The anger and apathy behind the Stoke byelection | Anywhere but Westminster

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  • As the media get in a lather about the byelection contest between Labour and Ukip, John Harris visits Stoke-on-Trent, the supposed ‘Brexit capital of Britain’.
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    He investigates why so many people there simply don’t vote, and whether the new breed of energetic Labour activists who have arrived in town en masse can somehow change their minds.
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  • @olliewarren1993
    @olliewarren1993 7 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    These are the best political videos around! No grand narratives, no flashy sound bites, just real people expressing their views

    • @guest_informant
      @guest_informant 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I Was just about to post the same.

    • @BrightBlackBanana
      @BrightBlackBanana 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      OIlie Warren Absolutely agree.

    • @Ulrna
      @Ulrna 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the Guardian is still advocating for the "cheap foreign labour" narrative. Bu at least there will be Brexit.

    • @DFandV
      @DFandV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More of these... The people!

  • @joebirnie4162
    @joebirnie4162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The London labour party has no clue what's happening in the north of England and have shown themselves up here

  • @RN-ot9tw
    @RN-ot9tw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    huge fan of John and these videos. Great journalism

  • @lendmeyourfears4428
    @lendmeyourfears4428 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I love these pieces because they offer a real insight into real people. No studios, no makeup, just conversations that I think offer the best angle on the current state of play. Hats off.

    • @bilbobaggins8171
      @bilbobaggins8171 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you honestly think the Guardian don't have an agenda in mind when editing these videos???
      Come on. They are trying to paint UKIP out to be a protest party.
      The fact is that UKIP will take over from Labour in the North of England and Wales at the next GE.

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Of course they do but for The Guardian it's pretty nuetral, far better than what you'll see on the bbc.

    • @lendmeyourfears4428
      @lendmeyourfears4428 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      bilbo baggins my point is really that regardless of the agenda that the guardian clearly has they are honey about it and frame their videos this way.

    • @hipmotion
      @hipmotion 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      UKIP isnt a protest party? their ultimate purpose was Brexit, which they have achieved. I personally can't wait to see them fade into irrelevance. They're an absolute joke of a party.

    • @hipmotion
      @hipmotion 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      inb4 u pigeon hole me - i have no time for labour either

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's really sad when city looks like set for post-apo movie :/

  • @jimbeam5891
    @jimbeam5891 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    There is a noticeable difference between older residents and younger ones in places like Stoke. The older residents have a sense of dignity and self-worth that is sorely lacking in the younger ones, and it's not just a result of the wisdom that age brings.

    • @milels6917
      @milels6917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was a stoke girl people were hard working but then it was a industrial city lots of jobs in the mines pottery factories what have the young got now so sad to see this it is a dreadful place older people have dignity Stoke on Trent was called the Holy city on the water Wish we could make it great again so so sad 😥

    • @chilldude30
      @chilldude30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably because they grew up with a life to be proud of, in a town they were proud of. Now that's been taken away by things outside of their control.

  • @dantaylor7344
    @dantaylor7344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A journalist getting on a BUS! Do you see the Mirror, Times, Telegraph, Express, Sun reporters doing that? Not fucking likely! Fair play Mr Harris

    • @Philiptanzer
      @Philiptanzer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He went on the bus the same way someone gets in a jeep for a safari..

  • @fattypark
    @fattypark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm very late to videos in this series, though the fundamentals haven't changed. The scenes depicted in this one in particular are so sad. It's terrible that people feel deprived of influence. Many people might laugh, look down their noses or just feel glad they don't live in some of the areas shown, but ultimately these places are in our country (assuming you're British), and politicians have a collective responsibility to improve the lot of the populace, particularly in areas like this. Some of the deprivation in the UK is shocking for an advanced western economy.

  • @MrBeny
    @MrBeny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "This community needs change" - Labour, who have been in power for 60+ years. Lol.

  • @mickeyhynes
    @mickeyhynes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More of these videos please.

  • @692mhw
    @692mhw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great honesty for a change. Gareth Snell looks like a bloated middle class potato. Stoke is crumbling and Labours only idea is more identity politics and zero real solutions.

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely LOVE that description of Gareth Snell 😂

    • @baders087
      @baders087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s gone now

    • @32446
      @32446 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. He looks useless

  • @anghinetti
    @anghinetti 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Those who don't vote shouldn't complain about anything.

    • @wasthatyou9387
      @wasthatyou9387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's called 'Apathy''. It's what happens when you have voted for years, but whosoever you vote for, has only *their* agendas, and quickly forget who voted them in, in the first place. Things never change in places like Stoke on Trent.

  • @Wickerrman
    @Wickerrman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic video, really shows life outside London in the forgotten areas of politics.

  • @Masterlydapper
    @Masterlydapper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    did she really try to say that trident costs us £600bn?

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      CrispyChips wrong figure, point remains

    • @Masterlydapper
      @Masterlydapper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      serjthereturn with public spending of defence at £45bn, the point doesn't stand

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes it does. If we didn't spend so much money on wars, arms and nuclear weapons, we could invest it in more positive things

    • @Masterlydapper
      @Masterlydapper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      serjthereturn Defence is vital to the British Isles, and any way with Defence ranked 7th in public spending isn't there anywhere else the money could come from? and what is more positive?

    • @thijsjong
      @thijsjong 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That sounds like a figure she picked up somewhere. Milion instead of bilon. guess it is the cost to keep trident submarines operational for one year. Haven't looked it up. Could also be the price of building one sub. Point is its expensive.

  • @GarethWareth
    @GarethWareth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Gareth Snell. You need to focus on the worst parts of Stoke.

  • @dianabriggs1512
    @dianabriggs1512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't vote. I'm from Stoke & I couldn't be bothered. I've voted since I was 18, now 37 years. Think it's a waste of time. It hasn't bettered my life or now my son's. We seem to be living the same hardships in childhood.

  • @stokiedave7771
    @stokiedave7771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Someone shot a zombie film in Hanley stoke and they didn’t even need to change the area. It was the perfect look for a post apocalypse zombie film.

    • @adrianheeks
      @adrianheeks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The film was "The Girl with All the Gifts" 2015. Shot in the old bus station before it was demolished.

  • @mmengraveprint4747
    @mmengraveprint4747 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you want to have a protest vote don't vote UKIP. Vote for The Incredible Flying Brick. That really would send shockwaves around the world of politics.

  • @Shadowrunftwpete
    @Shadowrunftwpete 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    67 years under Labour control and this is the result. People of Stoke deserve better.

    • @TheHexicle
      @TheHexicle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KPOPFANBOYUK Well, don't be too harsh.

  • @thisstillchangesnothing
    @thisstillchangesnothing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG What a bloody nightmare this country has become ((

  • @ggggg-h9s
    @ggggg-h9s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Labour Tory Labour Tory Labour fucking Tory.... Sick of it....

  • @ggggg-h9s
    @ggggg-h9s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly Labour lost the plot..

  • @waltjacob3776
    @waltjacob3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who are you gonna vote for, the EU 😲
    It’s grim up north.

  • @keitumetsem1344
    @keitumetsem1344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great work from the journo

  • @Ukipmiddleleft
    @Ukipmiddleleft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Labour have never done anything for Stoke on Trent and the only reason they stay in power is because many people know that the only other alternative is Conservatives who are literally destroying people's lives with ill conceited benefit policies that undermine working people here. Many people are working on the Black Market and which is why crime figures are rocketing at a time when Tories have drastically reduced Police numbers. UKIP had an excellent opportunity to reassure disfranchised voters and failed to capitalise. Steven Woolfe should have been parachuted into this contest he would have put his points across with relation to his own background and experiences. He left UKIP as UKIP had simply lost their way

  • @jtraining295
    @jtraining295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    man stoke looks bleek

    • @rogermoore-gd9do
      @rogermoore-gd9do หลายเดือนก่อน

      You did not see 99% of the city centre, whole video was to make you think that way.

  • @susieenglish302
    @susieenglish302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lived in Stoke for 4 years in the late 90's and the Asian community was so ambitious, they were all going to be professionals. The white community had started to give up - decades of poor education, housing and lack of ambition were generations old and it looks like its not got any better

  • @goldfingerhardcore
    @goldfingerhardcore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interest analysis and definitely a case study for disconnection of current democracy and party system from common people as well as severe lack of education. People are voting on xenophobes, economical neoliberal scums thinking they will be listened. Absolutely sad, but there is also a lot to blame on the Workers Party.

  • @greygamervideo
    @greygamervideo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There will be more and more constituencies where fewer than 50% bother to vote.

  • @daveysgb
    @daveysgb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the cameraman had turned 360 at most of the locations they filmed in, you would have seen some of the great regeneration work that has been going on around the city for the last 10-15 years. All of the areas they filmed in are also due for regeneration, which is why they are becoming run down. Shame you couldn't give a more holistic view of the city.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm just being a pedant here, but turning 360° would end up facing the same way. 180° is behind

  • @Nick-wl8jx
    @Nick-wl8jx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "this community deserves change", so vote for the same party that has served the constituency since it was created? Some 'change'...

  • @DCI-Frank-Burnside
    @DCI-Frank-Burnside 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I represent The People's Anagramic Party for Changing 'Stoke' to 'Eskot'. As you might have guessed we are a single issue party. Change now!

  • @ypure3859
    @ypure3859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UK IS SO BLOODY SAD!!!!

  • @SM-pr1qt
    @SM-pr1qt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ‘Big part of the heritage is still there’ - zooms in on chav!!! 🤣🤣

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t want Corbyn that would have helped instead they are happy to have Starmer 🤣🤣

  • @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO
    @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These people shouldn't be allowed to vote

  • @philipe1502
    @philipe1502 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:22 finally some decent thinking in these videos

  • @edwardwilliamson1
    @edwardwilliamson1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These Labour activists are wasting their time. I doubt these people are registered.

  • @Game7Mode
    @Game7Mode 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Living far away in BC, this picture of English provincial life is saddening.

    • @rockguitar2012
      @rockguitar2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Cooper I've lived in Stoke all my life and one thing that really frustrates me about reports like this is that they focus on some of the most run-down parts of the city. There are so many great parts of Stoke, full of culture and life and community, but the media always seem to show the odd shitty little alleyways and closed shops instead. This causes a bigger problem - it makes it harder to get people to invest in Stoke, slows regeneration etc. So I think this negative portrayal is exaggerated and really harmful. Stoke isn't this bad I promise!

    • @Game7Mode
      @Game7Mode 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      rockguitar2012 I agree. It would be better to consciously visit various neighborhoods of varying economic status to get a more complete picture of the political mood of a city.

  • @DHANANJAYKUMAR-jw5bd
    @DHANANJAYKUMAR-jw5bd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KEEP HIM OUT - dis is wat democracy looks like

  • @bilbobaggins8171
    @bilbobaggins8171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The guy who just got out of prison and lives in a council flat has the most disgusting sense of entitlement I've ever seen:
    "They need to build better housing for us"
    "They need to entertain us with Youth Clubs"
    "They need to stop arresting us when we break the law"
    What a terribly weak minded young man, although he's right about one thing .... Labour are finished.

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what do you expect, the left has been winning votes by promising free shit for longer than he's been alive.

  • @radiojet1429
    @radiojet1429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video. Thanks.

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tories closed the youth centres .

  • @hismail9654
    @hismail9654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The guy in the end can't even string a sentence together, and wooow what's with the swearing in the end?

    • @Gkwill1
      @Gkwill1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lalalaland Lalalaland expressing his views you clown

    • @miyasusan2886
      @miyasusan2886 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lalalaland Lalalaland that’s just stoke

  • @oliversmith4130
    @oliversmith4130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guardian are the problem

    • @deadsam8433
      @deadsam8433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Guardian are the reason for unemployment and electoral political apathy in Stoke...?

  • @owack6
    @owack6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Labour in 2017? lol

    • @Dylan-hy2zj
      @Dylan-hy2zj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1% behind in polls

  • @beadyanglo8505
    @beadyanglo8505 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Labour are out of touch, which is why people in their constituencies believe voting is pointless. Labour are too busy spending time and money on changes that won't help, or harm the working class. Most people couldn't care less about social justice, fairer courts, gender equality, the supposed pay gap, or any of the other rubbish that Labour politicians feverishly pursue.

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not out of touch, they just think that the working classes should not exist. they would prefer we went away or we uneducated factory workers working hard and then going back to the slums.

  • @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8
    @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was excellent. The real story is one of disenfrancisment of large parts of the population due to mass unemployment and poverty.

  • @spooked7952
    @spooked7952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at those green scruffs at 0:17.
    Who'd vote for that?

    • @PenisMcWhirtar
      @PenisMcWhirtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dunno mate, but 0:13 - I'd have turned to face her for a _real_ kiss!
      👁 👁
      👄 wot a lovely lady!!!

  • @tech9auto223
    @tech9auto223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't vote and most of the people I know don't I think people are to busy trying to survive and they know no matter what nothing is going to change so what's the point

  • @gvolpe1311
    @gvolpe1311 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video
    the labour activist did brilliant
    and the young man displayed some political knowledge
    I wish Gareth would dump the Mac
    and I hope honestly he support JC.

    • @quietusq489
      @quietusq489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good on them for going over there and trying to engage with the estate. But the £600billion figure she used for Trident had me cringing. That's 12 times our annual military budget xD.

    • @gvolpe1311
      @gvolpe1311 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quietus Q
      yeah she misspoke!
      250 billion as published in guardian.
      to keep us safe from the Chinese, who have won the contract to build our nuclear power station.
      no conflict of interest or safety!

  • @thornbird6768
    @thornbird6768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Labour keeps people on benefits by giving them a pay rise every time they get in ! Stoke on Trent case in point !

  • @paulwarren6105
    @paulwarren6105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You get 💩 💩 done by bustin a move in the correct direction... With shops and factories gone - There's still workers needed in the service industries - nurses - all building trades operatives and drivers in general..

  • @bobsthea
    @bobsthea 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    politics is good for politician and their supporter, not for hardworking citizens

  • @bainzy9627
    @bainzy9627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:35 Where did she gett the £600 billion price tag for trident?

    • @mattheww1391
      @mattheww1391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she said million but the subtitles said billion

  • @pfountaine6214
    @pfountaine6214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compulsory viewing for all labour party members and MPs. brilliant Journalism.

  • @alexander92179
    @alexander92179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Anywhere but Westminster series are the main thing holding the Guardian up.

  • @aviewtoill
    @aviewtoill 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    All political parties say what the people want to hear when election day is near. After, it's a different story.

  • @maniman3335
    @maniman3335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look how dead it is shameless

  • @oliversmith4130
    @oliversmith4130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:35 all big and tough but he has no self esteem, tragic

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed the scout hut 200 yards from there. The new development over your shoulder on the bridge. The small businesses on the road under that bridge, the park with the bowls club 30 meters from that estate. Stoke has some real problems. Big problems. its good ypu report them, but Stoke is great too.

  • @anthonyc3212
    @anthonyc3212 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol i know that lad singin under the bridge

  • @jcisking9622
    @jcisking9622 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are YOU going to do for your country?

  • @Philiptanzer
    @Philiptanzer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't he have taken 1 Labour, 1 Conservative and 1 UKIP activist to visit that guy?

    • @mrpotatohead6264
      @mrpotatohead6264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the guardian for you, cheerleaders of Labour

  • @delroywashington3185
    @delroywashington3185 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wot you want for stoke the guy der

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to get activists into the estates thougj.

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So he voted Tory 😂😂

  • @Adam-jx2il
    @Adam-jx2il 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb report. PLP take note

  • @buriedcoins
    @buriedcoins 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ..Ted Maul reports...

  • @glasgowblueboxingfan411
    @glasgowblueboxingfan411 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reporter clearly tried to get the guy at the end to vote labour. I prefer reporters to remain neutral.

  • @steveroberts9453
    @steveroberts9453 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nuttall was a nutjob, but don't expect anything at all from Snell. At least the Monster Raving Loony bloke would have
    abolished gravity and the compulsary serving of asparagus.

  • @Ulrna
    @Ulrna 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jehovah's witness or labour party acolytes, impossible to tell the difference.

  • @TheDevilday666
    @TheDevilday666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bias much?

    • @rt0935
      @rt0935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupidity much?

  • @ZygimantasA
    @ZygimantasA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Labour party have been in power for lengthy periods during the last 70 years in post-war UK. What have they done for the working class? Ask yourselves that.

    • @dianabrown1409
      @dianabrown1409 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NHS. rights. and well. homes .

  • @martinburke362
    @martinburke362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    POLITICS AND THE ECONOMY ARE BOTH TOTALLY LOADED TOWARDS LONDON AND THE SOUTH EAST THIS SUITS THE ESTABLISHMENT JUST FINE!! DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR NOTHING WILL ALTER ITS A MATTER OF ECONOMICS THE CLOSER THE MONEY IS TO THE CENTRE THE SAFER IT IS TO THOSE WHO OWN IT!! SORRY NORTH OF ENGLAND BUT YOUR NOT IT AND NEVER WILL BE TRAGIC BUT TRUE!!!

  • @jacobbooky251
    @jacobbooky251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go in Kanan

  • @thebritishpatriot1707
    @thebritishpatriot1707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    VOTE UKIP

  • @john111257
    @john111257 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y BOTHER..STOKE IS DEAD

  • @rhi6798
    @rhi6798 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    all this media and effort towards the Stoke byelection but nothing on the Copeland byelection

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should imagine things have improved since this video was made . ??? I’m sure UKIP and the Tory’s have improved things !!!!

  • @louisbanaszak3125
    @louisbanaszak3125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    vote brexit only please