4:1-4 hoseah 2:20 isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18 the bible says the messiah will bring universal knowledge of god in zechariah: 3:9 8:23, 14:9, 16 isaiah 45:23, 66:23; jeremiah 31:33 ezekie​l 38:23; psalm 86:9 zephaniah 3:9. jesus didn't do any of these things, so jesus can't be the messiah.

Both Rabbinic Judaism and the Tannaim had motive to 'guard the truth', which cannot be said for DSS and LXX, when it comes to Jesus. Period.

Truly love this kind of content!!! I already subscribed to your channel. I remember having heard an episode from the guys of One For Israel who tackled on this very issue from a literary perspective related to the way the psalm was poetically written and came to the same conclusion. Greetings from Argentina!

Excellent work. Thank you and God bless

I like the explanation as to why some new testament quotations are slightly different from corresponding old testament quotes.

Ancient Hebrew is a far less flexible and precise language than the greek of the LXX. Where they differ, it is because the greek is more specific where ancient hebrew requires using context to guess how a particular word was meant.

Glad to see you talk about Michael Heiser, specially in light of how in the past few weeks he's been under attack by a certain sector of academics and podcasters.

Thank you so much! I am sorry that I am not well enough versed in this area to offer a critique such as you asked for in the final moments of this video, but I am aware enought to sppreciate that you must have worked very hard, not only on this video, but for your entire life. God bless you.

Good. Now talk about canon. :)

Great explanation. So much of the NT quotations from the OT line up with the LXX. Even genealogies more so with the LXX. That might make young earth folks mad, but if you believe in inerrancy you can’t throw out the LXX unless you throw out the NT with it.

Excellent teaching.

The text is preserved in the Textus Receptus of Beza and that of the underlying TR in the Authorised Version... The lack of manuscript evidence today 2000+ years later is no proof that they did not exist. Do not disregard the massive attack that has been waged upon God's Holy word! For centuries Holy men of God were burnt at the stake along with their manuscripts that is fact. The mythological LXX varies dramatically between versions and has so many ridiculous readings including Methuselah living through Noah's flood. The LLX is based mostly on the codex B which is an Alexandrian type text and also copies and paste's new testament readings into the old testament as documented by John Owen.

Yes...worth the effort! Subscribed! Thank you for helping us to sift through the copious amounts of information in order to find truth.

I've always disagreed with "sons of God" being angels. Satan "walks about on the earth," so there's no reason he can't come before the Lord among human followers of God. Also it should be noted that Job isn't a historical document, but prose. We should also remember that the dead sea scrolls, being copies themselves, could also have scribal errors the same as any other manuscript.

What about Deuteronomy 10:22 in the Septuagint? I believe it says 70 and not 75 souls.

Goliath would hardly be imposing to entire armies at only 6'+"

I love this type of text comparison work you've provided. I would say regarding the height difference of goliath, Derek P. Gilbert of Skywatchtv had pointed out the same thing around a year ago about Goliath's height being 6ft. 6 in. but than it was later revealed that the an Egyptian cubit was of a different measurement than a Hebrew cubit rendering 6 Hebrew cubits and a span being the same as an Egyptian 4 cubits and a span = 9ft +

I really appreciate the great scholarship in the video, the hard work of putting together slides, and your overall calm demeanor. I subscribed!

sons of God are those in a covenant relationship with God.

I love this content.

excellent video, thank you for your work sir

What if Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is wrong in the Septuagint, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Masoretic text (kind of)? I do my own amateur textual criticism of the Hebrew Bible, and I self-publish books with my ideas. I have a chapter on that. I think it says "When the Most High caused nations to inherit, when He separated the sons of mankind, He will set up borders of peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel because the Lord DIVIDED His people, Jacob, the portion of His inheritance." People think the nations are the "peoples' in this quote, but I think that it refers to Jacob's sons as "tribes" or "peoples." He divided Israel into 12 tribes that inherited land. I translate a word in the quote as a verb instead of as a noun, so it says "divided." You can see the tribes called peoples or a people in Genesis 28:3, 48:4, 48:19, and 49:16. I don't know if you will care about this idea, but I have showed this idea to many people over the years, and they all reject it. I think they only consider what scholars say.

The Masoretic text isn’t truly a Hebrew text, it’s a Jewish Aramaic text. The Jews abandoned the original Hebrew script in favour of their own modified form of Aramaic, which people today call Hebrew. So it isn’t even a copy, but in its own a way, a translation of sorts.

Oxford NETS English edition, not to be confused with the Uni of Pennsylvania edition, is an online free edition.

The 2nd edition of lexham has pierced my hands and feet

I studied both Hebrew and Greek in Seminary, honestly I haven’t been using it for years now but it’s great to learn. Honestly to learn it well takes many years and many people don’t have the time to commit to it.

The issue with Deut 32:8 is the time element. The context is dealing with a time before Abraham was even born. There were no Sons of Israel at that time. Sons of God must be the correct rendering. The ESV actually uses the LXX here because of other manuscript evidence. We know that the Hebrew text was "tweaked" in a few places.

Letter for letter was never an issue for Greeks like it was for the east. You can almost see the j & y ordeal in early Homer's account of Troy ( adoption of alphabetical exodus and indo European language family) as they're all are plagerizing correlating, prescribing this account they all would experience but is ambeleshing from an older event imo its the fall of ur & summruans but they're all doing this from the hittites ,humerian,to sargon ,and.of course his off spring syncrab will master propagands with war and cause us all lasting devides over this with hezakiah in a similar seige that devides 1st temple Judaism solamanic from 2md temple on. Sadly, context was and still is for oreintation and direction a dialectical vision delimia. The infamous example unicorn 🦄 still gets excersized by phylosphy even though they know the 2 horn 1 horn rhinosaurus and how it history of a feedback loop of mistakes . It's why Islam is doubleehammy both out of context and lost in translation 😢

Gen 6:3: "Then the LORD said, “My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred twenty years.”" If The Holy Spirit made men live long lives, they may be "the sons of God" referred to? Samson was extra strong as long as The Holy Spirit remained in him. I think Genesis 6:3 really answers the questions raised in Genesis 6 itself if looking at all possible translations of the text. What do you think? As to LXX, I am more and more convinced that it is more trustworthy than the MT text, but all should be considered. The only issue is which LXX?

Six foot six is giant in a place where the average height is five two to five five. :)

For people that prefer the Majority text over the Westcott and Hort editions of the New Testament, I found something that might give you pause to consider before you completely favor the Greek Old Testament over the Hebrew Old Testament. Looking up ALMIGHTY in Strongs Concordance 7706 [ שַׁדַּי ] you will find 47 listings for the Old Testament Hebrew Bible. But when you look up those references in the Septuagint, or Greek Old Testament as some prefer to name it, you will only find the name, ALMIGHTY Gk Strongs listing 3841 [ παντοκράτωρ ] 16 times. Of those 16 times, 15 of them occur in the book of Job, which some say is the oldest Old Testament book in the Bible. The other occurrence is in Ezekiel but the spelling doesn't follow the entry listed above for the same word in the New Testament. This is how it is spelled in Ezekiel 10: 5 [ σαδδαϊ ] for the Greek translation of the Hebrew word [ שַׁדַּי ]. I'm mentioning that since some people prefer the Majority text under the premise that Westcott and Hort changed the Greek text to conform more with Catholic theology, or some would say, New Age theology. While using the LXX you really should be aware that there are some additions to the text that are more in a Catholic form of theology, such as the doctrine regarding indulgences, which you will find added in Proverbs 15: 27 A receiver of bribes destroys himself; but he that hates the receiving of bribes is safe. [ By alms and by faithful dealings sins are purged away; ] but by the fear of the Lord every one departs from evil. And one needs to be aware that Bible Hub does not carry the full addition to text which the LXX has, as well as other cases where the interlinear for the Hebrew has an English rendering from the Greek text which actually does not follow the Hebrew. Just little things to watch out for. And finally, a person might want to do a study on how the words "My God, my God" from the 22nd Psalm are translated in the Greek OT, the Hebrew OT, and the rendering in the NT. I just wonder why the Greek Old Testament didn't translate the Hebrew the way the New Testament has it? As Stephen quoted Matthew 5: 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. And the warning 4 times throughout the Bible tells us, do not add to the scriptures nor take away from the scriptures, should have been heeded by those who handled God's Holy Words. Even each letter is important and is there for a reason. I also wonder when revisers and translators wanted to make the Bible less "sexist" by changing the wording if it doesn't have an effect on the way people understand the message God was trying to give to mankind. Today we find women preachers accepted in Church and it has become normalized. That's not what the Bible teaches.

What one must think about is, was portions of the Word of God not included in the Bible for centuries. Is what many have known for centuries as the Word of God incomplete.

Perhaps the interpretation of the “cubit” is different between the two texts. The archaeological evidence points to a massive giant. The cities of the Canaanites were taller than typical Egyptian cities of the time. Also, just the armour of Goliath and the spearhead are approximately 4 times bigger and heavier respectively than normal armour and spearheads. Men weren’t “short” back then. Skeletons from multiple different cultures of the past show men who are of the same height as they are now with some exceptions. But the taller ones weren’t labelled “giants” unnecessarily.

Thanks this lines up with a recent discussion I was having with my brother, and generally with a much longer discussion topic over years.

In the end, the evidence from the Second Temple period is that there were a number of sources of the Jewish scriptures, each with some variations from the others.

Excellent, thank you. I think the Septuagint points us towards the original Hebrew text from which it was translated out of and is thereby naturally closer to the Dead Sea Scrolls. The New Testament writers, therefore, had the option to quote the Septuagint or the earlier Hebrew text, as and where it was available to them. I think Matthew 21:16 is a good example of this. The English translations follow the Septuagint reading of Psalm 8:2 with the word 'praise' rather than the Masoretic which goes with 'strength'. Obviously the context of Jesus' conversation with the chief priests and the teachers of the law demands that the quotation from the Psalm reads 'praise', otherwise Jesus' response would make no sense if His quotation ended with 'strength'. However, I find it difficult to believe that Jesus would be engaging in discussions with the the chief priests and the teachers of the law, in which they referenced the Greek Septuagint rather than the Hebrew. I think they must have been discussing an ancient Hebrew text, lost to us, and akin to the text translated into the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Hope that makes sense.

King Saul was head and shoulders taller than the whole of the Israelites! 12” At least ? What is the size and weight of Goliaths weapons? Og’s bed? (13’)? How many fingers and toes did he have? Many people are over 7’ basketball players.

Great content. We need a army of scholars pouring over the Septuagint, Masoretic, Syriac, Dead Sea Scrolls, Vulgate, and the Samaritan Pentateuch, and developing a unified text like we have for the NT. By the way, the Majority Text is starting to take over from the Critical Text as THE Greek Text for the NT.

It still doesn't prove the bible isn't just a bunch of fairytales. You seem to believe just because it's an old book it must be true. If in fact the bible was inspired by god and there has been 2000+ years for it to slowly convert the world, what do we see? We see the people remaining in the religion they were born with. 99.999% of all people that every lived, lived and died with the religion they were born with. How hard is that to convince yourself your religion is the only true religion when you only search for things that "claim" to support it and ignore the myriad of evidence against it. They found the book of Enoch in the dead sea scrolls but you completely ignore it. You hide under the covers when you see 666 but are fine with the 616, the number used in older bibles. People fall for faith healers by the 1000's. Why don't these faith healers go to a cancer wade and clear the place? Because they are all frauds and liar's. Fairytale Peddlers.

It's always seemed messed up to me that the entire old testament is built off a single manuscript. The new testament has a robust critical apparatus and is much better for it

My Hebrew professor, Dr. Van Pelt, when addressing a similar issue, pointed out that the LXX is a “mixed bag” translation (his words). Some of the translators took a wooden, word-for-word approach of Hebrew-to-Greek. Others, paraphrastic, with others somewhere in between. IOW, as you noted at the end of your video, start with the Hebrew, consult and consider the LXX, particularly if the NT authors seem to be deviating from the Masoretic Text. Very well done. Thank you, sir.

As we can read in Luke 2:22-24, after the days of her purification following the birth of Jesus, Mary sacrificed two doves in the temple. This has its basis in the Mosaic Law as commanded in Leviticus 12:6-8. One dove was a burnt -offering and the second dove was a sin -offering. So yes, Mary sacrificed a dove for her sin, as did every other Jewish woman.

The Septuagint study is literally the only reason i watched. I like unbiased information. Thank you

4.5 cubits is about 6 feet and 9 inches. that is believable now. Goliath is a basketball player tall man. And the Israelites were probably 5 feet 4 inches on the average. That's why David could wield Goliath's sword when he got older and taller.

Just because something is older doesn't mean it is better, this is the mistake CT theorists make over and over again.

The Septuagint was back translated from the NT as it was reworked many time throughout its life.

Dead scrolls were buried because they were corrupt. That was the common practice.

Amen, plus I have tried to say that Catholics would say they don't worship Mary but sorry, it sounds like you do, even as something as simple as the Rosary. Also calling Mary THE MOTHER OF GOD is so so offensive to me and many others, we grow tired of avoiding the issue!! You bring up a good point, that even if they say they don't worship Mary, I saw In the Philippines A many step hill to a statue of Mary and many Locals were bowing down over and over again to this statue/idol of Mary. So even if the statue was not intended as an idol, I saw different, and they were trembling as they bowed down, it scared me a bit!!